Taycan 4S Road Trip Up The Whole East Coast! South Florida To NYC In The Electric Porsche

[@AndreAguiar]

“Let’s see what speeds we get we are at 38,50,70,120,150,200,250,269 and it just bricked itself. What?” I laughed out loud at that one.

[@marlinem26]

Tesla

[@CrumResearch]

I'm glad these issues were not edited out of the video. Really telling how bad this is. Not ready for prime time.

[@anonjohnnyG]

its actually embarrassing. how could a company actually produce and release this to market.

[@BillAnt]

​@@CrumResearch < In my opinion, EV's arn't ready for prime time till you can pull up to ANY gas station and able to charge it up. The "running out of juice" anxiety would give me a nervous breakdown. lol

[@CrumResearch]

@@BillAnt Good point. I'm quite interested in plug-in hybrid vehicles, especially waiting/looking for one with the auxiliary output functionality of Ford F-150 Pro Power Onboard outlets.

[@evroadtrips689]

The EA network is built and ran by VW group, how could it not work prefect with the Porsche. This is the number one thing these networks need to work on. The Tesla network rarely has these issue. Still absolutely love the car.

[@ecodweeb]

Tesla has 908 Supercharger sites in the US. In two years EA has thrown up 500 -- that's 55% of the footprint in considerably less time than it took Tesla to reach 500 stations in the US. The number of hardware makers to meet the federal timelines and avoid more fines was 4, and due to reliability issues largely on the east coast, that's been dwindled down to two manufacturers. Hardware replacements, site convenience upgrades, and batteries to avoid demand charges/even grid load are all things they're actively working on while still building out more stations. By the end of 2021, Electrify America will have 800+ locations in operation. This is simply unprecedented and shows why doing it quickly is going to sacrifice quality.

[@leenva]

@@ecodweeb let's not make excuses in comparing the pace of a startup company to that of a company that has the backing of vehicle manufacturing Goliath VW that has to meet requirements that resulted from VW's stupidity. Also, let's not challenge the number of stations each company has, Tesla's stations average about 10 stalls while EA averages between 2-6 usable stalls (at least that's what I've seen, correct me if needed). EA expansion is what everyone should root for, but the low number of stalls and shitty quality makes it seem as if this is only for the optics of going electric.

[@ouch1011]

To be clear, EA is paid for by VW. They don't build the stations or the chargers, that's all done by 3rd party. They also aren't designed to work only on 1 car, like the superchargers. It's not an excuse for the poor reliability, but if you are going to throw insults even if they are deserved, at least make sure your info is accurate.

[@kens97sto171]

@@leenva Doesn't matter how much financial power Volkswagen group has the reality is it's exponentially larger volume of building the system out in the shorter period of time. They could have thrown three times more money at it but you still have third-party contractors that have to build out those systems manufacturers to build the chargers etc they can't just wave a magic wand and make it all work even with an unlimited budget. Also something to keep in mind is this is a press car it could be an early manufacturing sample or possibly even a late prototype. That could account for the weird glitches on overcharging and also handshaking. I don't know this for a fact but it seems to me having this many problems at different chargers that he is successfully used previously would indicate to me that the problem might be with this particular car not so much than that work itself.

[@evroadtrips689]

@@kens97sto171 Look I'm not trying to knock the work that EA has done. I think the more charging stations there are and the sooner they come online the better. My whole goal is to move the car industry to greener energy sources. I think having a lot of charging stations will help with this goal. I have talked to a lot of people about EV's and the number one thing I've heard is problems with charging or lack of charging. This was definitely the case three years ago for pretty much every car manufacturer besides Tesla. Has it got better in those 3 year 100%, will it get better in the next 3 years absolutely. But when you are trying to travel long distances in an EV and you get somewhere that only has one charger in the town and it doesn't work, this is a big problem. The other thing that Tesla has done is build in redundancy. Most superchargers have two or four cabinets running an average of 8 chargers. This way if two of the chargers are broke or one cabinet is down you still have options. I would like to see EA and EVGO doing this also.

[@officialyasir]

This was way more entertaining than it should have been! EA chargers sure do add to the suspense! 😂

[@BehonestBestitchedup]

Look closely. No, closer...you can see tape holding his smile on 😂

[@BillAnt]

"To charge of not to charge, that is the question!" ... it's almost Shakespearean... he-he

[@Johno144]

I’ve lost count how many times Kyle had to change stalls

[@electricfelix]

Electrify America looking at Ionity like: fire it up!

[@ciroamore2129]

rubbish , tesla is more organised

[@BehonestBestitchedup]

It’s like a sit com😂

[@drab2000]

Im pretty sure Tesla superchargers also had some issues when they started.

[@Johno144]

@@drab2000 yeah. Their early issues were that there wasn’t enough of them. But they always started charging within seconds. Rarely would one not work. EA works 50% of the time. And take 5 min hand shake. And even if it does work the KWH is inconsistent. Early days on SC didn’t have these issues.

[@QuantumBraced]

Everything can go wrong and Kyle is still optimistic, positive and in a good mood, it's amazing. I feel like even in the apocalypse Kyle would be like -- oh well, this is a fun adventure at least... as he's fighting off the zombies.

[@tnk4me4]

That of course depends on f he has to drive the mustang mach-e or not.

[@richardscathouse]

Cochaine?

[@ORWELL_USA]

He's being paid very well by Porsche.

[@Superman-xr1oh]

@@ORWELL_USA Did he say that in the video?

[@Geckogold]

Watching all of these charging fails at the Electrify America stations only reaffirms how relatively stable and reliable the Tesla Supercharger network is. The Fast Lane channel did a video where they have a Model Y and Ford Mustang Mach-E at DC fast chargers, and while the Model Y's charging speeds weren't high likely due to sharing the charging station with another Tesla and possibly having a cold battery, the Mach-E was having trouble similarly to Kyle here and it took them 3 tries before he got it to charge. And even then, it was charging at a slower speed than the Model Y was. Though Kyle's attitude during these moments is certainly upbeat, I'd imagine many others in the same situation probably wouldn't be very happy, especially considering how much more the Taycan costs. And for others, it's probably convincing them that EV's, or at least non-Tesla ones, aren't ready for primetime.

[@Superman-xr1oh]

Won't matter anymore once Tesla opens their supercharger network to all EVs.

[@brberis]

EA is like Windows Vista trying to be compatible with several third parties components and Tesla SC as OSX and Macs.

[@cooldanny480]

This whole video makes me realize how convenient and cheap Tesla's Supercharger network is.

[@richardscathouse]

But then you have Tesla. No thanks

[@cooldanny480]

@@richardscathouse lmao enjoy all that and whatever else you get on the other side 🤣

[@pete8016]

yeah keeps making want to go with a tesla.. they just work no headaches with the charging

[@policemarinesniper]

I could only imagine the pure chaos when those chargers start getting packed out and you can't move to the next charger over and over again.... yet people defend the charging from none tesla chargers like they are reliable.

[@dougholmes6631]

So right EA charges are very expensive.

[@harryaxe5167]

I love the way your willing to bounce back and forth from one charger to another without getting pissed off. Very very unusual.

[@Ojames600]

This is why I LOVE my Tesla and the reliable Supercharging network. Hope EA is watching this video.

[@ayaanalam7384]

Thank you for taking the time to edit these amazing videos for us! I can watch your videos for hours and hours straight!

[@unenthusiast]

Edit? It’s about the same length as the drive!

[@ayaanalam7384]

@@unenthusiast yeah and he drives for hours lol

[@heathj7794]

I appreciate this guy going through the headaches of road tripping electric cars. Hopefully the manufacturers are paying attention to the charger connection issues.

[@fatalbert3633]

At the prices Porsche is charging for they cars you’ll think the charging bugs would be taken care of first

[@scottmanning315]

Playing the drinking game- drink when Kyle has to change chargers........

[@NJMike67]

5 minutes in..hammered :)

[@vec306]

Navy 30 minutes

[@BillAnt]

Or looking for the next charging station. he-he

[@lifeaccordingtobri]

Watching Kyle charge on EA all I hear is the Price Is Right horns when someone looses their game LOL

[@gwidyon79]

I'm glad I had watched Kyle's video where he figured out the issues with this before watching this one. It's nice to know EA's system is actually fantastic and the charging issues on the 350 units was a Heat Management issue with the Porsche.

[@thomasdurant7907]

It took me the whole video to realize this is leading up to the Cannonball run, that's why he is by himself and heading to NY.

[@PhilipBH100]

Great 80 minute commercial for the Tesla Supercharger network. I can let you know that Ionity network (European VAG network) is just as buggy.

[@MrStian78]

Ionity is not a VAG network, but I guess you don’t know much.

[@MrRatbrain]

from a new EV owner , thank you for the great video on all the issues with using electrify america.

[@Ricers]

Great video as always! The Taycan seems like a nice car and I agree it gets a bad rap. However, I am really disappointed to see all of the issues you ran into with the Electrify America network. With how long it takes to authorize charging+handshake+potentially move the car to a different spot, it seems Tesla supercharging may be faster. How do they expect this to work when more cars are on the road and these stations are full? Also, a great video idea would be to run a MS LR+ or Model 3 LR side by side with a Taycan. See who gets to the destination first.

[@kens97sto171]

That question has been answered. They just finished a cannonball run in this very car and beat their previous record in his model 3. Again I believe they had some charging problems that they worked out with direct contact with Electrify America. I have a suspicion that because this is a press car it could be a early production car or even a late prototype car. Could explain the issues with handshaking and overcharging etc. Don't know this for a fact but considering Kyle has used some of the same chargers on other cars without problem lends me to think that it's an issue with the vehicle more than the network in this particular case. Although Electrify America certainly has their fair share of issues. Keep in mind they have built over 500 charging stations in the last year the rate and pace of construction is really astonishing. It's not really surprising that there are some problems and glitches, someone else mentioned in the comments that there may have been financial penalties from the federal government if they didn't meet certain build out numbers within a certain time.

[@Ricers]

​@@kens97sto171 It is hard to compare cars on a long distance cross country run. I am sure there were lots of variables outside of the vehicles that affected times. We will have to wait to see the cannonball run video for the Taycan. I still think there would be value in seeing a side by side Tesla vs. Taycan rally for a shorter distance (400-600 miles). Regarding the build out of EA, if 3 out of the 4 chargers at a station do not work at stated charging speed that is not impressive. Owners are going to have issues if just one other person is charging at a station.

[@jonpetter8921]

EA CCS chargers are not like Tesla Superchargers that are build by Tesla only for Tesla cars. EA i not build by VW, and still has to be compatible not only with VAG EV but also other CCS EV unlike car Superchargers that work for one brand. EA build plenty of those stations in short time. Give it two years and you will see more CCS in the US, the quality may also be better.

[@anonjohnnyG]

@@jonpetter8921 or can just drive a tesla now and use it properly.

[@dvsls]

Imagine having all these issues on a road trip with your family, crazy annoying.

[@firebythewater4477]

Need the Griswold's to show us how it "could" go lolol

[@BillAnt]

Yeah man, the anxiety of finding the next charging station would stress me out... no thanks, at least not yet.

[@XKS99]

@@BillAnt This why people buy Tesla

[@JudgeNLN]

@@XKS99 100% why I did. I looked at the Mach-E and the Taycan and decided on a Model Y. I have a lot of friends with Teslas and not one of them has more than a single story where they plugged in and it didn't work, and in all those cases it was something broken about the supercharger (they plugged into one of the other lines and it worked fine). Everything I've heard and seen about other EVs charging on a public network like this sounds excruciating.

[@JudgeNLN]

@@mikeb1039 huh? I'm not a Tesla fanboy lol but even if we assume your numbers are correct that means people need some kind of public charging, notably when driving more than like 100 miles from home. Having used both a Taycan and multiple Teslas...there are major issues with only one of the platforms. And I love your ridiculous opinion that there's nothing else Teslas have over other EVs lol kk. Sounds like someone that hasn't driven a Tesla and another EV. Aside from the Taycan and eTron line, nothing else compares to modern Teslas.

[@BradleyBaker]

Awesome to watch as I'll be making this trip only in reverse for the first time in my Audi e-tron.

[@electricfelix]

Have fun!

[@GhostScaleRC]

Love how positive he is! EA throws non stop issues and he is smiling and moving on 🎉

[@herbtan3744]

From someone that listens to radio more, your voice is great for narration.

[@krantea]

Changing Charging stalls, fiddling with the navigation, toggling the car into range mode, sounds such a fun road trip

[@simonthebroken9691]

It's not about the road trip. It's about a real life accurate use. He does this to make your road trip better.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

But, but but - its a Porsche!

[@SWR112]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 in fairness take the Taycan and a model 3 performance over the Alps especially the Stelvio pass and you appreciate why there is such a huge price difference. Don’t get me wrong Tesla is a good car but the Taycan amazingly feels like a Porsche and drives like a Porsche and Tesla is certainly not on that level yet.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@SWR112 and it will never be. And it will never cost a quarter million euros. Correct. Still the taycan is a super audi but not a Porsche. Much too big and heavy. But times they are a changing...

[@harvey-6125]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 electric cars with range are inherently heavy

[@jannetapio23]

Hard to understand all this hate in the comments. Cool car, wish I had one in addition to my M3P. World would be a boring place if all cars were Teslas.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

You got it!

[@SWR112]

Absolutely Porsche first attempt at a proper full EV sports Car and it’s very very good. Quality it’s next level but that’s was never in question but it’s a drivers Car. Just like I wouldn’t touch Tesla on build quality issues - friend got a long range 2021 model a few weeks back and already back at the dealer five times for faults and fixes. The door seal actually fell off after a days use. But I understand the attraction when the charge network Tesla is light years ahead of everyone and if you can accept it’s a Tesla and the build quality is what it is then it’s a Car many will enjoy.

[@BillAnt]

Give it a few more years, pretty much all car makers have announce making EV's, but first we need a charging station at every single gas station for EV's to really take off. The "running out of juice" anxiety is what's keeping most folks getting an EV.

[@attachment4449]

Yes and Tesla are over hated it would be great to have one of those Ford built tuff dudes to have Ford make an ev that’s good so that the majority can stop hating also there’s always gonna be haters just the majority Tho The Porsche is nice btw. But it’s also kind of cool to talk about how nice your Tesla is🤣 jkjk

[@williamwilkinson2748]

Here in the UK we are in lockdown so cannot take my beautiful new Taycan Turbo S for a road trip. Going along with you was thoroughly enjoyable.

[@electricfelix]

So much to look forward to!

[@BehonestBestitchedup]

You won’t have had many failed charging adventures then. Always a positive.

[@broosewee]

Can't get enough of these road trip videos. Kyle is so good at it.

[@tonyshipton8896]

Seems to me Kyle is on Porsche and EA Payrolls

[@KhiTurner]

_I dont think the Taycan gets a bad rep from most car enthusiasts. The price limits it from the Model 3 fanbase_

[@BehonestBestitchedup]

Based on this why do you think it doesn’t?

[@eemgee9185]

Great channel, bro. It's always weird due to the vastness of youtube to see a content creator whose videos I watch randomly (seemingly, that is and obviously from my perspective) commenting on a video I clicked on in my recommended feed.

[@KhiTurner]

@@eemgee9185 _I think our comments float to the top lol yeah I'm a real person_

[@Fredyspaghetti]

How would you compare to model s plaid? Same price point right?

[@klxz79]

When are you going to finish uploading the Tesla summer vacation series? I loved watching those

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

They’re pretty much done

[@Chrisb8s]

what an adventure! One time I was in Pinetop, AZ and I just heard the tire on my car hissing. I had my family in the car and it was fully packed up! I clicked on nave to search for discount tire! we made it there just in time before the tire deflated completely. I ran over a spoon! crazy I LOVE discount tire.

[@LordLoMR2]

So far looks like a Tesla is more plug and play for road trips.

[@groupwiserockarfett]

Plug and pray

[@JAM_2024]

@@groupwiserockarfett for EA chargers ya

[@aggiewoodie]

Tesla’s Supercharger is unmatched…and won’t be for several more years.

[@kmancrx]

@@groupwiserockarfett 🤣🤣🤣

[@derekderek2570]

@@aggiewoodie as long as you're cool with abysmal charging curves

[@EverydayEV]

That Taycan combination is beautiful! Congrats on your achievements in this beautiful EV ⚡️😁

[@joshuakies]

Amazing content! As a new member of the Tesla family, your videos are invaluable. You’ve inspired my first road trip. I’ve changed from the mindset of range anxiety to range confidence with your help. Thanks, Kyle! Josh

[@mkkm945]

The EA session that worked (next to the red e-tron) shows the potential. They really need to iron out the bugs. A 19 minute stop got you 66 kWh, likely 200 miles. On my recent trip with wife + small dog, our stops were 8 min (toilet), 45 minute (food + toilet + gas), 7 min (toilet) and 37 min (food + toilet + gas). This sort of charging performance would make the trip possible in exactly the same time, if not a few minutes less! Amazing what can happen - hope it happens reliably soon.

[@ecodweeb]

You could live with an etron pretty easily given you had a total of 1.7hr downtime on that trip. How long was the trip?

[@mkkm945]

@@ecodweeb 820 miles. NYC to Chicago. Needed that much down time in 12.5 hrs of driving.

[@ernestbeggle1981]

Driving the speed limit, of course. Or as TeslaBjorn puts it, "Speed limit plus VAT." 🤣

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Ha!

[@Fugldod]

...and at 15:30 the speed limit sign on the dash says "70" and the speedometer says "87". Speedometer units must be set for kilometers :-)

[@brandonzerkhfaoui5731]

Bjorn who

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

27% in Hungary. Expensive. The Rendörszeg has no humor.

[@deleder557]

@@brandonzerkhfaoui5731 teslabjorn

[@renntech44]

Excellent way to start the week!

[@KyleBrightman]

Great as always, Kyle. I’m definitely jealous how much seat time you’ve gotten in the Taycan. I’m hoping to experience one in 2021. Definitely my favorite car out right now.

[@BehonestBestitchedup]

Your favourite car? Based on nothing working and it being ridiculously expensive? Wow, just wow! I found this hilarious first watch but it’s now just irritating as all the glaring problems are ignored by the team which would be happy in an electric milk float with one wheel. Like Mercedes the team at Porsche prioritises fancy shit but can’t make a good battery or motor. It’s a freaking joke car.

[@nazblack6771]

Ppl just wanna hate like ol' boy. I wanna get a Taycan as well

[@curtiswong454]

Thank you for sharing the official out of spec Starbucks drink recipe. Now I can finally try it. Been skimming your other road trips trying to find it.

[@opinionator3884]

"There are some charging bugs..." Ya' think?

[@opinionator3884]

Given the charging issues, coming into charging stations low on juice seems risky, to say the least. I got range anxiety just watching!

[@BillAnt]

​@@opinionator3884 < I think all EV's should have a hidden reserve, only accessible in absolute emergencies like getting stuck without any charge. And I'm not talking about the currently built-in reserve, something completely separate, maybe even a small gas generator, just in case.

[@paullasar7796]

Yes, EVs should have an emergency hand crank in the front bumper like the Ford Model T. 😝

[@kevinweber5129]

It sounded great with the Range being over 250 miles till you said it’s $140,000. ouch. But glad that VW/Porsche is now producing good EVs.

[@psudoctor3336]

Wow terrible charging issues on that trip.

[@jeffberwick]

Those wheels look like they came from a 1992 Saturn.

[@BillAnt]

Nothing wrong with a little recycling. ;D

[@PeopleAdverts]

Loved that car it was bitching back In the day

[@ghislainlejeune2214]

I like your reviews! And your positive attitude.... Lucky to road trip with this incredible car

[@andreassauerbrei]

Just bought a 2021 Taycan Cross Turismo in LA and drove it to Seattle where I live. It was a great trip and EV learning experience for me. During the entire trip I had one bad Electrify America experience where I had to change stalls until the 5. connection finally worked. Other than that, the car was connected and recognized and I got between 140 kW and 248 kW charging performance and finished in less that 30 minutes when charging to 80-85% from less than 10%. Plus for the first 30 years you get unlimited free 30 minutes charges with a new Taycan.

[@LJLion]

You should have shown the price of all the charging stops for some insight.

[@MrStian78]

It’s free charging for 3 years.

[@ArifSelect1]

@@MrStian78 26:02 but it shows $10.23 on the screen.. what it is ??

[@jatterhog]

@@ArifSelect1 he said he used his personal account sometimes, but if you use Porsche’s card it’s free.

[@F1travels]

Watching this in 2024 and hearing Kyle say the E-tron is a roadtrip monster 😆 Oh how times have changed quickly.

[@godislove025]

The Tesla charging network is the best !

[@Relansls]

More advertising for tesla 😂

[@ronfeinberg]

This was the best Tesla advertisement ever! I'm sure the Taycan is a great car as long as you don't road trip it. Imagine travelling with your family with all those charging issues. I'm on my 3rd Model S and have taken many 1000+ mile road trips, and never even had a problem or a thought about supercharging. VW needs to up its game big time. As well, compared to my Tesla, the Porsche's NAV looks like it was designed in crayon.

[@kierancasey1135]

Ya but the Tesla car looks like it’s being designed by a 5 year old ugliest cars on the road no character at all

[@tymanot]

Great Video showing the problems of doing long drives with non Teslas. Several Apps plus the Navi in the car. Too much for most people. Chargers not reliable enough. But man, I love the car. Greetings from Germany.

[@laloajuria4678]

have to use phone....handshake is long...and you already had a failed charger first time....come on ppl, get the competition right!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

But the car is - a Porsche!

[@nafnaf0]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 I think the problem is Electrify America with the Porsche's super high demand

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@nafnaf0 May Be. But then they are the same company. Thats no excuse.

[@jjayguy23]

@@wolfgangpreier9160 I’m not buying this Porsche until they fix the charging network. Imagine having a car that can’t use gas stations reliably. NOPE!!!!!

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

@@jjayguy23 Thats ok. I would not buy it either. But then i'm the cybertruck type. Not the Porsche type.

[@FromJustJ]

This video shows exactly why Tesla continues, and will continue for some time, to crush the competition when it comes to road trips and for folks who can't charge at home. For EVs, at least for a while longer, charging infrastructure is at least as important as the vehicles themselves.

[@NormanGaming196]

I think we'll live to see Tesla be a normal automaker, once they sort out quality problems and the electric car becomes the norm, I feel like they'll be an option and a good one later on.

[@TheTaino84]

I can't believe these companies can't get the chargers to work. I drive a Nissan Leaf and I had to move from a nonworking 50KW to a level 2 7KW a couple of times at midnight. Tesla still 5 years ahead of everybody else.

[@memphield]

exactly, the porsche itself is a quite nice car, beautiful interior, good quality etc BUT the car itself isnt enough to have a great experience - that's where tesla crushes

[@Jesvox1234]

fanboy.

[@mikeyhoje1282]

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[@audivisual]

I am an Audi driver, ordered the e-tron S here in Austria. Have to complement you on your laid back, positive YT style. Think as well, that the Taycan, especially among the hardcore Tesla fans, is way underrated. What a lot of people miss is that every EV on the road, regardless of make is a good EV. Really look forward to Taycan‘s ‘prettier’ brother: the etron GT. Always safe travels and may the EA 350 chargers be with you :-)

[@anonjohnnyG]

etron means turd in french

[@marksimpson3968]

Great video. Honestly I don’t know how you make your road trips without a bottle of windex and a roll of paper towels. All those smeared bugs on the windshield would drive me nuts! Safe travels.

[@peterhammer6915]

Really nice and interesting video to see for a future Taycan owner, thanks! Just ordered my 4S today, should have it beginning of June.

[@12345maxx]

So many cars are coming online to use the EA network people are going to get fed up with how incompetent this system is.

[@NoHarmDunn]

Yeah EA is gonna catch even more heat than they did when they shut down the chargers during the holiday season.

[@jonpetter8921]

Give them more time. They built plenty of charging station in short time. They will be up there. Matter of time.....

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

@@NoHarmDunn how did you expect them to fix them ? Do you even use them or are you a Tesla owner who loves to be negative about anything that isn’t Tesla . People should be glad they are there . You wouldn’t be able to go out of state or cross country without ea in a non Tesla.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Do you have a ev or are you just piling on. How bout reporting places that do work instead of a few that don’t . I use. Ea every week and it works. I went to another location an hour and 1/2 away and it worked fine also. All people do on social media is comain

[@paullasar7796]

@Mark Fitzpatrick: you spelled “complain” wrong.

[@ChuckJ1944]

Very nice video! I love your attitude, I would have been very frustrated. You will be interested that I got 29.6 Kwh/100 miles on a trip from Goshen, AR to Ft Smith and back with 20"Turbo wheels at 40 psi on September 12, 2020 in my 4S. If you don't know that is a mountainous area so we went down hill, then back up hill. The trip was done at the speed limit which was mostly 75 and some 70 after we got out of town. Interestingly I also had some charger problems last night at the Rogers EA station. The Porsche connect app would not bring up the stations and neither would the EA app. I had to call them to start the charge. Today, the Porsche connect app brings up the stations.

[@MartinTreurnicht]

I'd love to know if this was an issue with the car or the chargers, would be really good info for potential buyers.

[@MrStian78]

The problem is the chargers

[@johnloneman3513]

I just watched his road trip with the ford mach e and he had problems as well with charging. So pretty sure it's the charger its the chargers

[@SF49ersfanatic]

37:16 when you start talking to your car and the charger you know you’re in for trouble...

[@vladimiralexandrov5930]

This car is a true game changer. For only $110,000+ this is the best EV to road trip. Imagine fiddling with your phone just to start charging? Imagine experience of trying out 2-3 different chargers at one stop? How cool is that? And to top it all off, visiting Walmart to get that perfect sandwich while you are waiting. I think we have a winner and I don't see how Tesla will manage to survive

[@SnowManson]

Plus, you get to visit the dealer to check if your car even has the latest software. Everyone loves doing that.

[@Relansls]

OMFG🤣🤣🤣

[@brendanderoma1849]

Ahem, "only" +$110,000,

[@BboySnake71]

Holy Sh$t! People talk about the learning curve with a Tesla having everything on the screen....300 drive modes!, 80 buttons, 800 settings, 50 screen settings....geezus! Only slight exaggeration.

[@benlappin]

We really need to standardize chargers in this country

TeslaBjorn says that you should hold the plug (keep pushing it in) during the handshake for the actuator to lock. Maybe that would help with some of the problems.

[@leopard3c]

American, who is pronouncing Porsche right, is always a pleasure for my ears

[@JBoy340a]

Supercharger by me as 20 stalls that are busy quite often. The co-located 12 EA stalls almost never have a car. They even have a 350 Kw stall I have never seen anyone use.

[@blueplanet1048]

Because they never work properly lol 😅

[@Canvexx]

"The Tesla people just don't get it." Hm.. I don't know Kyle, this video only reaffirmed how much I love my Tesla! Lol. Not to mention it's almost 2.5X as expensive as the Model 3 for this trim. I'm sure it is fun to drive though.

[@hermanwooster8944]

Tesla will only get better with the advent of the new Model S and Cybertruck with 500+ miles of range!

[@sergiofacchinetti2954]

At the same time it’s 2.5 times more reliable and Better built

[@sergiofacchinetti2954]

And this explains why everyone hates Tesla owners even if you don’t ask them they will tell you that they have one

[@SWR112]

@@sergiofacchinetti2954 That is true but let’s face it you don’t expect a Tesla to have Porsche build quality and paint finish that is second to none. Elon can only dream about build quality

[@tomfromnorthcarolina1491]

Looking at how many options there are to set and also how many options can be activated in multiple ways -- this screen, and this button and this combination button and screen -- makes me appreciate the simplistic interface that Tesla provides. My old Chevy Volt had physical buttons and touch screen controls which I found to be more confusing. Tesla's all screen design seems so much better.

[@DennisCW]

I got to ride in a Porsche Taycan Turbo S and it was insane

[@electricfelix]

Sure is!

[@SilverString56]

Love this channel. After watching this and the Mach-E trip, I sure am glad I have a Tesla.

[@bgblystyle]

Stall hopping would piss me off so bad! Especially if I paid $140k for the car.

[@richardscathouse]

Pretty expensive current. My utility supplies 100amps at 21¢ a kw hr

[@Fredyspaghetti]

No way in hell people buying at that price point would be okay with that bs😂

[@JMD535]

For someone considering a used Taycan,...or say,...a new or used i4 M50,...i5 M60, or even a Tesla, this has been a perfect video to watch. In addition, I thank you Kyle for all of the transparency regarding the EA charging network ...of which, I'm about half through the vid and view their network as about an 80-90% network,...or viewed another way ...a 10-20% fail due to the availability of WORKING really Fast Chargers! Those that want to invest in an electric vehicle don't want to have one foot in the electric camp and the other foot in the ICE camp. So, as much as manufacturers want to sell EVs, unless they are willing g to invest in the "Charging Network" at the level of Tesla, then the migration to EVs from ICE vehicles will be a lot slower than anyone want to happen! Folks are accustomed to making a road trip on 1 ...to 2 ...to 3 tanks of gas,...and with an EV,....and depending on which EV, that would mean 1-2 stops per equivalent tank of gas distance! When I visit family near Tampa from Northern VA, I can make the trip (900 miles) within 2 tanks of gas in an X5,...a TT V8 X5 at that. Also, I usually stop about 4 times, at the border of VA/NC,...the first Rest Area in SC ...and either in Brunswick, GA area or Exit 2 just near the GA/FL border and then around Ocala area. So, I'm not against having to stop for charging, but stopping and not finding working Chargers is a major Fail! In parting, the 900 mile trip takes me 17hrs going and 15.5 hours for the return trip. If I could make the same trip in an EV in about a +1 hour difference, I say that would be a win for me.

[@jaredp17]

tesla low voltage helps with charging stability?

[@andypyatt2783]

I have a couple MB EVs and have used the port charlotte and Bushnell chargers. The MBs won’t pull that much charge. Have had similar issues in PC but the Bushnell chargers have always worked great for me

[@kens97sto171]

Absolutely fantastic video, what an absolutely beautiful car. if I had an unlimited budget I would definitely get one of these. That customizable interior and the 300 settings to make your car perfect for you is definitely right up my alley. This is a press car and I'm wondering if maybe it's an early production car or even a late prototype. I wonder if that could be the problem with the charging. Maybe it's the car not the network causing the glitches? Anyway glad you posted it thoroughly enjoyable watching your road trips.

[@Simonforeveryoung]

Great video. Very informative. Now I know EV is not quiet ready for prime time. Looking forward to the time when charging get a smooth operation.

[@pbfishing5153]

Watch a Tesla video.

[@TechboyUK]

All those charging issues - this video is a GREAT advert for Tesla!

[@brandonmartinez9259]

This is what make it tough for me to get into full electric vehicles. I got a sonata hybrid back in Jan and I can go from Arkansas to Colorado 810 miles on one fuel stop averaging 75-80mph. So until I can do one stop for charging in a full electric car then I'll consider one

[@peterrabbit2719]

See how much fun trying to charge in the dead of winter.

[@ronb4633]

FYI Kyle, the equal sign with the slash in upper right corner of PCM display at 4:00 indicates private mode and will limit navigation. I have had my car mysteriously drop into private mode every once in a while. You can press on it to get back out of privacy.

[@OutofSpecMotoring]

Nope - it was in private mode because of a dead SIM card in the PCM - no way to exit out and confirmed by a Porsche dealer

[@ronb4633]

@@OutofSpecMotoring sorry to hear it Kyle, you keep a great attitude throughout. I'm sure Porsche and EA will work through their SW issues. Looking forward to your track videos.

[@jsigmon88]

Was really hoping the EA network would be more reliable with them replacing some of the chargers a few months ago

[@pabbip9]

I keep telling people the only thing that’s really keeping me with Tesla is the charging network. The speed, locations, ease of use is just superb. Until companies can match that they can’t touch Tesla. I love Porsches ( I have a 911 996 turbo ) and really want them to workout but from this video it shows it still has a way to go.

[@xplmr1]

Tesla owners don't know the struggle. I'm getting charging anxiety from watching this video.

[@bluebox2000]

The driver may want to cut down on the caffeine a bit. These charging issues are a huge problem for EV adoption. Tesla Superchargers don't typically have these problems and is a HUGE selling point.

[@jonpetter8921]

In Europe there are more CCS than Superchargers in the bigger cities and it keeps increasing. The US wont be any difference in a couple of years..

[@jonpetter8921]

@siliara Tesla superchargers are made by Tesla for Tesla so it s not a no brainer why it works better for Tesla.

[@bigdane1327]

Great review!!!! How good is the massage function? How good is the ventilated seat function?

[@akshaygi]

Moral of the story: Tesla will be the market leader and the best EV vehicle to get, because of its infrastructure. Hands down

[@Bogdan-bb4you]

thwe only advantage it has so far...the charger infrastructure...but the quality of the car is very very poor if you compare it to Germans

[@siskiyouforest4186]

@@Bogdan-bb4you if you ignore range, efficiency, software and cultural appeal, you MIGHT be correct!

[@Bogdan-bb4you]

@@siskiyouforest4186 efficiency...they are kind of the same! Software...I personaly had issues with Tesla as well! A lot! All sorted true, but I had them! The build quality is 300% worst than a Porsche! Or Audi...or Mercedes! So for my personal opinion and use...Tesla hasn't convinced me! I like the ideea ...it will get better, Tesla and competitors as well ... but for now ...for me...Tesla lets me down on the build quality, materials used, noise insulation that is the worst out of everything I tested!

[@siskiyouforest4186]

@@Bogdan-bb4you efficiency....if you google “ev core efficiency chart” you will see that they are all “about” the same but Tesla hold the top 9 spots on the list. Your software issues are now fixed so it seems you are admitting that Tesla’s software is NOW the best? And you didn’t mention range or cultural appeal, so you seem to be admitting they are the best there by conspicuously avoiding the subjects. All I was pointing out is that Tesla’s charging infrastructure is not their ONLY advantage as you mentioned in your first reply, that is all.

[@jacksonmurphy8449]

@@siskiyouforest4186 I grew up near Siskiyou! My one comment is that Tesla range is trash if you’re going 80 mph. If you’re a free way traveler, it seems Porsche is king. They also beat Tesla in the Cannonball Run meaning it IS possible to road trip and there IS infrastructure out there. Also, I don’t like to rely on numbers put out by manufacturers. Tesla seems to be very liberal with its range numbers, while Porsche has always been very conservative. Unless it comes from a trusted third party, most manufacturers can put whatever achievable number they want to their specs even if it’s only achievable in the lab. As far as cultural appeal, I feel it’s hard to argue that people WANT Tesla’s. You can’t argue that point unless there are other options. They just like having electric cars that can drive themselves. I really dislike the Tesla exterior and interior design and find the whole package hard to stomach at their price points. You could argue that there is significant cultural appeal around the Ford Focus as well, but it doesn’t mean they’re the best car out there.

[@NightRidah777]

If your road trip consists of driving from station to station at the same charging center then this car is perfect

[@Josh-179]

VW builds both the charger and the car, and the cable doesn't reach, LOL.

[@cysong88161]

german engineering

[@JH-dh2ws]

VW doesn't build EA charger, they fund them and third parties build the hardware and chargers.

[@Josh-179]

@@JH-dh2ws , true, by "build" I was alluding to the fact VW group has helped fund the project. I would just think that the chargers would have a long enough cable for a VW group product. AE cables should be long enough for every scenario as it is intended for all EVs.

[@JH-dh2ws]

@@Josh-179 They’re probably also not the ones in charge of QC. Though I imagine over time the stations will get improved since it seems their current concern is building out enough to support the ev market in the US. I imagine non Tesla EV owners in my state will be happy just to have fast chargers on some of the routes here considering all we had in Alabama before hand was Tesla Superchargers and I think two fast chargers? Everything else was lvl 2 or slower

[@MrStian78]

VW do not build Porsche.

[@Dankflamio]

Maybe I’m just young and not “car enthusiast” enough but I actually really like the way aerowheels look on cars. Same with small wheels. Luckily for me, both those are more efficient to drive with.

[@TeslaHo]

taycan dash lookin good!

[@m-khs-1748]

Good video. I have a Mendel 3 and a model x and I love both of them, but i. Am interested in the taycon but very curious how they compare with charging and road tripping so this video had me interested. The only thing I would like to see is this. If you could have a chart with this data from charging station to station 1) location, 2) weather/ temp, 3) range at arrival and range on departure 4) battery percent, 5) miles traveled, 6) arrival time at charger, 7) departed time, and charging speed like you did Keep up the good work. Would like to see a video with footage from tesla, Porsche and mustang road tripping comparing all three. Thanks again

[@modulonatic]

Man, ElectrifyAmerica need to improve their software infrastructure. These charging faults scream software. @Kyle is ElectrifyAmerica hiring software developers at the moment or on the next 3 months? Would be interested to help them :D

[@MrDaniel3105]

What do you do if you run out of charge before you get to a recharging station. Seem like way to may bug in the charging system

[@arrowlogproductions2509]

Tesla needs to add the air conditioned seats and a passenger display to the Model S and X. Also, Electrify America needs to work on station reliability.

[@joetripp123]

Super impressed that Porsche routes through fast chargers, that's awesome. They need to show the right rims that are on the car in the display but that can be fixed later. That car has 50,000 bells and whistles - I can see that overwhelming a new Porsche owner. I'm not surprised the car wanted to stay to the west of FL, I have family members that recommend that too - traffic on the east coast of FL is much slower. I hope EA can get those high power 350kW units working better - probably just some tweaks here and there. That flat tire - man you get yourself in some interesting scenarios Kyle.

[@lbtobl83]

So glad I own a Tesla, would not have the nerve and most of all the time to be joking around charging stations with other EVs. Great roadtrip video though!

[@fachadolid3030]

Yes, the quality build of a tesla is a soviet car, youve been scammed for your money !

[@lbtobl83]

@@fachadolid3030 Made my day. I suppose you drive a VW.

[@fachadolid3030]

@@lbtobl83 no i dont, but i wouldnt pay 60k for a soviet car interior like tesla, and the resale value close to 0, so youre gonna have a problem when you try to sell it

[@lbtobl83]

@@fachadolid3030 Soviet car interior? Ever seen a tesla or a lada up close? I agree about quick depreciation, the secret is not to buy a new tesla, but if you get a good deal on a used car, you can sell it one year later for more. Been there, done that more than once. :)

[@Relansls]

@@fachadolid3030 From where you getting this fud from?😂

[@RealHomerSimp2025]

thanks for the great video, wow the ran of fuel problem is not just for EV's. We had similar experience with gasoline car with two young kids in the back around mid night on I-5 middle of no where and I almost had an heart attack. First time I saw 0 miles on the meter..

[@NJMike67]

Great video. You sold me on buying a Tesla yet again.

[@scottbreseke716]

Me too.

[@jonpetter8921]

It doens t help the poor sale of Model S or X though. Both E tron and Taycan were outselling those two Tesla models last year...... And give it 1 year before EA is closing Superchargers number. In Europe there are more CCS than Superchargers in the bigger cities.

[@scottbreseke716]

@@jonpetter8921 The "poor sale" of the Models S and X was due to competition with the Model 3, not from the competition with the E tron or Taycan.

[@goodspeed01]

Me too.

[@jonpetter8921]

@@scottbreseke716 Sorry but you are totally wrong. How can a small sedan competing with a 7 setter SUV and a premium sedan. That doesn t make sense. You already lost the debate i m afraid.

[@pjw7007]

Love your enthusiasm. However, this video confirms that VW/Porsche/EA are not ready for road trip prime time. My favorite quote is, "Well, at least we are not stranded." Range anxiety much? Most interesting to me is that the EV experience with local use is better than ICE in that you just plug in at home and no worries, ever, and no going to a gas station. Road trips, however, as you document, are a continually anxious adventure, something few are willing to pay a premium to endure.

[@dmontz28]

Nice beautiful car. But I'll stick with my Long range M3, 305 range. Thanks for the video.

[@tedlawrence1348]

I would no put up with that charger frustration. Excellent review and information.

[@larryrichmond]

The car looks great, EA charging network, not so much. Definitely pretty stark comparison to Tesla superchargers.

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

8 years for tesla supercharger 2 years for EA plus tesla only has to worry about tesla ea is for non tesla

[@davidwho8215]

Wait, you said 326 wH/mile is better than your model 3P at 75 mph? My old P85D with 21" wheels gets around 328 wH/mile at 75, when in Florida, due to completely flat land.