TDPI: What if Amy never returned?

What if in season 6 of Total Drama. Amy never returned after being eliminated?
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[@aliceguevarra727]

Alternate Title: How to make Pahkitew Island better

[@drexlerloveswrestling5775]

Naw pahkitew island still sucks

[@SpottyGem]

Alternate Alternate Title: How to make Pahkitew Island slightly better

[@Saturn_saf88]

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[@Jess19980]

@@drexlerloveswrestling5775 yeah, Chris was such an A-hole in this season just like how he was in All-Stars, as well as Revenge of The Island.

[@frog9311]

THIS WOULD'VE BEEN SUCH A GOOD SEASON 😭😭!! It would've made Sky a more compelling anti-hero protagonist instead of a boring mary-sue like character, would've given Ella, Sammy, and Dave better characters, topher would've had a really nice character arc, Scarlett would've had more time to be a compelling villain befores she assasinates her character, and sugar would've been eliminated earlier.

[@TDWonderer]

glad you liked it! pahkitew is a mess to write for....many reasons and there were a lot things I had to progress in the original story that I didn't like (Sky x Dave, Scarlett fever) that I was worried would spoil the end result but glad that you liked what I did with Sky

[@froggynico]

Anything is better than Og TDPI.😭 This episode really made me value both topher and Sammy’s character’s more

[@elitettelbach4247]

This hypothetical Sammy and Topher dynamic is very compelling!!

[@iraflopera]

babe wake up new td wonderer video just dropped

[@mxpickle-b4r]

You know what, this seems like a better write than the original. Kinda sucks that Scarlett goes bananas in this version too. But it’s very interesting to see Samey and Topher go farther in the game. Also, I can totally see Ella disobeying Chris’ wish in episode 8 when her baby is getting fussy.

[@randunker]

It's too bad it's based on the original or else we could've seen scarlett be a decent villian

[@mxpickle-b4r]

@@randunker I mean, they could’ve written Scarlett’s villain arc a little better by making her not sound like Max.

[@theultra5482]

@@randunkerI would be down to do a reboot of this show with an entirely different storyline tbh.

[@theultra5482]

Fun fact. Episode One was the only Episode where Dave was a good character really. They had 2 routes: 1)The Guy who thinks everyone is weirdos and he’s the only normal dude 2)Obsess over Sky because she looks the most normal. They overdid the 2, I would have written it by the 1.

[@theultra5482]

Then Sky might have actually liked Dave but Dave pushes Sky away but Sky doesn’t act like how Dave acted, she would be less obsessed but still sure interested in him.

[@Gwen1661]

As a Sammy fan, this was a delight to watch and I'm totally digging how you imagined things to develop with Amy never returning. Topher especially was my biggest surprise since in canon he's extremely unbearable, but I like the development you give him and his bond with Sammy is actually cute.

[@TDWonderer]

Topher was definitely annoying at times in the original but I think his character was a much more bearable version of a character that is meant to be disliked, plus he's kind of just a himbo that's arrogant

[@Bread771]

@@TDWondererarrogant himbo that’s like a different flavor of Lightning

[@indie6585]

@Bread771 perfect description

[@mydogghost]

⁠​⁠@@TDWondererI just found him funny he would fit in an other season has a joke character

[@justarandomperson976]

This was actually better then the actual elimination order tbh and i LOVED the Sammy and Topher plot sm

[@jboozey3123]

Really liked how this ended up going for the most part as I love Sammy as a character. Unfortunately tho it turned skye into a secondary villain who nobody wants to win

[@TDWonderer]

I tried to play with the idea of having two characters, both with their own flaws, making it to the finale and watching them have to an individual journey to win. I could understand if that just made Sky unlikable to you but I was trying to make her more of an anti hero. Instead of your typical TD villain that's smarmy or just straight up a terrible person, I tried to make Sky a bit more grounded and just someone who's determined to win after the whole Dave situation and then has to face Dave at the end making her revert back to herself. again, my videos are up to interpretation and if you just viewed Sky as villain that didn't deserve the win. I get that, just wanted to explain my vision.

[@serenepastel]

There was so much great interpersonal relationship development between the characters. You can really see how each person feels and how they get to their final point

[@kiabb8851]

Loved the video! Here's a few suggestions on what would also make for fun ideas: - What if Heather pretended to be nice for the majority of TDI (She did that in the 2nd episode and said that you should keep your friends close and enemies closer, but by 3rd episode she was her usual, mean self. Most importantly it means that she doesnt read Gwen's diary and Gophers probably win the challenge show) - What if Duncan never quit on WT (I assume he would cheat on Courtney much earlier resulting in Gwen or Courtney and maybe evne him, leaving the show much earlier thab in canon) or altenatively: What if Duncan was eliminated in Greece and Area 54 was non-elimination round - What if Mal never existed (Mal is like the most controversial "character" of all time of the show and he was very crucial to AS plot, so it would be interesting to see it play out without his interference)

[@TDWonderer]

strong suggestions!

[@highonsugar6273]

I honestly think Sammie should’ve been the main character this season with Amy being the main villain, would’ve been so much better than Sugar being the villain

[@tanjastjepanovic3696]

This is really cool! You even made Topher likeable!

[@djdoesstuffz5896]

I liked topher

[@daemonddume408]

I really liked this what if, Topher, Samey, and Ella were my favorites of this season originally so this narrative where they do significantly much more was very entertaining and i got very invested. One of the reasons also i got invested is because i feel like the eliminations minus Topher's' for those were a bit unfair to me. Additionally, i saw some people saying that during the twin fight one of them seems to mention Topher to offend the other so i think this really would've been how the season would play out. As far as scarlet, it's sad it would be likely it would remain the same with her but that would be another fun what if. What if she wasn't cartoonish evil

[@TDWonderer]

I'm not big on changing characters personalities for What-ifs since those are part of their characters and as unfortunate as it is, Scarlett was always crazy. If I could find a what-if where Scarlett could grow as a person maybe growing to actually like someone (or as I saw in the comments earlier someone said that if Scarlett's plan worked and no one stopped her then Scarlett could very easily just say she was fibbing since her murdering everyone wouldn't get her the money and that's what she wants) then I could apply this to her in a proper what-if style

[@dragonitematero]

​@@TDWonderer honestly I always thought she went mad due to having to endure Max's evil buffonery for so long (tbh I only watched that season once and it's more than I can actually endure), so when you eliminated Max early I thought it would mean Scarlett could transition into more of a stealth villain (aka one that pretends to be nice, kinda like a female Alejandro since Heather doesn't really bother to be nice unless she wants something from someone), but Scarlett not going insane and actually being this would be a nice What If? scenario. I still really liked this one though, great job 👍

[@CrushAugust]

I really like the new relationship between Sam and Topher, great idea fr

[@Trottskee]

This is now my head cannon version of this Season 😂, Topher and Samey have such a cool dynamic in this. Shawn is still that lovable person. Sky is a bit better, more like Duncan as the Anti-Hero of the season in a way. But yeah really like this season much more than the cannon.

[@TDWonderer]

im glad you see Sky as the anti-hero since that's definitely more what I was going for than a typical TD villain that's smarmy or diabolical, I just wanted her to become dedicated at winning and willing to do anything to get there since that's kinda what her break-up with Dave was about at its core (until he became psycho) so I thought it'd be more interesting to add on to that.

[@youraveragenickel2177]

Another fun what-if! Fun fact: the show pretty much confirms that one of the Pahkitwins has a crush on Topher during their fight in episode 5. If you ever do another Pahkitew what-if but have no way to stop Scarlett, you could have Scarlett herself shut down the countdown and reveal that the her evil reveal was actually just an elaborate bluff to get the money, but Chris was too selfish for her calculations and it failed.

[@TDWonderer]

maybe, creative point but I feel like the second she looks at Chris and tells him that she won't save the island that even if she does save the island Chris would still know that she planned on letting everyone die. but Chris is pretty messed up in the head at this point in TD history so he might even like that because it shows her ruthlessness. thanks for the idea I would like the prospect of working that into another what if, maybe even just doing this idea as a stand alone for a video because it allows Scarlett to become a more dynamic villain

[@nick0911]

When Amy and Sammy fight at the elimination in Episode 5, there's a bit in which Amy says to Sammy that Topher thinks she's fat. We can't really hear it well since Chris talks over it but it's there.

[@GothicPurple]

These are actually impressive it's like you write an extended fanfiction based on just one minor change

[@kyu12345]

This one change makes this season 10x better

[@AdrowFigens]

Season 6 is not really the best. But what you managed to do with it felt pretty well. I like getting max out earlier and Sugar too. It would make the show more watchable :D You gave some pretty interesting arcs to Samy and Topher, a shame that Scarlet still had to ruin her character. Great video yet again, the new font is great too. I didn't even need to pause to read. Hope you are recovering well from being sick :)

[@AdrowFigens]

I also wanted to suggest a few what if too just as ideas that I have wondered myself. "TDWT: What if Chris never spent all the shows money on random stuff instead of fuel and the plane didn't crash in Jamaica?" "TDI(2023): What if they voted out Ripper instead of Axel?" "TDAS: What if Brick was a contestant instead of Sam?" and "TDI: What if Heather didn't have plot armour?"

[@TDWonderer]

thanks for the condolences about my sickness, I am doing moderately better

[@GarbbCan]

I love the idea of Sky basically being the villain at the end, good vid!!

[@D-ManLindsay]

I'm really enjoying your videos so far. Keep up the good work 👍

[@MissAkechi]

I love the Topher x Sammy route you took and how you made Topher more of a character. Nice job !!

[@brennaflaherty8871]

I really wish we got to see more of Sammy.

[@Maw0]

I like how Topher wins despite trying to overthrow Chris.

[@mrormrs.something3897]

What if Scott never overheard Dawn’s confessional in Backstabbers Ahoy!

[@TheGodIvy]

Finally, one for ROTI that doesnt get Scott out early

[@Mister_Dollz]

In this version of the show, I wonder how things would go down, when Sammy and Amy’s parents watch and see Sammy going farther than Amy.

[@TD_Scottyboi]

Im Pretty Sure That Its Conformed That Samey Liked Topher

[@TDWonderer]

yeah, i didn't know about that till after making this but it turns out that its canon that Samey liked Topher because she felt like he had all the confidence she liked. Again didn't know when making this but its pretty cool to find out after the fact

[@Ttlydramifiednerd]

For a what if a good one would be, “What If: Beth didn’t show the cursed Idol?”

[@mantasvilunas2636]

Bye Heather,lol

[@Donch32]

Welp, that's my headcannon now.

[@Mintymenty]

Error: Sugar would send an note to Chris saying "Ella sang" but Sugar isn't here to do that. Or it could be possible for someone else to snitch on Ella.

[@TheGodIvy]

It happens this time because Ella would be in range of Scuba/Bling bear, so Chef (and presumably Chris) are actually around to hear her this time

[@juanwashington-cruz2294]

So much better than the actual season

[@TDWonderer]

glad you think so!

[@pedrojosebellobelen3824]

Honestly I like this far more than the actual season and as far as I’m concerned Topher winning is completely canon ending here because his character development and how good he made in the career overall makes it work better than Sky whom pretty much would have Karma biting her in the end. As an epilogue I can see Topher and Sammy reuniting and being a couple while sharing the money much to Amy’s annoyance XP

[@ChazTheFloofer]

SPOILER Once again another great video and also once again you've made this season way better, Sammy, Topher, and Ella get more development, and Sugar doesn't ruin the season once again. It's sad that Shawn isn't a finalist anymore but it's worth the sacrifice.

[@Chaotic_melon]

Tbh if this would happen this would be one of my fav seasons

[@Althea19480]

YESSSSSSSS THIS IS BETTER THAN THE OG AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK😊❤️

[@TDWonderer]

THANKSSSS

[@prostheticzee]

You literally made this better than the original

[@Hirosha4747]

Great video again! My suggestion is than for TDI what if nobody agreed to switch teams with Katie (or Sadie). Izzy switched so Katie and Sadie were in a team together but what if nobody switched. They would be in different teams and the challenges could go very differently

[@sirkillalot9892]

Well Izzy is a ticking time bomb because the RCMP were coming anyway. Depends if she gets eliminated earlier. Because she might have trouble hiding in Playa Des Losers. The first challenge would probably be neither Katie/Sadie jumping, but basically Gophers still win the trolleys so they probably win the hot tub. I imagine Sadie would just be another potential target along with Zeke and Courtney. Also the Sucky Outdoors would have completely different circumstances. A lot to work with.

[@Hirosha4747]

@@sirkillalot9892 i know it would be a long video but he is the only TDI what if creator that makes such long videos, so that's why I suggested it

[@sirkillalot9892]

@@Hirosha4747 Absolutely no issue for it.

[@dragonulcosmicreal9929]

This makes the seazon way beetter. I wild pay to watch this

[@supermontythomas2159]

I can't believe it's almost been a year since you made this, This was one of my favorites when I started watching your channel, You are so awesome at these stories, you made me love the idea of Sammy and Topher together.

[@mmmfreshest]

Another alternate timeline i think would be really interesting is "what if Eva didn't target brigette" maybe it would be the same maybe everything would change

[@dylanjohnson3346]

You deff made this season better 1 gave my girl samey development 2 gave sky more that just dave and most impoertantlly 3 got rid of sugar lol

[@TDWonderer]

yeah sky was heavily robbed of getting some development because she wasn't necessarily a typical flat character that has a boring personality, her personality was fairly interesting at the beginning it was just never expanded on (except with Dave but....yikes)

[@antoeab]

Pahkitew’s cast is basically the definition of wasted potential, the twins both Amy and Sammy had a whole lot of potential with such a great possibility to be great characters, I really like Pahkitew, it’s an awful season but it’s entertaining and I like the characters, I like Dave and Sky being the opposite of the girl and boy from this team fall in love, I like Jasmine and Shawn’s weird but cute relationship, I will always like Sammy and Amy’s background and Sammy eliminating Amy is one of the best eliminations in the whole show, and for myself I really manage to enjoy Scarlett, Topher and Ella, it’s a really messy season but it really appeals to me, I can imagine how good it could be with changes like the ones you do, you did jus5 the scenario of Amy not coming back and opened for most of the characters that got somehow wasted or ruined get better and solid development.

[@TDWonderer]

yeah a lot of people shit on this season and its not good by any means but it did suprise me on the rewatch how likable most of the characters were (until the merge episode)

[@Daansstuff-alt]

I feel like the thing that would have also fixed this season a lot is a different elimination order

[@antoeab]

@@Daansstuff-alt yeah because to be honest it sucks a lot, I think a good elimination order could really make everything in the season more likable, they could even do more with most of the characters and the fact there was 2 double eliminations didn't really work for me, neither of them made like a lot of sense to be honest, i think the elimination order could be better if it was Leonard, Beardo, Rodney, Amy, Max, merge and Sugar, Ella, Dave, Topher, Sammy, Final 4 would be Scarlett, Sky, Sammy, Shaun and idk but I think that if the season got something right it was the finalists, bland but the best options tbh so Sammy 4th, Scarlett 3rd and Sky and Shaun finale again

[@tetraxis3011]

Wasted characters has been a problem since Season 1 with Ezekiel, Katie, and Sadie.

[@bossome77777]

i know it would be less interesting but with topher still trying to steal chris’s host position he would probably keep him voted off along with disqualifying ella

[@TDWonderer]

I guess, but I also feel like Chris isn't very threatened by Topher given how he just lets him keep the phone without taking it back. This is totally possible but idk I feel it's also possible that Chris would just think its funny given how he set it up to play a prank on Topher

[@Goodwill890]

Sky would be a great villain!

[@limasquarterback]

one thing i would comment on, sugar snitched on ella that she sung, now that sugar left why would ella be eliminated?

[@TheGodIvy]

Cuz she'd actually be in range for someone to hear, wether its Chef or Chris

[@-cookiez-]

This was amazing, it feels so much better than the original! Sugar is gone early, Scarlett had time to develop as a villain, Dave x Sky was a little better, Sammy and Topher developed much better as characters and Sammy got to prove she was worth more than Amy made her out to be. Sky gets a nice development as well, making her more interesting and establishing her as more of an Anti-Hero than a Mary Sue protagonist. Lastly, I liked the return of Amy as a villain for the finale giving her that much needed villain role, she could've filled out originally. All in all, this was a great overview and deduction. Good work!

[@awm8414]

45:20 This is a lot more satisfying than cannon

[@JakesoontobeJack]

What if Dawn exposed Scott? (ROTI) What if Zoey found the disk sooner? (AS) What if Sugar never scared Clucky? (PI)

[@lyndsiquethelonegamer]

W Samey

[@bossome77777]

i think world tour but with 2 teams would be awesome

[@TDWonderer]

I would like to this one but i've been trying to get more involved in the community and I noticed that there is a really great video done Lightro_Storm on this what if. Plus his content is a lot higher quality than my own so if you haven't seen his video I would recommend giving it a watch

[@Shybandicoot1518]

Very interesting how one small Changes a lot things Love the Video Another Fun what If you could do is what If Izzy and Sierra never Switch Teams in the Beginning of Total Drama World Tour

[@saltyricee]

Shorter video idea - What if Sierra never blew up the plane in world tour?

[@TheGodIvy]

She.... never did tho

[@saltyricee]

@@TheGodIvy yeah at the end of the season she blew up the plane which caused her to get eliminated

[@TheGodIvy]

@@saltyricee your original comment said "crashed the plane" and now your acting like that wasnt written since you edited it

[@saltyricee]

@@TheGodIvy oh I didn’t realise sorry

[@jahzeelvegasalazar3718]

bye Alejandro, lol

[@notdaphantom]

I think right when the monkey is about to give the coin to them, the bear eats it, so the challenge doesn't end so quickly. Ella would still need to sing and she would be eliminated because Chris found out about it, so Max gets saved just like in canon. Just what I think would happen in this What If.

[@lysanderlonshadow8653]

Love the videos, so entertaining

[@vortex_all9055]

honestly topher was one of my favorite characters in pahkitew island

[@HardRblx]

what if amy never return - peace

[@jean-paul1767]

This was really great and pretty interesting, only thing I'd have preferred is Shawn and Sammy being the finalists, and maybe Amy being Sammy's helper and tbh not sure about Shawn bcs Jasmine would be conflicted with helping either of them

[@JakesoontobeJack]

Wait but the reason why Ella was eliminated for singing was because Sugar ratted her out. With Sugar out, how woukd Ella get in trouble? Also I like how Topher and Sammy had their happy ending. Could you write a fan fic of Sammy and Topher on a date after Topher winning?

[@TDWonderer]

uhhhh not really big on writing fanfictions but im sure there's one out there. I failed to explain this in the video because i guess i just forgot but Ella would get caught now because Chef is trying to shoot the contestants based on sound so Chef would hear Ella sing and then relay this back to Chris

[@JakesoontobeJack]

@@TDWonderer I will be honest, I kinda don't like Shy being the villain after Scarlett was eliminated. I also think Sky will try to sportsmanlike no matter what.

[@GoldGamingRblx]

The fact that the video is about Amy not returning and this has nothing to do with her

[@XD-yn6hb]

This is amazing!!!

[@threeguysandagirlinabeachhouse]

Okay loved this and i did guess it what a slay 💪

[@cosplay_anime_e9022]

Total drama if they the team realized Sammy is better then Amy (I love Sammy and happy she gets a happy ending here versus what she got)

[@rEdbrICkmArOOnAUbUrn4975]

I really like this What If! I love how Sky feels more like an anti-hero rather than a hero, as I think it fits better. I also loved the Topher and Sammy dynamic a lot.

[@Totally_dramatic_]

What if Chris never said Ella can’t sing

[@Trippyrockstarr]

Actually someone recently made a videos discussing I forgot the channel name but just type it in it was pretty good

[@albatrossthedragon]

What if Amy didn’t return!… Except during the finale. Haha.

[@derekcervantes2967]

I'm not sure if you take requests, but It would be cool to see world tour if izzy never left

[@floofycupkim1197]

Tbh. If this happens. We would have had a well scripted series

[@shellos31oeste72]

this would have a LOT better than the original

[@shellos31oeste72]

until here 24:19 i really felt it could be canon but in episode 9 Sky finished the drink just a bit after Sugar so I do think Sammy would have done really good like close to win, but Sky would have won it anyway, maybe it's a likely place to do paths here?

[@havikrogers1801]

Originally, Dave actually beats Sky in drinking it first.

[@unu9651]

I really like this rewrite! Good job on giving satisfying conclusions to characters who didn't originally have them, and it's always fun to hear you break down why you think certain things would happen. Spoilers for finale Also Amy coming back for the finale is just so cool thematically

[@somerandomgayguy]

I love this

[@bentleybutidk]

I’m gonna say it……. Topher X Sammy

[@IdkT-ky3mf]

Also wouldn’t Chris not find out about Ella singing because sugars not here anymore and nobody else would tell Chris

[@thebois6651]

Chef would probably tell him

[@dylanjohnson3346]

What if noah was in heathers alliance with lindsay and beth

[@crushcrush403]

Here’s another what if, what if Sammy never pretended to be Amy and actually got voted off

[@GameJack26]

i would absolutely watch a what if on scarlett succeeding and blowing up the island and somehow i feel like you'd be able to write a great storyline for shawn's ghost or something

[@wonyoungsuperfan]

can you do what if harold never let himself get out in world tour?

[@DivineChaos204]

I got an interesting what if! "What if Pahkitew and Revenge are in the same season?" Just remove Leonard, Ella, and Max to keep it even as 24, and combine some episodes together

[@Trippyrockstarr]

They should have just keep skarlet cold and calculating like she could have still been evil but not cringy instead of trying to blow up the island she just a goes a little crazy but not to the point where she wants to kill everyone lol she should have just taken control over the island messed with things then they stop her Chris gets mad and eliminates her

[@TheRebelDog]

This is a very interesting video

[@lisam8831]

What if Sammy never had a twin

[@renn8331]

topher and sammy are actually so cute?? 😭 woah nvm screw u scarlet

[@AestheticAlex]

you should do what if ella didn't sing/get auto eliminated!!

[@FlurryPie0]

Here’s a video idea, what if Izzy and Owen didn’t break up

[@AkadTheFox]

I think Scarlett should not have probably gone crazy in this version. I'm pretty sure her whole evillllll arc was because max annoyed her so much and threw away her island controller. But since he isnt there she doesnt need to show him how to be evil, and would just take immunity instead.

[@havikrogers1801]

She shows through multiple episodes that she is just a crazy person. The best example I have is when she said in a confessional that she made one of her brother's thing attack him, and he's still in therapy, which couldn't be influenced by Max, because he wasn't there. It's definitely dumb that happened, but I think it's more likely it would happen.

[@universecalled3085]

Just wanna say, I very much appreciate you calling Sammy by her name and not Samey.

[@awm8414]

I for one wish this was canon and not for Samey but for Topher ngl

[@Tjfly]

Can you do what if Scarlett never went crazy?

[@Iioiotara]

heres another what if: what if sammy didnt pretend to be amy

[@abelwilliams7140]

subscribing!

[@TDWonderer]

thanks!

[@evidence2839]

what if Katy and Izzy never swapped?

[@iEdit.becauseican]

Every thing is spot on except for Ella’s elimination. The only reason they found out that she sang last time was because sugar told Chris that Ella sang in order to get her eliminated but sugar wasn’t there so…?

[@mydogghost]

Chef was near

[@berry.1uvr]

10:50 But didn’t a writer confirm Sammy likes Topher? And also in their elimination episode, Amy yells out “Topher thinks you’re FAT!” sooo🤷

[@brooknova7573]

Topher winning >>>>>>>>

[@Rias-sl6fq]

I have an idea for another video, what if Ezekiel wasn’t sexist. This would cause Courtney to be eliminated in the first episode of island. It would probably be harder to make this video though because we hardly ever see Ezekiel compete in challenges.

[@lisabasso5766]

This sounds better than the actual show

[@YkeTolsa]

Jasmin for the win'!!!!!!!

[@Migotte]

Pahkitew Island if it was a good season

[@Ebgamer1000]

As a Shawn fan this would make me mad