Teach any dog to DOWN the old-school method

[@adamm5054]

This is the method i use with my dogs. Very effective when you know how to use pressure correctly. Shout out to the old school!

[@ryansalzmann2544]

Love this! It's been so hard to find trainers that use this old school style. We rescued a 4yo German Shepherd female back in January and she is not food motivated hardly at all. Especially when there are distractions like other dogs around. I'd love to see more of these for other commands!

[@zoewang1361]

my resecued 18 months German sheppit has similar problem. she only interested in best beef jerk or fresh meet... And also, I feel she is not sensitive to words. She can sit or down according to my gesture, but has no reaction to words...

[@KathgoKat]

@@zoewang1361 Dogs respond to body language, and hand signals too Words are foreign to them until they make an association to them,You have to mark the behaviour within a second of her doing it, by using a clicker or saying a word like YES then reward her ,,with either food..(,weiners work if you dont have chicken) cheese is good or praise.. but you need to.Clap and be all happy!! to let them know they did good,....eventually you add the word naming the behaviour,,.... .You have to have pateince tho and train her..it takes time but once you get the hang of it...youll be able to teach her so many things GSDs are so smart and eager to please..Thanks so much for rescuing her...Ive been rescuing GSDs from kill shelters in the US for 20 yrs.. You might want to check out McCanns Training they have alot clicker training videos too. but keep watching Shield K9s .These trainers are great for posting these free videos

[@SofiaViviEnDo]

In my experience, I had dogs who respond wonderful to words, others, gesture, and the key is gesture and word at the exact same time. Then, you start giving some orders gesture only, other verbal cue only. I remember, teaching that to my second GS, saved her life. She was walking off leash, she decided to poop while I was crossing the street with her and my other SG, who was her mom. I realized she wasn't at my side when I get to the other end. I turned back, there was a big bus coming and my dog, who ended pooping, was to come straight to me. A lot of noise on that street. I made the gesture to stay, a bus passed, three cars, then I cue come. If she didn't know that, she would have been killed by the bus. I was about 11 y.o. at that time. I started training my dogs in the late 80's, when I was just 10 y.o. So most of my training, was old school training school. They were happy every training session, lots of prays. But I consistently trained them on a quiet street, every day, at the same time of the day. Then moved to repetitions walking on a noisy avenue, full of distractions. Now, With my boxer, I had to learn on more playful approach. He didn't respond well to old school at all. Session had to be shorter, and I used food, toys and a lot of play. Currently, my new GS, he doesn't respond much to food, nor toys, specially, with distractions. So he is better with old school teaching, at least yet. He goes better also with verbal cues rather than gesture cues yet. We still have a lot to work on, as he is almost 2y.o., and has been with me only for 15 days.

[@markfcoble]

Thank you always. I'm jamming on lessons before getting German rottweiler.

[@gracevanroy7213]

God, just so refreshing on KZbin to see such clear communication with the dog. Visually watching this dog learn in the video and going through not one, but many stages of learning in such a short time. Great work man.

[@NicksDogTraining]

This is an excellent tutorial on successive approximation. Also my favorite way to teach a dog to down. Another classic from Haz

[@derrick9653]

I really could have used this video with my first Mal male. No food or toy drive but was always ready to interact and play. Great video!

[@BaconNDCheese]

it still blows my mind every time you release a how to vid on a new dog and you literally teach a command in 10mins. Although not consistent but thats quick

[@KathgoKat]

GREAT VIDEO Haz! EXCELLENT INFORMATION on leash pressure/release and breaking any exercise youre teaching, down into steps, Ive been training GSDs ''OLD SCHOOL ''for almost 50 yrs.....we had the Volhard Method and choke chains and learned hands on. and reading Blanche Saunders Winnifred Stricklands books.. No ecollar or prongs in those days..The average dog can b trained on a flat collar. Most behaviour issues are created by the owners !!!!

[@eunice8116]

Brilliant, I'm old school training 👍🏻

[@gerardopuchetafigueroa4705]

This was the only way for my 12 months old boxer puppy on down command. So, thank you, I really appreciate this kind of videos.

[@mmatrainee]

Hmmm I guess I have a more "old school" approach. Thank you for your information Sir

[@williamnash8592]

I was thinking the same. In my experience heel position dog on L rt leg behind the back and push the dogs back down with your foot or with a lil more.... works quick.

[@mmatrainee]

@@williamnash8592 awesome! I just felt like it I couldn't get a little puppy to understand what I want and to do it for me to please me, I don't need a working breed. Thankfully I have Mr Haz to learn from.

[@bullantoffroad]

Hello from Australia! Can not thank you enough for all your videos, each of them are brilliant! I have a 10month old Mal and I've been using most everything you do with her. We go to training for bite work. Huge thank you!

[@kipikasafrenchie1468]

BEST VIDEO--I prefer “old school” training because I am old!! I need to see you working with a small Frenchie 😉. I am sure you have a lot coming in for training😎

[@jimijames9642]

Thanks Man ! I found you videos just in time to use them to train my pup. He is Alaskan / Golden mix. He defiantly looks like a Husky and acts like one too. So.. it’s been a challenge for me. I always thought I was a fair dog trainer till I met Finn. Your insight into dog behavior has been a great help. Thank You for sharing your knowldge👍🏼

[@jasonward6894]

Currently training my female GSD. Not much food drive, has toy and play drive though. She is responding well to pressure training with a pinch collar.

[@youngsamson2000]

Thanks for this video, all your content is very helpful and greatly appreciated. I hope to maybe see more "old-school" content along with "e-collar training how-tos" in the future because I do like learning these methods and would love to add more to my personal training toolset at home.

[@bettymcconnell1011]

Love to see a happy dog in training

[@jatashiejohnson8468]

This dude is so amazing with these dogs. Learn so much

[@the_blu_gypsy]

I would like you to explain collar placement when training with pressure. Thank you

[@logun24x7]

I learned dog training in the early 70's from a book likely written in the 1940's and translated from German, and to be honest my daughter has taken me back to school since then and I'm thankful because there is no arguing with the results. That said I'm going to show her this, because properly done old school dog training was never about yanking dogs around into submission. Key takeaway ... be gentle .... manhandling a sensitive dog it won't make it tough it will just teach it not to trust you.

[@SofiaViviEnDo]

Me too. Back in the 80, my only resource was two books, written by dog trainers in my country (Argentina). We used to have wonderful dog trainers, and GS too. There was no internet, no nothing back then. Our dogs were happy and we'll trained. I had to learn about positive training with my boxer in 2010, who didn't respond to old approach, and now, I am doing a mix of both methods with my new GS who doesn't responde much yet to food nor toys. It is Wonderful to learn new techniques, but also important, not to discard everything about old ones. There were many important things, in old teaching, that I do not see in the newer approach. For example, not picking up food from anywhere but the dish, nor from hands from strangers (prevents poisoning) and a lot more. I have seen a lot of training in tracking, specially, were the dog is conditioned to pick up food from the floor on the tracks. That is specially dangerous with poisoning! It was a no-no practice in the old school

[@wiIlybobo]

Wow he is beautiful. Great work Haz

[@markdunnam2745]

Absolutely amazing. You literally taught that dog how to lay and stay in 10 minutes. I mean I get it you will have to continue with his training but damn.

[@paulcon8710]

Great video , i watch a few of these and am amazed how many so called dog trainers and self proclaimed dog behavorists , just state the obvious , and don't show and explain ,

[@DESCENDINGDR]

Excellent example of this training, nice pup too...

[@racquettalk6643]

I actually like the foot method more, where the prongs are on the top of his neck and he is in the heel position. then you can drop the leash with the left hand and put your foot on the leash and he will naturally go down. if he doesn't you can pull the leash like a lever and the pressure will get him down. For some reason when I use my hands in the down with my GSD, he gets very sensitive and either mouths the leash or my hands. But whatever works for you.

[@surprisehaircut]

I have a husky sheppard mix who is also not food motivated and more praise motivated. I would LOVE more examples of how to train in situations that involves leading or how to ignore distractions.

[@HailLuzifer]

that's pretty cool, I always wanted to see how old-school training works. thanks!

[@Dirtxbc]

Genetics right. Even amongst working lines, some are more eager to please others more stubborn. All random

[@Clariselol]

I have an english worker cocker spaniel. and I trained her old school, the way my grand dad showed me how he trained his Malinois dogs. Imagine having to rely on a clicker when your out with your dog :D

[@onthespotwithtaalibah983]

Hi. How old should a puppy be to start the training you demonstrated in this video? I grew up around dogs and as a child I owned a German shepherd puppy that was stolen and as an adult I had a German shepherd mix. Now I’m taking a college course on Dog Obedience Trainer/Instructor. My goal: study everything I can to be an effective instructor and trainer. Thank you for your demonstration the old school way, it keeps the dog focused.. Stay healthy happy and safe.

[@1packatak]

Start the moment they come home. I sit on the floor with a puppy and work with them on things like sit and down. I gently guide them as Haz does, but with a flat buckle collar. As they get bigger, I sit on a bench. Then I stand once they get even bigger. Usually by the time they are big enough for me to stand, they can do their sits/downs successfully with just a verbal command. One was already pretty proficient at obedience hand signals by then. I have Rotties. The bench is usually needed by about 4 months. Then I am standing around 6 months. Start teaching them everything as a little pup. Including fun stuff like shake a paw. You can use those things as positive rewards. They are like sponges and just absorb everything.

[@BabyBugBug]

Start right away. The guy in this video mentioned that laying down will be easier with a dog that trusts you so take it slow. In my experience it takes a month or two for a dog to fully warm up to you. Use plenty of petting and hugs and kisses as rewards. Remember, the reward is you, NOT food. Do not train your dog to seek food. Please.

[@jonathanraspaut15]

Really ur method is good nice job from france

[@blancadogs2487]

Do a guide of how to use frustration 💪🏻🐶

[@starsthedog]

THE PLATZ. Great content!

[@thomasshepsky2253]

I will give it a try!! Thanks!!

[@joelbassi3969]

Thats a good way of training a dog the down command.. very nice...

[@Proxy.regisnexx]

Extremely informative, thank you. Will give this a try.

[@anthonycardona1121]

I'd like to see the process of downing a dog in motion. Dropping a dog on verbal cue in a full sprint. I've got the down, the distance, the duration but getting her to drop and not continue to back to my body first on a recall is tricky.

[@wadewilson8583]

Ecollar would make things easier

[@adelgondecuylle6125]

Dog needs to know that she can only leave the command when you say break. When it breaks out, replace the dog to the exact location and begin again. If she follows you on full sprint, you should go 1 or 2 steps back in your training..

[@anthonycardona1121]

@@wadewilson8583 yep, using a mini educator and have conditioned place command, and recall. She does both very well. Down in mid recall is still difficult. She is so conditioned to recall and heel she wants to keep moving foward!

[@joshualuiskubulan9141]

will the dog eventually listen to verbals while slowly fading of leash pressure?

[@1packatak]

Yes

[@stayathomecichlidmom3579]

I'd love information regarding pups that are unfazed by leash pressure. I have a 5 month old Amstaff/Pit Mix, any leash pressure intensifies her gameness. (Non aggressively)

[@Nesmith77]

I can’t tell you how helpful these are. Thank you so much. I’m going to purchase your protection dog online course once I’m done with obedience. Do you recommend obedience until 7-9 months or can you start bite work early even if there are little kids around?

[@DogsWithJag]

Bite work starts from 8 weeks old Then start obedience at 8 months Thanks Jagger Rising S K9

[@milosmilosavljevic1095]

Dude i love ur videos just pls buy a mic

[@humayunkhalid8452]

Need your help, my dog bit my leg yesterday when I stopped him from picking up thing off the ground.How do I stop him he is 2 years old gsd

[@carter1487]

Thank You For This!

[@took-a-load3789]

Actual useful information. Thanks!

[@dogtrainingsuraksha2129]

Thank you🌹, Sir👍🙏

[@Gyppor]

Very interesting! It looks like you have a very good dynamic with the dog and he's having fun. For a dog that isn't food motivated, how long would you wait to introduce pressure with the prong collar? could you start soon after you get the puppy at 8 weeks?

[@bigbossadidoss8678]

Boy, I’m late to this comment but no, generally speaking puppies don’t understand negative reinforcement near as much as an adult dog. I wouldn’t put a prong collar on anything less than an adult dog. You will be plenty strong enough to apply much less pressure that they have a better chance at understanding until they’re a year old. Puppies are infants, they don’t have the understanding nor the seriousness an adult dog does. Gotta be age appropriate with them

[@jenlvjim]

Wow great video

[@Mr83wesley]

Great content 👌

[@JackBurtonPorkChpExp]

When do you decide to use the German commands in lieu of the English version?

[@shootmovecommunicate3322]

Good stuff

[@melissasusan4174]

I didn’t know how to accomplish this. I was like how do I teach a dog to lay down? I pulled my pups arms out from under him, slowly, and he caught on right away.

[@srichards9010]

Can I buy an e-collar from you ?

[@jimgriffin4015]

Good job

[@gerardcarrington8694]

Fantastic!

[@RaymondBotha48]

very good video!

[@himesjon]

What's your name, I can never make it out with shield9k

[@ربيعكنعان-ص3ذ]

I have 2 dogs like that .. thank you

[@Holymartyr-13]

Thanks man

[@jonathanraspaut15]

Normally without leach

[@gregorywillis2770]

😎👍🏾

[@jonathanraspaut15]

This is not really clear

[@francisco88594]

💪💪

[@jonathanraspaut15]

U need to force him

[@skythedogtrainer]

I've never seen a trainer so incompetent yet so willing to share so much 😂

[@BabyBugBug]

You must be the type of “expert” that brings a bag of food with you everywhere to “train” your dog lmao

[@skythedogtrainer]

@@BabyBugBug And you must be the type of "expert" that can't go anywhere without their tools 😂 There's a reason I literally get clients weekly coming from his facility 😂

[@retromodernart4426]

@@skythedogtrainer So, can you say in a paragraph or two what method you use, what principle? Thanks!

[@skythedogtrainer]

@@retromodernart4426 I train dogs with operant conditioning, respondent conditioning, counter conditioning, classical conditioning, errorless learning, free shaping, premack and many other means. These guys only use operant conditioning and they don’t even comprehend it 😂 I receive failed clients from them on a weekly basis and they’re further than an hour from me. That’s says enough 😂

[@retromodernart4426]

@@skythedogtrainer Thanks for taking the time to respond, much appreciated.

[@jmclean12124]

Only way ill even bother training. Everything is a waste of time

[@Slimchancemyguy]

you are right, dont do this. Teach behaviors with slip collar. Common misconception is that praise is pos reinforcement. Not all dogs take praise as some great thing. sure a break of ob and a play session might be nice but how effective is it compared to a food reward. If you have a dog that isnt food motivated, you can try deprivation or find a reward that the pup find valuable

[@Apex_K9]

As a dog trainer I can tell you what he did in this video was spot on and you clearly know nothing about dogs

[@Slimchancemyguy]

@@Apex_K9 lol being a “ dog trainer” means nothing. sure it was spot on for what he was doing maybe.

[@Apex_K9]

@@Slimchancemyguy do you realize the level of logic you just used in your own comment you tried to critique his method and I'm telling you as a trainer there is nothing wrong with his method and worked just fine and would work for 99% of all cases .. so realistically the only thing you trying to sound like is a know-it-all which you failed

[@Slimchancemyguy]

@@Apex_K9 99% of dogs take praise as a reward? no this is not the best way to teach a down. sorry. if it works for u cool.

[@Slimchancemyguy]

@@Apex_K9 def realize the logic. if someone is doing something that is not necessarily the best thing but they are doing it correctly does not mean it is the best option

[@CaptainCopwatch]

this way wont guarantee results in the long run.. prongs are cruel... you said no tools yet use a prong collar...

[@Alpha-up3mo]

u can just use a flat collar or a harness too

[@user-qc5jw1xy5l]

bad technique. old school is old school for a reason

[@juanitobebe]

In a k9 training facility? Yeah I don't think so bud

[@user-qc5jw1xy5l]

@@juanitobebe if you got nothing valuable to contribute just say that straight up