Teacher Dies After Being Tased Six Times in 42 Seconds | Keenan Anderson Case Analysis

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[@darklausal23]

I had a neighbor that was pacing outside, he approached me, and said he had not slept in days and could not calm down, I checked his pulse, he had tachycardia, told him to go to the ER immediately, he did not want to because he done coke, but finally did, they told him that if he had waited any longer he would have died from a heart attack...maybe the combination of the cocaine and tasers did it.

[@kimwhatmatters4085]

Yeah if your on coke you can have a heart attack and police know that they knew he was on a substance or heavily thought he was an a lot of substances don’t go well with a taser and not knowing that persons actual health status it’s dangerous to deploy a taser on someone so deployed that many times is really negligent

[@kathleenmortensen3065]

@@kimwhatmatters4085 what would you have done instead?

[@sadiyasaleh233]

@@kathleenmortensen3065 They could have been able to tackle him and put him in cuffs,even if using force considering he was outnumbered by them. It would be better to be accused of using physical force than homicide.

[@frankpaya690]

Of course it did. You're more likely to have an arrhythmia when you're on a stimulant.

[@jasonwilson4138]

​@@sadiyasaleh233From your response it doesn't seem like you've given any thought to why law enforcement officers carry tasers. 99 times out of a 100 getting compliance out of someone using physical violence will cause the person far more permanent damage then less than lethal. A couple of 200 pound police officers tackling a suspect on concrete is a good way to guarantee permanent injury. If you don't like what you see stop giving the government the responsibility of protecting you.

[@mosizlackm7522]

I’ve worked in an ER for many years. The general public has no idea how hard it can be to restrain someone who’s high on drugs. One time we had a patient come in high as can be and it took over 8 full grown men just to get restraints on him. I’m not defending the police but believe me when I say you have no idea how strong someone can be when they’re on drugs.

[@Catlily5]

Or psychotic.

[@tammylaronde8593]

What you say is true.

[@frankpaya690]

Most people are critiquing things that they have absolutely NO- background- whatsoever in.

[@DarthFurie]

Dude, when my 4 year old nephew was freaking out for an emergency medical procedure it took 4 of us adults to hold him down. When people are panicked they can have HUGE amounts of strength, it's crazy what adrenaline can do

[@Catlily5]

@@frankpaya690 Seems to be one of the main points of the internet.

[@IMDunn-oy9cd]

Important safety tip: Don't use drugs. This tip will eliminate a huge amount of drama and grief in your life.

[@worsethanjoerogan8061]

Never understood the appeal of stimulant drugs like coke anyway.

[@melissabruner1224]

It's incredibly difficult to restrain a grown man in excited delirium. Six officers isn't even enough.

[@mlovmo]

Thank you for injecting some reality here.

[@_RobBanks]

thats because they arent trained well. and have poor hand to hand combat skills. they are trained to rely on and immediately resort on their little toys.

[@ricladouceur6202]

Exited delirium is a made up syndrome that has not scientific basis and is not contained in the Diagnosis and Statistical Manuel of Mental Disorder. The failur here was failing to recognize the mental health crisis, drug induced or not and change their tactics to address his paranoid state. People in crisis don't respond well to commands or pain compliance and that made the use of the taser unnecessary and counter intuitive in this situation. They had him on the ground and at that point needed to slow down.

[@Draven.G]

​@@_RobBanks you clearly dont understand what drugs do

[@ignaciosavi7739]

Or 1 BJJ blue belt

[@nhmooytis7058]

I had a friend, a lawyer, who got into cocaine and it made him extremely paranoid, he decided his neighbor across the street with whom he’d had a friendly relationship was trying to kill him so he’d stay up all night staring out the window so the neighbor couldn’t ‘sneak up on him.’ After a minor traffic stop, he drove away before the police officer could give him a ticket, and ran over her foot. They threw the book at him, he got a jail term and hefty fine. So sad to destroy your life for a recreational drug.

[@urmamasmamasmama]

I'm thinking the cocaine or whatever drug one takes is affecting an underlying mental health issue.

[@barneyronnie]

That's why I stuck with heroin. Used over 33 years, and recently retired from my University teaching position (PhD , mathematical physics). Now that I retired, I decided to get on methadone. Have a Blessed Day!!

[@Christie-EnergyHealing]

@@barneyronnie lol are you having a trip?

[@missyfrank880]

Yep and then we the public are expected to feel bad for them after they develop an addiction that they voluntarily started themselves. I have no sympathy you chose your own consequences by your poor decisions

[@barneyronnie]

@@missyfrank880 I'm a retired professor, and never had any issues due to my addiction. Also, one doesn't 'trip' on heroin. Besides, I'm now on MAT, methadone maintenance. I never considered using heroin a poor decision, nor did I ever ask for sympathy or anything else. Why I began using heroin is a long, complicated story. It certainly isn't for everyone 😉

[@stancexpunks]

Yes! Love that you included body cam footage. I always thought your videos could be so much better if you included pictures/videos of the person/case you’re talking about.

[@reddiver7293]

Agree. And unlike so many KZbin videos that show only a small edited portion of an event where someone is hurt and people get all otraged, this shows the whole story.

[@investigator77]

Go to Thoughts of a Patrol Officer, and search for "Was Keenan Anderson Killed by the LAPD?" Ben is an officer in the Columbia Police in Ohio, and he shows the entire event.

[@smokeskull]

Protecting someone from themselves is a near impossible task on the street

[@stevehartwell1861]

The guy didn't taser himself

[@2Bad4YOUuu]

Could you imagine if we turned police into babysitters? 👶🤣 I mean don't get me wrong, it sounds cute n' all but ...

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@djjorge87 don't you know the police are just meant to let you go if you run someone over than attack someone else in a drug fuelled rampage.

[@brianb7869]

I don't blame the cops. I'm sure they will though and try to politicapayolaize disssss

[@fuzzyfriendsrescuevoluntee3036]

It’s super sad.

[@phyllisarrington7436]

My sister is a parol officer. She and her partner were on their way to make a "home visit." They saw the offender at the end of the driveway. She was a petite woman weighing less than 100 lbs. The woman attacked both parol officers, injuring them both in the struggle. The woman was high on drugs and could not be controlled. It took 5 officers to constrain her. Drugs...!

[@bunnymad5049]

Yeah. People think, "Oh, they should have been able", but it's like a superhuman strength.

[@2Bad4YOUuu]

Zombie Apocalypse

[@braceyourselvesfortruth2492]

One thing to remember when you hear stories of 4 or 5 cops on one perp, is that the cops are working within the bounds of their own training and rules. Their training is not to restrain them at all cost, but to do so without hurting them if possible. I could restrain a 100 lb woman on drugs by myself, I'd just have to let her snap a few of her limbs in the process. Obviously I wouldn't want to do that as a cop, so I might need help.

[@vsenderov]

Drugs, or out of shape untrained police officers who never had one hour of martail arts training?

[@phyllisarrington7436]

They had defensive training. My sister mentioned that they used the high/low technique. Her partner took the offender's upper body, and my sister took the lower body. Their goal was to handcuff the woman, but each time they tried, the offender struggled her hands away. Paula told me, "we never cuff one wrist first without having the other wrist available to cuff, too." She said one cuffed wrist gives the offender a weapon. Paula suffered severely bruised ribs from being kicked. Her partner is 6' and weighs 240 lb. She had bites to her arms and hands and facial bruising from being head butted.

[@avidkites]

I am actually very glad you are covering this. this case has been rather controversial, at least to me, so its refreshing hearing someone talk about it in a very calm and neutral manner

[@LildawgBigbite]

It was calm, yes. But not neutral. When a man dies shortly after being tased 6 times by overaggressive police in less time than it takes to make microwaved popcorn...and a person asks "was it the tasing or something else that killed him? maybe drugs?"..it is quite clear which side of the fence he stands on. When police attack someone and they die you don't get to sit there and speculate if something else like drugs is actually what caused his death and remain "neutral" at the same time. This "Doctor" made himself look very foolish and the opposite of neutral with his moronic takes on this situation

[@whosaidthat9265]

@@LildawgBigbite plenty of drugs increase the probability of you having a cardiac event. That’s common knowledge. Drug use can absolutely be a contributing factor in his passing. Not rocket science

[@teenageapocalypseusa5368]

Also don’t rule out the clot shot. Sometimes all it takes is someone to push you hard and that calamari can get unstuck. Ask the NFL.

[@FrancoB411]

@@LildawgBigbite He died of a cardiac arrest almost five hours later. Tasers don’t do that, drugs do.

[@Koozomec]

I admire the restrain of these officers. This guy, even if he did not deserved to die, was dangerous on the road and very uncooperative. He did not let the officers any other choice than to be tazed or shot.

[@AMM3.]

When I used drugs I was incredibly violent and hostile. When I'm sober I'm beyond peaceful. Its a real factor. Too bad he didn't receive help

[@corning1]

Same. I was a Jekyll and Hyde type drinker. What drugs do to a person you can’t understand unless you’ve lived that life.

[@AMM3.]

@@corning1 congratulations on your lifestyle change. it's funny because I didn't even recognize that drugs, or more likely the lack of drugs turned me into that reactive, violent person... It was only after more than a year of sobriety I realized I hadn't been in a fight in all that time.. and I still thought it might be a coincidence 🤣 several years later, I can finally admit it was probably the drugs lol

[@corning1]

@@AMM3. oh no. It’s still very much here. I’m a non functioning alcoholic. I didn’t think there was anything worse in this world than alcoholism… until a very bad break up that lead to compulsive gambling something I always knew in the back of my kind I was heading for for years. Gambling like that puts alcoholism to shame. Lost everything. Now back at home at 35 with 50k in debt and don’t want to f myself forever to claim bankruptcy so it’ll take me a whole year with tons of overtime to just break even. This is a ruthless life my friend. I had intended a double barrel shotgun to make sure, or jumping off a bridge. However I knew I wouldn’t. I’m just not brave enough. I’m actually have been so devastatingly sick this last week than I think I have ever been. This life is absolutely relentless. I’m so ashamed of myself for getting into this situation when I have always been good with money. Oh well, it is what it is. I hope you can evade the bottle or whatever is your crutch everyday. Like people say and it couldn’t be more true, he’s just outside doing push ups waiting for you. You evade and evade but take your eyes off for a second and BAM down you go. Much love my friend. I hope you make it.

[@barnagotte7297]

@@corning1 Jumping is not brave. Getting better is. I feel for you and pray for you.

[@corning1]

@@barnagotte7297 thank you barna.

[@CJB787]

This is one of those cases that shows that body cams should be used 100% of the time.

[@lalalola4479]

And being tazed 6 times did contribute to his death drugs taze and mental illness I'm shock he was in a hospital when he die what did they do leave him in a room handcuffed and no medical attention till 4 hours later and found him dead put some blame on the hospital

[@eirenmist2301]

@@lalalola4479 Why not put the blame where it actually belongs, on the young man who chose to take the hard drugs? All the medical attention in the world can't prevent the consequences of some of our bad choices! You appear to have an overactive imagination, thinking they left him handcuffed in a hospital room and gave him no medical attention. Making up stuff doesn't help the situation.

[@workhorse7134]

Police body cams have been the best thing to happen so now we can see how much the corrupt media lie about police interactions with predominantly black criminals.

[@cindyabramowicz4346]

In Delaware years ago, there was an incident of a man out of his mind on drugs. A very gentle police officer was trying to calm him down. The guy pulled out a knife and slit the officer's throat. He died. Bottom line - don't do drugs and go easy on the police who are dealing with sometimes erratic people.

[@HeatherHolt]

Tried to find this story but can’t. Do you remember the city or the cops name? Can’t find it anywhere where the man was on drugs and stabbed a police d officer in Delaware.

[@ctr289]

Nobody cares about the lives of the police or the innocent people in the US, they only care about the comfort of criminals and murderers. It's a failed society, where crime is normalized and even applauded

[@ryze1022]

I found it. I tried to post a link to the story but am not able to. Happened at BWI-Marshall airport in 2018. However, the Twitter comments make it appear that the person that died slit their own throat.

[@HeatherHolt]

@@ryze1022 oh wow thank you. I’ve been unable to post links in KZbin comments lately too. I appreciate the info I’ll look into it! 💕

[@chrispycryptic]

Okay.. but if it is clearly a mental health issue like this was, someone trained to deal with mental health should additionally be deployed. He didn't appear to have violent tendencies, and could likely have been dealt with more effectively... the guy looked terrified. Also, if stimulants are potentially a factor, tasers should be off the table period. use pepper spray or kinetic rounds instead. Drugs are a huge problem in this country, and even under the influence 99% of users wont resort to deadly violence. Its pretty disingenuous to point to a tragic, but also fringe case and infer we should 'go easy on them', ya know? Cops are already given a shit ton of power and protection, we need to scrutinize every move they make. Everyone should push for more effective means to protect and serve.

[@kennedyhouse563]

This is really sad all around. Dr. Grande, thank you so much for covering this so calmly and rationally.

[@frankhanson9260]

what would have been the best way to deal with this situation. an erratic suspect who's walking in the middle of the street saying someone is trying to kill him. who should respond? in all situations we send Cops with Guns, Tasers, billy clubs and handcuffs. the outcome is inevitable.

[@kennethbaker5223]

@@frankhanson9260 Who should we send? The Avon lady? lol

[@TheeLosAngelestud]

@@kennethbaker5223 The fire dept.. they have paramedics and they dont have guns

[@nicolejttmom6061]

Thanks as always, for your fair, balanced, articulate and wise information.

[@maevewhite4376]

Wonderful analysis as usual.

[@sarahalderman3126]

😂 definitely… if ignorance was beneficial.

[@Skarbro]

It’s very refreshing to hear an analysis of an incident without emotions being involved. Thank you Dr. Grande.

[@marcberard9173]

In Finland new police officers are trained for 5500 hours. In the USA new police are trained for 600 hours. In Finland you require a university degree to be a cop. In the USA you only need grade 12. US police academies spend far more time on firearms training than on de-escalating a situation - 71 hours against 21, on average, according to a 2013 US Bureau of Justice Statistics report. Most of the training in the US is focused on various types of use of force, primarily the various types of physical force. The communication skills are largely ignored by most police academies. This is why you see officers very rapidly escalating from initial communication to the actual physical use of force, because this is how they train.

[@ryarbrough1195]

Don't use drugs.

[@Based_Proletariat]

Don't be a callous racist.

[@paulheydarian1281]

Sometimes, it's really that simple. Either that, or he was extremely unbalanced. It seems he was role-playing some psychotic episode in his mind.

[@WhatHappeneduhh]

But my doctor prescribed me xanax for my anxiety. Should I stop taking them because you said so?

[@yunggoosbumps215]

Or use them responsibly and have some self-accountability rather than blaming drugs for things you do.

[@lesliewheeler7071]

Love the lack of humanity, compassion in this chat...

[@perfectionnotallowed6093]

The devil is busy. Another senseless death. These drugs are dangerous guys.

[@breathnstop]

It's always amazing to me that for 15 years as a psychiatric nurse I was able to restrain and medicate people like this without killing them. Other countries train their police to save people like this with huge padded shields until they can be sedated or become tired. But in America, there is only one course of action, kill kill kill and control. When will our police have another way of helping people who are mentally ill without killing them with barbaric practices?

[@420noscopesonlylol6]

you are a moron. You could not have restrained this man. 20 bucks you would have pulled out your gun because he was resisting.

[@CMV314]

I'm sorry, but that's a really stupid thing to say. Thousands of people are arrested every year. A fraction of them are killed by the cops, yet you say killing is the only course of action taken.

[@chrissyellem7397]

Back in the 70's and 80's my father worked in law enforcement. I was pretty young but one time he told us about this guy who was on PCP and was like The Hulk! Destroying everything in his path-they couldn't restrain that guy. My dad said he never seen anyone act like before.

[@dredubz5825]

I had a friend who was working on a construction site as a dry waller with a bunch of other guys. Some random dude on PCP came and just started beating the crap out of everyone. He was also like you say, the Hulk. Scary stuff!

[@chrissyellem7397]

@@dredubz5825 Oh wow scary!

[@maxbottaro1]

Bad decisions may lead to bad outcomes

[@Justice_TRUTH_Martyr]

*HOW was thisFreak a Teacher???* *I have QUIT My SUB, cuz of this CLickBate!!!!* *I have BeTTer things to Do, than to be LIED to!!!*

[@mozeeyyy]

sadly true

[@carsonsmith8607]

Yup. He played a stupid game and certainly won a stupid prize. Nothing important was lost here tbh. He most likely would've become a headache for his family and SOCIETY due to his drug addiction.

[@shantelane2553]

@@carsonsmith8607 You’re sick!

[@Dr.DisrespectFan918]

@@carsonsmith8607 nothing wrong with playing a stupid game. He just wasn’t smart enough to beat it

[@BBWahoo]

"They're trying to george floyd me!!" After all that cocaine, you george floy'd yourself cuz.

[@lesliewheeler7071]

Compassion. Try it!

[@BBWahoo]

@@lesliewheeler7071 Got a dealer? 🥸

[@BIGCAM5000]

@@BBWahoo Wheely Wanker and the compassion factory. Unfortunately, plumbers relate to plumbs and i suspect this one is from new New Jersey so he's 'probably' full of shit.

[@chilloften]

I’ve always found it odd that our teachers & public workers are not held accountable to drug testings as are other professionals.

[@michaelperez9966]

Some public workers are drug tested, but teachers aren’t.

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

Unions haven't been a Force for good in something like seven decades

[@PrecociousFriand]

But you don't find it odd that government representatives aren't tested? Selective.

[@Ipetam]

That costs money.

[@chilloften]

@@PrecociousFriand I do. If I’m held to a standard, all need held to it. Not that I even agree with drug testing.

[@justinejustice_league1857]

This has happened to a lot of people, it happened to the comedy Martin Lawrence years ago and he even talked about it during one of his standups. Said it was one of the scariest moments of his life as at least 20 cop cars were out there trying to subdue him and he had no control over his own body. He said he'd smoked weed earlier that but believes it had been laced with something as weed had never done that to him before.

[@brianb7869]

Why does this crap even happen? Really? It could be a big act and he or they or she may even live to tell the tale.

[@TheMariemarie16]

I remember when Martin had that freak out. It was in the news and I thought that Martin went crazy. Actually there was a period of time where he did kinda go thru some things. I didn't know that he said that he smoked laced weed.

[@littlemooshu4171]

could've been he smoked too much or for too long... as beautiful & sweet as mary jane is lol anything in excess isn't good.

[@stephen227]

Spiked grass, my ass.

[@weirdal706]

Lol...

[@witchdr.phantom7089]

The police acted appropriately, end of story.

[@tkenglander6226]

'End of story' to you perhaps. If the case goes to trial,; however, we'll see what happens.

[@witchdr.phantom7089]

@@tkenglander6226 There is zero evidence tasers cause heart attacks and it’s well documented that cocaine does.

[@Angie_bae]

He was on cocaine so teasing him would’ve been death sentence

[@brianeaton9046]

This guy was entrusted with the education of children. Amazing.

[@LINDA-oi4mt]

Many teachers have addiction problems. Many.

[@Nylak-Otter]

The less we pay teachers, the less qualified they become. There's very little incentive for well-educated, well-socialized and genuinely intelligent and caring people to teach in public schools, unless they're independently wealthy and have a passion for teaching.

[@theprotagonist8755]

@@Nylak-Otter depends where you teach. In my district they make bank.

[@Nylak-Otter]

@@theprotagonist8755 Where, out of curiosity? My fiancée has two undergrad degrees and a masters in her field (pursuing a doctorate) and is a high school bio/genetics teacher, and gets paid less than I do for sitting around the house with my dogs all day.

[@ravenblue7805]

And those cops were entrusted with this man’s life once they detained him.. Tragic.

[@Yah_ThatsMe]

“Cocaines a hell of a drug.” - Rick James (RIP)

[@RGale60]

So glad I listened to this. It helped me understand better. Thank you.

[@pedr0_m198]

before the officer arrived the person had tried to flee cause he tried to enter on someone else's car

[@cannedheat300]

We've already established that he was clearly out of his mind and not acting rational.

[@WHITEBOYSICK]

@cannedheat300 voluntary intoxication is not a defense... try again, Johnny Cockern...

[@cannedheat300]

@@WHITEBOYSICK

[@WHITEBOYSICK]

@@cannedheat300 I know 😆

[@cherylbralick7110]

I agreed with you until you started the officers anger got the best of them and they used tazers out of anger. You don't know that. They use lethal force and they're criticized. They use non lethal force and they're criticized. The guy was a danger to himself and others. The policeman's job is to stop them not give therapy sessions. I applaud the police for their handling of this situation. If he hasn't used drugs none of this wouldn't happened.

[@mtut]

Key: Taser is not "non-lethal force." What convinced you otherwise?

[@_MissANGIE]

Cheryl, I totally agree with you!

[@shawnaweesner3759]

Well said, @cherylbralick7110!

[@shawnaweesner3759]

@@mtut They could have shot him!

[@tkenglander6226]

First of all, Dr. Grande merely renders his opinion as a mental health provider, not a lawyer. Second of all, did you hear the part where Dr. Grande said something like, in spite of recognizing that this guy was probably experiencing drug-induced (or mentally-induced) paranoia, the police acted as though he had the ability to follow instructions? They seemed to have no understanding of what was going on with this guy in a way that could lead them to being more patient/careful with the restraining process. Instead, they treated him almost like he was being violent and attacking them, which it doesn't look like he was doing. I don't think anyone expects the police to offer therapy sessions; that's just being dramatic. It does seem as though a better result could have occurred if the police had focused on getting him in handcuffs somehow. We'll never know.

[@theashenfox]

I'm all for placing responsibility where it lies, no matter who that's with. This time I can't really fault the police. He also seemed fine when he was taken away. Electricity is frequently used to start and stop hearts, it's always instant effect. You don't shock a dead person and expect them to wake up 4 hours later, similarly, I find it hard to find a physical correlation to being tased (even excessively) and then having the effect of that happen 4 hours later. I'm not a doctor, but my education and experience tells me this is incredibly unlikely. I'm sure that he took a lot of cocaine, judging by his behavior, and that seems a far more likely reason for cardiac arrest. I'm sorry for the family, but this one's on the victim at least 90%. Thanks for the thoughtful and calm analysis Dr Grande!

[@robertgiles9124]

He chose the drugs...so another suicide. But one that costs the State Millions and we gotta listen to Al Sharpton and his grifting rhetoric.

[@Lina_al_j]

Agreed!

[@lindawells8167]

My thoughts exactly

[@MarcDufresneosorusrex]

what's the point for using cocaine?

[@420noscopesonlylol6]

@@MarcDufresneosorusrex it is fun

[@GenXfrom75]

This guy had ample opportunity to cooperate. 13 times!! Clearly, the drugs are why he's dead.

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

This guy was clearly incredibly unwell, he was absolutely manic and frantic. He seems very dangerous.

[@Justice_TRUTH_Martyr]

*HOW was thisFreak a Teacher???* *I have QUIT My SUB, cuz of this CLickBate!!!!* *I have BeTTer things to Do, than to be LIED to!!!*

[@theprotagonist8755]

He didn't seem so he was

[@Sharpstoned]

You only say he's dangerous because he's black. Anyone having a manic episode should be taken care of not tazed to death you blathering morons.

[@HeatherHolt]

Dangerous? He looks scared as fuck.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

@@HeatherHolt scared people are often the most dangerous, don't forget Anderson ran someone over then attacked someone else in attempt to steal their car.

[@billpope2111]

Your analysis was spot on. I will say his family is not owed a dime.

[@troy3456789]

@12:32 looking at all the evidence available, and all he spoke about. I think it's not really a "disaster" per se. That is a poor word choice when thinking about the loss of Keenan Anderson to society objectively speaking. It's more like "this is a thing that happened" and a warning about the use of these drugs. He was a school teacher, so probably not the kind of person you'd want around your children at all; ever, let alone teaching them anything. Lastly: If there was no wrongful death suit, I'd of been completely shocked 😲

[@CheapsKate77]

@@troy3456789 you would never want a teacher around children? 🤔

[@spacemanspliff7983]

@@CheapsKate77 He is talking about him being on drugs. Duh

[@troy3456789]

@@CheapsKate77 A drug using ideologue? Why are you inquisitive about this? There's no real mystery here. It's basic common sense. "Don't let drug users around children"

[@troy3456789]

@@CheapsKate77 Was that a real question or were you just being silly?

[@andreasrau2161]

Good morning, Dr. Grande! Keenan was clearly on something, but not so high as to make reference to George Floyd. Fortunately, the police had it on tape. But 6 taser applications in less than a minute seems excessive but, as you pointed out, there has been no actual cause of death listed yet. As for his family suing the city for $50 million, that's a common enough occurrence when someone dies while in police custody. In Rochester, New York a similar incident occurred in 2020 involving Daniel Prude. After his death, his family sued the city and settled for $12 million AFTER the police had been found not guilty of any wrongdoing. The lawyers got one third of that. But Keenan's claim that someone was out to kill him became a self-fulfilling prophesy.

[@retriever19golden55]

Daniel Prude's death was also unnecessary. The Rochester police force needs retraining and revamping. In another case an eight-year-old girl was frantic because her parents were apparently fighting...I think her mom called the cops, I'm not sure. The first officer there was trying to calm her down but mom came out and started shouting and swearing at her. It set her off again, and when two other officers showed up, everything escalated. Her mom was screaming at her, and three officers shouting commands and threatening to take her to the police station or use tear gas...they tossed her into the back of the patrol car and gassed her. Eight years old.

[@frankhanson9260]

Police work is a really Tough job. People call the Police for Any situation where someone is out of control or misbehaving or is committing a crime. The cops never know if the person is in their right mind or not. Some Cops are cool and collected and seek to de-escalate the situation. Other Cops get angry and start harshly commanding people get on the ground. All cases are different.

[@fredlebhart1393]

It appears the first for use of teaser didn’t work, the spikes didn’t go through his sweatshirt and make contact. That’s what it says in the police cameras.

[@yeekasoose]

It's a bit misleading to say the police "used a Taser" on Keenan six times. On the initial attempt, the prongs didn't make a good connection, so the instant and complete debilitation effect of the Taser wasn't available. What the officer did after that is called "drive stunning," where electrodes on the Taser itself are applied to a person's body. This causes pain and local muscle spasms, but isn't debilitating. Given Keenan's mental state, that obviously wasn't going to help, but did it kill him four and a half hours later? That seems highly unlikely. I do think the officer with the Taser should receive additional training and possibly discipline, but I would say the lawsuit is entirely meritless.

[@teenageapocalypseusa5368]

This is what happens when you consume too much drugs and too much mainstream media. Bad cocktail. I wonder if there was an underlying mental condition too - he seemed very paranoid.

[@lesliewheeler7071]

Cops didn't have to tase him excessively... Have some compassion!

[@Ineden774]

Sad story, no matter what. Thanks for your explanation.

[@malabuha]

Disturbing. What bothers me even more is that Keenan was a teacher and at the same time a drug user. How those two go together is beyond comprehension. Maybe it was his first time using

[@bebop2523]

He was a teacher in DC public schools, which is one of the worst systems in the country. He probably got into drugs in order to cope. It is soul crushing as a teacher to see awful things going on with your students every single day, and not being able to do a damn thing about it. I left teaching because there are so many horrible parents, but unless they are literally beating their kids, Nothing that they’re doing is actually illegal so you just have to keep watching it happen. It’s soul crushing. I left, but it doesn’t surprise me that someone who stayed and had to deal with that every single day would turn into drugs to cope. He most likely wasn’t high in class, he was on vacation when he died.

[@georginamcallum1324]

@@bebop2523 lollll excused to be a drug addictct

[@bebop2523]

@@georginamcallum1324 it’s not an excuse, it’s just that people so often can’t believe that a teacher would abuse substances, but it’s actually become very common in recent years. They aren’t high in the classroom, they use drugs and alcohol outside of the classroom to medicate for how soul-crushing the job has become. Doesn’t make it OK, but people need to understand that this is becoming a lot more common.

[@georginamcallum1324]

@@bebop2523 stop making excuses for been a drug addict. I am a nurse. Should I do drugs to cope with my stress too? Of course no.

[@Rosemary-op3rz]

Hogwash!! If you’re spineless and weak minded, get help!! Thank God you quit!’

[@desmondclark3193]

Not gonna lie, those cops tried to be patient with him. They asked politely numerous times instead Keenan continued to acted like a Looney Tune.

[@laneyes6759]

you obviously didn't understand the video, Keenan was under the influence and not in his right mind, the police recognized this was a mental health problem, treated it as if it were not one, and used a tazer 6 times in 42 secs when they were 4-1 and could have avoided using it in the first place. it doesn't matter if you're "patient" excessive force is excessive force.

[@billylain7456]

It is obvious that you are clueless.

[@crabofchaos7881]

I know that cocaine and weed likely contributed to paranoia, but seeing a cop as a black man should be horrifying.

[@drd0114]

Have you ever wondered what it would be like to lose your mind, to have paranoid delusions? What if one of your friends or some wierdo slipped something in your drink, and next thing you know you're being drawn on by police officers. How would you feel? 🤷‍♂️

[@Based_Proletariat]

Just like the Capital Building officer tried to be patient with Ashlii Babbitt, now she's a pack 💨💨💨💨 Salute to that officer for protecting that property from that violent MAGAt.

[@katherineparris723]

I've heard a lot of people whining about how he the police killed a high school teacher. Yet I think the real issue here is that a crack head was allowed to be a high school teacher.

[@somehaloguy9372]

You mean a high school teacher that decided to try crack while on vacation on the opposite coast

[@katherineparris723]

@somehaloguy9372 Decent people don't just decide to "try crack" one day. Regardless if it was his first time or 50ths time. The moment you decide to smoke crack you shouldn't be allowed to educate students

[@whateverwhatever4026]

*Dies After Doing WAAAAY TOO MUCH Coke SEVERAL HOURS AFTER Being Tased.... There fixed it for ya.

[@tkenglander6226]

He did coke AFTER being tased?? How do you figure?? LOL!

[@whateverwhatever4026]

@@tkenglander6226 And it needs to be after why??? Lolz Destroying your own argument there... Lolz

[@sebastianriemer1777]

Just realised he was a teacher. Teachers these days are a bit different from the teachers I grew up with.

[@bebop2523]

Teachers these days have to deal with so much worse than the teachers day at 10 to 20 years ago, so many are quitting, and the ones who stay off and turn to substances in order to cope. Doesn’t mean they’re high in the classroom, remember he was on vacation when this happened. He was teacher in DC public schools, which is one of the most dysfunctional and corrupt systems in the country, it wouldn’t surprise me if he started doing drugs on his days off in order to deal with everything.

[@ericfranchi1354]

Everybody seems different nowadays.

[@mlovmo]

Yep.

[@Lina_al_j]

@@bebop2523doing drugs because your job is stressful is a ridiculous excuse. If he was struggling he could have gone to counseling rather than take cocaine! Being a pilot is a stressful job with ridiculous sleeping patterns and imagine if pilots did drugs to “cope”. Lets not make excuses for those who choose to go down that path - we all know very well that drugs dont improve the situation, they only make it worse.

[@caramelbilquees]

It's society it's gone down no one has any integrity anymore. People want to live fast and sin with sex, drugs, stealing, conning etc

[@sketchysketches381]

I think this case reminds me a bit of the case of the paramedics charged with murderer for putting a man face down on a gurney as he went through withdrawal. There's quite a few differences but I don't think either person deserved to die for suffering from substance abuse, the main similarity is just the fact that someone simply not in a rational state of mind was asked to act rationally despite all signs that they couldn't.

[@theprotagonist8755]

So then what should the cops have done? Just let him run?

[@cerealoffender4000]

They should have waited for emt and they should have given him a sedative!

[@Psychedlic916]

And someone, for sure not the police, would think with that many of them they could restrain him. Grab a leg, grab an arm, hold his head my god!! Couldn’t they have thrown a straight jacket on him. This isn’t the first time using a Tazer has killed someone. 🤔 Drugs or not. That device played a major role in his death!

[@pabbischannel8812]

Which was the reason for the taser. It didn't work obviously so then what are they supposed to do? Let him run around and assault people?

[@sketchysketches381]

@@theprotagonist8755 Like the good doctor said they had time and numbers on their side and nothing but options. I've gone through mild psychosis before from lack of sleep and dehydration, I shudder to think that the paramedics called to my home could have mishandled the situation instead of treating it seriously. The more time went on and the more people that arrived to the situation the less the taser became a necessity.

[@lnc-to4ku]

Powerful video, Dr. Grande! The level of thought and intelligence that you put into your content is absolutely incredible!! ♡♡

[@shawnaweesner3759]

Very true!

[@kevinhornbuckle]

You are really easy to fool.

[@Codythefnafnerd]

Boy, I only knew this story from headlines and had no basis for perspective. You have given me something to think about. Again. Thanks.

[@joshuawagner2590]

This is my first exposure to this. I guess that's because I'm not on social media platforms (except for this) and haven't been consuming much news. I'm glad I got exposure to this from Dr. Grande first. Based on the many videos of his that I've watched, he's pretty balanced and works hard to be unbiased. That's helpful, because we all know that mainstream media outlets don't even pretend to be unbiased anymore.

[@lewisdoherty7621]

At one time I wondered the percentage of deaths the medical cause of which was never determined by an autopsy. I figured the coroners would have some statistics which went into a national data base. I could never find one, but I stumbled over an interesting article about categories of people who suffer deaths the cause of which couldn't be determined. A large number of these were those who had used illegal drugs which weren't on them at the time of their death. This guy died four hours after the incident. There are apparently chemical pathways buried in human processes which aren't easily identified and are compromised/altered by drug use and maybe even the substances with which these drugs are cut which cause death but are difficult to detect or are unknown by medicine.

[@bronco5334]

It's also worth considering: when did he take the drugs, and how long does it take for the body to absorb and begin feeling the effects of the drug, as well as how long does it take for the drug to lose effect? There is no drug that takes IMMEDIATE effect; the body has to absorb it first; this can take minutes to hours to reach full effect, depending on the drug. Caffeine, for example, doesn't reach full effect until 45 minutes after consumption, and takes some 4 hours to lose half it's effectiveness.

[@J0SHUAKANE]

95% of bodies are never autopsied. Autopsy reports arent meant to be summarized in 1 line, you are supposed to have deep comprehensive knowledge & draw your conclusions from the entire examination report. If a person dies from being dehydrated due to elevated drug levels in their system, did they die of an overdose or dehydration? Same with cardiac arrest. To say a cause of death "couldn't be determined" is more like saying "too much or not enough to report on."

[@lewisdoherty7621]

@@J0SHUAKANE I realize that. Most causes tend to be obvious or from just old age. I wanted to focus on those which possibly otherwise healthy people die and they don't know. Even if there is no indication of foul play, there is a need to know because the coroner has an obligation to warn the family they might have a hidden genetic disorder or to determine if there is something dangerous in the environment that the public health people need to address.

[@richardshelton1301]

The police should not (indeed they shouldn't be allowed to) permit a psychotic person to run around putting citizens in danger, nor should they get into a physical struggle with such a person possibly giving that person a chance to get their hands on a weapon. Mentally ill or not, when someone is a danger to others he forfeits his own life. He brought this on himself.

[@WhosAfraidofErikNordingII]

Totally agree!

[@minnietrout814]

I agree. And he had taken a mega amount of cocaine, too. I’m sure that contributed to his death.

[@Catlily5]

In my city they have cops who are trained to deal with mentally ill people. They do a much better job than the regular police. Always ask for the CIT team if you call for a mental health emergency. Maybe your city will have it also. It might save the mentally ill person's life.

[@tkenglander6226]

Wow, no empathy here. 😞

[@GorVala]

What can we learn here. Can't handle your drugs, don't get high. Coke was THE reason for insane behavior.

[@oliverlaw02]

Sounds like he was having a Kanye West psychotic episode.

[@sandilou2U]

You have impressed me once again with your ability to explain a complex situation clearly and fairly. The only way we will be to begin to bring a resolution to police using excessive force is to discuss it without bias.

[@ZYX84]

This is an excellent post. Very respectful and you are 100% right. thank you I needed to read something positive.🌱✨

[@frankpaya690]

The thing is most people's beliefs about anything( including whether or not there's a pattern of excessive force by police ) is not based on that individuals experience or research, it's based purely on what they've been hearing repeatedly expressed around them. So More individuals are merely passing along,( repeating)the gossip & innuendo.

[@mousesoup5169]

And yet we give the cartels carte blanche to carry them over the border!

[@papepcool]

As someone who has experienced drug induced psychosis, It's a real and hellacious state to be in. The police could have a little more sympathy and education when it comes to people who are obviously having a psychotic break.

[@Catlily5]

In my city we have cops that are called the CIT team. It stands for Crisis Intervention Team. They are specially trained to deal with mentally ill and high people. They are much better than the regular police at handling crisis situations. Always ask the 911 operator to send them if drugs or mental illness is involved. It could save a life. I hope your city has this service.

[@shawnaweesner3759]

@@Catlily5 This is good to know. Thank you. It’s the first time I’ve heard of them.

[@barnagotte7297]

The first cop had all the restraint in the world.

[@Catlily5]

@@shawnaweesner3759 I hope they have them where you live.

[@SedatKPunkt]

I'm convinced by your analysis. But I just want to add something from things I had personally experienced with people who have developed a persecution mania and paranoia which always sparked when they took cocaine. Everybody I knew who behaved like that had the form of consume in common. Those who were consuming cocaine intravenously were nearly always paranoid. The remarkable thing was that they had these paranoia even though they knew that it's not real…! But they explained it to me the following way: Despite the rational awareness of the paranoia not being real it still felt overwhelmingly real. That feeling was so convincing and rational thoughts didn't help at all. Examples: They were sneaking and tip-toeing in their apartment because they were convinced that the cops will show up every second and they were afraid that they wouldn't hear their steps outside. They always put their ears on the door and "sshhht" all the time at me. When telling them that ther are no cops and they won't also show up they answered "We know". But they couldn't fight and resist that inner feeling telling them "Did you hear that?"…"What was that"…"They're are coming" etc.

[@j.jwhitty5861]

I guess the question is how much did he contribute to his own death 50, 80, 90%, either which way it's a sad state of affairs.

[@cottontails9003]

Brilliant analysis as always. Thank you Dr Grande

[@zenawarrior7442]

Hi friend. Sending a hug to you & yours🌻⚘️🧸 💚💚🧡🧡. Dr G always does a good job.

[@cottontails9003]

@@zenawarrior7442 Thank you my friend. How are you and your mum? It's been a tough day we went and picked out a head stone for our daughter with couple changes. I didn't realize how tough that could be. Love and hugs too you both ❤💙💔💔💔

[@jhoughjr1]

Don’t see TEACHERS that high often.

[@Catlily5]

More than we know probably.

[@chrissyellem7397]

They're usually alcoholics.

[@Catlily5]

Teachers do have a higher rate of alcoholism than most professionals.

[@johanvanschouwenburg9459]

Police was exceptionally nice with this dude. He was a drug crazed felon who resisted arrest and died of drug related symptoms. Period. PS: I can't believe this guy was a teacher.

[@anon7374]

Wow this was a great and balanced reaction! I love how you balanced what the police could do better with how the victim could have been more accountable for his actions. It is a hard and delicate line to navigate. While I wish this didn't have to be the outcome and my heart breaks for this person and their loved ones, it would be irresponsible to put none of the onus on him. We all make mistakes and we should learn from each other's mistakes. I hope he is in heaven and his loved ones will find peace.

[@dissidentfairy4264]

Sad story! I agree with your assessment of Keenan and the police. I also feel Keenan was torn between cooperation and fleeing. He no doubt rationalized that he would be tested for drugs and it would jeopardize his employment as a teacher, could completely ruin his career. So in his drug induced mind he no doubt felt his only option was to run.

[@Solid_Snake99]

I'm definitely in favour of the police in this case. They did everything right

[@tkenglander6226]

If the case goes to trial, we'll find that out. They could have acted within the bounds of protocol or acted outside of that protocol.

[@JoseCastillo-cr3gh]

They want $50 million for him overdosing on drugs? Why not help your family members instead of waiting till they are dead looking for a pay out.

[@brentnearhood8874]

Your title makes it sound like the person died from being tased six times. Is that what the autopsy report said?

[@lisztresurrected9438]

There's a saying. Birdshot as a warning, buckshot for normal people, slugs for crack heads. Now, bad saying I know, but there's a lot of truth to it. People on drugs are unreasonably strong and unreasonably hard to put down with lethal means, let alone non lethal. I sincerely don't believe 3 officers would be enough for a grown man of reasonable fitness on drugs.

[@GangsterFrankensteinComputer]

I remember Andy McNab talking about how it was important to shoot people in the head in CQB as some people on drugs basically fight until they're completely dead.

[@lisztresurrected9438]

@@GangsterFrankensteinComputer It's also why magdumping is a thing. It sucks and the optics are horrible, but that's the practical outcome

[@MEL2theJ]

Whew! This one had me teetering back and forth. Thank you for the clarity that you provide through your analysis Dr. Grande 🙏

[@hatuletoh]

It doesn't matter if you're on drugs, having a mental health episode, or (as I can personally attest), you simply couldn't hear something the police said because you're standing on a busy, noisy street. Anything less than immediate, submissive compliance = willful refusal to comply, and justifies the forcing of compliance.

[@lks6248]

Sad as this case is, it shouldn’t be treated as a big lottery win for anybody….

[@presto709]

What precisely do studies say about how many tasers can (relatively) safely be applied in what period of time? What specifically are the police taught? If the officer violated protocol they would be at fault. If they followed protocol but that protocol did not conform to what studies showed the police agency would be at fault, not the officers.

[@tkenglander6226]

Good legal points!!

[@bronco5334]

The man did not die from being tased. He was still conscious and alert all the way to the hospital, and died at the hospital of drug overdose. There is no injury mechanism by which a taser can kill someone many hours after the tasing has stopped; if the taser were to "stop his heart", it would have done so while he was tased, not four hours later at the hospital. He died of drug overdose. He just happened to choose to engage in a physical struggle with the police before the overdose killed him.

[@py_a_thon]

Resisting arrest without assault against a human officer of the state occuring is NOT violence. That is an important distinction imo. Resisting arrest may be illegal, and it may be stupid...but it is not violent by default. I do not know if the process of this individual resisting arrest resulted in assault. I am just pointing out the distinction.

[@randompetsandnuns]

Thank you for this video, Dr. Grande. I appreciate that you included some footage of the body camera recording. ✌🏻💜😇

[@JoannaEve]

Brilliant analysis as always Dr G 👏

[@MrThinking4myself]

What a stupid thing to say. None of the officers gave any indication that they felt disrespected. They needed to restrain him, he was fighting them. He was warned that he would be tased if he didn't comply. If it was an emotional response by the officer, they didn't have to issue a warning. There was no other way to restrain him. Your projections of thoughts you wish the officers had have no foundation. They did call him names, didn't cuss at him, and they allowed him the option to avoid being tased.

[@caymanchristopher7014]

This guy was a teacher like I am a mechanic because I change my own oil.

[@loudtim265]

In my daze I’ve seen people smoke a hit of crack and strip off half their clothes and run out of the house and down the street. It just hits some people like you wouldn’t believe.

[@KeepinItReal632]

Thank you for saying the officers got angry when he didn’t comply as if he was disrespecting them. That right there is the problem. I know people are saying the cops were patient and asked him calmly and he wouldn’t comply, but the problem is, he couldn’t comply because he was having a psychotic break. Brought on by drugs or made worse by drugs, either way, they knew he was not able to comply. The police have the right to restrain him, but once they feel disrespected and get angry, they began to treat a person like an object and no longer like a fellow human. And that’s the problem in these cases. If they had empathy and compassion, they would handle the situation differently and maybe, just maybe, less people would die.

[@brentnearhood8874]

So. are you signing up to be a police office? You sound like empathy and compassion solves all problems!

[@ravenblue7805]

Well said!!

[@ravenblue7805]

@@brentnearhood8874 No, APPROPRIATE TRAINING is a requirement for an improved outcome here. These cops signed up for the job, and if their expectation was that they’d be dealing with logical, immediate compliance from those who are influenced by street drugs or suffering a mental health crisis, they’re the ones who are in the wrong.

[@tkenglander6226]

Great points, agree!!

[@brentnearhood8874]

@@ravenblue7805 I can see you have never dealt with someone on drug who wants to kill you.

[@beanindividual4000]

Respect to this person's analysis of such heavy situations.

[@investigator77]

Dr. Grande I'm disappointed in your assessment. That family is ridiculous if they think he was worth $50 million! He was a school teacher who took drugs. He's not Elon Musk! You need to watch the breakdown of the body cameras, done on the channel Thoughts of a Patrol Officer, titled "Was Keenan Anderson Killed by the LAPD?" Ben is an officer in the Columbia Police in Ohio, and he shows the entire event. Keenan didn't die until 4 hours after he arrived at the hospital, so I doubt it was just the taser that killed him. The first officer on the motorcycle, sat on the corner with Keenan for 7 minutes until another officer arrived to back him up. 7 minutes would be an eternity if you have someone who's high, dangerous, and unpredictable, and he kept on saying crazy things. The cop was just trying to keep him cool, and out of the road. If the cops had let him run off down the road and he got hit by a car and killed, everyone would be screaming about how the cops didn't save him from himself. They don't want to be laying in the roadway, in traffic, trying to detain this guy, so NO, they didn't have time on their side. All it would take would be one moron in the back of the traffic to come flying up the lane, into the last car, and they could all be pushed forward and kill or injure all of those police officers, as well as Keenan. I'm really disappointed in you making your analysis without doing your research. Police can never win, no matter what they do.

[@CHARIOTangler]

If they just didn't resist in most of these cases, they wouldn't have lost their lives. It really is that simple. The responsibility for the escalation and what happened is on them, not law enforcement.

[@mlovmo]

Thank you.

[@benbees7681]

Love your videos. Thank you doc.

[@badworse]

And he thought "getting fried" meant taking cocaine!

[@Chaerlette]

Jesus 😂

[@robertasirgutz8800]

The worst, most dangerous job in existence. This is clearly an incident that was handled properly, but with tragic results.

[@slickinsider101]

He was supposed to be immediately handcuffed when he surrendered on the sidewalk. He had fled the scene of an accident. The officer completely failed at being a police officer.

[@WhosAfraidofErikNordingII]

The eternal victim ….

[@tuckercarlsonforpresident5754]

Even a hard core cop Hater like you, Dr Grande, has to admit this was a righteous kill.

[@alfredogonzalez3421]

It's feel like cops were very close to getting this one right. It's like they had the training took the class and said to themselves well we know we are supposed to treat people with mental crisis, autism and drug induced mental crisis but stop midway and say we know this but can't remember what we were trained to do. Then retreat to there old tactics to escalate and dominate with deadly force.

[@shamudogsmith1751]

This wasn't a mental health related situation it was a drug related situation. I worked in a medical facility and have seen a seemingly frail 71 year old woman become so violent it took 6 police officers to subdue her and get her into our clinic. He knew when he took drugs what the risks were, the fact he was a nicely spoken middle class teacher doesn't make him any different from any other violent drug user, neither does the colour of his skin. My sympathy lies entirely with the people he put a risk and crashed into while driving on drugs and the Uber driver he tried to hijack. The force the police used wasn't excessive but his drug taking obviously was. As for suing? Only in the US could the family of a drugged up violent man, who had already caused an accident, committed a crime and then refused to follow lawful instructions given to him by Police feel they should be compensated because of his behaviour and skin colour 🙄

[@BlackWingedSeraphX]

He didn't comply and got himself killed.

[@fragrancememoir2350]

I would have to see all of the video footage available.. and talk to all the officers and all witnesses before I could possibly have any opinion about this situation at all. .. that a side, this is another sad reminder of how drugs/substance abuse k*lls and wreaks havoc. ☹️

[@f8thless1]

John DuPont would pace around his mansion all night high on coke, was convinced there were things in the walls and tunnels under his front yard and eventually shot his only friend for absolutely no reason.

[@katiebunny3396]

You can't respond rationally if you are on substances and if you know they are on something that can affect their heart a taser should not be used 6 times!! I feel bad for the family seeing the body cam video.

[@elizabethwarman9028]

Good evening Dr Grande, excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos.

[@AlphaMom55]

This is so, so sad.

[@MrFinster53]

I understand the stance you take on the taser deployment, but I don't think it's quite fair to say it was excessive just because he was suffering from a drug induced mental event. Having already crashed his vehicle and trying to carjack another one, it was clear he was a danger to himself and others. Them recognizing the mental health event, but still needing to restrain by way of taser was fine, in my opinion, due to the fact he kept running off and not listening to commands. People on drugs can be extremely hard to restrain when they don't want to be restrained. Also, the prongs didn't make good connection to seize the body, so they used the alternative method which like the old school stun guns that you press against someone. From what I've heard, that doesn't cause the body to lock up, it really just hurts. I still have no idea if that method had anything to do with his death, but I'm almost positive the cocaine did. It's an unfortunate situation, but it's really sad that it's trying to be used as a political chess piece as another act of police brutality.

[@juleslincredule]

Here's the way EVERYBODY should act with policeman: COMPLY. Then... if you need to... COMPLAIN. It's an easy and very safe trick. If you have nothing to reproach yourself: COMPLY. Then... if needed... COMPLAIN. Remember this: 1) Policeman don't want to lose their job so they won't be "hard on you" if you COMPLY (follow their orders). 2) They want to verify your identity and your state of mind. Then... they will let you go if everything is fine. 3) Policeman job is to ensure that the neighbourhood you live in is secure. They need to talk to people. 4) COMPLY: Don't fight with them. Don't run away from them. Please. Read that point again. Several times. One more time: " COMPLY with the policeman and.. after the talking... if needed... COMPLAIN". With all my love.

[@davidmunk2036]

Your analysis of this incident is biased in that the body cam evidence clearly states that the taser prongs never took hold, never penetrated the skin, yet you continue to say he was tased six times in however many seconds. You also don't mention that the officers had him move off of his stomach and sit up so he could breathe. Force was in no way excessive because he wasn't tasered six times. Had the first taser worked, the officer wouldn't have had to make further attempts. What did bug me, but was never mentioned was how the traffic continued flowing just feet away from the scene, causing the bigger threat than the taser.

[@gobblegobble7]

Don’t do drugs, kids

[@kartyl1wielki]

Guy brought it on himself. He had more than enough chances to comply and just stop moving.

[@antman6707]

An important distinction is that the taser was deployed once. It's a single shot taser but it can still be pressed against someone's skin and drive stunned. This causes pain but doesn't deliver electricity under the skin to lock muscles like shooting the probes does (assuming it works ofc)

[@jaqueitch]

As Nancy Reagan said, "Say no to drugs"