Team Russian Sambo vs. Team Brazilian Jiu-jitsu 3 of 4

[@TheMrPyatka]

How can you set up a fight between two different fighting techniques, while you not allowed one of technique to do what it actually does. No slam? For real?

[@jimmyjam700]

TheMrPyatka so true man. no slamming is totaly a jujitsu cop out.

[@hansolo1935]

BJJ alone is meant for the mat not real combat. This is ridiculous

[@bubblex1jhewt130]

Jujitsu is a gay sport. Real men don't need to wrap their legs around and tie each other up with cloth.

[@MrWARHAMMER68]

I am not surprised . Even the founders of Brazilian Jujitsu were some bitched out cowards . The Gracies always rigged the rules and back home the founder and his brothers would gang jump and cripple the wrestler who defeated him in a legitimate match.

[@dominicanrepublic2549]

@@Rico702Vegas demmm right Sr . My respect to you .thank you

[@LibertyJefferson]

The first fight is why I've always made it a point to not rely to heavily on off the back submissions and never do jumping guard pulls. It helps keep me in a true hand to hand combat frame of mind.

[@danielnidan]

beautiful example of Judo's Daki-Age which unfortunately is now illegal in comp Judo. an effective defense against a fighter who just pulls guard,,, especially on a hard surface

[@Therius]

this video changed my whole bjj game to takedowns and top game now..

[@АтаманКудеяр]

Самбист съел бжжиста

[@christiangerhardt2408]

0:45 If it were a street fight BJJ just lost.

[@theendarionex]

in sambo this takedown its legal

[@carloschaves2437]

***** it never really prospered on the streets. in fact, if you bring anything that's not boxe or judo to a brawl, you're gonna end up killed, like half the martial artists who tried to fend off against thiefs and such

[@carloschaves2437]

stop kidding me, on the ghettos you have guns and knives, no one fights anymore, guns are cheapers than food. so yes, BJJ is useless, you're not fighting on a soft spot, it's concrete or dirt. BJJ seems amazing on the UFC but in a real fight, wrestling and BJJ are helpless. that's why martial artits despise Krav Maga, it's not really a martial art, but it's a military system that can actually save your life

[@graciederangementsyndrome3669]

Carlos Chaves Stop buying into the krav marketing hype. Krav is a marketing machine that uses brainwashing propaganda and scare tactics to lure people in. The "fact" that it's a military system doesn't mean shit since most martial arts can trace their roots to military application and martial arts are only invested about 5% of the time in training. BTW the US military implemented BJJ starting in the mid-90s since the military was "watching too much UFC." So look who's talking

[@carloschaves2437]

I'm not even american. also, source. BJJ is just a fad that'll go away soon

[@thecsmunitediscool]

Those bjj guys seem like amatuers, i havent heard of any of them.

[@fieryrocket3555]

0:45 Holy fuck!! What a slam!! Imagine it was concrete!!

[@andyp3834]

What ? loser wins? WTF? glad I am not part of this school ;-)

[@joicemar.s.m4835]

This is not an anything goes. There are techniques that are forbidden because they are mustaches! In Jiu-Jitsu there are several forbidden techniques that cannot be used either because they can kill a person. What the guy used was a forbidden technique in any competition.

[@leopurpleman]

the slam has destroyed the triangle choke moves..

[@joicemar.s.m4835]

Used a forbidden technique. If it were anything else the other guy would also use forbidden techniques. They are forbidden because they can kill! And a competition was not meant to kill.

[@Amoicavalli]

Im just glad to see some intelligent comments about martial arts. Finally.

[@lawnshark19]

2nd guy was wanting to get slammed so he could get the win

[@WolframtheBlessed3499]

The BJJ guys are getting their assess handed to them BIG TIME.

[@JHMninja89]

Lol at the red @~5:00. He knew he couldn't use the daki age so he just walked out. Smart man.

[@cjichida8174]

4:47 Smart guy He knew it was over in that closed guard

[@Gwisss]

I shall make this clear for everyone who is stuck on this "Versus" confusion... This is NOT "Russian Sambo vs. Brazilian Jiu-jitsu" but a sport which has fully separate rules from Sambo and BJJ, therefore, you might calls this Sambo BJJ. As soon as a Martial Art changes the rules of it's engagement, then the Martial Art also changes it's practice. Example, you cannot say "Tenis vs Hockey" when the match has the rules of both, that would be a different sport.

[@dgroh]

Who gave those guys the purple belt?

[@darylc2799]

That slam at :40 was terribly awesome...imagine that on concrete...

[@Idontwantahandle6669]

Veterans Elite yup, bjj neutralized.

[@artemaso]

That is crap, this is where I loose respect for bjj, when they slam you, you win hahahaha

[@Axel_Doing_Stuff]

Definitely. That slam was killer, haha

[@TheQwaggs]

I agree good point on the Machado's. From a fighting stand point though Bjj seems crazy. So much emphasis on the ground game but yet they lack the tools to take it there.

[@yoursola]

Was that Oleg Taktarov?

[@franciscoreatas11]

MY Sensei told me that if someone pulls guard, "teak his neck and slam him". You will be disqualified, will be kicked out from the tournament, but he will go home with a concussion."

[@rimidalvetarak]

It is nice to see the good old brute strength still have place in today's awfully technical world of Martial Art.

[@mahatma1877]

Pues no dejan que use su zambo. El zambo eh visto que es más en derribar como estilo lucha.

[@SuperDUDERIKI]

Its a legitimate escape,banning the option to slam to escape a submission is absurd.

[@vicenteballesteros188]

creo que en la historia de las mma hay mas campeones mundiales especialistas en bjj que de sambo porque esta mas difundido. sin embargo los dos son lo mejor de lo mejor.dicho esto habra mejores y peores exponentes en cada disciplina. pero las dos disciplinas rayan a gran altura.

[@DirektorMK]

Well, daki age isn't removed from judo competition entirely. You are allowed to lift your opponent, but you are not allowed to slam him. Instead, when you lift your opponent fight stops and restarts in standing potion. It's pretty clear why. If you can lift someone, you can slam them, so there's no need to injure them by finishing the slam. If BJJ guys don't want to be slammed, but want a more realistic combat rules, they could implement this competition rule.

[@romeosantiago9671]

These fights have been designed to give BJJ the advantage because many Sambo moves are banned in these types of competitions

[@nemdenemam9753]

wait, so its a legit jiu jitsu technique to wrap your legs around a standing opponent and the rule system defends you from the obvious defense of slamming you to the ground? I thought the point of Jiu Jitsu was to teach a street viable martial art

[@kevinjohnson6549]

Yeah it’s a powerful system but it ain’t perfect

[@magamedgeydarov1675]

Самбист, всё сделал правильно, поднял и бросил! Называешь себя борцом, вставай и борись, нечего на жопе ползать.

[@uralaikido]

About first fight: I had a same problem in one fight. its organization problems. Before the fight managers of competition must to explain all rules to fighters correctly.

[@76guessagain]

AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT NOTICED OLEG...A FORMER UFC CHAMPION

[@kibbee5014]

+76guessagain I noticed that dude too, where'd he come from, was he a coach there?

[@pcjudosambo]

@m2orrego Since you want to bring Fedor into this, take a look at how many BJJ black belts & specialists he owned and never got submitted in his career. He beat Nog twice, and Nog's BJJ is ranked on the same level as Werdums. Fedor simply made a fetal mistake, which he will never make again. BJJ is good but it's not a all-around martial art.... the whole thing of "pulling guard" is the biggest joke in martial arts. Try pulling guard in a street fight, you end up slammed or kicked in the face.

[@jancofive]

yeah i agree it would just make too much sense to allow an easy counter to so many techniques. if they did allow it, how would we be able to circle jerk in competitions specifically designed to favor BJJ. God forbid that some one find out BJJ isn't the all encompassing master style that kills everyone. P.S. so you don't get too butt hurt, i'm coming from an unbiased place. i actually practice BJJ but i don't agree with a lot of the things that happen with the style.

[@andrewferris4539]

Pulled guard, got slammed and cried to the judge, standard BJJ strategy.

[@dirkplankchest1796]

They allowed a slam in the last match!

[@bolehland123]

why bjj always liked to holding and let the leg off ground , didn't it safe to him?

[@TheQwaggs]

I am currently a purple belt in Bjj and also just got shodan in Judo(1st degree black belt)! I'm not saying the guard doesn't work. If someone punches u in the face or hits a double leg takedown and puts u on your back then the guard is a good option. But if your plan is 2 get a guy 2 the ground by jumping 2 your back (while standing over concrete mind you) u will probably get yourself hurt. With the back of your head on the ground + gravity a persons punching power is nearly doubled.not good

[@rimidalvetarak]

Why boo? I think that was excellent. it is such a shame they do not make this competition on concrete with some raised areas.

[@vasiapupkin5754]

Не понял, с куяли в борьбе дисквалифицируют за броски!?

[@user-rk9ev9mq3x]

Пох на судей)) Чья жопа на канвасе осталась - ту и "полюбили")))

[@simpletaste]

i just can't trust a ref that wears jeans

[@ValmarClarke]

shows how affective a throw can be

[@worldDuck7]

i have been doing bjj for a little while and i gotta say, i really hate it when at the start of a match or even practice people just immeadiatly roll to their back and expect their opponent to walk over and try to pass their guard. i get it that it's a great place for them to be in but theres no way that will work in any place but a mat with rules.

[@TheDeathTriangle]

@Voodoofreak35 not really , my teammate , was holding a standing guillotine he got thrown by a freakin suplex , it hit him REALLY hard as he's a 230 pounds fighter (dont ask me how the other guy threw him) and he still got up , and continued with the submission , and won in the end .... in the end , it all depends on the fighter ...

[@lawnshark19]

why so many BJJ apologist? I mean Kazushi Judo/wrestler destroyed the whole family. When BJJ was wining in the old ufc they had there Gi on. Fighting off your back in real fight on concrete isnt a good idea

[@LaconiaBJJ]

where are the bjj black belts?

[@drseth00789]

perhaps you're not getting it. I could care less whether slams are or aren't allowed. that's not the issue here. there was a set of rules, and he broke them to avoid losing like a man while maintaining his pride. it is not a legitimate escape if the rules that both competitors agreed to describe as illegitimate.

[@m.s.nicotdiinc.7645]

Keep in mind that traditional jiu-jitsu wasn't designed for street fights. Although there is a style of jiu-jitsu commited to resolve that kind of brutal conflict, it's completely diferent from the one taught in most jiu-jitsu gyms. Rener Gracie and his brother did a video adressing just that. "Well, but those jiu-jitsu fighters knew that they were going to match an opponent who'd use a more ruthless approach than the one they're accostumed with. How come that guy didn't see that slam comming? Shouldn't he know how to prevent that?" I'm pretty sure that every fighter there got acquainted with all the rules, including the forbbiden submission, transitions and so forth... That being said, by the time the Sambo fighter brought his opponent upwards, the BJJ fighter wasn't at all expecting such a turn of events, knowing that a slam on the ground was prohibited. So much so that the referee interfered the fight and declared the Russian's stunned opponent the victorious, right after his relentless move. "But why didn't he interfered when the man was already up in the air? Wouldn't that alone be a hint of what would happen shortly after?" Not really... That also happens in jiu-jitsu matches. It's usually a way to frustrate an overpowered closed guard fighter, I suppose. You can also see lots of BJJ fighter jumping and locking his guard around the opponent's waist. Check the whole video, you'll see what I'm talking about.

[@dirkplankchest1796]

47Secs in why bjj competitions should allow slams, so guys know how to deal

[@MysticGizmos]

I think that the point is that since it is illegal, you wouldn't be expecting to have to prepare to be slammed.

[@pcjudosambo]

@EvilGblackplague I agree with you on the part the BJJ players don't do well in Judo because in Judo it's easier to lose than in BJJ (throw, pin, submission, points like yuko, etc) in BJJ you only lose by submission or points. A judoka has MORE of a chance to win in BJJ then BJJ in Judo. A judoka may not be at the highest level of submissions for a BJJ comp BUT a judoka is good with throws, pins and avoiding submissions which can be used for stalling. That's why wrestlers like Kerr win ADCC.

[@uchimataleao]

@Voodoofreak35 You do understand that slams were illegal for this tournament? Either player could have easily punched the other in the face knocking them out, but don't because its against the rules and the other player consequently does not defend against such techniques.

[@alberto60]

I say "CATCH AS CATCH CAN RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[@kaioalves4811]

Ele foi bobo tinha que ter feito um gancho com a mão na perna . Se fosse na rua era adeus

[@SuperDUDERIKI]

Daki Age is a move recognized by the Kodokan,but it is however banned from use in Judo competition as well.But regarding all these "game changing" rules submission wrestling competitions have it should be legal. These things depict real life self defense,most of the guys who talk about gouging eyes,biting nuts and pulling guns on their attackers wouldn't even think about resorting to it in a real situation.

[@hayleysfinest]

Tournament rules. If you want to see slamming or eye gouging you should try and find underground fights.

[@BobBelson]

Old Gracie Jiu Jitsu matches were anything goes. Over time, slams were not allowed- Sport BJJ begins.. I was taught to ALWAYS open guard, and hook the leg with an arm ;or for a sweep so that slam would never happen . Spots are sports. This match represents that. Old GJJ guys laos did much more transition to ground things than these days. But al lot of that has to do with liability laws. Moves likeTwisting flying arm locks can be super dangerous if the guy doesn't tap out instantly.

[@TS0G0]

In real life situation Brazilian JiuJitsu is very bad technique! You have to be able to fight 2 or more people at a time! You can't be grappling with one person where there will be another attacker could knock you out!

[@TS0G0]

+Muhammad Ishaque that is possible for one on one fight!

[@islamonlysolution461]

what we do with this kind of art which is only for one on one even simple training with judo can do it

[@jaredbristol4825]

+Tsog Ayurzana says the guy that probably never been in a fight. BJJ is a last resort and is taught that way. And most fights do end up on the ground

[@islamonlysolution461]

Jared Bristol watch kazushi sakubara destroying gracie family and you will know what wrestler can do with some boxing and aikido skills

[@jaredbristol4825]

+Muhammad Ishaque I don't know what that has to do with anything.

[@CupuycA]

Первый бой вообще не понял. Какой "неверный бросок"??? Поднял выше пояса, бросил -- всё по правилам. В самбо один такой бросок сразу расценивается как чистая победа. А тут дисквалификация! Что за х-ня? Я не понимаю смысла JJ -- подойти, схватить и упасть на жопу -- ну это же заведомо проигрышная стратегия. В результате противник оказывается сверху со всеми преимуществами. Тупость. Да и смотреть стрёмно -- никакой бросковой техники, никакой динамичности боя. В самбо за такую стратегию ведения боя сразу дают предупреждение за пассивность. А могут и бал дать противнику, если тот подножку до падения поставит.

não fale merda, estude primeiro antes de defecar pela boca.

[@barmaleibarmaleev8599]

на этом турнире каждая школа боролась по своим правилам, в джиу джитсу позиция на спине это основная

[@artem_doronin]

@@barmaleibarmaleev8599 тем более, что по своим правилам - такие броски в самбо разрешены

[@daniil7289]

Ну это совсем разные дисциплины , хотя этот бросок в бжж называется слем , запрещен он вроде только в детских и юнешеских категориях

[@professorricardoteix]

ответ на португальском: São objetivos distintos, sendo o Jiu Jitsu constituído de técnicas apuradas de solo enquanto que o Sambo busca a queda como princípio. No Jiu Jitsu, embora a queda seja importante, é no chão (ne-waza) que a luta se faz forte. O golpe em questão é proibido no Jiu Jitsu por poder causar lesões na coluna. Eu não gosto dessa ideia de uma arte marcial contra outra, não se trata de quem é melhor, mas de lutas distintas.

[@federicoolschansky5684]

Bjj's tachi waza is so poor.

[@MegaHitman666]

Gracie did their technics in street and it worked!

[@kingdom482]

Full guard is a good position if you know what your doing there go watch nogeria vs bob sapp and see how jiu jitsu and teqnique can beat size and strength

[@scnarb]

@Voodoofreak35 Actually it could be legal in Greco or Freestyle I only wrestled folkstyle/collegiate so I can't say for sure on the others but it normally falls under unnecessary roughness.

[@suleymankamran1161]

Bjj like wing chun was good back in the old days now this generation is just living of the lengends back in days that’s why bbj like wing.chun is system that doesn’t actually work because of the ppl who are doing it

[@truthsayer2310]

suleyman kamran lol, bjj doesn’t work? Every mma guy uses jiu jitsu. Bjj were always wrestling/rolling and sparring which proves our theory true. Wing chun doesn’t spar and doesn’t work

[@jsguest7747]

As far as the video goes: BJJ guys like to take bottom and pull of some REALLY IMPRESSIVE subs from this position. But in this case it obviously didn't work out for him. He was kinda asking for the slam in my opinion.

[@SuperDUDERIKI]

Bas trained TKD when he was 14,he also started training MT at 20 which was the changing point in his style(he showcases 0 TKD styled strikes in his fights) and GSP NEVER trained TKD he's all about Karate.

[@SuperDUDERIKI]

But yes MMA=/= Muay Thai and BJJ, Combat Sambo and Shoot Wrestling produced many of the best fighters.

[@andersonalves1254]

Muay thai, JIUJITSU, Tae Kwon Do, Kickboxing, Karatê, Wrestling, Sambo, Sanda ( kung fu)....

[@hansolo1935]

BJJ rules again?

[@А.М-е3м]

Это показали наши бойцы в смешанных боях , до наших бразильцы там доминировали ,как только появились спортсмены из бывшего СССР то Бразильцы притухли , у нас их регулярно нагибают

[@Eldeibi84]

Sambo has a lot of great moves. However the rules are very limiting and frustrating. They need to start allowing chokes, and allow the rolling to be more free. By the same token I think that not slamming someone trying to do a triangle it's a stupid bjj rule.

[@uhtredofbebbanburg5493]

Yeah the only Grappling problem in Sambo is the lack of chockes

[@mrtruthforever]

The Russian guy slams the BJJ almost unconscious and they give the win to the BBJ guy? It's kind of funny how BJJ guys always want to fight on their back, then when they're against guys strong enough to slam them unconscious, they award the win to the BBJ guy (who appears one-dimensional).

[@eduardomunoz2773]

Frente a la arrogancia del BJJ DIGAMOS TODOS JUNTOS¡¡¡¡SAMBO!!!!

[@erikafabbri1]

funny part about all of this is that both of these arts originate from the same art which is judo

[@juliocamargo7352]

o cara deu um lindo bate-estaca no jujutero e perdeu a luta....kkkkkk que foda!!!

[@aldenizolaurent616]

4:28 tiro na guarda... esperando bate estaca kkk branca nao pode tiro na guarda... esse roxo aee ta mais pra branca

[@andersonalves1254]

Então, o lutador especialista no jiujitsu, muito famoso no PRIDE também levou u. Bate estaca. Sefor assim , ele( Arona) também seria ou é um faixa branca uai .

[@Youngvic06]

in most tournaments like this slams are against the rules. all competitors know the rules before competing and they have to follow them. not saying i agree with these rules but if you don't like the rules, you shouldn't compete.

[@Youngvic06]

the same could be said about the samboists trying to avoid the ground game. why take someone down if you don't want to be on the ground with them. that said, i agree...most bjj fighters need to work on takedowns and throws to be better rounded. Respect to both sports.

[@uhtredofbebbanburg5493]

Well because in Sambo there are very decent submissions. Also throwing someone onto concrete while remaining on your feet is very effective. Not only you deal devastating damage but you'll be in a very advantaged position (able to just kick him in the face)

[@christiangerhardt2408]

4:45 Should have been slammed again...

[@matarisambia8771]

** So, there is not need for a gun any more? **

[@zhvokhel]

russian still winning,BJJ guy are making no action just waiting...The legend of BJJ was broken in these matches,i see russians more active and flexible

[@uchimataleao]

Yeah, uh, it might also have something to do with safety reasons because these are regular people with day jobs and families not full time fighters.

[@Idontwantahandle6669]

Pizzajitsu in Sambo competition there are body slams are punches and kicks, all performed by people with day jobs. Bjj isn’t a legitimate martial art, the Gracie’s refused to fight people unless they could make the rules. Notice how irrelevant they became once unified rules were implemented into mma? The Gracie’s dropped off of the face of the earth when they couldn’t have everything their way. And Kazushi Sakuraba exposes the entire family.

[@jsguest7747]

Good point. I agree and concur.

[@dirkplankchest1796]

Why grapple when you can walk out of the square and get a restart. Lol at 5.2

[@TeamEmfield]

If you want to put a triangle or armbar on someone, you better know how to prevent the slam.

[@AlexsrAlexjr]

so who won in that fight? By judo or sambo rules Dato would win 10 times. He is very good judoka and i took my son to his club

[@Vinnymanvinny1]

@ethikal1362 Actually there is a lot of technique involved with takedowns. I have done BJJ for 3 yrs and Judo for a year, but I will say that Judo, Sambo, Wrestling etc. are far better at takedowns than BJJ. A BJJ guy would have a very hard time taking down a wrestler or any of the ones named above. I went into Judo to work on my takedowns.

[@mrpskane]

JIU JITSU DESSES CARAS É PÉSSIMO

[@acostaperezhectoraaron3733]

Sambo is better than bbj because in a real figth you can slam, smash, throw, hit....

[@schaelakhan]

BJJ really isn't Jujitsu....it comes from a lineage of Judo, As does Samdo. With great love for both arts I just wanted to remind people of the actual roots of both art forms. Jigaro Kano developed Judo from aspects of bujitsu(the warrior ways) to include Jujitsu and I've even read that he got throwing techniques from Karate Jitsu.("Jitsu" being war style and "Do" embodying the modern concept that you didn't have to always kill your opponent).A Russian agent took Judo and mixed Wrestling.

[@SeanWinters]

these both came from judo... which came from jujitsu... we're all bros! 'cept wrestling!

[@JesusLopez94]

Yep. I don't understand why BJJ guys think that full guard is such a good position. Its not! I respect BJJ, and I agree that it is probably the most superior martial art, but giving up dominant positions that easily should not be in anybody's game plan. Being on your back is not good. The Gracies were undefeated for so many years, but they understood that they shouldn't be on their back in MMA or even grappling rules. If you get put there, then its okay, but don't give it up so easily.

[@zhvokhel]

russian still pwinning,BJJ guy are making no action just waiting...The legend of BJJ was broken in these match...

[@Arsenbait]

САМБО !!!

[@sharkfinnigan]

it was against the rules, why was he asking for it? if we arent going to follow the rules it might as well be an mma fight

[@sdfjgsdfgsfdglsfjglskf1965]

Lutador de Jiu jitsu só é eficiente, quando o adversário não tem noção de chão.

[@andersonalves1254]

Exatamente. Provando que ele não é " completo " mesmo com o antigo Atemi Waza( técnicas traumatizantes ). É uma luta eficiente como qualquer outra.

[@1905ddubard]

apelou? o brasileiro que não tem força pra manter o cara travado.

[@Quetzalcoatl980]

Nice... proof of BJJ sucks in a real situation it's only backup by Sport Competition cus its rules

[@ronaldobarboza5953]

Im from Judo, but there is a diference in graduations!!!

[@manioban]

I think he is.