TEARING Apart the MYTHS of Bjergsen's Leadership - Bjergsen Becomes TSM's Coach (LoL)

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@Thooorin
@Thooorin 4 жыл бұрын
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@jamieabg7194
@jamieabg7194 4 жыл бұрын
Ive seen this everywhere on KZbin and thought nothing of it until now cause I know you wouldnt promote bullshit!
@Cryxboy
@Cryxboy 4 жыл бұрын
Big thanks to Ridge for sponsoring this spastic raging ginger manchild - I love it - and supporting his delusions!
@KleinpeterHank
@KleinpeterHank 4 жыл бұрын
Thorins been rubbing his hands like birdman, waiting to make this video for a while.
@polsonrl9587
@polsonrl9587 4 жыл бұрын
Fuming that he's not Wilt Chaimberlain tbh.
@mosukiton
@mosukiton 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfao this comment killed me
@MrChologno
@MrChologno 4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe Thorin is the first not even analyst that dares to question Bjergsen as a coach.
@Thooorin
@Thooorin 4 жыл бұрын
The others seem to think this is the WWE
@MrChologno
@MrChologno 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thooorin Good job, no one else would risk making this take public and put TSM fans against them.
@sketch3744
@sketch3744 4 жыл бұрын
@@Thooorin There's nothing about his tenure as a player that would make anyone think he would be decent coach. Does no one remember the issues he had with Loco doco because he didn't respect Loco's approach to coaching and thought that the whole gameplan should just be to funnel himself? He's actively shown that he would probably be a terrible coach.
@Rakoon_lol
@Rakoon_lol 3 жыл бұрын
@@sketch3744 tbh when loco was coaching tsm bjergsen was one of the best players internationally.
@nuraby_9228
@nuraby_9228 3 жыл бұрын
@@Rakoon_lol Based on what?
@crazySeafood
@crazySeafood 4 жыл бұрын
"doublelift, one of the dumbest players outside the game" -- Thorin 2020 ROFL
@DoggyP00
@DoggyP00 4 жыл бұрын
He has said some of the most infamously stupid things in LoL history
@JoeMama-ik7qf
@JoeMama-ik7qf 4 жыл бұрын
Korea will always be 2 years behind
@SirNikurasu
@SirNikurasu 4 жыл бұрын
He literally is. He's (now that its way too late to get anyone thats decent or above btw) told Regi "oh by the way, I wont play unless I get an insane support", to the point they're looking to just kick him. This dude is actually shit inside and outside of the game
@mongolidp
@mongolidp 4 жыл бұрын
Same goes for his gf tbf
@benkyung4894
@benkyung4894 3 жыл бұрын
@@SirNikurasu people think hes NA goat btw
@nubbinthemonkey
@nubbinthemonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Given Bjerg's idol status with the fans, longstanding relationship with Regi, and ownership stake it's going to be basically impossible to displace him as head coach even if he's garbage. Parth has been hanging around like a bad smell for a long time too. If he can't get it together tsm is in for an era of mediocrity
@TCGdp
@TCGdp 4 жыл бұрын
It's shocking that this org still manages to attract top talent
@SoyFelipeCTM
@SoyFelipeCTM 4 жыл бұрын
good, now we wont see tsm in the playoffs for the years to come
@dayrenist
@dayrenist 4 жыл бұрын
@@TCGdp you mean top talents don’t want to play for a huge salary? Crazy
@FeaturingDark54
@FeaturingDark54 4 жыл бұрын
@@dayrenist TSM is one of the cheaper teams tho aren't they? They arent like EG or DIG dropping the investor bucks on players
@TCGdp
@TCGdp 4 жыл бұрын
@@dayrenist risk vs. reward, I don't know the specifics but there's a pretty high chance after playing on tsm your reputation is ruined and your market value goes down. If it significantly shortens your career and salary prospects is it really worth it?
@brandonwalker5011
@brandonwalker5011 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly like Thooorins ads almost as much as the content
@Blue5Berry
@Blue5Berry 4 жыл бұрын
Had a Ridge Wallet, they're super expensive and trash. Mine broke after a few months. Switched to a cheaper brand almost 2 years ago and it almost as new.
@mihirx27
@mihirx27 4 жыл бұрын
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@MitoseNorikoFan
@MitoseNorikoFan 4 жыл бұрын
Nice try Thorin
@mihirx27
@mihirx27 4 жыл бұрын
@John James Rambo Ah yes, I like to keep my coins, cards and other important stuff out of their wallet, into a pocket. Jostling for space with a Mobile phone, house keys, vehicle keys, an handkerchief. I mean, I might as well get a backpack and store all of that in there eh? It's not about keeping the stuff, it's compartmentalization ma guy.
@mihirx27
@mihirx27 4 жыл бұрын
@John James Rambo ..... What kind of a MONSTROUS pocket do you have that can fit all of this? Forget the wallet, I wanna speak to your tailor/clothing retailer who's somehow fit an enderchest inside that pant pocket lmfao.
@max080499
@max080499 4 жыл бұрын
thorin got that anonymous transport card
@johnriley1324
@johnriley1324 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, nobody ever talks about bjergsens faults, they just praise him for being a godlike midlaner.
@koreanata6951
@koreanata6951 4 жыл бұрын
I fully agree. Thorin, you are the one analyst who sees beyond the public perception, formed mainly by the casters, that are usually good verbally and artistically, but not necessarily analytically.
@justbeone6518
@justbeone6518 4 жыл бұрын
I dislike Thorin...but he is spot on! Had to give this video a like.
@provicman
@provicman 4 жыл бұрын
banger intro, felt like them bbc roadshows and was genuinely sold on the card holder
@subjectblue3066
@subjectblue3066 4 жыл бұрын
same, its one of the few times I've actually considered buying a sponsored thing.
@williams642009
@williams642009 4 жыл бұрын
As a man that has watched a lot of sports before I started watching esports I love the Steve Nash reference. Keep it up Thooorin really enjoying the content.
@iriezzz
@iriezzz 4 жыл бұрын
Bjergsen's practically been coaching TSM for the last 2 seasons and it's been constant lack of strategy and blaming and swapping all the other players for the lack of cohesion.
@nostalgiacorner1999
@nostalgiacorner1999 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@fighto217
@fighto217 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for someone to give a honest opinion on bjergsen moving to head coach. So many good talking points and every other analyst or league personality does even touch addressing a single one of them.
@jfree672
@jfree672 4 жыл бұрын
wow is this the 1st time reddit is smarter than the experts and analysts because in the bjergsen thread most people were hesitant about his ability as a head coach if i am not misremembering it.
@jamescalder5115
@jamescalder5115 4 жыл бұрын
Those experts and analysts are for the most part exceptionally biased
@Elidan1012
@Elidan1012 4 жыл бұрын
@@jamescalder5115 so is reddit
@TheRealSamPreece
@TheRealSamPreece 4 жыл бұрын
dunno how anyone could watch those worlds and say he is up to scratch.
@benwatson222
@benwatson222 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealSamPreece I don’t see how his world performance indicates his ability to coach??
@shrasterp1793
@shrasterp1793 4 жыл бұрын
Ooo I’ve been waiting for this. Thorins content is so interesting
@maugetar9340
@maugetar9340 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video. The perception of TSM and in particular of Bjergsen ist highly irritating since years. So many great players joined TSM and always failed. The perception was often that they were at fault rather than TSM.
@MrZimono
@MrZimono 4 жыл бұрын
I see Fnatic fans do something like this with Rekkles too, they say he is team captain and a leader, but I don't see that. To me he seems like a really skilled individual player that only does his job, but does it very well.
@joshuabryant9845
@joshuabryant9845 4 жыл бұрын
I always pegged you for a Hitch fan. Loved that you brought him up. Dude was one of the brightest to ever live. Great content, Thorin.
@jevonscantlebury9834
@jevonscantlebury9834 4 жыл бұрын
Thorin just wants to see TSM world burn. the man is leaving them with nothing
@seanhavern2384
@seanhavern2384 4 жыл бұрын
With the recent reports about the off season roster moves falling through for TSM the team may be burning to the ground.
@MVPhurricane
@MVPhurricane 4 жыл бұрын
TSM is the gift that keeps on giving, as far as burning goes. like a phoenix, but one that is just reborn straight to ashes.
@mosukiton
@mosukiton 4 жыл бұрын
Nah mate you got it backwards. Tsm is leaving tsm with nothing. Thorin has been giving them free consultations via his videos for years
@Oh.Nah_
@Oh.Nah_ 4 жыл бұрын
I learn something new about thorin every day. Only been following his content for about 3 years so I didn’t know he was color blind.
@dennis_j_kim
@dennis_j_kim 4 жыл бұрын
17:20 Why you gotta do Steve Nash like that 😂 Gotta love Thorin's NBA analogies - accurate and very helpful for making sense of an otherwise nascent esports
@clawan155
@clawan155 4 жыл бұрын
competitive league has been around for 10 years, i wouldnt exactly call it nascent at this point...
@emilelocas5496
@emilelocas5496 4 жыл бұрын
Hai wouldve been a great coach right after his career. Imo
@carlosbenitez9669
@carlosbenitez9669 4 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that at least hai was known to make it SOLELY on his shotcalling. Even with 200 years, mentally retired teammates he would win lol
@philipkay8372
@philipkay8372 3 жыл бұрын
Hes the ceo of his own esports org with a focus on positive environment. So he decided to go up even higher than coach
@ParallelZuVega
@ParallelZuVega 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, you've been completely popping off for the last week :D
@MrDoit187
@MrDoit187 4 жыл бұрын
unlucky for him that noone cares. i mean 20k with TSM clickbait hate is not rly that much and usually his videos have a hard time breaking 50k. i hope he can pay his bills. These sponsorships are desperately needed
@ParallelZuVega
@ParallelZuVega 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrDoit187 lmao don't you have more important things to worry about? xD
@Fre5hplaya
@Fre5hplaya 4 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail looks just like the OG Deus Ex cover art lol.
@pavelr.8042
@pavelr.8042 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh didn't follow LCS as closely as LEC over the years, but all of this...is very sound. Bjerg really is the one to get what he wants, how he wants, who he wants, all those years. Great job putting it all into perspective Thorin.
@FuruHataNinzaburo-w8z
@FuruHataNinzaburo-w8z 4 жыл бұрын
The reference game on this video is fucking fire, Hitchens quote, Nash vs Jordan/Bryant, and fucking A Perfect Circle of all things
@sam.0021
@sam.0021 4 жыл бұрын
god damn thorins goin OFF.. bangers every day
@juliusvangstad7992
@juliusvangstad7992 4 жыл бұрын
He's on one for sure
@max080499
@max080499 4 жыл бұрын
Feel like the reasons they re getting Swordart now are the same they were telling themselves when they were getting mithy: Cerebral player, leader, can coach the rest of the map. Only thing now is that he's Taiwanese
@SlashDrago
@SlashDrago 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when they got Yellowstar to do that as well. Didn't work but oh well.
@ramzibouderrah7425
@ramzibouderrah7425 4 жыл бұрын
The transaction failed, now doublelift doesnt wanna play 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@max080499
@max080499 4 жыл бұрын
@@SlashDrago my thoughts exactly
@jamescalder5115
@jamescalder5115 4 жыл бұрын
The thing is they think SwordArt is some mechanical god like CoreJJ was... it’s why TSM fans are so crazy - Yellowstar was a leader, wasn’t mechanically gifted but understood the game better than anyone and he was destroyed in TSM because they thought he was something he wasn’t. Same with Mithy - Mithy went back to OG and was still successful even after he left TSM 😂.
@Perf401
@Perf401 4 жыл бұрын
2nd thing is that he is not Mithy
@smolclaire2697
@smolclaire2697 4 жыл бұрын
Your part of role players being better coaches around 8min is so correct i feel, its a major reason i RO was able to become a good coach for C9 academy and hopefully we can see him do good on the starter roster as well. It does feel like, esp in league, players who were role players and knew how to elevate their team end up being better coaches than the superstars or outsiders.
@esportsweapon6907
@esportsweapon6907 4 жыл бұрын
"Legendary Eu midlaner" We all remember his time on Copenhagen Wolves and NIP dominating the European scene guys. It happened.
@Aliamner
@Aliamner 4 жыл бұрын
If you are seeing Bjergsen as an EU player still you need to get yourself checked. He has played for NA 3X as much (if not more) than he has for EU.
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 4 жыл бұрын
Its kinda weird when people say that Bjerg is a NA player or that NA/TSM developed Bjerg. He was already playing pro for 2 seasons in EU. Everyone already knew that the guy is good cause he already went even with xPeke, AlexIch and Froggen in lane. All of them were established worlds caliber mids, maybe even best mids worldwide (time before faker). So to say that NA developed Bjerg is a long stretch considering he already performed at peak lvl in EU. Also players did not rely on coaches back then, coaches were just there for team coordination. Please also consider that TSM was never able to develop Bjergsen further. I think Bjergsen teached the game to himself for the most part. Bjergs play also stagnated after he got to NA, sure he smurfed early on but thats just because he trained with way better EU mids like Froggen, AlexIch and xPeke in EU and after getting to NA the mid competition was just a lot worse. Just look at Bjerg at international events, its not like TSM helped him. Especially after they baited him into renewing his contract time and time again even though it was obvious that TSM is holding him back. There is no doubt in my mind that he could have had several deep runs at worlds, maybe even be a world champ, had he stayed in EU. Also consider that we are not talking about a good NA org who already developed talent like C9 in the past, TSM just buys talent that already performs and hopes for the best and meanwhile their coaching stuff is wasting and surpressing the talented roster, it happened way to often already that players who leave the org suddenly perform again. Also Bjerg playstyle changed in NA, it became more passive. Nowadays Bjerg is only proactive in the sense of good roam timings but he does not play for kill pressure in lane anymore. Just look at his picks in playoffs/worlds Zilean and Galio. He became a mediorcre support player. I just miss the old Bjergsen high tempo, kill pressure playstyle. But on TSM he did not have a coach who could tell him what to do and had enough knowledge, in NA he did not even have the competetition to properly define his playstyle. Sure there was Hai and later on Jensen both from C9 and about even in skill with Bjerg but not better (only regional ofc). Bjerg staying on TSM just made me sad, so much talent but its not used whatsoever. I would just hope that people who say that NA/TSM developed Bjerg actually think about what they are saying. Sure he played in NA for a long time but thats about it, why do people think that TSM did any meaningful development? TSM does not even have the proper coaching stuff and NA does not have the mid competition to begin with. More often than not people just overrate Bjerg for what he could have done in a proper team and ignore the 'coaching' he got from Regi/Parth
@iyankku
@iyankku 4 жыл бұрын
@@maurice6908 he got worse because he's an NA player now, dingus
@Ravanuh
@Ravanuh 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like Steve Nash deserved one of them other is up for debate though.
@PixelKatana
@PixelKatana 4 жыл бұрын
He stole both from Kobe mate
@Creamouz
@Creamouz 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you and Dom discuss this further since Dom seemed to like the idea of Bjerg becoming head coach back when that was announced
@jackbrowni5345
@jackbrowni5345 4 жыл бұрын
This video should be no 1 trends in league category and every na fan and eu fan should watch it
@sleven8013
@sleven8013 4 жыл бұрын
So we got Pink Floyd, Explosions in the Sky, MJ and now A Perfect Circle. The music keeps coming.
@CxerRy96
@CxerRy96 4 жыл бұрын
10:50 this is basically every NA team that won a domestic title EVER except C9 with Hai...the strategy is basically, have default winning lanes, do nothing for the next 15 minutes after lane phase, and then when the game hits that moment of whoever wins the teamfight wins all objectives they slightly out-mechanic you, sometimes they don't but instead the very slight gold lead and 0.5 items (qss for example) makes the big difference
@MichellyMe
@MichellyMe 4 жыл бұрын
When the gap between one player and their teammates is too big, they can actually become a detriment to the team rather than an addition because theyre on such different pages. When I hear about how much bjerg actually thinks about the game, knowing how much gold he an his opponent will have at each wave and managing the wave based on enemy position and sidelane states to forcing opponents into a bad recall based on item gold costs etc. I honestly feel like hes just on such a different level than his NA teammates (I think huni has a similar problem as bjerg) who consistently forget to even buy items after recalling that it makes everyone not know what the fuck to do. Bjerg cant understand his teammates and his teammates cant understand him. I think thats why he's stepping down to focus on elevating his teammates while downgrading mid so everyone can be on more of the same page.
@Naamionalle1
@Naamionalle1 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the content
@digitalskill
@digitalskill 4 жыл бұрын
TSM is like an ex that broke up and ghosted thorin with how much he can't leave them be haha
@werwar27
@werwar27 4 жыл бұрын
26:30 someone finally said it
@evangelosalexiou3605
@evangelosalexiou3605 4 жыл бұрын
If TSM has been underwhelming for the past years even after Bjerg became partially a boss and is thought to teach people the game and the coaches play around his thinking.. then now that he has the last say in everything even the first, why would their performance change? If he is so clever about the game why were they like this the past 3 years? Man, idk, i hope he does well and we'll see in the longrun, you can't prove anything in one year unless you win, i wouldn't be toi harsh on him if they don't do that well
@adriangarcia2158
@adriangarcia2158 4 жыл бұрын
Partly because his game was handicapped when hes having to worry about others. TSM needed the players to only worry about their gameplay they shoudint have to of others thats the coaches job
@evangelosalexiou3605
@evangelosalexiou3605 4 жыл бұрын
@@adriangarcia2158 why did he have to worry about others though, the players were always selected to win and somehow fit with Bjerg. Were they so bad that he had to think about how they should play as if he is their dad or sth? TSM is being regarded by many as a "talent killer" team for some reason. What if Bjergsen can't translate his thoughts to the others? And doesn't the fact that he has to worry for one more person right now make it in a way worse? He has to worry about what Mid lane is doing now too. Idk man. Even though i don't like TSM as an org and i didn't enjoy watching them play, i don't think bad of the players and the coaching stuff, but i really want to watch some League that Bjerg is supposed to be loved for, and having watched League for only 3 years (his worst years playing professionally), i only saw it in a couple of games and i could make an argument in some best of fives where they got away with playing Zilean. Wish him the best, his coaching career will prob be interesting af
@lucasalarcon3230
@lucasalarcon3230 4 жыл бұрын
@@evangelosalexiou3605 huni, poe and dl are 3 players a with strong identity and game view thay gonna carry bj
@a7x266
@a7x266 4 жыл бұрын
@@evangelosalexiou3605 tsm went from a super team destroying Na to losing double, Sven and bio. And starting fresh the next year. They never got a actual good jg until getting spica and even then he wasn’t the best early summer. Of course tsm had a couple bad years. I mean they had grig and Akkadian. Both are garbage.
@EraseMemoriesHD
@EraseMemoriesHD 3 жыл бұрын
@@evangelosalexiou3605 I don’t think you’re understanding how Bjerg fit the team as a player and what his main concerns were and how they differ from what they will be as a coach, but don’t worry it’s not just you.
@csavory
@csavory 4 жыл бұрын
Thorin is the best personality in e-sports.
@karstenberning
@karstenberning 4 жыл бұрын
Dear Søren Bjerg, I am citing my 2-week-old comment from LinkedIn on the TSM Bjergsen announcement: “Upgrade. I am not sure about his people skills and management skills. He is a great player-coach for sure, but you have to build a support team around him. You should also work on your Team Culture.” I wanna be honest with you, from what I have seen from videos (TSM Legends) so far, TSM has a very negative to toxic team culture and you were part of it or did not change it as a player. How the players behave is not professional and leads to burnouts, distrusting towards teammates, and falling back into bad habits in times of stress. I have been teaching and mentoring kids, students, and adults all my life. I would like to continue to help other people to achieve their potential, also you as a Head Coach. I am an expert in people management and improvement. My career philosophy is based on the poem by Charles Bukowski “No Leaders Please”. There is no work that I cannot familiarize myself with. My above-average dedication knows no limits and I am sure we are the same in this way. Let’s talk about Zoom or Skype and find out if we see a similar future for TSM. Yours sincerely Karsten
@quistley4799
@quistley4799 4 жыл бұрын
Butthurt TSM fans just droppin those dislikes on the video full of absolutely valid points. Maybe I am glad that Licorice is not on TSM, because if miracle won't happen, it will be disappointment.
@achilles7736
@achilles7736 4 жыл бұрын
The dislike ratio kinda tells me, that TSM fans didn´t change
@nm0408
@nm0408 4 жыл бұрын
Introverted feelings as a dominant cognitive function, same as Leo Messi. They seem to be poor leaders as they have weak understanding of the "objective" emotional needs of their teammates. Interesting to think about
@adamneptune121
@adamneptune121 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I have been thinking a lot of these things as a TSM fan, and think the problems that Bjergsen has created over the past several years will be amplified with him in the coaching role and the team will no longer have the plan B of having Bjergsen to carry the team out of shit situations. A couple things I disagree with: I do not think Bjergsen is as passive aggressive as you present. I think that narrative is based around Season 6 or Season 7 when we were given more insight into the team communication after games / slumps and he has since worked hard to correct some of those communication problems. Also, if you have an issue with a superior and it does not get resolved, it is common practice to go above their head to try and seek resolution. Saying you would just leave is a pretty negative mindset to have, especially if you care about the organization you are in. Just my 2 cents, great video!
@dari191
@dari191 4 жыл бұрын
Im not even into League but Thorin makes everything a banger.
@10tothe10088
@10tothe10088 4 жыл бұрын
Can anyone verify whether contactless payment works through the ridge? I use a paper (tyvek, not just normal paper) wallet specifically because I can just hold the wallet against "tap" payment receivers for the card to scan.
@qowkerf
@qowkerf 4 жыл бұрын
Ridge wallets are RFID blockers, the entire purpose of them is for others to NOT be able to read your card data remotely.
@10tothe10088
@10tothe10088 4 жыл бұрын
@@qowkerf cool, didn't know they blocked RFID. Unfortunately I like the insecurity of paper, especially since I don't tend to hang out in places people are walking around with RFID scanners
@johnstarr5137
@johnstarr5137 4 жыл бұрын
I love that thorin references clerks in the most out of left field ways
@maurice6908
@maurice6908 4 жыл бұрын
TSM Bjergsen is legit next lvl. As TSM coach he can teach his passive playstyle to the talented TSM roster and show them how to do nothing and lose slowly. Bjerg now has the unique opportunity to start a 5 wards roster. Just as people have foreseen, the Talent Suppression Machine aint a meme afterall xD
@saraengllesne9662
@saraengllesne9662 4 жыл бұрын
The content grind is awesome
@Suppy842
@Suppy842 4 жыл бұрын
all tsm simps be disliking another sound analysis from TSM's biggest fan Thorin Duncan Shields nice and early to pray to the talent suppression machine. TSM will finish bottom 8 have fun.
@dontask3613
@dontask3613 4 жыл бұрын
I understand a lot of these arguments, but there are some things I take issue with. 1.) Bjerg while definitely praised for individual play, also recieved lots of praise for his ability to be a force multiplier for his team and role play. 2.) Teammates and Bjerg himself have said he has been reading and studying coaching and leadership for years now, in order to be a better team leader and you can see this in his development from season to season in the legends episodes.
@rockdalianninja1056
@rockdalianninja1056 4 жыл бұрын
Love the A perfect circle reference
@55123Swiftfoot
@55123Swiftfoot 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Thorin talk about Steve Nash's move to head coach for the Nets, especially with D'Antoni on his staff
@j0rdeh
@j0rdeh 4 жыл бұрын
Saw a ridge wallet in the preview and I'm excited for the fire ad that'll be attached to it.
@bobeatyourbrains
@bobeatyourbrains 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Hitchens quote
@KSSGHD
@KSSGHD 4 жыл бұрын
Are we gonna talk about the sock on his mic?
@WeirdSeagul
@WeirdSeagul 4 жыл бұрын
this will be really positive for sure considering that all of TSMs problems seem to be the same and bjerg is always the consistent factor
@Sanif514
@Sanif514 4 жыл бұрын
I have mixed opinions on everything he's said, but I think it comes from a good place of wanting TSM and Bjergsen to do well.
@noahjafari2765
@noahjafari2765 4 жыл бұрын
I do understand throins point that players don't make great coach's in American sports but in EU soccer the almost every top job rn is a former player
@xander0901
@xander0901 4 жыл бұрын
As a general rule, it's not a great idea for a player to become the head coach of their former teammates. Not accounting for TSM's general culture of subverting the Head Coach, it's pretty hard for players to suddenly shift their relationship with a teammate to that of a head coach, even if that former teammate was the captain. And using Stephen A's favorite viewpoint when looking at head coaching hires, how many other analysts and/or assistants are there that are way more deserving of a head coaching opportunity based on their resume? It's fine for Bjergsen to have coaching aspirations, but he really shouldn't start as a head coach and he really shouldn't stay with TSM (also accounting for obvious conflict of interest). If TSM really wanted to keep him, I would say start him as a strategic coach and bump him off the ownership. Also, shoutouts to your Ridge Wallet sponsorship. I've had mine for over a year and it's a fantastic product.
@eyeslikeoceans
@eyeslikeoceans 4 жыл бұрын
I have been a TSM fan since season 2 and the last few years, especially since BB joined, I've felt like Bjergsen refuses to takes fights that he don't think are perfect for him. Even when his engage is full on going in. I felt so bad for BB, Bio and their junglers cause he calls off so many plays. If you don't trust your engage to fucking know what they're doing and you're willing to take some risks why the fuck are they in your team in the first place.
@prawtism
@prawtism 4 жыл бұрын
Two words: comfort zone
@WoolTecMc
@WoolTecMc 4 жыл бұрын
It's pretty hard to take your TSM takes serious at this point :'D You're always looking for the worst possible angle and projecting the worst possible outcome. I do think you have some valid points tho. Bjerg definitely needs help with managing practice, Player mental health and conflict resolving.
@MrCFBad
@MrCFBad 3 жыл бұрын
No matter how much he tries to push the narrative that Jensen is better it will never stick. Bjerg shit on Jensen far too much, who had to join a stacked super team to finally get passed him.
@TheOfficailTribe
@TheOfficailTribe 4 жыл бұрын
Not going to lie ridge wallet add at the start was the best I've seen on KZbin 😂
@doublejesusful
@doublejesusful 4 жыл бұрын
Once Bjergsen transitioned over to a career NA player (playing to not be the reason they lost instead of playing to win) I never understood what the hype was about, he just lost that killer instinct and went from LeBlanc to Zilean. Jensen struck a balance at least and it shows when they GET OUT OF GROUPS!
@astrojunkey
@astrojunkey 4 жыл бұрын
The like to dislike ratio really makes one think
@Zero-jt3bs
@Zero-jt3bs 4 жыл бұрын
cant wait for thorin to talk about tsm offseasondrama about signing swordart
@johnbarry6637
@johnbarry6637 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I spent years thinking Thoorin was Wilt Chamberlin. Now I feel foolish.
@willruane1675
@willruane1675 4 жыл бұрын
is he gonna be a thierry henry at monaco or a zidane at real madrid?
@Woodrow512
@Woodrow512 4 жыл бұрын
Always wondered why he's got a sock over the mic. I guess It has to do with sound quality or whatever but It just looks so goofy
@learnedeldersofteemo8917
@learnedeldersofteemo8917 4 жыл бұрын
Thoorin shops at Albert Heijn confirmed.
@dylancummings5033
@dylancummings5033 4 жыл бұрын
"I've been using it for 5 months", ah an ad I actually don't mind watching. A genuine recommendation rather than a script pushing something you received that morning
@scienz0220
@scienz0220 4 жыл бұрын
TSM is basically just a group of friends making money playing video games. They don't really need to win games to have a comfortable lifestyle and a big paycheck; its better to just milk the situation and put your buddies into roles
@raionxk1
@raionxk1 4 жыл бұрын
Aye thooorin, send me a ridge wallet, for the culture bruh.
@husaynmir1430
@husaynmir1430 4 жыл бұрын
Bjerg and Regi punching the air rn.
@karstenberning
@karstenberning 4 жыл бұрын
You are on fire!!
@ZackCFNA
@ZackCFNA 4 жыл бұрын
What great advertising material
@j.doele1620
@j.doele1620 4 жыл бұрын
Steve Kerr is another great coach who also had a good career as a professional basketball player but he had Scottie and micheal
@SirNikurasu
@SirNikurasu 4 жыл бұрын
Did you put a sock over your microphone?
@JanAlleman1
@JanAlleman1 4 жыл бұрын
Bjergen has never been good enough for international play, even at his peak. The problems was never with his individual play, it was always his teamplay and macro. Guess what you teach your players as head coach; teamplay and macro. Will he be able to coach effectively? I think the chance is just as high as I become the next US president. He should coach the midlane, not a team. Watch TSM fail nationally AND internationally if Bjergsen stays.
@NapoleonSoares
@NapoleonSoares 4 жыл бұрын
This just isn't true, peak Bjergsen was absolutely good enough for international play. You don't need to make hyperbolic statements like this in order to prove that Bjerg might not be a good coach.
@deltasupreme9139
@deltasupreme9139 4 жыл бұрын
Not a TSM fan but I think writing him off before even the first game is a *bit* too soon imho
@michellefanter4671
@michellefanter4671 4 жыл бұрын
wtf are you on about Bjergsen was one of the best mids in the world at some points
@elvis4139
@elvis4139 4 жыл бұрын
Just to add to this. Dude was able to solo kill even korean mids for what it's worth. www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/dglpex/bjergsen_has_gotten_a_solo_kill_at_nearly_every/
@kmac6530
@kmac6530 4 жыл бұрын
"The problems was never with his individual play" people seem to not read that part of this statement. the statement was that bjerg was mechanically skilled but behind the world stage on macro which outside of his time on zed is actually kinda true.
@EraseMemoriesHD
@EraseMemoriesHD 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like a bunch of bronze players in the comments trying to throw advice around or act like their game knowledge has any backing. 🤷🏼‍♂️
@antoniebrongers1055
@antoniebrongers1055 4 жыл бұрын
The saddest angle in the Conflict of Interest is that Bjergsen has to take into account the fact that there are players with streams that are inherently more valuable to him as an owner but can negatively impact the courses of action as a team.
@michie123
@michie123 4 жыл бұрын
since you're into the NBA heavily, I would love to hear future takes on Lamelo Ball.
@RaggedM88
@RaggedM88 4 жыл бұрын
Wow Thorin really tore into Bjerg.
@patrickspencer1143
@patrickspencer1143 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the wallet thing was an analogy for tsm at first
@icebboylol8822
@icebboylol8822 4 жыл бұрын
I like the NBA references. keep em coming, squire!
@presorts
@presorts 4 жыл бұрын
Gretzky was a horrible coach too
@First8116
@First8116 4 жыл бұрын
"I've never been offended by something so true." I want to be excited about him being coach but I worry he will try to have too much of an influence on the style. I've been begging TSM to play an uptempo style and they NEVER did. He has a potentially solid lineup, he just needs to make sure they are all happy, communicating, and on the same page. Other than that, just stay out of the way.
@sossamarkets4796
@sossamarkets4796 4 жыл бұрын
Weren't they the fastest team last split?
@xxcodwawxx100
@xxcodwawxx100 4 жыл бұрын
Sossa Markets they never play proactively at worlds
@michaelb.5845
@michaelb.5845 4 жыл бұрын
this gon' be good
@nostalgiacorner1999
@nostalgiacorner1999 4 жыл бұрын
Bjergsen needs to watch this and reflect
@borofreak
@borofreak 4 жыл бұрын
Danehearth has supplied Thorin with some of his Ridgewallets, I see.
@years-ti7xl
@years-ti7xl 3 жыл бұрын
Man this definitely aged well since Bjerg is currently sucking. Who knows he might improve soon but this is TSM, the only thing they imporved so far is they can speedrun lose at an efficient rate.
@whiteflame24
@whiteflame24 4 жыл бұрын
Wait you're telling me Thoorin is not Wilt Chamberlain?
@MakinMoneyISeasy
@MakinMoneyISeasy 3 жыл бұрын
My god this is savage, yet rings so true.
@tanklett
@tanklett 4 жыл бұрын
I dig the dirty sock pop filter
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