Tech Evolution: Mario Kart 25th Anniversary Special! 9 Games, 9 Consoles!

[@jayde_d]

The physically based shaders really make MK8 look incredible. The Wii U version holds up really well, even at 720p

[@valenzuelasstudios1838]

It looks pixelated on my 1080p tv which is why the switch version is superior.

[@Darian-mk1bw]

This series means a lot to me as a gamer. I started on mario kart ds and then played the hell out of wii. I remember seeing the first e3 footage of MK7 and being blown away that a handheld could pull off that type of visual detail and also seeing the first HD mario kart on wii u and being so damn excited for it, im still playing mk8 deluxe to this day

[@peruprofundodance]

Keep em coming!!!! Love these nostalgic episodes.

[@ibrahim-ob1lt]

ron s PS4 pro is trash

[@TheMelonbrew]

My god.... Mario Kart on the SNES, its been 25 years? WOW!!!!!

[@PookaBot]

I feel so freaking old... x_x

[@kennikitty]

Jepp. I'm old. D:

[@Poever]

Surprised you didn't mention the lack of music in 3-4 player multiplayer in Mario Kart 64 due to limited memory

[@yas6156]

Poever Wait really? Wow...

[@1gta4gta]

Poever poor nintendo

[@markh8189]

Wow, I didn't even know that, I didn't know midi used that much memory

[@Sceptonic]

Mark Alelen I mean, the N64 only had like 4 KILOBYTES to use as cache to store music, textures, etc. And with 4 players on screen, thats a lot of textures that the poor N64 could barely store, so they sacrificed the music.

[@theobserver4214]

DemonicScepter It really should’ve been 8 Kilobytes

[@jacksonlovesnintendo]

This is going to sound so freaking dumb and cheesy, but when that transition from Super Mario Kart's Rainbow Road to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe's Rainbow Road happened, I got a little emotional! Really, it's just so impressive how far we've come, but the same fun has always been there, yet again (and I recognize commenting this on a Digital Foundry video of all places won't make me popular) proving to me that gameplay will ALWAYS be more important than tech, which I feel many third party companies AND consumers are disillusioned by. Anyways, great video.

[@gayluigi6495]

its not dumb or cheesy. i felt the same way lol

[@Jigsaw2383]

That is just a statement to defend nintendo... because everything is important, from graphics to story to gameplay difficulty and music.

[@LeoA2600]

Doesn't take much to tear you up.

[@jacksonlovesnintendo]

Leo Ames yeah I know it's weird. I usually never get emotional even over things that many others do. I'm fact I really only get emotional over nostalgic-esque things or when a game feels really magical. Other then that I tend to be quite reserved with my emotions.

[@jacksonlovesnintendo]

wicked science well in my experience, I've played many games with amazing (as in realistic) graphics, but left bored and unsatisfied whereas I've left many games that weren't realistic left wanting more. Personally I'd take a more stylized art style over realistic graphics any day of the week, but I still appreciate realism, just in moderation.

[@dabreadman6567]

25 years of destroying friendships.

[@dreammfyre]

And walls.

[@th00perman_]

*And controllers.*

[@SquidJoe]

And TV's

[@Padoca]

No, that would be Mario Party.

[@PhantomHavok]

And vocal chords.

[@frombauer]

Mario Kart had an additional chip (DSP-1) to help with the mode 7 calculations. Weird this wasn't mentioned!

[@Crash84]

in fact, he specifically claimed that Super Mario Kart had no add on chips, which is straight up wrong

[@MaxwelThuThu]

Crash He explains that mode 7 is a SNES feature, so don't need a special chip. It's correct. But yes, SMK uses the DSP-1 just like Pilotwings to do some special things with the mode 7.

[@shukterhousejive]

He also said that MKDS tapped into the GBA chip, which I'm pretty sure was 100% forbidden and would make the game unplayable on the DSi. Somebody needs to up their factchecking game.

[@Jonen560ti]

If he was talking about the 33Mhz ARM7 CPU, then it would work on DSi as DSi still had that chip. the DSi also used the same ARM9 main CPU as the DS, just clocked to 133Mhz up from 67Mhz

[@shukterhousejive]

Huh, I remember a story where SEGA bought out a homebrew genesis emulator for a Sonic collection and had to rewrite it to not touch the ARM7 because using that chip was against the cert rules. Might be misremembering that one though.

[@pcgameboy8407]

Mario kart 8 is a masterpiece.

[@Miyapoop]

Just wish they'd have some sorts of special deal for owners of the Wii U version as an incentive to buy a second copy of virtually the same game. They do have access to your purchase-history by way of a Nintendo Account after all.

[@Nahtan123]

The new battle mode and ability to take it wherever you go won me over. Also, if you didn't have the DLC, that's included along with a few new characters. Plus it boasts a native 1080p resolution at 60fps compared the the Wii U's 720p. If you have the money it's definitely worth it!

[@ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest]

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is actually my favourite game of alltime.

[@OOFUS4103]

Not as good as Wii though

[@nickyeah9050]

@@OOFUS4103 wii is overrated

[@HEXONE4LIFE]

I still remember when I first played Mario Kart on SNES. I was completely hooked from day one. Nostalgia!

[@randytyson]

Happy to see this in my feed, I thought no else would celebrate. You know how to do gaming right

[@FrankieHiltz]

Nintendo are masters are creating incredible games, with near perfect performance. Whoever you think is the best developer to create perfect ports can be given a serious run for their money by Nintendo. We've all gotten so used to getting a clusterfuck of patches months after games release, that it seems alien to pick up a Nintendo game and spend weeks 100 percenting it without a single patch in between (since it's usually not needed for them). Their passion for perfection really shines through in every game, you can genuinely still feel it 40 years later. Phenomenal!

[@realislit8064]

Dingleberry Tech too bad they seem don't know how to do business

[@FrankieHiltz]

Yeaup, 100% agree. How they've stayed afloat after literally FORCING gimmicky motion controls (starfox, skyward sword), not shooting for much more powerful systems, literally backstabbing all third parties, and doing dumb shit to fight piracy, is beyond me. They sure have on hell of a dedicated fan base.

[@trinitysingularityzombiech7836]

Dingleberry Tech the near perfect preformance comes from using GameCube like graphics GameCube on. Xbox and Sony can do it also using last gen graphics.

[@FrankieHiltz]

Not exactly. Nintendo (regardless of power) pushes their consoles to their absolute limits, while maintaining incredible fluidity. Wheras, when the other's try to do so, they wind up with a 960p upscaled, 30fps with constant drops to 20. They couldn't even get Crash to run at 60 fps on the PS4, where as Nintendo could port it to do so on the Switch with nearly identical graphics at a crisp 60. Regardless of the max graphical output of either platform, Nintendo knows how to squeeze every last drip of available resources from their consoles. When Sony/Microsoft do that, they wind up with a 120gb size game with upscaled 1600p at 20/30fps.

[@randomuser4785]

Too bad Nintendo games look like outdated mess comparing to other platforms. It's not hard to run mobile looking game 60fps aka Nintendo 'graphics' in 2017.

[@scanningforvideos]

Lots of detail and work going into this makes for some great viewing. Thanks

[@frustis]

Very glad you celebrated the anniversary, these nostalgia videos are very nice!

[@Ramsteinrig]

This was an EXCELLENT video! I'd love to see more videos like this. Specifically other Nintendo franchises nearing 30th anniversaries. :P

[@cassandraphillips2489]

21 years of accurate, rage endosing,non stop blue shells

[@trevorsoh2130]

Cassandra Phillips you must have been an ace at the game. I think blue shells have no place in the single player side of the game personally - but for multiplayer I like that there's a wildcard the throws winners off balance. It gives anyone trailing behind more impetus to try and catch up

[@AntiTako]

Cassandra Phillips one year of suffering with the ******* coins on first place.

[@Tom_Van_Zandt]

Huh...I never knew that the colors brown and green were a sign of maturity. I'm going to start wearing brown and green, and maybe someday I'll be a real boy!

[@TheTombot]

This video was an amazing blast from the past. Thank you so much.

[@Cae_the_Kitsune]

I love these types of retrospective episodes. Looking at the evolution of technology over time can often be a lot more interesting than just looking at cutting edge graphics after cutting edge graphics just between everyone's offerings fresh out of the oven. But...why is the video 720p? Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is the only 1080p game/version in there, sure, but it's there.

[@Jordan1000]

Digital Foundry has become one of my best KZbin channels.

[@stuarthenshall]

Great video. Learned a lot glad i watched. Had SNES version and just brought Switch so only seen those 2 versions...good to see what happened in between...

[@vesselinkrastev]

I was like: Damn, this looks really good for an N64 game! I didn't realize he was playing on a newer system.

[@tonybamanabonitomatopowers6057]

Mario Kart is the only racing series where I have loved every single game Nintendo has put out. Everything from Super Mario Kart, to Mario Kart 8 Deluxe I have enjoyed every single game from the series.

[@therealjaystone2344]

Mario Kart 7 was the last game to have 100% Mario franchise characters and tracks until 8 and that's what it killed the traditional series we all grew up.

[@therealjaystone2344]

just a channel Peoole didn't care: ROB was a memory and Wuhu courses are Miis which we accepted that.

[@therealjaystone2344]

Kenshiro Were you born in the original? No? stfu

[@frosty6845]

These retrospective videos are the best videos on the channel

[@Nick_Kearney]

25 years of Mario Kart, man I'm getting freaking old.

[@ClockedIt]

Been playing Mario Kart since the beginning and each game has been a delight. 25 years, man I feel old but also humbled that I was old enough to play this series from the start.

[@joshmartimez2235]

I remember playing Super Mario Kart as a kid and waz blown away with Mode 7. The music is catchy and memorable. Mario Kart 64,Mario Kart 7 and 8 Deluxe are the games in the franchise i currently own and love them all. Looking forward to playing Mario Kart 9.

[@marshallhill2283]

While watching this I thought "this is the pinnacle for graphics." But I also thought that back in 98 with Ocarina of Time....so it hard to imagine visually what a "better" Mario Kart would look like. Great video, keep up the good work.

This was an awesome video! So cool to see the entire Mario Kart series analysed and compared. As for what I'd wanna see in Mario Kart 9, I want the return of dual karts but with the refined gameplay of 8. A solid 60 in 3-4 player split screen would be great as well. I also wanna see a Diddy Kong Racing/Crash Team Racing style campaign.

[@JuiKuen]

Speaking of nitpicks: Diddy Kong Racing arrived 12 months after MK64, not 'many years later.' One or two other mis-info, but otherwise another great video.

[@shtiken]

Interesting look at a favorite series. Thanks for the great work and effort.

[@xxnike0629xx]

I think that with each Nintendo system, they put out a Mario Kart game as a means to show off their technical improvements with each generation of console they put out. Super Mario Kart is what I played a lot during my childhood. I remember Battle Mode with my friends. So much rage and LOL'ing. I never got a Nintendo system afterwards so playing the N64 was done through my friends' houses and I had a lot of fun. I never played Super Circuit or Double Dash. I did try out Mario Kart 7 on DS and Mario Kart Wii on the Wii when I had a 3DS, DS, and Wii years ago briefly before I sold them all. I never played Mario Kart 8 or 8 Deluxe. I'm a PlayStation gamer mainly. ^_^

[@lynnlynnson4921]

U should try 8 deluxe. Its actually pretty good

[@blueplanetproject77]

Great video! ... having a Mario Kart 8 relapse atm so this video is perfect timing. Thanks to Mario Kart MP, i got no gardening and chores done yesterday and spent my Sunday getting my face blown off in 200cc Versing the Mrs

[@TheDaemonDD]

Great video! I have some small nitpicks to point out though. You mention that from Double Dash and onwards, the series takes an only-3D approach, but there are some minor issues with that statement. Mario Kart DS is a prime example of cutting some edges down when it comes to performance. A lot of track features such as enemies and other obstacles were full 2D sprites, as well as the majority of the projectile items that you could see during gameplay. Granted, they were not as noticable as the character sprites in older games, but you'd be hard pressed not to see them in slower paced modes such as Mission Mode. Apart from that, this was a great nostalgia trip. I do like this franchise a lot, so seeing someone giving it a technical and analytical loveletter is always appreciated from my end.

[@sev2300]

I revisited the SNES version a few weeks ago; boy do they know how to crank the most outta Nintendo consoles!

[@scoobertdoobert876]

Overtime you guys should do Battlefield, CoD, Halo, etc. this was a great episode I'd like to see more like it!

[@SonplaysMinEcraft]

ew shooters

[@scoobertdoobert876]

SonPlaysMinEcraft yeah but I felt like they showcase the evolution of tech the best since those are the few long running series around today that push for high graphical fidelity. Nintendo games tend to have a timeless art style that makes the aging less apparent. Like GameCube Mario games, other than being low res looks a lot like today's Mario games.

[@toonpik7]

That'd be cool. But I think either Halo or Battlefield should get an episode. COD pretty much looks the same through all it's installments in that generation. For example, pre-7th gen games all looked the same, the 7th gen games all look the same, and the 8th gen games all look the same.

[@ThatOneSeong]

asxciie Blame idTech3 for that. :v

[@scoobertdoobert876]

asxciie I was hoping they'd skip around like cod 1-3, cod4, black ops 2, ghosts, advanced warfare and infinite warfare. All the modern warfare games are the same and the black ops isn't a significant step.

[@Mantenner]

Another brilliant episode Tom and DF. Enjoyed the whole thing :)

[@PhenomSage]

Would love to see this Tech Evolution series on more franchises! Final Fantasy would be really cool although would require a lot of time.

[@boredstudent]

I've played Mario Kart for years and it's awesome to see how much it's changed since Super Mario Kart. Mario Kart 8 is a visual masterpiece and even on the Switch it looks great.

[@BenjerminGaye]

Dynamic weather and Time of day is the next step.

[@DeesBees85]

BenjerminGaye right, because what this franchise needs is realism!

[@BenjerminGaye]

Dan Becker what does weather effects and a day night cycle have to do with realism?

[@idanniv3264]

BenjerminGaye why would we need day and night cycle in Mario kart It'll be a nice touch but it will also be unnecessary

[@BenjerminGaye]

I mean you weren't complaining when you got the 4 season animal crossing stage that does exactly what I said here why are you complaining now? it's the same idea but expanded over all the courses and not just one.

[@idanniv3264]

BenjerminGaye as I said it wouldn't be bad it's just won't make the game any better

[@Silvergun_Raven]

Mario Kart 64 is still my favorite to this day.

[@WheeledHamster]

We need more of these types of videos.

[@switchnx]

I can think of some graphical improvements for Mario Kart 9. Fully animated character faces instead of face plates and more detailed models to match the Mario Odyssey/Super Mario Party style. Maybe if they wait a generation they can add in RTX or something.

[@PookaBot]

I really want Sumo Digital to make a Sonic Racing 3. Transformed really gave Mario Kart a run for its money, and since it's on PC you can push it up to 4K/60fps very easily even on hardware that's a few years old. And it looks fantastic.

[@ArabianFreedom]

Sonic Transformed is my fav kart game. It was amazing, especially on PC!

[@DodgeThisBam]

Double Dash is still my favorite Mario Kart to date.

[@LordGotiko]

Tom Morgan and MK especial?! Hell yeah 😄

[@melack857]

It is not Super Mario Kart 64, it's just Mario Kart 64.

[@lucienbogoin2698]

Great job, as usual. Keep doing it guys

[@troyisfilming]

I remember being blown away when I saw Mario Kart on my Game Boy Advance.

[@thegantz87]

I remember being 5 years old begging my dad for Mario Kart on the snes.... god I'm old lol

[@okamiodonnell9153]

Whenever I used to play Mario Kart 64, I used to be confused why the character models always leaned to the side when going past the camera. It wasn't until awhile later I realized they were sprites and not models.

[@BillTrinensTongue]

Excellent video! Thank you!

[@xDARKSHADEx]

Keep up the great work, love your videos!

[@leomann3085]

It's going to be really difficult to follow up MK8D.

[@AdvancePlays]

Praise Kekistan I don't know how graphics could get much better. It's not going for realism so it doesn't really benefit from increased power as theyve already perfected their graphical style. So the improvements will have to come from gameplay, but even then there's nothing to improve. I reckon their best bet is to add some adventure mode like Diddy Kong Racing or another mechanic, like that burrowing one they thought about for 7.

[@thegamerzero6315]

AdvancePlays It's easy. Bring back 60fps for 3 and 4-player mode.

[@Sceptonic]

Praise Kekistan For one, they could improve on the anti aliasing, texture filtering, and anisotropic filtering as it would make it even more beautiful than it already is.

[@snetmotnosrorb3946]

As much as those things bother me, they don't justify a new game.

[@blshorty54]

I feel like I'm not the only one who was screaming internally for them to use items at times I thought were opportune moments

[@MisterDrumsNoob]

Great video, Tom! Thanks

[@unforgiven665]

Needed my DF Retro fix, but didn't get that sweet DF Retro intro...

[@Soulintent95]

The best part of mario kart is that it doesnt matter what game you played... it was always a great looking, incredibly fun game. SNES-n64 were my childhood... but MK 8 is so fun.

[@Yoshi_Boii]

Love love love love love! Great vid 👏🏻

[@tripandfall2379]

Great job, keep up the good work!

[@bauernkind8595]

You escaped from the blue shell. Good work DigitalFoundry.

[@wreagfe]

Happy bday MK! :)

[@SonnyFrisco]

Best gaming channel on youtube.

[@spectrumbots4268]

Whether you like or hate Nintendo if there's one thing we as gamers can ALL agree on, it's the fact that many of their games run very smoothly, regardless of the hardware! I'm more into the Sonic & All stars racing games , but i still like Mario Kart too.

[@PookaBot]

Have you played SRT on PC? It's freaking beautiful. Much better textures than on console, it looks more like a PS4/One level title.

[@spectrumbots4268]

Jinx I have that awesome game on PC! All that gorgeous detail at a smooth framerate! And also, Ryo Hazuki.

[@retrosoul8770]

Yeah except for that piece of crap that is the N64. So many games run sub 30 and dip well into low 20's and sometimes even 10-15! All because Nintendo wanted to stupidly cut costs on the motherboard, detaching the main cpu from a secure ram connection, preventing it from calculating code at a efficient level, quite pathetic. Luckily they redeemed themselves, and developed the GameCube to be a mighty greased workhorse that the 64 easily could have been. Allowing locked 60fps masterpieces like Melee, MPrime and FZGX to be born.

[@spectrumbots4268]

Retro Soul Yeah, I agree on that! Using those cartridges for the N64 was a very bad idea.

[@nngnnadas]

how DS is a tangent? It's arguably the bluprint for any mario kart going forward. For instance Double dash didn't avoid retro trucks because only DS codified them. I guess you mean in raw graphics but that's a given on an handheld.

[@ExSiegfried]

I still remember playing super mario kart in the snes with my friends as a kid then i was mario kart 64 and the same with every new mario kart and now i play mario kart 8 deluxe in the switch with my daughters and man time sure flies.

[@BlazeHedgehog]

Super Mario Kart isn't actually running at 60fps. It's **refreshing** at 60fps, but the split screen view requires them to pull off a bit of a trick: The SNES can only render one Mode 7 view point. Since Super Mario Kart is ALWAYS split screen, even in singleplayer, what this means is that it has to alternate updating the top view and the bottom view on every other frame. What this means is that while the game itself is running at 60fps, each view (top and bottom) can only display at half of that any given time (30fps). As the story goes, that's what deterred Nintendo from making a two-player version of F-Zero. F-Zero's full-screen singleplayer presentation allowed for real 60fps, but with splitting the view in half for two player, they needed to slow the game down for the reduced framerate and decided to turn it in to its own separate franchise. Sorry; it just kind of bugged me when he complained that Mario Kart Super Circuit and Konami Krazy Racers "only" ran at 30fps and how much "better" Super Mario Kart was at 60. (Similarly, I'm pretty sure Mario Kart DS also does not run at a locked 60; it might in an emulator, but I think the framerate drops to 30 on some of the busier tracks on real hardware. it's hard to tell)

[@Tasso-d2]

Oh god I love MARIO kart so much, loving this type of content keep it up DF. Ignore all the raging Sony fanboys that don’t have solid exclusives like Nintendo has.

[@rad6666]

Super Mario Kart 92 has never been topped.

[@JosePlays_]

Impressive and entertaining video!! Do more!

[@TorreyBraman]

This is a great youtube video. So refreshing

[@telemaster]

Great vid - thanks Tom!

[@IamNOVAone]

Was hoping for DF retro but this is good too.

[@the13th]

Mario Kart to me is world question the next racing franchise available today. Has been since the N64 for me. Purely on a fun perspective as opposed to the simulation perspective on other platforms

[@Usuallynottaken]

Minor correction: Diddy Kong Racing was released "a few months" after MK64, not "a few years".

[@darkflamemaster2454]

Can't wait mario kart 9

[@albertomiura]

i think the next entry will be more hardcore for sure. expect to see some crazy ideas from the new generation of designers at nintendo

[@soulnystasego792]

One of my favorite franchises. A reason to buy every single console by Nintendo.

[@Cwiiis]

Worth mentioning that the n64 didn't quite do bilinear filtering, it actually used a novel 3-sample filtering technique, which explains the diamond-like artifacts you get at oblique angles. Also worth mentioning the interesting edge anti-aliasing that the Nintendo DS did. Both features are primary reasons emulated footage looks so different to the real thing.

[@steveothehulk]

Will we get a switch specific Mario kart ?

[@Markchadsend]

steveothehulk Yes, just in a few years

[@djapster]

i honestly wonder how that would look. if they're gonna greatly improve upon the graphics, than they might bump down the resolution to 900p just to keep a constant 60 fps.

[@ShouldOfStudiedForTheTest]

While not officially announced, MK games reach about 10 million or more sales, so of course they are going to make a sequel.

[@hectorortiz46]

Never thought Mario kart history could be so interesting

[@HexorTube]

Great trip down memory lane

[@stonexl]

It's amazing how far technology has come in such a short period of time.

[@feiwong3634]

I played every entry and own them all, since snes and still consider the first one the best, played 1000's of hours, one of the best games of all time.

[@thisisJim85]

They should make a Mario Kart All-Stars with every Mario Kart game to date on it. Every track should be in its original state as well as a revamped current gen state. Controls should be original/current gen as well.

[@OsakaSan]

Finally a Nintendo-cetric DF Retro. I feel that dark10x would have avoided it if it depended on him.

[@WH250398]

Df retro on Resident Evil 2 on n64 please.

[@zarlitoz]

Resident Evil 2 PSX vs Resident Evil 2 N64

[@Herlock110]

On all versions, please.

[@charizardoreo]

It is amazing how they shoved all of Resident Evil 2 into one N64 cart

[@backtoklondike]

Is most likely that they will do Resi 1 and the remake before RE2 and when they do they will talk about all the ports and not just N64. But it would be a great video, RE2 on N64 is one of the most impressive ports of all time.

[@miguelhacependejadas850]

Moiz Jafferji fuk

[@supermonkeyape007]

i wonder how much more the visuals of Mario kart can improve. Mario Kart 8 already looks incredible...how could they make Mario Kart 9 look drastically better than that?

[@parazels83]

The combination of 2d and 3d graphics in Mario Kart 64 looks surprisingly impressive.

[@AuntieAliasing]

"All pickles here are used to show the game action!" Lol

[@TylerNessss]

Great video!

[@Prowlgmail]

Funny you put this video up. Past week been playing my old Mario kart for snes. Bought a clone console just so I could play my old snes games. Yeterday was even doing battle mode with my neighbor and his girl and son.

[@leftyfourguns]

I never actually noticed that split screen detail about Super Mario Kart despite playing it since it came out

[@wetw0rk14180]

Great video, Tom. :)

[@DecadentPimp]

How did you guys capture the N64 footage? Looks really clean!

[@rodrigomartinez8115]

DecadentPimp maybe its the wii virtual console

[@dark1x]

Most of the footage is from Virtual Console running at 640x480. The footage used during the frame-rate analysis, however, I capture for Tom from a real N64 which runs at a lower resolution (320x240). VC increases the resolution of N64 games.

[@DevinMoney]

I'm that butthole who saves a star in first place.

[@theinsfrijonds]

Devin Money hopefully you're not playing a Hardcore Mario Kart where a shell can make you drop that

[@DevinMoney]

theinsfrijonds and someone takes that? Nah as soon as I hear something or a player come near me I activate it.

[@DANNYonPC]

Nice video! Could you do something like this for the Battlefield serie?

[@dexthegamer3234]

DANNYonPC they should do this for a whole bunch of series :D

[@batmangovno]

DANNYonPC It's not that intetesting and you can find DF tech comparisons of all Battlefield games since Bad Company if you want to. Battlefield was mostly PC back in the day.

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

with certain games its less interesting, because the changes are more visual than tech related battlefield has always been a 3d shooter etc

[@BlitzvogelMobius]

There are huge differences between each of the different Battlefields when grouped together by their respective engines.

[@WH250398]

It would be funny to do on Call of duty because jack shit has changed between new games lol

[@mariotaz]

Snaking through is what made MKDS the best in the series

[@Quast]

Trying to remember when I've seen the last 3D sprites for main characters in a AAA game. Maybe 2002 or 2003!?

[@diffidentiary]

Double Dash isn't "cel-shaded" in any way