I used my OLED monitor for 1,223 hours

So is my OLED monitor still doing well? Or does it have visible burn-in artefacts? Did the maximum brightness decrease? And what about the colors?
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[@sannikbej]

that PHub retention on the screen of the thumbnail is just :perfect 😂 😂

[@m.d404]

4 real i did not See it until you told me 😂😂😂😂

[@kaizasoze3954]

lol i had to go looking for it, at first i thought you were kidding but then spotted it

[@Exodim]

no it's cringe

[@loki76]

You've used it for 3.3 hours a day. Not exactly a lot. If you'd see any problems at that extremely low hour count then it would be a big problem.

[@paulcox2447]

This!

[@sadasd-n2f]

Yeah he is basically saying "I did proper usage of the oled monitor for 1200 hours and I saw no burn in!"

[@whiskizyo2067]

exactly. 1000 hours? only 1 year? what a waste of time

[@NicolasSilvaVasault]

3 hours is freaking nothing lmao, i remember when i used to play 1 hour a day because i had to do homework, now people these days play almost 6 to 8 hours a day

[@minimaann]

I have an Dell Alienware AW3423DW and did buy it right after launch date - it does an run matiance program every 1500 hours and it did it the 3 time last week so around 4500 hours and so far 0 issues about burn in with this model - best screen I have ever owned without a doubt.

[@moc5661]

Using monitors for as long as some of us do nowadays we should be worried about our eyes developing burn-in 😂

[@Stackali]

except the light outside is brighter.

[@giofurla]

@@Stackaliyeah but we look at monitors with no pause for too long

[@peterbonnema8913]

So that's why I permanently see a taskbar....

[@callmemrdee]

The problem here is the distance from monitor to our eyes. Also, there was a study that confirmed we blink not that often when we watch something on monitor is especially play game. And blinking is very important for eyes

[@Azraenore]

I see what you did there

[@gordonfreeman9733]

I was about to look for a comment like this, but it was the first one 🤣🤣🤣

[@Jaie55]

I do not get it

[@genocidehero9687]

​@@Jaie55 fake pornhub logo burn in

[@SkayZ40]

​@@Jaie55Look closer at the thumbnail

[@FeTetra]

he been on there a bit too long 💀

[@TheJubess]

this is the type of content we need. Im so on the brink of buying oled but I work from home 3 days a week. (so not even fulltime). besides that I game about 11-20 hours per week. this kind of video makes me feel more easy to use it for both office and gaming. I rarely use anything without dark mode so I feel confident I can survive many years without disturbing image retention

[@nathanaelniklaus2981]

techless always surprises with good insights and with a high standard in his videos. I agree, he helps people making an unbiased purchase choice - sometimes it seems only one type of OLED is being covered when the focus of the hype is elsewhere. It is save to say, that if you use an OLED mindfully, we should not be too worried about premature "permanent electroluminescent layer degradation".

[@d1gw33d]

I used a LG C9 as my main monitor and content viewing device for 3 years before recently replacing it with a C3. Also work from home about half the time as well. Zero issues with burn in. Heavy usage. The C9 got moved to another room and is still rocking.

[@bricaaron3978]

There is no more dicussion to be had. My 55" LG OLED55B7A (2017) has over 10,000 hours _as a Windows PC monitor_ with _zero_ image retention. I mean literally zero during normal viewing, and negligible when examined with 5% Red, Green, and Blue slides in a pitch-black environment. And again, this is a 2017 model, which can be assumed to be inferior to later models in regard to retention. So what's the deal? What's the trick? The fact of the matter is that OLED technology is only for a person _who knows exactly why he wants OLED instead of some other tech._ This person understands that there are certain operating procedures and usage habits that must be adhered to if image retention is to be avoided, and is willing to accept this in exchange for the benefits that can not be realized without spending orders of magnitude more. First: If you do not view movies or video games/simulations in a theatre-dark environment, the OLED's major benefit --- true black --- can not even be perceived. If you view in a lighted environment, pupillary constriction will make the blacks of an OLED and LCD identical... which is worse for the OLED because all of the shadow detail _between_ the "LCD black" and true black is now invisible, or "crushed". Second: An OLED is for a person who is into maximizing immersion. In order to avoid image retention: > Remove _all_ desktop icons > Hide the Taskbar > Set the desktop background to either black or 50% white (i.e. grey). > *Make your **_standard_** OLED Light (brightness) setting very low.* On my OLED55B7A, I use '10'. The reason I chose '10' is because the ridiculous automatic brightness reduction "feature" actually _increases_ the brightness to '10' when it is set below '10', just like it spontaneously decreases the brightness to '10' when set above this value. This means that '10' is the setting at which this "feature" is effectively disabled (if not _actually_ disabled). It should be O.K. to temporarily increase the OLED Light setting when playing a game (even though it's probably not necessary when playing in the dark as one _should_ be), but it should never be increased past, say, '6'. _Brightness is the single most important variable when it comes to image retention on any type of OLED display._ > When using Windows or another OS, make sure that you don't use the same windows at the same size in the same place indefinitely. If you have certain programs with windows that you use at specific sizes, it's not hard to get into the habit of moving them to different spots every few days > Periodically examine your display in the manner indicated in the first paragraph. This will ensure that if you are doing anything wrong, or not doing enough, you can catch the problem before its visible under normal viewing circumstances. If your display _does_ accumulate any retention, the "pixel refresh" cycle will completely eliminate it, and in my experience, actually make the image better than it originally was, with more uniformity. This is the "serious" refresh cycle that is either done manually, or apparently automatically after so many "thousands?" of hours. In over 10K hours I never once activated it manually (I did not see the need), but it did automatically occur at least once that I know of, and the results genuinely impressed me. If an OLED is taken care of, there may or may not be retention that comes and goes, depending upon your usage. But the point is that there should not be any _accumulation_ of retention. It should all average out.

[@BlueWorld93]

@@d1gw33d Same here: Hv been using my LG B9 for far more than 10.000 hours over last 3 years. I studied with it during lockdown, wrote hundreds of documents and some thesis on it, and ofc I gamed alot on it. I use it for media consumption as well... and I gotta tell you, ZERO BURN IN. This thing runs 6 - 10 hours a day and the only thing I did against burn in was using the display in energy saving mode during "working hours". Always gaming @full brightness in HDR. I love this display. And for me personally, the display is not to dark to work with in its Energy-Saving-State. Greetings from Germany

[@nathanaelniklaus2981]

@@bricaaron3978 Thanks for the long post. Regarding the desktop background, could you just use a moving Wallpaper Engine background as well? With all the points I see one important takeaway, which is the brightness setting. The brightness at 70% with the new displays is more than enough (for me at least) and should contribute to longlivety.

[@jeremias244]

nice thumbnail xD

[@brimstonesdadwide]

I wish I lasted that long

[@reptarien]

It honestly is the reason I watched lol

[@fufu1405]

7.5 hours a week is a joke, we have to be honest. We can all agree, vast majority of people who end up researching monitors and go into the nitty gritty of oled burn in are not playing 7.5 hours a week... you could triple that and even then we'd be at the minimum.

[@gpfhantom1890]

I have used the same Monitor for 3151 hours and I have had two instances where the pixels just got stuck, there was a red line, the second one just happened last week. All I had to do was a manual image cleaning from the Monitor's settings and it was good as new. No Visible Burns in whatsoever and it just runs perfectly.

[@gpfhantom1890]

@@rayquazahere8529 yeah, if you got something working for you and you are fine with it, I'd just stick to it, more OLED Monitors are flooding the Market and their prices should start to become more competitive and little less pricey

[@robbay8610]

Yeah. That response time is crazy

[@RAZGR1Z]

I've used mine for 1877 hours and have had no issues. No burn in or image retention. I let the monitor do it's image cleaning and refresh programs every time it promps.

[@bren.r]

@@RAZGR1Zhow often does is prompt? Seems like that could be disruptive mid use

[@severgun]

daily... about a year... 1223/365 = 3.35h per day... That is no usage at all.

[@WSS_the_OG]

I know exactly what you mean about burn-in anxiety, and compulsively switching off the monitor even if you're leaving for just a few minutes. Haha. Very nice update, thank you!

[@mvvpro8688]

My 2018 LG OLED television with approximately 15,000 hours of use is now littered with artifacts including a bright green logo in the right top of the screen (visible in any orange, red or brown background) and some faint grey logos in the middle left (only vaguely visible in very specific situations). Of course that's an older generation and not a PC monitor, but I would be hesitant about buying an OLED monitor with a 3 year burn-in warranty.

[@NeseComedy]

I've used an LG C1 as a Monitor from January 2022 til October 2023, since I'm quite addicted and also did home office from it, it was on for like 10-14h per day on average (yes, it hurts to type these numbers...), so probably over 8000h in total (speaking of active use time with content displayed) I had a screensaver set to black that kicked in after 10 minutes of inactivity, and screen-off after 30 minutes, just for the rare case that I forget about it. I really didn't care for the panel at all lol, even disabled the annoying auto dimming in the service menu, had a static task bar and my browser window in the same place every single day. Really the only good thing I did for it was that I left it below 25% brightness all the time because I just can't stand bright screens. So... This shouldn't sound like I recommend treating your OLED screen as terribly as I did, but I really can't find any sign of Burn in whatsoever, even on 100% brightness with these special test images for different color combinations. But I guess it's possible that my 100% brightness isn't what it used to be, after all those automatic pixel refreshes that happen after 4h use time once you turn off the screen. But 100% brightness is still WAAAAAY to bright for me, so even if that's the case, it won't matter for me for a long time, something else will probably die before that.

[@aperson1157]

This matches my own experience of using a 48C1 for over 7500 hours now. I disabled the protections because I found them annoying when using it as a monitor. I have HDR enabled at all times in Windows, but the SDR content brightness is at 0/100 (80 nits) because I get headaches from looking at an overly-bright screen all day. No signs of uneven wear/burn-in so far. The only thing I do is set a 4 hour sleep timer when I switch it on, so the short compensation cycles (6 minutes) can run on-schedule. And I'll delay putting the screen on standby if that happens to be an inconvenient time. But I shouldn't be sitting for that long without taking a break to walk around anyway.

[@JohnSmith-oh9ux]

Same stuff. Jan 2022 65C1, 6000hrs in, nothing.

[@bybod]

Do you use programs with dark or ligth mode? Maybe that affects too along with the limited brightness

[@NeseComedy]

@@bybod mostly yes, but that should make the wear of white text in theory even more uneven than bright backgrounds

[@maozedowner5915]

Wow that sounds a lot my use scenario. I'm just like you who doesn't touch grass and also work from home. I also hate bright screens so I set every monitor I got to 0% brightness. However that's just about 2 years of usage. I expect a monitor like this to last me at least 5 years preferably 10. I'll still stick to LCD for now, until I can get a massive boost of performance with a new graphics card, I'll be observing.

[@silverwerewolf975]

7.5hs average PER WEEK ?? 😂😂 Maybe per 2 days, go tell that people to do the research all over again

[@astreakaito5625]

I used my C1 (with the stronger WBE panel) exclusively for gaming at minimum brightness and after a year I already had traces of burn-in in the lower grey range. It's not visible in normal usage but it's defo burn-in. And sticking my nose in I can still see faint lines. So I'd never use OLED for productivity.

[@jaimem1788]

Yeah he most definitely got some traces at lower range cuz that's just how OLED works and certain pixel degrade faster than others tho TV algorithm supposed to account for that and Apple uses custom one for it's OLED phones. But average person won't notice but I would since I"m pretty OCD about things like right now I got a small section on upper left that looks like shadow and not sure how long it's been there but now that I noticed it see it all the time! luckily it's at corner tho can ignore most the time LOL

[@tszyn]

Thank you for posting this test, but 1223 hours over 365 days is just 3.3 hours a day - this is nothing! I use my display for work, communication and entertainment and it's on for 8-10 hours a day. I think an OLED wouldn't last 6 months with me. Too bad there aren't any good miniLED options.

[@3000TonnenKoala]

My usecase is 10 hours of screen on time a day, so 1200 hours would be a mere 4 months for me. I guess I still stay with "only use my OLED Monitor for gaming and fullscreen vids and leave basically every other application far away from it". I plan to use my OLED monitor for a few years and I don't want to risk permanent retention shadows on it after a year (which would be triple the amount of general usage as demonstrated by techless). Still, I do like to see real life experiences with OLED screens like shown in this video

[@watchmanstate9212]

There is a study going on that shows static content on tv's given "normal" cycles allowing them to clear their screen shows that it takes about 3000-5000 hours to get burn in. And thats like... the same static image, constantly, like 20hrs a day...

[@Jimster481]

I have the same monitor and no issues with it at all. I basically just use it for gaming in FPS games on HDR. No burn in at all.

In short: OLED in 2023/2024 is way better than the original iterations that came out a decade ago. So don't worry about burn in guys.

[@Shini1984]

8 hours a week? Average "gamer"? Probably, if you consider people who play 1 minute a month as "gamers". Anyways, thanks for sharing your experience.

[@roberttrisca8210]

maybe they added the " 50 % " of female " gamers " who click on farmtown or w.e on facebook every now and then .

[@Germanbattle83]

This is a VERY useful video considering how new OLED monitors still are and burn in is the n1 fear everyone has.

[@Dhruv-qw7jf]

Burn in wouldn't be such a big concern for everyone if OLED monitors weren't super expensive.

[@Aggnog]

It really isn't. 1200 hours is nothing. It doesn't prove or disprove anything at all about OLED monitors.

[@FrancisSyCoCo]

so should I stick with my ips Aorus ad27qd ?

[@Germanbattle83]

@@FrancisSyCoCo personally I am never going back from OLED, I never had an IPS, i had VA before but, OLED is just another level of color accuracy and contrast.

[@Germanbattle83]

@@Aggnog well your comment proves you dont really know what ur talking about... Considering how new and unused OLEDs are as of right now, 1200h usage feedback is actually very valuable. You wanna know whats entirely useless? pointing fingers saying "thats wrong" without having any better answer or solution.

[@ozzi_tech]

Thanks for this kind of update. I'm just thinking about buying a QD-OLED 4K monitor presented at CES 2024 for daily use (tasks and usage scenario are very similar to yours).

[@zoopa9988]

You may have already purchased something but I would like to warn you about Samsung. Their HDMI 2.1 ports don't seem to work. It never worked for my 2020 Q95T and it also doesn't seem to work properly for 2023 models like the QN90C. If you don't care about 4K@120Hz/fully utilizing HDMI 2.1 you're fine but if you want 4K@120Hz with HDR, 10 bit, etc. Than you might wanna go a different route.

[@ozzi_tech]

​@@zoopa9988 I'm still in the process of choosing, now I'm testing the monitor from MSI MPG 321URX. So far, the impressions are positive, but it is strange that only one HDMI 2.1 cable is included in the package, there is no DP or USB-C cables.

[@ОлегЖданов-ъ1д]

1200h is nothing for a pc monitor. Literally four months, not even half a year.

[@ognaim]

Thats subjective. Depends on how much a person is using the monitor

[@kirasama1718]

You mean 10h a day avg isn’t a lot?

[@ОлегЖданов-ъ1д]

@@kirasama1718 That's quite a bit, literally the bare minimum for a monitor: 6-8 hours for work, 2-4 hours for gaming/serials/rest. I've had monitors running ~15 hours a day for years, for example.

[@Youheardwhatisaidho]

@@ОлегЖданов-ъ1дbrother you need to touch grass

[@rain8478]

My first 144hz is a decade old asus tn panel and its still fine. 1200h is n o t h i n g.

[@GoodboiOfficial]

Currently clocking 1310 hours on the exact same monitor and no issues so far :)

[@TheCabIe]

No offense, but I don't know why do people even mention stats like this... Like, YEAH, I would fucking hope that 1500 hours into using a ~1000$ product, it hasn't gotten any defects yet. 1500 hours of, for example, 8 hours a day usage is about HALF A YEAR. 4 hours a day (which is more reasonable) is still just around a year. That should be a given minimum expectation, not something to celebrate, no? This sounds somewhat like saying "hey, I'm 30 years old and I haven't had a heart attack yet, I'm doing great!'. I'm thinking about getting an OLED, but It's just kinda weird to me when people even bother mentioning these, well, rookie numbers and seem to act as if that's somehow a positive result? Or is good OLED lifespan just supposed to be a few years and people buying them replace their monitors every 1.5-2 years and are happy if it lasts that long? Basically that means you're rich and that's fine if you have the money to experience top notch visual quality but is that the expectation I should have or what?

[@GoodboiOfficial]

@@TheCabIe Yes I do replace my monitor about every 2 years yeah. And as he said in the video: people buying Oled rn are basically beta testers because nobody knows how long they last and OLED is just organic, so ofc it is deteriorating over time. Thats the downside of having the best picture quality

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

@@TheCabIe I have like 5.000+ hours of pc usage, mostly gaming on a C9 from 2019, with full brightness and no sign of burn-in. Never even seen retention. I am not worried at all about burn-in at this point. LCD has tons of issues on day one so I'd rather have a small risk of burn-in than settling with terrible image quality on day one.

[@Death_Saved]

it comes out to 3.5 hours a day, which is not very useful for me but thank for sharing.

[@lukespatola1184]

Luckily i play games mostly at night and my eyes are very sensitive to light meaning i never have a monitor above 30 brightness. Definitly looking out for that 480hz panel dropping late this year

[@NoverianSnowCone]

I wish the VRR brightness flicker would be properly addressed. All marketing and reviewers act like it doesn't exist. Luckily, it's something that you tend to see in loading screens but it can be seen in dark scenes where the FPS is jumping all over the place. I know this can be overcome by disabling G-Sync, but I'd rather not do that.

[@Simon_Denmark]

Agreed, I don’t think that I’ve even seen Tim (Monitors unboxed) mention it in any way.

[@maegnificant]

​@@Simon_Denmarkhe did

[@Simon_Denmark]

@@maegnificant Ah could you tell me the video title?

[@maegnificant]

@@Simon_Denmark it's one of the gsync vs freesync ones

[@dampintellect]

I got mine back close to release January 2023. And I have 2615 hours on it at 100% brightness, contrast 60, black stabilizer 0, sharpness 100. As far as I can tell there is no issues with the monitor by looking at it. With a grey background there isn't anything I can see that looks like a burnt in image.

[@Niyazi-01]

OLED monitors are the next anxiety source that I don't need in my life. Trying to avoid leaving static content on the monitor all the time in my subconsciousness sounds terrible.

[@Niyazi-01]

@@ceciliacole5098 Yeah that's where the issue is. If I'm using a monitor, thoughts like "damn, did i left the monitor with max brightness?" should never come to my mind. I'm sorry but these issues will never go away with OLEDs until they start giving 10 year burn-in warranty then I would buy one without a second thought.

[@whedii1544]

I have this monitor for about 6 months with 1200 hours, LG27GR95QE-B, i have used it for playing MMO's such as WOW/FFXIV with static user interface, I tried running these color videos and sadly there is a little bit of image retention that does not go away with either of Image or pixel cleaning, i wasn't having pixel shifting on and brightness was always at 100%. So if you really want to play MMOs with an OLED try hiding the user interface as much as you can if you don't use it. Also avoid having brightness at 100% for SDR, 70% will be around 100 nits which is more than enough and make sure to toggle on pixel shifting. Nevertheless, The image retention is only visible with a bright white screen and it's very minor and not and not noticeable in games or movies. The monitor still looks as beautiful as it is on Day 1 😘

[@juanblanco7898]

I also have some permanent image retention on my ~5 years old OLED, and it's only barely noticable in some rare circumstances. And even then, despite my quite severe OCD, having noticed it I forget about it almost immediately since the image quality is still simply so stunning. When after using OLED for 4,5 years I got myself an IPS monitor as an auxiliary all-purpose display I though it was defective out of the box. Sold it off after a year since I just couldn't get used to it no matter what. Looked dismal and caused some noticable discomfort/eye strain to me as well. Honestly, this sucks since I can no longer afford an OLED these days.

[@m.cemilozkaya]

Thank you for all your amazing contents. It is always very informative and not boring. Keep up the good work.

[@Amfibios]

the fact that we're discussing if there's permanent damage to a monitor that was used 3-4 hours a day for 1 year showcases the issue of using an OLED monitor by itself. i've had monitors being used for ~15 hours a day for more than a decade with no real issues.

[@lukiohearn173]

Can you hear the fan on the Monitor?

[@Harzexe]

I'm not a person who have a patience to bother about monitor safety - I like keeping my ips monitors turned on for longer and I don't want to change wallpapers, icons lay out and hide the task bar. I use my pc for about 5 hours per day on avarage but it happens that I do much longer sessions (up to 12 hours). If there is risk of burn in just after 1-2 years of intense usage it's a huge No No for me. Monitors should last at least 4-5 years if not much longer. That's why I appreciate all these tests because I wouldn't want to regret a purchase that is so expensive 🙏 I'm planning on switching to 1440p this or next year but I'm not in a hurry and might choose an IPS panel instead. Gonna be patient and wait for technology to develop a bit more. These OLEDs are still far from perfect. Would be cool to see MicroLED monitors one day...

[@Swisshost]

I have the same 1080p screen since 11 years, time to upgrade next year.

[@thecwwshow8036]

Personally I’m only going to to get an oled with burn-in warranty. Cause I want to abuse the monitor

[@lemonke5341]

@@Swisshost 11 years is crazy

[@Swisshost]

@@lemonke5341 It really is, looks like I have just luck. My entire PC is 11 years old too and runs just fine, only change I made is SDD and GPU. i7 4770k just don't want to die

[@megapet777]

I mean yeah normal ips, tn monitor and anything that is not oled probably lasts for decades.

[@khvichamakadze2903]

Much needed video/update on usage of OLED monitor!

[@seallyastrologer8776]

My God, I thought the thumbnail said 1223 hZ. I must've missed a giant leap in technology

[@wargamingrefugee9065]

What?!? Everybody knows the human eye cannot can't see beyond a refresh rate higher than 1221Hz, everybody know that. :-P

[@AlexTheSimple]

Good video for people worried about OLED burn in. C2 here with 4165 hours, all as main monitor on PC. No screen saver, often forgot to close windows on it when I leave the house. Hide the taskbar and use dark mode, 60% brightness. No signs of burn in or retention on any full screen color tests.

[@vcarter86]

i have been using my C1 from 2021 august for more than !!!11000!!! hours already because i work on this and also watch films, play games etc. sot it pretty much runs 12-15 hours a day. And i have got lots of burn-in already. It started about 2 month ago and now it became worse and worse quicker than ever. It was good until i reached the 9000-10000 hours usage threshold.

[@Varmint260]

I've been using an LG C2 as my monitor for six months. Taskbar on auto-hide and a dark background with two icons, one of which is a screensaver shortcut that I use whenever I step away for a few minutes. I suspect I use the C2 much more than 8 hours per week and play multiple games with very bright and static UI elements. I have not had issues with any image retention so far.

[@justspaztik]

I want an OLED so bad, but I do NOT want to babysit it. I'm not too keen on trying to make sure I vary my content just for the sake of pixels burning in.

[@mileskt9232]

My alienware 34 oled has been used like an ips panel and dont give a crap and leave it on and full brightness and dont care. Been a couple years now and no issues with brightness or burn in. Works amazing

[@piereligiodisante]

Suggestion: if you're into setting up things, consider setting up a Home Assistant server with a motion sensor near your desk. You can automate the screen turning off and on (and even the PC in standby and auto wake up, if you wish. I do this without motion sensor, I set it up with google assistant)

[@LeJimster]

I've been running a 27" / 1440p / 144Hz IPS screen for several years now. I'm looking at getting an equivalent size OLED monitor and this years MLA panels with improved RGB layout could be the one. The pricing is a little steep however. You could buy a 48" or larger OLED tv for the same price these monitors are going for.

[@Iscandelt]

~10-12h per work day, Work from Home + some gaming/studying/watching videos etc. My almost 3y Acer IPS 27" have over 8k hours in total. I really doubt that OLED is suited for such a use (with static content and very bright room) so I really can't switch even though I was thinking about it.

[@perceptivity_]

microLED is where it is for us man

[@Iscandelt]

@@perceptivity_ Any interesting 34" ultrawides microleds comming this year?

[@perceptivity_]

@@Iscandelt no sadly

[@Iscandelt]

@@perceptivity_ :(

[@zoopa9988]

I'm at ~12K hours with my 77" LG G1 and I haven't had issues with burn-in yet, I've never manually pixel refreshed my display. My OLED Pixel Brightness has mostly been at 0% though with black stabilizer set to 20 (max) Taskbar auto hides, desktop wallpaper is black, mouse pointer is black with a white outline, and I've barely ever forgotten to turn it off but the PC goes to sleep in like 5 minutes anyways making the display show a no signal message before turning itself off.

[@hamsterspeed]

The same monitor was used for 5310hrs with zero burn-in. I use it for both productivity and gaming.

[@Midhun_956]

What about oled laptops? There are many out there, what about the software support and everything

[@MathieuMette]

1200 hours is really nothing with these new oleds you should wait at least 5000 hours to do a video but the 10K hours on use will be more interesting

[@RocketLR]

ffs.. Oled desktop monitor.. Bruh, i code during day and game at night.. Why tf would i want to feel more stress while coding over my static things things on display like documentation or other code snippets.. Try using it 12h a day and see how it holds up.

[@Ivyticrea]

The hub in the thumbnail 💀

[@nomeycom]

Have this monitor since launch and have 2491 hours of total power on time. The windows task bar is not set on auto hide (yes, I knew the risk) and I have no burn in or other problems with the monitor (except windows HDR things). Using the monitor most of the time with 0 % brightness except when I play Tarkov

[@paul_wiggin]

LG oled has proven to be more reliable than LCD panels. Recent stress tests show that LCD panels degrade a lot, and Mini-LED backlight suffers from degradation as well. OLED only suffers from extreme usage with exactly the same static elements left there for years.. ehich js a completely unrealistic scenario.

[@ludiqpich198]

@techless i have a great deal on this monitor(lg 27gr95qe) right now , did they fix inverse ghosting with firmware ??

[@shoppster300]

I work from home for 10 hours a day, then game an average of 4 or 5 more. At least 15 hours a day. I also use my PC overnight for rendering. I would hit 5000 hours in my first year and two thirds of that would be with static app elements from my CAD software on screen. I'm about to drop the cash on one of the new 32 inch 240hz OLEDS. Should be interesting to see how they handle a super heavy duty cycle. Luckily they have a 2 year warranty..

[@Himsag1]

I've used mine for 2995 hours and its going strong, mostly gamed and unemployed for most of its life.

[@jumbocube]

I used this monitor now for 24 hours and i decided to return it. I paid around 600 USD for it and i dont feel like i got my worth. Paying a premium for a LOT of annoying things, like all the pixel care things. As I;m writing this my screen shited 1 pixel two times already. And I feel bad if i turn off a OLED care feature. Oh and Yellow pixels always have this chromatic abberation very visible so it just doesnt look like proper 2K. And the monitor flickers like crazy sometimes. I would stay away from oled for now.

[@SonicDestiny]

that is awfuly low, My monitor get used over 4500 hours in single year.

[@TheFibie007]

Nice video. Thanks for the insight. However, I am afraid that all this is non-telling as 1.2k hours is nothing. Also, there is not enough data to evaluate how continuous use is affecting burn-in. Are two days per week of 9 to 5 the same as ~2h every day per week? People expect to use their monitors for multiple 10k hours. 1k without problems is the bare minimum, really. I would like to have another video like this in two years.

[@TzeroX]

Used mine for 2384 hrs now, it runs atleast 4 hours during night when watching series or letting youtube run in the background. During weekends 16-18 hours nonstop, during work days about 8-10 hrs. I got 2 Settings, one for gaming and one more relaxing / Homeoffice friendly Brightness: 100 / 70 Contrast 70 / 50 Sharpness 60 / 50 Gamma: Mode 1 / Mode 3 Color Temp: Manual C6 (might gonna change this a bit lower as it can be ungentle on the eyes) / Warm Didn't bother touching the Colors Deep Sleep Mode: On Automatic Standby: 4H Screen Move: Mode 2, sometimes Mode 3 when i feel like it

[@ralithorn3798]

I'm not wasting any money on an OLED monitor until the burn issue has been resolved.

[@TheAsmileXD]

great video and good to see more burn in tests being done. So far this confirms what rtings has already found out and that being that WOLED Panels are harder to burn in than QD-OLED Panels most likely due to the extra white sub pixel. I do wonder how well one of those new 3rd Gen QD-OLEDs would do under the same conditions.

[@adrogrossz]

im just saying, if its going to burn in, thats no issue, here's my reasoning :D only static images could burn in so that means you wont even notice it, because ure using it that way. Just like wearing clothes, if your image is that static for a whole year, that means youre using the computer like that, that means it wont be even a problem for you. Maybe mine has burn ins i dont even know about I am using my G8 on the lowest brightness because its enogh for me, on IPS you had to go way higher because of the viewing angles and the contrast. You dont have to worry about ghosting and input lag, or i choose fast response time over ghosting etc. You can say other panels have advantages but oled panel still has more.

[@charlesthegreat8645]

You pay so much just to babysit this thing because it can have 1000 issues. That's idiocy.

[@FeistyLemur]

"Average gamer 7 hours per week" Who's gonna tell him?

[@mechanicalmonk2020]

Whoever explains averages to you first

[@Thunderhawk51]

Well, if you have to go to work every day you can probably only play like 1 hour per day if even that. Meanwhile some people could easily play 7 hours per day. Or more. Not to mention leave/forget the computer on for days. This test seems pretty mild. A monitor should last for at least a decade, not couple years. I have no trust in OLEDs yet. They are going to burn in sooner rather than later. Just look at your phone and there will probably be burn-ins already. The keyboard, clock, battery %, game interface, and so on.

[@Thunderhawk51]

Well, if you have to go to work every day you can probably only play like 1 hour per day if even that. Meanwhile some people could easily play 7 hours per day. Or more. Not to mention leave/forget the computer on for days. This test seems pretty mild. A monitor should last for at least a decade, not couple years. I have no trust in OLEDs yet. They are going to burn in sooner rather than later. Just look at your phone and there will probably be burn-ins already. The keyboard, clock, battery %, game interface, and so on.

[@Fridge_Fiend]

Someone spending this much money on a monitor probably isn't an "average" gamer. More likely looking at 4+ hours a day

[@warweeny5127]

using an oled for 3,5 hours a day is not straining at all, try 12 to 16 a day for actual effect.

[@evankirschenmann4653]

Your videography style reminds me of Optimum Tech. Very classy and good looking. Enjoyable video. Keep up the good work!

[@brewmonger666]

5,125 hours in my C1 48" used as a desktop monitor for WFH and gaming, zero signs of burn.

[@Simon_Denmark]

There’s going to be a refresh of 27GR95QE called 27GS95QE in February with apparently more brightness and less ABL otherwise same resolution and refresh rate. I think that everyone should go for the next gen OLED’s at this point though. I have over 300 h on my GR95QE since buying it in December. I’ll definitely try to warranty mine for the dead pixel that I noticed afterwards.

[@PhilippeCJR]

ill get oled when the text clarity if fixed...

[@Simon_Denmark]

@@PhilippeCJR Honestly that’s the last thing out of the other problems that I have. You barely even notice it unless you stare really close. VRR flicker and the coating making some colors look grainy are much worse to me.

[@despooked]

@@Simon_Denmark Does the flicker happen in certain situations like low fps?

[@Simon_Denmark]

@@despooked It’s mostly when FPS fluctuates a lot and also depends what’s happening on the screen which I can’t really pinpoint for you. LG even has a notice on the VRR that flickering may occur in certain gaming environments.

[@dampintellect]

it is fixed in a lot of other operating systems, just not windows.

[@jonnysmith549]

I have had my Alienware AW3423DW since Oct 2022. It has been used daily for at least 3 hours even up to 48 hours sometimes. But about 6 hours on average would result in about 3200 hours of usage so far. Unfortunately i was not paying as much attention as i should and had the taskbar enabled and just started noticing darker spots on dark grey loading screens where the icons are at. At closer investigation on a plain grey screen the most noticable is the 21:9 to 16:9 difference since i have been watching lots of videos. The seperation is clearly visible there but not on any other color. As soon as any pictures are shown its all gone though. I still love the view every day and cant wait to use Alienwares guarantee to replace the burnin within 3 years after purchase. So basically next year i will have a new panel for free ^^

[@Stoogie]

I couldn't tolerate this monitor within 1-2 minutes my eyes and brain started to hurt, hours and it was massive pain, i used it for 12 hours tried everything and the pain lasted 1 week upon discontinuation, it is individual sensitivity to the DC Dimming brightness flickering at the frequency of 240hz (10% brightness drop flicker(at 100% brightness), 25% brightness drop flicker(at 50% brightness), 33% brightness drop flicker (at 0% brightness)), so yes even if it doesn't have OLED PWM 10% of people still suffer from eye fatigue/pain and migraines. You could assign this DC Dimming values to the IEEE STANDARD PAR1789 PWM chart using the frequency 240hz and the modulation % as the width of the line of lowered brightness (about 18%) , using these values you get a value a couple pixels inside of the red HIGH RISK range, bad for your eyes, or rather my eyes(it could be scotopic sensitivity, or called Irlen syndrome)

[@someasianguy8493]

I have the same monitor. I think with its conservative brightness levels, I'm gonna guess that this particular model will last a bit longer before burn-in issues arise. Also, the way that the compensation cycles are implemented by LG on their OLED TVs and this monitor is generally reliable and more robust compared to their competitors (on the TV market at least). Competing 1440p monitors like the ASUS PG27AQDM, or even QD-OLED ultrawides like the AW3423DW/AW3423DWF might suffer from burn-in a little quicker due to the higher brightness. But time will tell I guess. Unfortunately, I can't find a logo detection setting/logo brightness dimming on this monitor, which is a shame.

[@HighIgnition]

I usually use my monitor an average of 14 hours daily (work/pleasure) so in a month I'm putting a little more of 400 hours, I REALLY really wanted an OLED monitor for my last monitor purchase, but spending quite a bit more than $1000 USD for something that has a burn in warranty of 3 years seems a lot of money per year of warranty to me, so I ended buying an IPS ultrawide LG 38" curved monitor, so far really happy with it, maybe OLED burn in is just an stigma??

[@shamba4406]

It is. Another oled user, over 2,000 hours, no burn in.

[@cal50x]

1200h is like nothing, during one year Im doing 2000h...

[@Crecross]

Oled screens arent what they used to be, they don't really "burn in" like that anymore.

[@testtube173]

I think I'd rather hear you speak your native language and supply subtitles. I wish more creators would do that.

[@ldridgley]

Tbh, I’m not overly concerned about burn in on my oled. I use it a lot, but the image cleaning, pixel shift and other burn in protocols combined with the use of MLA should mean that by the time I need a replacement panels should be considerably more affordable and resilient to burn issues. I don’t want my enjoyment of the panel to be hampered by a fear of burn in so I’m using it as freely as I did my previous IPS monitor. Brightness is set to 100% for hdr content and 70% for sdr. I do turn the screen off if I’m away from it for more than several minutes and have the screen saver settings activated. I have a laptop for productivity work so the screen is only utilised for gaming and the occasional video playback. The picture quality gains more than make up for the shortened lifespan of the panel imo.

[@falkiiii030]

I use Win + R when I pause my game and leave my desk for a while. This way it well go on standby after a short time. I am very happy with this LG OLED, too. 🎉

[@Best_Chuansatien]

Genius

[@Simon_Denmark]

Until you realize that the GPU uses +100 W in menu.

[@theendurance]

@@Simon_Denmark only europoors care about electricity costs

[@Yazon2006]

Lg panels much better in terms of burn in comparing to samsung

[@SVT_LIGHTNING]

I have over 3000k hours on my Alienware dwf 34” qd-oled. I use it over 8 hours a day for work and gaming. I skip the pixel refresh that’s required every 4 hours because it’s annoying. I do one pixel refresh a day. Have done 3 panel refreshes “just did my third a few days ago” and have zero burn in. I leave it in hdr mode 24/7 at 75% sdr brightness in windows. It’s been a tank of a monitor. I leave it on static imagines all the time for work also. It has two dead pixels but it was that way out of the box and every single monitor I’ve ever had has dead or stuck pixels so It doesn’t trigger me like it does to other people who will go to the end of the earth to get a new monitor. It’s not right I get that and agree but the return process isn’t worth a dead pixel. I rather have a dead pixel than a stuck red or green pixel. My old pos lg 34gn850 had stuck pixels and kept getting more over the years.

[@avalanche222]

3000000 hours? nice

[@SVT_LIGHTNING]

@@avalanche222 3k. 3,000. 3000k. Three thousand. Tree thousand.

[@SVT_LIGHTNING]

@elcactuar3354 don’t know what culture thinks 3000 is 3 million but okay.

[@avalanche222]

@@SVT_LIGHTNING @SVT_LIGHTNING k means "thousand" hence 1k is 1000, 10k is 10000, 3000k is 3000000.

[@monster2slayer]

1200 hours is around 100 days for me (no, i don't go outside). i'll wait for 50k hour reviews because i thats what i get out of my LCD's

[@DDHDTV]

1223 hours is not a lot at all. I'm looking at IPS black panels, but those are even more expensive.

[@cronoesify]

1200 hours isnt a lot of time bros....

[@Blafard666]

He didn't say it was a lot, he said it was the average gaming time on a 3 years period. Still interesting data ....

[@C0BEX]

8 hours a week of screen time seems quite on the low side. I think that average number of hours spent gaming a week would be much higher if the sample size of people would be large enough.

[@burkaanc]

1200 hours is barely used, i have few year old IPS monitor, that i consider not old enough for replacing with 21 000 hours

[@Valor110]

I have OLED TV from 2015 and iPhone from 2018 with OLED display and I never had nor have any issue with "burn in". People always invent things when new tech is coming out. Trust me, you won't have any issues with any OLED burn in for at least 10 years.

[@retroland9703]

How much hours can I use my ips until it dies ? Non oled ? 🤔

[@Sean-fj9pn]

More than a decade.

[@retroland9703]

@@Sean-fj9pn Impressive

[@dedskin1]

1 year , 1200 /356 , that is about 3h a day . No one that runs YT channel and edits and games does 3h PC time , no one , so please do not lie . Far as i can see these are barely if 1 year old . At that its too small 27inch , give me a break , its not even 4K , 300 nits ... i would not buy that because for same money you can get 48inch 120hz OLED TV , why go for 27 inch 240hz 300 nits , only advantage it has is 240hz , and you can achieve that in most games , nor can you notice the difference between 120hz and 240hz not even in competitive gaming , impossible . This stinks to high haven . I trust its an early test model you do display reviews and have changed i dont even count how much displays , you show very little knowledge for even having one , but that i can believe , that is common , its just for sales . And you are not the one who clocked in anything on it , maybe few hours , you got it like that , and probably dont even have it any more .

[@uhohwhy]

only 1223? nolifers clock 5000 hours in a year.

[@BeatemupMaster]

I never see a Burn in a OLED in my Life! Even Plasma TV I don't see Burn in! But the First 90s led has Burn in! Ta-Da!!!

[@TheNerd]

I have the "sister model" from ASUS, I use it 10 - 16 hrs a day (work and gaming 50/50) and I also have no retation so far. I think it's because the LG and ASUS Versions automatically do short cycle cleanups everytime the monitor is turned "off" for some time.

[@mmmmmmm3246]

The problem with this kind of video is that you are in the privileged position of not really giving a damn what happens to your monitor, because you have access to a lot new tech. For many of us, 1000 CAD is a lot of money. If I'm spending this much I don't even want burn in to be a risk at all, because not only does burn in suck, it'll be extremely hard to sell it eventually. So we can't afford to be reckless. This is a monitor I want to last for potentially 5-10 years. And maybe even sell eventually when upgrading. Sorry if I come off harsh, it's good that these screens are performing well, but honestly I would certainly hope after 1000 hours nothing was bad. Come back to me after 10,000, or 20,000 hours.

[@Scopiiii]

Its just sad that people who work, study and use their PC for most of their hobbies like me will never experience the benefit of OLEDs because it would just be dumb to buy it for us with :(

[@inspirepj4492]

As long as you don't have it on a white grid lined MAXIMUM brightness for a good 90 hours straight, you'll be fine. A lot of people mistake old OLED with newer better OLED's which have technology to prevent burn in

[@amariel3310]

1000 hours of static content isn't actually much for even a first gen monitor OLED. You may start seeing something after 4000 hours though.

[@GonnaBe_]

Ich liebe deine Videos 😂 wusste nicht, dass du Deutscher bist

[@DELTA9XTC]

okay ich habe innerhalb von 3 Sekunden gemerkt, dass er Deutscher ist, also hätte Geld verwettet, dass es so ist :D man hört einfach immer eine gewisse Akzent-Note raus, kann man glaub machen, was man will. Man muss wahrscheinlich mehrere Jahre wirklich nur Englisch reden, damit das irgendwann so gut wie weg ist haha ist das erste Video von ihm, das mir vorgeschlagen wurde bisher und deshalb auch das erste, was ich gesehen habe. Guter erster Eindruck!

[@wii1mii]

Considering that im using my monitor on average 12h/day if not more. With 1/3 of the time spent gaming and rest doing work. My current 1440p 27" Asus ROG SWIFT PG278Q monitor has served me for close to 10 years. I dont even want to think how many hours have I racked up. However im I do have 3-4 dead pixels and the TN pannel is rather a yesterdays tech. So now I still cannot decide if I should go for newly announced QD-OLED monitor from MSI (MAG 271QPX/MPG 271QRX) or IPS (MPG 272QPX). Kind of want OLED screen, but with the usage amount I feel like it wont last me too long.

[@ruslanayaz5053]

Hey man, did you end up buying OLED? I have the same questions because most of my time I code.

[@wii1mii]

@@ruslanayaz5053 Nop, still in the eternal dilemma about it.😅

[@StrangerHappened]

*A WARNING:* The lad got it good only because he has got a “cheap” “dim” OLED. Newer brighter ones are much, much worse (with QD-OLED being even worse still). Also, if god forbid your room suffers from sunlight through windows, it will definitely generate nasty burn-ins even on the lads’ monitor because you must to keep the brightness at maximum. The conclusion is to NOT buy it for work. Buy it for video and games with only a little bit of “productivity”.

[@kitzyowo1319]

I think I prob have like 500-600 hours in 2 months on my alienware aw3423dwf , I try to take care off it... But with nvidia's SDR video to HDR, I basically have HDR 1000 nits on all the time... I don't have static elements on as much, and try to use zoom to fill as much as possible, but that's hard to do with *cough* totally... Legal anime sites, though amazon prime video and netflix both have 0 issues (This is due to subtitles being cropped out, it seems the latter 2 adjust for it), so the sides tend to get less use then the center... It's gonna be interesting to see how it holds up overtime, luckily a 3 year burn in warranty should cover me... Though I have heard pretty mixed reviews regarding it, and people getting send refurbished monitors of varying... Conditions

[@GinoFoto]

I have been using my CX OLED as a monitor daily since 9.4.202,1 and yeah, no signs of any deterioration whatsoever.

[@Tomiply]

I've used my OLED monitor for about 2 years, 10-12 hours a day, but I have zero burn-in. I don't even hide the taskbar, so I have no idea how you're supposed to get burn-in. You almost have to do it on purpose.

[@theendurance]

you most likely have burn in, you just havent checked for it

[@gn2727]

Give me a break. I use my monitor for gaming, then surfing internet, at night I watch movies before falling asleep. That is what I call "using" monitor, not babysitting it for 2 hours a day. I don't count hours, don't check pixels or worry about any of this stupid sh... cause I have non OLED and I just enjoy my screen without paranoia.