How to TUNE your Ryzen 7 5700X3D on ANY Motherboard!

[@techyescity]

Hey guys some comments about minus 30 being the lowest setting possible on am4. Will definitely test again in the morning as I know there was a reasonable difference between 30 and 40. Perhaps the board could be overvolting slighlty by default. Though Will look into it. Pbo2 tuner is a great program though and no harm will be done with minus settings. So nothing to fear there. All you have to fear is a crash, so just don't have anything unsaved whilst tuning.

[@Yolo_Swaggins]

If you set it to -40 the PBO2 Tuner acts like it has made it -40 but if you close the program and open it back up again you will see in reality it's only been set to -30. On my 5800X3D i have it set to -30 but on core 0 and core 2 i can only do -21 without it crashing and it's worth mentioning if you change to a new BIOS with a different AGESA version a previously stable undervolt can become unstable.

[@Raivo_K]

@@Yolo_Swaggins 5800X3D is limited to -30 i believe. Other standard models should still accept -40 even with PBO2 Tuner. PBO2 Tuner was also great for 5800X3D owners because initially AMD did not have CO in BIOS. Later when they added it, PBO2 Tuner became largely unnecessary.

[@kingeling]

Have you tested with OCCT at all??? The 57X3D SKU is clocked lower than the 58X3D and mostly consists of bad 58X3D bins so it's pretty impressive that your system is even stable with -30, let alone -50... I highly doubt that your settings will work with most 57X3D's.

[@Yolo_Swaggins]

@@kingeling I have tested in OCCT and even had the world records on it. I own the 5800X3D not the 5700X3D. The funny thing with these chips is you can be 100% stable in OCCT but you wont know if it's really stable until you let it idle in windows or use chrome browsers etc. The voltage is lowest in those scenarios and that is when the WHEA can strike if it's not getting enough voltage for the idle states.

[@ivanmiller1977]

Que tipo de refrigeración estás usando?? Gracias, saludos y exitos from spain!

[@Willbme4EVA]

That mic sounds superb. Was really refreshing to see you using Task scheduler. It was my best friend years ago, but I have been to lazy to setup for a few years now. !Cheers on another great video.

[@techyescity]

Cool, thanks!

[@ChiekoGamers]

Undervolt really makes a huge difference. My Ryzen 5 5600 reaches 80c in heavy gaming, now it barely reaches 60C and barely reaches 60watts thanks to Tech YES City for teaching me how to undervolt.

[@TheTwiix]

80c for heavy gaming on ryzen cpu if perfectly normal. those cpu are made for that

[@krosis8058]

@@TheTwiix hell nah. I used to have a R5 3600, used to get over 80c while gaming. Bought a nice cooler from cooler masters, a great thermal paste, and it stopped going up to over 45c on cyberpunk ( ultra )

[@TheTwiix]

@krosis8058 all zen3-4 are made to reach high temps with no problem. You can do some research and confrim. Of course you dont need to reach those temps

[@samserious1337]

@@TheTwiix The problem is, the clockspeed drops with higher temps. By keeping it cooler you get more performance.

[@tayfunsaral5024]

@@krosis8058 got a 3600 too, replacing thermal paste every year or so helps sooo much.

[@SyndicatesFollower]

Been rocking the 5800x3D with a B550 UD AC and 3080 FTW3 12GB for a while now, with a combo of tuned b-die, PBO2 tuner -25 all core, 102 BCLK and a hefty OC on the 3080 I took #1 (for this hw combo) in timespy and gaming is buttery at 1440p, cinebench R23 ~15.4k. Great video showing off that AM4 longevity

[@jonas000111]

We are twinning, same exact setup I have a FTW3 12gb 3080 non ti and 5800x3d. I am rocking a gigabyte auroa master mobo though. I didn't bother with BCLK but I may try a small 1 or 2 mhz bump like you. I had issues with an external drive messing with bclk OC on a previous PC that corrupted my drive so I am hesitant, now I have a nas so it doesn't matter.

[@SyndicatesFollower]

@@jonas000111 BCLK up to 102 generally works well on most B550 boards, but if you're on a X570 Master it may not work at all. My chip is pretty good and I'm trying to source a B550 unify-x since it's one of the few boards with a properly functioning clockgen, could probably do 108 and a better IF clock since it's two dimm.

[@jonas000111]

@@SyndicatesFollower Thanks for the heads up.

[@JokerPrograms]

i did it and it was so nice before tuning i got 12405 pts (max temp 82c) after tuning (-30) i got 13622 pts (max temp 72c) thank you!

[@Northkalman]

I just got a 5700x3d for like 5hours ago upgraded from a 5600 non-x. PBO2 settings tinkered and now the idle CPU power ranges from 5.4-7W @38-40C while having 5 chrome tabs and discord at the back using a Thermalright Pearless Assasin 120. Paired it with my undervolted 6800xt and runs below 60C @

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

Now I can watch Tech YES City even faster!

[@yajnalgibno6536]

The task scheduler method is a huge frickin help. Thanks

[@AnalogFoundry]

Getting an average of 13628 (3 runs) in CBR23 at -30mV air-cooled. Absolutely pleased.

[@maybebutwhatever]

Got it all the way to -45 and see no problems with OCCT. VRM temps on B450 DS3H drop almost 20 degrees. Nice Thanks for the video!

[@0MSP0]

Just upgraded from a 1600 to this bad boy :D , ty am4!

[@superjuddy]

Given the state of the CPU market, I wouldn't touch my CPU OC without a video like this. Hopefully that changes in the future. Thanks Brian.

[@arthurzampirolli]

This improved a lot my temps and performance. I'm using a ab350m-ds3h v2, a DeepCool Gammaxx 400 V2, with the 5700X 3D. The average temp without undervolting while gaming is around 70°C, but with undervolt of 30mv, temperatures decreased 5 to 10 °C. Cinebench went from 12300 to 13100 points. CPU-Z went from 5560 to 5800 points. I thank you a lot for this tip!

[@costantinonieddu9388]

May I ask what temps you have in your room? I have the same cooler (actually the V1, but it should have the same performance), and I was planning to upgrade to a 5700x3d in the next weeks. The problem is that it's summer where I live and my room usually sits around 30 C°, so I'm not sure if my current setup is gonna be enough.

[@arthurzampirolli]

@@costantinonieddu9388 It fluctuates between 16 and 25 Celsius this season. I live in Brasil by the way

[@costantinonieddu9388]

@@arthurzampirolli Thanks, I'll try with the Gammax and see, I would prefer to keep it if possible.

[@arthurzampirolli]

@@costantinonieddu9388 I think a thing that works really well for me is that i have a 120mm fan from delta(can reach about 3200RPM) on the exhaust of the case. This fan is alone, i don't have any intake fans.

[@costantinonieddu9388]

​@@arthurzampirolli Thanks for the help, I upgraded and used the Arctic MX2 thermal paste (I was using the MX 4 before), tried a cinebench 2024 run and the 5700x3d did not go over 80 °C, same as the 3600 I was using. Applying an undervolt of -30 mv on all cores also reduced the max temperatures of 5 °C, so I guess I'm fine :)

[@anthonyrizzo9043]

Cool video showing how to use that program, my 5800x3d is already undervolted from my bios, but thats a very handy program to tell people about. 😊

[@Youssef_Ben_Yedder]

so there is a way to apply all of that in the bios once im satisfied with the numbers right?

[@setone28ua]

​@@Youssef_Ben_Yedder no, bios actually didn't allow you to go under - 30. It's a limit.

[@MissCloud9]

Interesting video. 5700X3D great budget banger build.

[@BuzzTec]

Another "Tech Yes Under Volt⚡️" tip 🎉

[@Guovssohas]

Came from a 3700x to the 5700x3d about two months ago, great upgrade, much much smoother performance in gaming instantly noticeable. Undervolting was a huge benefit for me since i just slapped the good old wraith prism onto the thing. Works just fine for those wondering.

[@summoner1451]

Thanks. This was the information that i was looking for. haha

[@akamzzz1414]

How much did your rpm and temperature go down?

[@SenshiT]

i made the exact same upgrade with the trusty old wraith prism, still cant belive that beauty came as stock cooler

[@X_irtz]

Dropped from around 75C to about 67C with the 30mv undervolt on my 5700X3D on full load, definitely worth doing this.

[@TechMeldOfficial]

This program is great for mobile ryzen, i tried on a Ryzen 5 5675U and set the offset to -25 the battery life went from under 3hours to over 5hours with the same task, it is amazing

[@jaym5488]

Man i love ASRock my motherboard ASRock A320M-HDV R4.0 can support Ryzen 7 5700X3D, even in lower end motherboard ASRock still manage to give support to it

[@86FCS]

I had one, it's crazy how this mobo can handle some high-end CPUs, mine was with a Ryzen 3900 (65w model). The only reason I replaced this mobo was so I could overclock it.

[@haraskosvk]

Thank you TYC a lot for this video instruction, helped me a lot, my 5700x3d on -30 mV is stable in Cinebech r23, but unstable in OCCT extreme cpu test and in Prime95 maximum power heat test unstable too. But after I set up 5700x3d on -25mV , are all this test programms stable :). Cinebench R23 multicore result is 13700 points, and power CPU consumption 90Watts. Motherboard is Gigabyte B450 aorus and cooler Endorfy Fera 5. Before undervolting I was afraid to do test with OCCT and Prime95, because the temperatures are rising over 90 Celsius in this tests so I stoped this tests very quickly. Now after undervolting to -25 mV, are temperatures under 90 Celsius , with 100% load and long stable. Hurrra :-) I am satisfied with this procesor for this money :-). GOOOD

[@manofyeo]

I just got one from the Newegg deal for $180 and it came with 32gb of ram. I didnt really need it but the deal was too go to pass up. Now I can build a pc with my 5700x and flip it! Can't wait to try out the power of X3d.

[@Andytlp]

Wow what a deal. The ram itself probably costs 100 alone so the cpu is 80 bucks. That's nuts. Got my 5700x3d for 185 eur which is a steal in eu.

[@EthanolEnthusiast]

How is it

[@Jasontyo]

I applied a -30 in the bios and it does seem to have helped. Very cool thanks. My first undervolt.

[@shakkaka12435924]

Man you are awesome ! I cant wait to get my 5700x3d in the mail

[@johndotes]

Yo brotha, what GPU are you going to pair it with? Also, what feature in the MOBO should I be looking into? I’m planning to have this as my cpu as well. Thank you! (1080p gamer for life)

[@superior96]

​@@johndotes If you're building a system from scratch you maybe should go the am5 route and get a 7500f, costs less than the 5700x3d, will lose in some tittles, win in others but more importantly you'll be able to upgrade to 9800x3d/9700x3d or whatever in the future instead of being locked in am4 with the 5000 series. 5700x3d is a great option if you already have an older Ryzen system and you want a drop in socket upgrade, but if you're building something new (you said you're getting a motherboard as well)... Not so sure.

[@johndotes]

@@superior96 Hey, thanks for taking the time. I did get the 7500f.. I've had the build for almost a week now, no regrets :)

[@shakkaka12435924]

@@johndotes Yeah I have it with my RX 6900xt. I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3600 that my bother gave me as place holder CPU

[@neochron572]

I undervolted mine using an offset (not curve optimizer) in the BIOS, it is still stable at -100 mV offset. HWInfo shows a max voltage of 1.15V. The temperature difference is insane and the CPU now actually boosts to 4.05 GHz during an all core stresstest. Before that it would go down to 3.8 GHz during Prime95.

[@samserious1337]

I strongly disagree with setting a manual offset. You should confirm the clockspeeds with actual benchmark scores. Just because it displays 4.05GHz, doesn't mean it has the performance of 4.05GHz. Typical Ryzen problem.

[@Head_Pie]

Great work as always. Just installed my 5700x3d last week and now its temps are down from 91 to 77 during Cinebench

This tool when set run on startup is very nice, not mess with system like other apps run as "background task". It's just run, show the UI very quickly "Passed parameters...." then disappear :D. (but the effect is still applied, cool) I'm using a ryzen 5700X with b550m mobo, and this thing make it better & cooler. PBO 2.0 120W reduce to 90W without losing any performance. Good tutorial btw. 1 sub 1 like

[@Trueromancee]

nice info, thanks as always!

[@waynegriffin8667]

I watched this after waiting for the release of the 9600x/9700x and reviews where in some cases, they were actually worse than their previous 7000x variants, made me think, damn! What's the point! Might as well go for the current offerings. I was then trying to choose a decent B650M/7700X/DDR5 combo. But who wants to shell out decent $$$ when there's really no need. After seeing this, I was sold on getting either the 5700X3D or the 5800X3D. I was coming from a 5700X on an Aorus Pro V2 mobo, 32GB 3200 CL14 G-Skill RAM and an undervolted 4070-Ti Super, that is just magic, running at about 50° and drawing about 135w in game. (Initially had a 3070 but it developed issues)... The 5700x however was a disappointment and could barely maintain even a stable -20 PBO2 curve. After seeing this, I thought, stuff it. Go the 5800X3D. Well I got it yesterday afternoon and? DAYUMN! I couldn't be happier. After giving it a go without any undervolting, I tried it at -25, all good. Holding steady at -30, no crashes or instability so far. The B550 Aorus Pro V2 worked just fine. The 5800X3D is running about 50° and roughly drawing about 45w 'in game' with no drop in performance... WOW! What a difference over the 5700x. No need to upgrade now, lovin' it! The AM4 platform is still one of the best platforms and still kicking, thanks to these beauties. The fact that they released the 5700X3D when AM4 was deemed EOL, is very cool, guess they had an abundance of binned 5800X3D's ;).

[@sheratedis]

Long time not seen, welcome back!

[@necuz]

Straight -30 has been solid on my 5800X3D for the past 2 years.

[@Raivo_K]

Same here. Got lucky i suppose.

[@jonboy602]

Not on either of mine. Took me a while to figure out what was causing crashing and stutters as everyone at the time was making out like it would be so stable as to barely be even worth testing.

[@Milan_M95]

I'm using -30 on my 5800x for months now no problem

[@steaksoldier]

I used to use -30 on mine but it was causing crashes in darktide so i'm at -20 now and chillin.

[@Targetlockon]

Seen this before, thank you for covering it ^^

[@michaelthompson9798]

Great video tutorial Brian 🥰💪👍🙂‍↕! It’s great to see undervolting becoming more popular in the past few years. I do a quick n dirty -30 on my Ryzen CPUs and see a great temp saving a slight boost in cpu MHz frequency for literally a few moments in the bios 😇✊💪

[@Unknown-rk9qm]

Without undervolting, my 5700x3d had temperature between 64 and 66°C, which is amazing. With undervolting, I dropped thos temps for about 10°c with even better performance. Brutal

[@Andytlp]

I'll do that -30 when it arrives. Thanks Bryan. Update: So -30 curve works. -50 works too but there is performance regression down to default settings performance. cinebench r15 went from 2174 to 2264-2270 peak was 2280. Temps went down from 78.5c peak to 72c peak (Might have to check the mx4 thermal paste application but i was more than generous with the pea size) and power from 93w peak to 81w peak. Also set ppt to 88w and see no loss in performance or clocks. These chips are hot even nhd-15 is ramping up to 1100rpm cool it. I'll have to adjust the fan curve to around 800-900 where it's inaudible cause it's becoming audible lol. Unless it's only when all cores are pegged to 100% and not gaming, then i'll leave it as is.

[@saemonhavarian5750]

Love your under-volting videos. Today's chips are too power hungry by default. Running a cool undervolted Alderlake thanks to your content.

[@eirik6123]

nice vid, mine did a 13615 on cinebench R23 with -40mV undervolt with the noctua NHD15 cooler, was stable at -50mV also but changed it back to -40 :) max 62,1 C° and 83,6 watts Edit, just got a score of 13736 on 30mV undervolt

[@forzaflyracer3473]

Can't wait to try this with my 5600x3d Ps. Sonic music at the end is the shit. I love Sonic

[@hawksfan816]

What did you end up setting it to? Did you notice any change? I have the same CPU with Asus Tuf X570 MB

[@TruthSeeker007-j7f]

You can never play enough Pokémon with your son. All good here

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

Yep, we have a few 5800x cpus. All capped at 4.65 ghz @ 1.22 v Never get hot and have the highest cbr23 scores. Idles 31 to 34 c. Max temp 68c.

[@lulifruli9132]

I need 1.28v for 4.5 to be stable... seems I really lost the silicon lottery.. for 4.65 ghz my cpu needs 1.375v I can boot 4.6ghz at 1.25v but any game or benchmark will crash after 2 minutes, seems unreal that I need to push to 1.375v from just booting to get it stable in games and benches.m..

[@mirzagalib8984]

People with MSI mobos can also use Kombo Strike in BIOS. Works same as PBO Tuner. Kombo Strike 3 means -30mv. Upgraded PC from 2019: Ryzen 2700 > Ryzen 5700X3D RTX 2080Ti > RTX 4080 5700X3D is insane value 😀.

[@xScream]

Bro thanks! I was wondering what the heck is kombo strike,its very similar to fighting game move

[@vidicisthegoat5444]

Im considering upgrading my 3600 and rx 5600xt Worth? Looking at the 5700x3d with a rx 7700? How long could this upgrade run cs2 at over 240 fps?

[@GabryTFXTM]

Ive had 970 and i-5 4460 for years. After i took a ryzen 7 1700. Now i have a 6800xt and in waiting to get the 5700x3d in 3 days, cant wait to being able to actually play

[@headphonesz6527]

​@@vidicisthegoat5444 That should last for a while

[@playmakerrek6178]

Where can I see the kombo strike, I have an older msi mobo b450 tomahawk non max

[@XXnomadXX155]

just got my 5700x3d from R5 3600 with update bios on asus B550 f gaming used pbo turner to -20mv and used the task schedule but i also use the startup shell cmd and put the shortcut pbo2 turner on the desktop and startup folder and it work. idle 44-40c gaming 60-70c

[@adrianstech]

I set a negative offset or -30 in my BIOS and overclocked my RAM from DDR4-3200 to DDR4-3800 (FCLK 1:1) with tightened timings and I gained a considerable amount of performance. I play eSports games like Valorant and I gained an average of 50-70fps in Valorant

[@tomjunior7273]

Brooo i just bought my 5700x3d and i love playing valorant, how many fps do u get?

[@ALCA_AC]

Pretty sure most of the diff is from the cpu undervolting, there isn’t that much diff in 3200 or 3800 ram, not even noticeable in fps

[@renexe]

I just upgraded from 5600x GPU:3060 ti to 5700x3d with same gpu. Its about 20% to 30% boost all around the board in games (With no DLSS or FSR)

[@Kagemyth]

i have a 3700 and a 2080super and have been debating getting a 5700 X3D for a while

[@renexe]

@@Kagemyth it is worth. 2080 and 3060 ti both has almost the same performance. Also %1 and %0.1 dips are no longer below 50-60 FPS

[@Amirmteir]

totally get it 5700x3d is a beast​@@Kagemyth

[@aisliin]

went from ryzen 5500 to 5600x3D with a 3060ti, 1 percent lows shot up like 10-20 frames, and my max fps is generally way better ! good call

[@mYm_StaGe6]

Went from ryzen 7 1700x with 1080 to 5700x3d with 1080. Plus 400 fps on cs2 with low settings. Incredible cpu.

[@paulwestphal7336]

Much thanks! I find get value in this video!

[@AinzOoalG0wn]

wow ur tip solved my problem. during load it would go 60-80c. it would hit 83 but i didn't know what to do. the answer for it was to undervolt. i'm using a 5700x3d. this made my temps under load a steady 60max. on idle it's about 40-50c. when gaming i get max fps 180 for a rx 7800 xt nitro plus graphics card. all working well. i used -40mv for undervolt. no crash yet. will fall back to -30mv like u suggest if i notice issues. non so far.

[@gamingcollection4448]

Thank you so much for the explanation

[@Zenith_Nulls]

great video bro

[@grahontc]

Thank mr. TechYESCity 🤘

[@lewzealand4717]

If you're really scraping the bottom with a 5700X3D using a 3-pipe Cryorig M9a or similar in a 27C room, you might only get away with a PBO offset of -15 during peaky game loads. Mine crashes on occasion at -20 when building shaders at the beginning of Hogwarts Legacy and when loading in Ark-SE. Fine at no offset and -10. Testing at -15 good so far.

[@8bitnitwit]

Thank you Christopher Walken my CPU is running much cooler now ❤

[@greggysimmo]

I didn't think Zen3 (Vermeer) CPU's recognized a Curve Optimizer value below -30 but perhaps the 5700X3D does and/or the latest AGESA V2 1.2.0.C now supports lower CO values?

[@123TheCloop]

they dont, AMD hasnt removed this limitation as of yet

[@AdamsWorlds]

Doing gods work.

[@Targetlockon]

Undervolting tutorials by the YES man extracting that value

[@surfx4804]

Good shout out, esp the 5700x3d is low price. Been using PBO2 Tuner for ages with my 5800x3d (and other AM4 CPUs). Even if you want to bake them into the bios it still quicker to tune without rebooting, then set the bios (and do a final test). I also use corecycler to test these types of undervolting (it is a bit more finicky as need to edit the ini file). Especially useful if you have an intermittent fail, it was the only thing that spotted this on my 5800x (not the x3d) by leaving it running it overnight (back of the UV on the core by 5 and all good).

[@queden1841]

Hey great video but I don't want another program running in the background. Do you also have a tutorial on how to do this through your bios?

[@jackrenders8937]

fun fact if you own a steamdeck LCD or OLED you can undervolt the CPU/GPU/SOC in the bios for lower temp, noise and longer battery life.

[@Targetlockon]

Set different -30 or less depending on testing for stability. Go down -5 lower for each core until stable.

[@bodasactra]

Reminds me of the MSI 5000X3D feature, Kombo Strike, found on motherboards like the Unify, Ace, Godlike, etc, except Kombo Strike tops out at -30mv. Apparently, MSI agrees with your sweet spot findings.

[@moss8448]

Good heads up 👍

[@popcorn4465]

Brain love the sf 2 music should use it more haaaarrdoooken!! thank you great video just saved me and my fps is loads better thank you so much

[@45eno]

Just bought a 5700X3D used for $140 and sold the 5700X for $120. PBO2 I just realized is not available on my Gigabyte DS3H even with the latest March 2024 F19 bios. I usually use a negative CO from -10 to -30 range and planned on doing the same on this even though temps are no higher than 75c on C23 with 3950mhz-3975mhz all core during C23.

[@Hawlkeye-e9p]

The 5800x are on x570 unify boards. Pbo, 200 over boost. Curv is -5 -5 for the two fastest cores and -18 on the rest.

[@Dwal1n]

Good Video :) How can I checkt out curve is setting after startup?

[@d4mb20]

Technically it doesn't undervolt, it just move the necessary voltage for the clock, kinda

[@peki100]

My Ryzen 5600 gets unstable even at -5 curve. I even tried setting numbers for individual cores thinking only 1 core is a culprit.. It's a silicon lotery..

[@evilleader1991]

X3D chips are much better binned than the non-X3D ones.

[@zilverman7820]

You dont neednto undervolt 5600 its already low powered

[@stevelo2057]

@@zilverman7820I still PBO -30 on my 5600, clock speed went up 150 to 200mhz. It’s no much difference, but it’s free and stable for me, why not?

[@anaqin5]

If you got your Zen 3 CPU closer to launch, it's more likely to be bad at undervolting. I had an experience with a 2021 5600 and it wasn't stable at -15 no clock offset. But another on of my 5600 from 2024 was able to do +300mhz and -30 all cores stable. Kinda unlucky for those who bought early.

[@hrayz]

The BIOS updates also change things. My 5950X when I got it could do -29 CO, but a few BIOS updates later and it can only do -20 CO now.

[@earthling1988]

Hello Bryan, could you make the same video again, but this time with the Ryzen 5800X3D? That would be really nice, bro! Please also use the same Snowman cooler and make the same comparisons with the water cooling. My Burst Assassin (120mm fan, 6 heat pipes) air cooler should normally be sufficient for the 5800X3D, but I know that this CPU can get a bit warmer, and in that case, an AIO water cooling solution might also make sense.

[@96kire96]

AIO does not instantly mean better :) you'll be fine.

[@DevilMayCry_BR]

with my 5700X3D, i did my adjustments in bios (X570 chipset here), but -25 all cores it freezes the system for 10 seconds once every 3 days or so... i left at -10 now and its fine. but there is no gains in most game, sometimes 1 fps or 2 at most. so, just leave at stock on a A520 motherboard and be happy!

[@96kire96]

its about the temps, not the fps gains primarily

[@kuzzzzzzzzzzzz7511]

7800x3d tuning will be uplift performance with low power draw and temp??

[@rap33042]

When you set up your Task Scheduler, you told it that if there was an instance already running to queue up another instance. I don't understand that setting at all. Would you explain why you did that? Thanks... this is a very helpful video.

[@123TheCloop]

Decent video but I think you need to reattempt the video and give better information. firstly Ryzen 5000 are limited to -30 offset, this a chipset limitation, only Ryzen 7000 and up can do -50 offsets. Secondly you cannot just simply go for a -30 offset and benchmark the results. You need to do EXTENSIVE testing on this for core stability and crashing. if an offset is unstable, windows more than often doesnt actually crash or BSOD (the core effected does) thats why you need to really go up using -5 intervals from 0 and test each run using something like ycruncher (or my prefered method corecycler) this tests each core in a more "idle" sense (which is where offset core crashing happens) to see if any of the cores crash which indicates an unstable offset applied. You also need to make sure your offset is not too high, even if your CPU can support it (through testing) *you need to keep an eye on your effective clock speed vs "core clock value"* it shows 2 clock values, you need to actually watch the effective clock speeds as too high an offset can lead to lower performance. not all can do -30 on all cores (i got lucky as my 5800x3d could and did several days worth of testing to validate the results)

[@autumn42762]

yeah -30 can appear stable at first but in my case it would sometimes just reboot randomly during gaming

[@123TheCloop]

@@autumn42762 yeah -30 is extremely rare to achieve, i must have got golden silicon on mine but almost all sources ppl barely do -20 stable with the few exceptions doing -25.

[@LaserDiK]

You say Ryzen 7k can do max -50 AC! Well my 7700 can do -120 on all cores without crash and at -65 in CB r23 it boost on All Cores 5025-5050mhz and gives me 19270pts at stock 60W but IMC crash! Anything above -30 right away makes Ram unstable With or without EXPO! -30 and everything is stable with tight timings cl26 so am curious wath 9k shows 😏

[@monolofiminimal]

​@@LaserDiKI might be wrong but it's possible values get ignored (for specific chips), I can't remember exactly which one that might've ignored values past-30 or -50 (the mobo may have let value be set but the chip itself would limit it or something. I read it either on AMD, overclock website or Reddit. I'm probably wrong in what I remembered though.

[@123TheCloop]

@@LaserDiK -120 shouldnt be possible, -50 is the limit AMD imposed on 7000, same reason Ryzen 5000 is limited too -30 in bios's (thats an actual Vermeer limit) this was a hardware limit. so unless some vendors have removed the limits with recent AGESA patches but ide be surprised if you get anything beyond -50 thats actually stable. you claim -65 in CB, you are not meant to test curve optimizer offsets in high workloads........ these need to be tested in idle/low usage states using ycruncher or corecycler because that is where core crashing primarirly happens. that -65 i can gaurantee is not stable if you bother to do the proper testing. And even IF the offset is stable, you need to ensure your effective clocks match your "actual clocks" in HWInfo readout, because your effective clocks can actually drop lower in value vs the core clock value and this reduces performance.

[@marcosimone5500]

On my 7800X3D safe curve is -35 on AIO and -30 on one tower air cooler. With tight OC RAM of course.

[@Xilent1]

Definitely upgrading my 3700x to the 5700X3D on my Asus B550. I think when he said since he doesn't use a password (like me), he had to set it to start in 30sec. I know for a fact thats true. I O.C. my CPU literally as soon as I got to the desktop. It made my screen go black, even after restart. I had to take out my CMOS Battery on my MoBo to fix the issue. I was nervous.

[@dinguyen3618]

I assume if you use this tool and set it up like in the video, you don't need to touch anything in the BIOS (except for things like RAM XMP, CSM, Resizable Bar, etc.), right?

[@skyoreece9805]

Under volting is ok but it's top end turbo speed can be affect and most cores will tend to settle an average speed. Maybe it could prolong board life but mosfets fail boards catch fire it doesn't quite save the day

[@Kapono5150]

Iv heard some can’t even run a negative 20 offset

[@lewzealand4717]

My 5700X3D can't when in a 27C room but my cooling is pretty minimal with a 3-pipe Cryorig M9s. -10 is fine all the time and -20 is stable when it's colder but not at 27C.

[@romandulce999]

Running my 5700X3D with Wraith Prism cooler. In NFS Unbound without undervold CPU temps is 82c... -30 and -40 made no difference keeping CPU temp at 70-71c. Overall I'm pretty happy with the results.

[@ibobeko4309]

for 30€ you get a CPU cooler like the DeepCool AK400, which is cooler, way more silent than the Wraith Prism.

[@romandulce999]

@ But does not look so cool and authentic.

[@ibobeko4309]

@@romandulce999 The cooler is inefficient, it is loud and it is not cooling enough.

[@romandulce999]

@@ibobeko4309 Max i get with it is 71c under heavy load. And its not that loud in my sistem. Does the job for me. :)

[@ibobeko4309]

@@romandulce999 I had one wraith prism cooler in my old pc with 1700, which was not that hot and it was loud asf, even a 20€ Be Quiet Pure Rock was so much better.

[@jlmpc8733]

Just so you knoe. -40 on the curve optimizer doesnt mean -40mV, its -40 steps on the voltage requested by that particular core. Here an short explanation: "Normally people will tell you best cores do less undervolting and worse cores do more undervolting and while this is true, we cannot forget Curve Optimiser offsets are an order of magnitude and not an actual value. Just because a core does -30 and another -25 it does not mean that -30 > -20 in absolute terms because the core that is at -20 might already be requesting lower VID to begin with. "

[@benoxtoby4999]

I have a question when trying this myself. PBO Tuner applies a -30, then when closing and reopening, it’s back to zero. How do I know it works past being closed? I also don’t seem to be able to see if my task scheduler works, as it brings up the window, everything is greyed out, then it closes?

[@Targetlockon]

Recommended settings for PPT, TDC, EDC? Would like to know for bios settings to further fine tune the undervolt

[@dagnisnierlins188]

Whatever motherboard can do. PBO limits = Motherboard

[@cobaltgaming948]

On an Asus Prime B550, for me doing a negative offset past -10 actually hindered performance on Assetto Corsa Competizione which is the only game I want max fps. Not sure if its because of its utilisation of the L3 cache. As the -10 made little difference I've just gone back to stock. Cooler is Noctua U12S.

[@haraskosvk]

Díky!

[@itag295]

I don't have the best silicon. I'm using -14mV on all cores. I crashed at -30 and -25. I also set a max temp threshold at 70°C which is really good to keep the pc quiet. I'm using PBO inside UEFI.

[@christophweber5688]

My Ryzen 5700X (without V-Cache) Stepping VMR-B2 is stable with "-20" all cores. I manually set the extra frequency = +200 MHz in Bios, so it's boosting up to 4850 MHz. More undervolting hurts either the performance or stability.

[@theviewer1423]

It may be unstable on some CPU's when undervolting. I tried undervolting a AM4 chip but it's unstable for whatever reason. It doesn't want to undervolt at all. Just saying it could possibly happen.

[@p4radigm989]

this looks to be more practical than Ryzen Master, because I can just instantly lower Voltages and then test while I am working on the PC, instead of having to go through the long and tedious RM test procedures, crash, reboot, enter values in Bios, then crash again... I think I should do RM tests anyway but AFTER figuring out my values with PBO2 tuner.

[@glancevincent]

ah this makes me so jealous! Intel 13th Gen user here :)

[@johndotes]

Hey! It’s 2024 but I still want to have this as my CPU. What GPU can you suggest for me to pair it with? I only play 1080p, don’t see myself playing higher than that - I plan to get the 3060 12 GB, need NVENC at times. Soo, lastly, what should I look into for the MOBO? What specific feature should I look for? Thank you very much.

[@jimtekkit]

Does shipping from Aliexpress sellers to Australia carry any extra fees (besides GST) for clearing customs?

[@Tazzaret]

Hey...I know it might sound like a stupid question..but do you need to do any extra shinanigans with 5700x3d to ensure that the 3d V cache is working? I have a B450 Tomahawk Max, updated BIOS to the newest version and downloaded AMD chipset drivers. Not sure if I am seeing results I was expecting therefore making sure I didn't miss on anything

[@seibertron500]

cache is always on as it is an integral part of the CPU, otherwise you'd be heavily limited on RAM for processing which is like slower vs doing it w/ cache directly on the CPU. just make sure you have the most recent BIOS and chipset drivers (latest as of typing is 6.07.22.037) and probably your power plan needs to be on Balanced (I'm pretty sure Windows has fixed the scheduler issues for Ryzen at this point)

[@constanttension8833]

I'm running a 360 aio on mine. On cinebench multicore with no undervolt I got 13291 @69-70c, -20 13275 @63-64c, -30 13258 @61c. Got a lot colder with undervolting but a little less performance. I'm gonna see if I can undervolt through the bios to actually get better performance.

[@ns-tech1304]

Can you do a small video on benchmark overlays? I normally just use RTSS but these are way more indepth.

[@bobalazsgaming]

RTSS has nice depth.

[@seibertron500]

for the run on startup thing, won't just making a shortcut of pbo2tuner with the added targer line and put it in the startup folder work the same? sure it won't have the 30 sec delay but wouldn't it essentially be the same thing? EDIT: yep, works the same way. you can also do a .bat file on startup in case making a shortcut in the startup folder doesn't work as some have reported needing UAC for this to work properly on as a startup shortcut.

[@SlyDive700]

I'm using the curve optimization setting to all cores and optimizer magnitude negative 26. The temps are lower.

[@zeroshot7644]

After getting 5700X3D and trying this -30 on curve optimizer (in bios) for weeks. I can conclude that my 5700X3D doesn't like the -30 setting. I keep getting constant random reboots (especially on wake on sleep). My system however is stable on no undervolt or just -10 to -15. We may all have the same chip but the binning process will really differ so we won't have the same results.

[@k1nzucs]

My 5700x3d sits at 30/45% usage range with 60°C temp at CS2 (1280x960 "competitive" settings). GIGABYTE B450 motherboard 2X8GB 3200 CL16 RAM I'm using Air Cooling and not having any temp issues. Is it worth undervolting ? Will it increase performance ?

[@b4dman]

So you undervolt, it's worth?😅

[@k1nzucs]

@@b4dman No i didn't. I think is worthless if you have good temps.

[@TheTwiix]

@@k1nzucs amd cpu are made to reach high temp under load. if you only have 60c playing game dont bother with undervolt. cpu can reach 80-90c underload and be fine

[@AnoshterHaar]

I have an undervolt running. But also changed ppt and tdc etc in bios. Tutorials said this would help find a sweet spot as well. But does it? Or is it now possibly limiting my chip?

[@-nufzy-]

What about universal x86 Tuning utility?

[@GHOSTYU2B]

if you have an msi motherboard you can enable kombo strike in bios for the same effect but on the bios side.

[@skater96937]

-30 and kombostrike 3.

[@matthewbusse1059]

Hard to get excited about 15 watts, but the better temps look great

[@griffin1366]

Meanwhile your monitor uses 30-100W each :~)