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When Two Subscribers asked me at virtually the same time to build them pcs for pretty much the same money, I took it to myself to put the E5640 head to head against the i7-920, however to my surprise when I clocked both these CPUs to 4ghz and had them running in cinebench R15 I noticed that scores were pretty much identical.... (the firestrike bench was at 3.9ghz I think for the e5640 due to finding a more long term OC).
Does this mean that when Intel shrank the node / half pitch and gate lengths from Nahalem to Westmere it didn't bring any performance gains?! It doesn't make any sense... Just what the hell happened with Westmere!?
The GTX660 though decent value for money was a little bit underwhelming when it came to the raw figures... something I will definitely have to look into (when I get some more of that precious thing called time!).
Also the benchmarks video footage was just for broll, so differed from the actual results.
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Intro Music - Hood gone Love it by Jay Rock and Kendrick Lamar from GTA 5
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[@pumpkinheadspiegaming8314]

Someones been playing alot of GTA recently...

[@techyescity]

1080p is still processing, sowwy!!

[@katmanco3699]

+Tech YES City I was wondering about that

[@chetanjadhav5031]

Tech city how did u select that two hungry subscribers????

[@techyescity]

They just contacted me since they both lived in Japan, was happy to help.

[@hssssssssssss]

+Tech YES City Your content is too good, the past 20 minutes of waiting for 1080p is like hours :(

[@EngineeringNibbles]

+Tech YES City I much preffer these videos over boring new products, I really don't see the interest in a review of a small laptop with bad specs / an average monitor Keep it up :D

[@santi0797]

this is the kind of content that youtube lacks, real reviews made by normal people that buy their hardware with an objective conclusion, and the best part of it is that it shows that old hardware is still capable, with great examples, i hope that you get lots of subs man, and you can grow a lot and continue to make great videos

[@eixeon395]

Agreed, he does builds the average man can afford, not all people have 1000 dollars laying around

[@elscartoloco]

upgraded my i7 920 d0 to a 5820k last month. awesome to see a build and some benches with it. had loads of fun overclocking with that CPU. still have a build with it inside, hidden under the desk.

[@SlobboVideo]

You sure love giving life back to old PCs. Love the channel, keep up the amazing work.

[@JohnJames0204]

Always amaze at the amount of effort you put in making these build videos, much respect! Buying the parts seems like cakewalk compared to cleaning, updating and just making it work.

[@Cybermunky7]

loving these videos bro, it's nice to see old hardware getting this much love.

[@ToniML200]

Man I think you're the best KZbinr ever!! Because of this video I have found a beast for 30-50$ CPU!! I can't thank you enough times!!

[@fai5734]

Tutoriale și jocuri interesante Ce CPU ai găsit? Eu am upgrade de la i7 930 la X5670, și am overclock la 3.6Ghz

[@TheHilo623]

by far my favorite tech channel. thanks for the video!

[@GeorgeParkerCustom]

This is a fantastic video. Satisfying and very well edited! Great video man, sometimes videos like this are better than a LinusTechTips video.

[@dagaarde-h2769]

Finally the work week is over and consumption of tech vids can begin. Nice one Brian.

[@Metalpig58]

Great builds legend ..would love either of them

[@nickjames6241]

mate i love all your builds lately wish the parts you use could be had that cheap down under

[@poopipeboy3033]

This is the main KZbin channel I keep an eye on now, building computers from used parts is so awesome. Back in the day I used to pick up junk computers from a refuse store, and one time back in 2006 I found a HP Kayak XM600 workstation with a dual Slot 1 motherboard for $20. I remember adding a second Pentium 3 and installing Windows XP 64-bit, it actually had two CPU usage graphs in Task Manager, it was such a monster. 99% of what I know about computers now is the stuff I learned from working on used systems like that.

[@techyescity]

+PooPipeBoy Yeah its heaps of fun, and thanks for the compliments man.

[@LawrenceTimme]

Epic video as always! i just love the style of your videos. I got that Xeon E5 2670, but i did not manage to get the 125mhz strap working on it, in my x79 rampage IV formula, however i did manage to get 107 on the base clock, which was a nice bump and i have also ordered another 2 e5 2670 to test. i also picked up this dual socket intel board with two Xeon X5675, so i have been having some fun with that today.

[@silosis]

your vids make me so excited to build budget pc's, i watch them so much lol

[@jontywells7082]

great work, keep going hard at it you got great content

[@james_fernandez]

Loving the 1975 Heart Out reference! MY FAV SONG!! awesome vid dude, keep it up!

[@iancafc123]

Great video Brian you are a credit to the industry

[@Monkeyjitzu]

nice videos as always man keep it going!!!

[@CesarDRK]

Just upgraded my rig from a i7 920 @ 3.8 to a x5660 @ 4.2. Watching your videos is a blast! The x58 platform is amazing, i got mine 7 years ago, today with the xeon it still rips!

[@daytimerocker3808]

rips even anther 7 years later

[@karikaroyt2689]

Loving the music choice!

[@boratsmagadijev940]

+My Name. IS NOT. RIIIIIICK! me2

[@padlockbeats151]

great vid mate. good music for a change too. cheers!

[@Ghygles]

Thanks for the great content Brian, I just modded my first Xeon X5460 on an Asrock G41M-LE. Pleased with it, can't really oc it though, only got it to 3.3. Planning an upgrade to a P5Q after i sell off my G3258

[@jeffdorego9530]

Videos keep getting better, bro! Are you like a ESL teacher in Japan? But anyways, Good vids, bro! Been watching all your vids. Big Fan here!

[@katmanco3699]

not first! But seriously been waiting on a video. Good job and keep bringing awesome content like this to a screens!

[@MasterOfBandwidth]

Hi Bryan, and again: congratulation for the nice edit and topic you choose to highlight today. By the way because it's kind of a draw between the two setups in you vid, it must have been interesting to compare the efficiency of the two solutions. My guess is because of the 45mm vs 32mm and 130w vs 80w TDP, the Xeon will win. Cheers!

[@techyescity]

+MasterOfBandwidth Yeah I forgot to test that, damn, they are both gone now ah well! I was more interested in the performance which I still don't have an answer for...

[@orionlynd8429]

love your videos man.

[@laurensterpstra7137]

man I love this channel

[@XsoukinX]

love this channel awesome content

[@kathirvelgounder5661]

I love the variety of the music on your channel. Lol

[@chetanjadhav5031]

It's gta v title track

[@PeterGriffin-be5nc]

great videos. like the presentation. i've learnt much from you. i tor down my rig and cleaned all the parts as i've seen you do it. looks much nicer, runs cooler and should last a little longer. very rewarding! the gpu is the only item not tried yet. bit cautious but i will have a go. gtx 760 referance is running @81!

[@bimmerlife5452]

Brian I like that dope ass jam with the video

[@epicx1038]

That intro music tho brian is a G

[@ivos4124]

St8 thuggin.. #pimp B

[@yourmomishere6567]

still got my 920 running perfectly :)

[@browntrout3994]

me too...but I think its about to become my old PC....time for new one ;-)

[@Cat-fp7jw]

YourMomIsHere LOLOL

[@Harolds0]

Great songs used!

[@ColinReay]

Brian, great video, like the content - very unique. Have you ever considered doing something with a 7990? I don't know if they are cheap in your area, but I feel like that paired up with a Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge cpu would destroy at 1080p for $500ish.

[@techyescity]

+Colin Reay Will have a look, but that card would be hard to find!

[@markwhitfield6781]

Holy Balls B, you recorin'/uploin' in 4k!? NICE.

[@techyescity]

+Mark Whitfield yeah man

[@arreatguardians]

Hey, very interesting video . i love these old parts comparisons. One thing I have noticed and I'm wondering about is , you always use low Anisotropic Filtering . Why ? It is practically free , and it does offer a good quality . Also one suggestion would be to find a more CPU intensive game to include in the benches. Recently I have had a problem with a i7-2670qm , not keeping up with a very modest 6770m GPU in games like Heroes of the Storm and SimCity, while not being a problem with games of GTA5's nature. Keep up the good work !

[@techyescity]

+guardians3D I thought Anisotropic filtering puts quite a bit of strain on the CPU? I will have to test it out more.

[@arreatguardians]

+Tech YES City Well actually AF is a GPU operation . The graphics card ALU units , are used and the operation takes up abit of the memory bandwidth . It was , infact , a heavy operation and close to AA levels of a performance hog , about 10 years ago. When GPU, had low amounts of bandwidth , and vram . Today it isn't really that big of a deal . It might be worth a test if it makes any difference with say , GPU's with gddr3 or gddr5 ram , when lots and lots of textures , on perpendicular surfaces are present in the scene. Even then it should be a very low impact. That isn't to say that AF isn't a problem ... on current gen consoles. As they don't have dedicated memory , their CPU and GPU might fight for bandwidth . Digital Foundry had an interesting article few months back . There they tested some APU's in effort to find if this is a problem when ram is shared. Even in this scenario , the difference between AFx16 and the lowest filtering option was in fractions of a frame .

[@techyescity]

Ah no worries, thanks for the insight! I will have to hit it up to max then!

[@gman3563]

love the music!

[@minesweeper6312]

Subbed because someone played too much gta v to put this song intro :D i also like the fact that he shows pc's that are very good for its money

[@malamri424]

wow those 3d mark physics scores are impressive

[@joey13766]

You are the used parts guru! I'll be rocking a 7970 until a 970 or better can be found used for $150-200

[@aliali-rm5yp]

RX480 :)

[@joey13766]

Hey what did I say lol

[@Tnlich1]

Man you beat that Canadian guy IMO that shows off the 20-30 gran PC builds he does. I like having the budget what most would call "junk" items resurrected. Seems with the newer CPU's that have been talked about here recently. its slower speeds and more cores. So in saying that wander if the old X58 is really going to outlast way way WAY into the future. I know the E series is definitely still viable and the DDR4 not really any better than the 3. Well as far as gaming performance. there is little to no difference. WELL there you have it . Slap a decent Video card in a super budget build and have a blast. Thanks for making these under $1000 American dollar PC videos bro.

[@thesteelemeister]

I'm still using an i7 920, still going strong. Upgraded the psu, graphics card (R9 280 now) and RAM (8GB) in my around 10 year old PC and I play Fallout 4, The Witcher 3 etc

[@TylerPnW]

love that haircut and it for some reason looks more high quality

[@MarkJYule]

another thing worth noting - the x58 supposedly only supports 24gb (6*4gb) but there are numerous reports of it being fine with 8gb modules!

[@techyescity]

+Mark J. Yule Yeah, must be CPUs memory controllers actually being capable of handling it perfectly fine.

[@chukwu_9]

love the song in the beginning

[@lokdabest]

I dig your taste in music, old man

[@TalonsTech]

I've been watching a lot of your videos lately, and I really dig your old PC builds. I have a 5820k and 980 Ti, but for some reason I am drawn to the rebuilding of older tech and squeezing as much performance out of it. I rebuilt an old lga 1156 board for my brother. We already had the board, and manged to get an i7 875k fairly cheap, overclocked it to 4.0 and threw in an r9 390 and its a total beast. It makes me wonder why I spent so much money on my current build. Anyways, can you make a video on overclocking and voltage settings for older 1156/ and xeon equiv builds?

[@techyescity]

+Talon I actually have a 1156 build coming up, so will show the bios settings in that video for you.

[@ace95126]

Great music choice

[@circletech7745]

This comment alone makes the video deserve a like 7:14 Keep up the good work man!

[@Zgembo121]

The music is MEGA EPPPIIIICCCC

[@TheRadioBunker]

You aint gotta like it cause the tech yes army gonna love it!

[@3DMGamingukf]

Loving the music from GTA V!

[@ducpham-fl2gh]

thank you very much for posting , i learn from you video. i am from viet nam , here i guess still still a bit expensive :)

[@k1mz0r]

Nice video, keep it up :) I'm wondering.. why are you scratching the thermal paste off? Wouldn't isopropyl be a better solution, or has the thermal paste simply turned into stone by now?

[@adeelrehman7692]

Tuned to stone probably

[@nowaygamer1974]

love this vid

[@maxmustermann194]

Turn off AA next time. MSAA is very taxing on the GPU in particular which isn't the target when benchmarking CPU performance

[@formergod6328]

+Alexander Mustermann Well I think he knows that.

[@the-bgrspot6997]

+Advance Micro Devices (AMD) its AdvanceD micro devices

[@thatrealtimegamer6780]

+The-BGR Spot ahaha savage xD

[@maxmustermann194]

+The-BGR Spot lel gg

[@nikffrsdpredggdwdggtdf6601]

Nice video very Professional

[@RafaCoprimo]

1:21 Awesome Music!

[@webserververse5749]

So glad Tech YES doesn't use that music anymore. . . That was a painful experience

[@Coldministrator]

Man, my OCD is killing me over those missing sticks of RAM xD ... not that you would notice the 33% lower transfer rate you might get in 50% of the accesses but it just doesn't look right! Great Video as allways though! Getting another cheap gigabyte X58 board myself soon. (Howewer i will sell my ASUS P6T7 WS SC ... people pay premium for mint boards with all accessories it seems...)

[@adeelrehman7692]

I haven't ever seen a cheap X58 board, sucks for me. They always go for like 200 or 300 or hardwareswap,

[@Coldministrator]

+Adeel Rehman Keep looking, you will find a good deal if you really try! I just picked up this GA-EX58-UD3R through Facebook for 50€ inc. shipping! (he told me it has one bad RAM channel but if i'm lucky it's just a bent CPU socket pin or his CPU)

[@adeelrehman7692]

***** what Facebook did u buy it off of

[@Coldministrator]

Oh it's just a random PC Hardware exchange & modding Facebook Group in the Country i live in. (Germany) I bet there's something similar availiable in your area. That guy posted pics of his new rig and since he had posted his old rig weeks before i knew that he had an X58 board. I wrote him a Message if he was willing to sell the old stuff and fortunately he said yes :D ... Not the first time i have done that. From that group i also got my MSI x58m with i7 920 D0 and 8GB DDR3 for 95€ total. That however was for sale in the Group. I just happened to comment before everyone else :D

[@adeelrehman7692]

***** nice!! I use the hardwareswap reddit over here in us.

[@jeffcarter1685]

your videos are so clean.Wat camera and editing software r u using

[@techyescity]

+jeff Carter Thanks! Using Pansonic G7 + Adobe CC 2015

[@OscarRobbing]

Chipmunk voice made my day.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

8:09 'I want flash bios' lmfao

[@HarlesBently]

Surprised to see this. I just built a i7-930 6 gigs of ram ddr3, hyper 212 evo, cheap case, evga 500 watt 80+ power supply and msi rx460. Im working on overclocking the cpu. Oh and asrock xtreme x58 motherboard. All for 330 total. Mother board alone is going for close to 200 on any place i look used.

[@Shocari]

Another great vid, as always! I recently had a problem with my graphics card overheating. It's a Sapphire Radeon 7870 and one of the fans is apparently being blocked from one of the cables going into MSI FM2 motherboard (I built your 2013 $500 build, has been working wonders!). My tech guy suggested just swapping out the motherboard, but I'm wondering what it is that you would suggest? If getting a new mobo is the way to go, what could I get that would be just as good in performance but not end up having a fan on my 7870 blocked?

[@TheGamingOnion]

Hey, if you still have these builds around, I would really love to see a couple of pure CPU benchmarks.

[@ralphjlmartinez]

music is on point!!!!

[@MidnightBoss_80]

what was the name of the track that started at 13:10? BTW Nice Video, really shows that old Hardware is not as obsolete as many think.....

[@adamdanny7]

Thumbs Up! for Thermaltake Xaser chassis

[@Laxatangeek]

Nice video ! Would it be possible to see a rig built around the GTX580 - HD6990 or other old school high end cards ?

[@adeelrehman7692]

6990 is prob comming up

[@MarkJYule]

Just an update re memory. I just picked up some Corsair xms3 ddr3-1600 cas11 sticks - 2*8gb for 30 bucks. Stuck it in my Asus p6x58d-e and it works perfectly! So going with Xeon on x58 is a double whammy bonus :D

[@marlok1980]

Always very good POTATO builds keep it up...nice video

[@David_Quinn_Photography]

good PC's man

[@sovatabg345]

man i really like your videos can u build a 350$ pc with used parts (of course)

[@adeelrehman7692]

He just did a 310 Doller one. This is the states would be about 350

[@fabianosilvasantos6846]

Hello tech I am Brazilian and I am fan of your channel. answer me a question. do you live in Japan? Continue your wonderful work . Thank you

[@techyescity]

+Fabiano Silva Santos Yes live in Japan at the moment.

[@jaja1818]

i wish used pcs in my country are as ridiculously low as yours...i got my dad a used dell mini pc inspiron for only 250usd..the thing had a i7 4770!!now im super jelly of it cuz my current system has a 3770 in it lols!!got really interested in used pc since then..thank you consoles for holding back graphics advancement! now i can cheap out on my pc and still run current games in high framerates

[@lynxfeed6461]

Soy de argentina y no entiendo mucho ingles pero me encanta Tech Yes City... Good Job! :D

[@NerdTouchingGrass]

lol this song cracks me up!

[@freier4845]

Nice builds. I got asrock x58 extreme(NEW!!!) for 85 euro shipped and i7 920 for 25 euros, stock cooler included. I will pair it with 750ti probably, enough for my needs and within my tiny budget.

[@ian1064]

pair it with gtx 260 or radeon 4980 those are going for like 20 euros in Europe

[@freier4845]

+Ian Witten It would be short time replacement so I don't wanna waste any money on it. I have one gtx 650 2GB yet to test so if it works it will save me some serious money.

[@feeterican]

I don't know if I told you in the passed about my EVGA 780i running an E8400. Back in December I found a Q9400 on Ebay for $20 and tossed it into my EVGA 780i and man did I get new life back into that PC. Well after fixing my friends PC I ended up with is ASUS Z97-AR witch was blown out. I RMA'd that board and got a new one and was able to keep it. So swaping out that ASUS board and installing the EVGA 780i went into a new case to find that I shocked the board and it died. I did have a backup ASUS P5B-E witch is an older board and only a 1066FSB I was worried that the Q9400 wouldn't work. I looked up some info on it and found it would work if I updated the BIOS. Bamb, 10 year old MoBo using a Q9400 and it's able to game. Funny though by installing that proc into the ASUS it overclocked the CPU by 200MHz Bonus! Any how I'm uploading right now a video on how a 10 year old MoBo can play Fallout 4 on High/Ultra settings @1080P I'm getting from 14FPS at the worst of times but out in the world I get a good playable 45FPS avg and a full 60FPS when in a warehouse or sewer or where there is a load into a mission. I'll tweet you the Vid when it's finaly finished.

[@ian1064]

nice I subbed

[@feeterican]

+Eric Marcus So I found out some good news. I didn't shock my EVGA 780i. Here it was the CPU cooler ether grounding out on the case or it's to heavy and smashing the CPU. Yesterday I took the CPU cooler that I was using originally in a Cooler Master HAF case that has a cutout behind the motherboard and when I took it out of the HAF and installed it into the Cooler Master 532 witch doesn't have a cut out and the ASUS P5B-E was crashing on startup just like it was on the EVGA board. I swapped back to the stock intel cooler and no hang up crash.

[@techyescity]

+Eric Marcus Awesome man, I think if you turned down some of the settings it would play even better, it is definitely an impressive CPU! I couldn't believe how it handled Metro Last Light.

[@feeterican]

Tech YES City I was pushing it to the limit to where it's still kind of playable. I'm doing the what can a 10 year old PC still handle in gaming. :) Did you see the vid by chance?

[@t.s.r.5970]

Palit GTX 660.... that GPU used to be the tough little soldier that kept my rig going :') (still got it in a secondary PC, couldn't bear to get rid of it)

[@nickjames6241]

oh yeah keep it up

[@keiranbowes1979]

just shows old hardware is still capable.By the way what do you use to clean your hardware?

[@techyescity]

+keiran bowes Made a video on what I use to clean all my parts.

[@keiranbowes1979]

Ok

[@FPVSteve0]

+keiran bowes dont you watch his videos?

[@jaja1818]

+keiran bowes you can thank consoles for that hahah..since console hardware get barely any upgrades, games dont really stray too far from their standards..so that means, if your not a nit picky pc gamer..you can basically invest on a used pc with a quad i5 or i7 and just play with gpu upgrades..ie get a i7 2700 and slap on a modern gpu..believe me you wont see any bottlenecks if your just gaming

[@StephenRimingtonrimtech58]

+Stephen Rimington ps be care full though make sure you get the right stuff some cleaners can do damage to your systems

[@fenderoid1111]

Waiting for that 2670v3 though :) .

[@snowy12355]

"naked 500w"

[@snowy12355]

i am ayran

[@moxl_]

i still run a 920, i made this build 2 months ago. it's also rocking a 780TI, running fallout 4 on full graphics :)

[@MANNY100123]

G'stuff! :D

[@pierre_lefevre]

Why so much GTA V nostalgia :/ Now I gotta play it again

[@wisico640]

Please do a comparaison of the before and after temps there is when you change the thermal compound on the board's chipset :O

[@goqwertygo]

i have same almost exact Gigabyte X58-USB3 motherboard. I have a 2.4GHz Xeon E5620 overclocked to 3.98Ghz. I got a 638 cinebench score

[@RamjetX]

Hey, great builds. Any chance you could post up some bios settings for both for 4GHz. It may be a little late now since they probably already have them. But some advise for a 920 to 4GHz would be appreciated. Thanks

[@GTRdeamon]

This is my settings for at 4 GHz I7 920. peecee.dk/uploads/042016/20160415_190754.jpg and peecee.dk/uploads/042016/20160415_190903.jpg but no CPU is the samesom your part may need more or less voltage for the same speed.

[@RamjetX]

Cheer GTRdaemon. I'll see how I go trying to match that. Really appreciated

[@GTRdeamon]

+RamjetX you are welcome.

[@abedfo88]

Brian, is that gigabyte X58 mobo anygood ? just won one on ebay.co.uk for £46! a bargain compared to the other listings!

[@ps3customgamer]

Andrew Bedford The gigabyte boards all work great but won't overclock Xeons or run ECC on the latest bios. Downgrading to the initial 6 core bios update from q3 2010 works fine. I've also found boards with less than 6 memory slots down support ECC.

[@nihao2603]

Right, I know I cant be the only one seeing this and generally I've thoroughly enjoyed all of your build logs, but the stats you put up on screen and the stat top left while in the actual game are two completely different figures, nearly 15 lower than your claimed minimum. (please note again, if there is a reason for this please enlighten me, I am not trying to hate merely curious. Hell if I wanted to hate I wouldn't be replicating your overlord build, because well fun! :D)

[@joselopesroda9745]

Can you make a build for me to play csgo, lol, h1z1 king of the kill, rocket league and unturned? Thanks for the help and happy new year!

[@AdamWykes]

Use old dryer sheets to clean thermal paste up, you'll have a LOT easier time of it, bro. As for the differential between the CPUs, I'm gonna chalk it up to the deleterious effect of Intel® Demand Based Switching being present on the Xeon; turn that off and you should see slightly better performance on that chip.

[@Chrondo702a]

My old Phenom x4 960t @ 3.7 + r9 270 system (now my htpc) scores 4670 on 3dmark firestrike just for reference

[@kurok1tenshi]

the 1st egn i5/i7 still rock hard with a decent gpu, i have i5 750 and i7 920 and both still run any game at high/ultra (1080p@ 60fps) with a good GFX, very few are the games were i have to put on med to achiv the stable framerates ( games like Batman series, project cars or metro) just get a nice overclockable board for them and they are good to go.