Our buggy moral code | Dan Ariely

[@ditjedatje9741]

I was in the hospital for a very long time too. The first 3 months they put me to sleep while they changed the bandage. After that they would set me in a bath and soaked until it would let go. Time consuming I klnow, but when I hear you say they ripped it off, I cringed and felt so grateful. I know how bad it is when they just rip it off, because one time the doctor did it instead of the nurses.. horrible. For you it must have been truly torture. Amazing to see you up there strong and unbroken.

[@beastmry]

+Ditje Datje That's cause Dan Ariely is the greatest human alive!

[@yuricastellobranco]

beastmry why you say he is the great human alive?

[@yuricastellobranco]

Ditje Datje why they dont give THC for patients? is like morfine but there is no adiction or colateral efects...

[@thorkrynu4551]

@@yuricastellobranco the pain levels are so high getting put to sleep sounds like the best plan

[@johnathoncandelario9867]

Dan is truly brilliant. As he draws from his experiences I can understand the notion of what people may model as correct may be completely and utterly incorrect empirically speaking. His pursuit of knowledge and great sense of humor makes him one of the best TED speakers of all time.

[@ishitvvats2044]

did not age well

[@911operations6]

I am a burn survivor as well, being in the hospital for a long time just simply falls on how much do people care about the job they are doing. I had nurses that had what alot of you are saying here, "time is Money", but through out the screaming during bandage changes I had many nurses that did exactly what Dan said, prolonged pain with breaks, those were the nurses that understood and cared about there job. I commend those peoples

[@kirkgarcia]

I know but this video is not about nurses pulling bandages out of burned people's bodies. It was used just as an example in a tiny part of the speech. I think you didn't understand the point of this video. Your comment is irrelevant

[@AGPEcko]

Still one of my favourite TEDtalks. Really really great guy.

[@benjaminzubaly1873]

He’s actually a fraud. He fabricated data.

[@billybarnes6961]

@@benjaminzubaly1873 so..he cheated? LOL ironic

[@meganmusa6663]

Amazing video. This gentlemen is amazing.

[@sarumate91]

One of the best TED talks I've ever heard.

[@ik04]

Nice , clean presentation with an interesting subject and almost no personal bias. Finally!

[@benjaminzubaly1873]

Actually, he is a fraud. He fabricated this research data. Look it up.

[@fordcredit84]

I always enjoy Dan Ariely's talks. smart and scientific yet practical.

[@benjaminzubaly1873]

He fabricated his data.

[@dcrcoonghe1]

he is so pleasing to listen to

[@AyushPandit]

Amazing Ted talk!

[@kaaajeee]

i wonder whether there is an option of adding subtitles in my mother language to spread some of these talks among my people. i would happily translate it myself.

[@ankam6472]

I've just thought the same :) and foud this - www.ted.com/participate/translate

[@xrotarebil]

I have read this guy's book. He's an awesome writer.

[@hsgrain490]

I wonder how this compares to experiments done ten, twenty years ago? Do the results change with the state of the country / world? A good vid.

[@isaacsoffer8530]

They've been performing cohort studies for that interest. They study groups of people based on cohort, then they compare it to previous generations/cohorts and see how it changes.

[@AlanMcCrindle]

Dan's final comments" - Just think how much better my life would have been if the nurses listened to my intuitions"? - well maybe if the nurses did what Dan intuited he would never had ended up persuing this path of behavioral economics

[@TempestTossedWaters]

I read his book, forgot about it, randomly stumbled on this video and realized it's him.

[@tonybyrne2766]

Was new to me. Great insight, Dan.

[@colinm.3419]

"...three years later when I left the hospital..." 2:02 I sure hope he had a good book to read...

[@HeavyMetalMouse]

It is generally taken as a baseline assumption, by those who deal in scientific thought and research, that holding beliefs up to experiment is the core of what science is about. The final statement seemed not so much to be suggesting that people don't generally -want- to examine their intuitions for whatever reason, but a reinforcing that putting those intuitions under examination *is* the best course of action, regardless of how intuitive a person you are. It is always better to have evidence.

[@Neanderthalcouzin]

No I mean Universities have an independent ethics process. It's where you submit your research proposal and if the ethics committee think it's okay (i.e. it isn't too cruel or questionable) they say okay. Universities have a MAJOR liability in that they have a conveyor belt of never-ending research occurring, and they need to be very safe to avoid being sued, or just being negligent or allowing inappropriate research. Having dealt with ethics committees, I'm genuinely interested how he did it.

[@eLurkr]

this is an old but great talk

[@Nameless3567]

I think the pain that nurses inflicted on him ultimately paid off. BTW I read Dan's book and it was really thought provoking. What he has presented in his talk is a short summary in fact iota of the book. Human have irrational behaviour that is something we unknowingly do but he made us realize about that via empirical method and really intelligent experiment. I am really thankful to him for coming up with such great work. :)

[@AlkisGD]

"What internet are you from" he says xD That line had me in stitches x'D

[@moscowboy3994]

Did anyone after watching all these great Dan's videos understand what was actually the practical way to use this anecdotal theory? I mean we all like these wow moments about unexpected research results and we think "wow, these guys must know some OTHER way to make people do this and not that and probably have a magic pill". But in reality Dan Ariely does two things: 1) he tries to prove his main statement that people more often behave irrationally 2)Tells success stories when somebody did something not obvious to those irrational people and it worked miracles. Cool, right? But, in fact, here and there Dan says that they, whoever they it was, did this or that based solely on research, which means testing several ideas, approaches etc. I suspect that this means these researchers didn't know in advance what results they would get - Dan admits it himself. I personally quite like this entertaining look at things Dan is preaching, but eventually it comes to one thing: does he or anyone from his team has any other weaponry than constant testing different ideas? What does this brilliant theory adds to the testing process that has been on the marked for ages? I honestly don't see any "meat" behind all this or the reason I should hire this guys opposed to hiring any other good marketing team doing research and testing. Could anyone prove me wrong? I would be only glad. P.S. Pls don't try to "talk me into it" - just show me a practical 1-2-3-benefit method, if there's one.

[@nonchalantd]

Part of the reason why the nurses didn't want to remove the bandages slowly was because it would have taken longer. Also, many people in healthcare have a toughness mentality where they try to convince themselves and their patients to be mentally tough and persevere in the face of adversity.

[@xabcx]

True. But I also think there's the pain of the nurses to consider as well. I don't think any nurse enjoys inflicting pain upon a patient, and I think the action of having to cause an extended amount of pain hurts a persons psyche far more than a momentary lunge. Just my 2c.

[@cyan_oxy6734]

Anastasia is always an option though.

[@shreychhabra1925]

is there written text of this speach anywhere?

[@TheAnnoyingGunner]

+Shrey Chhabra www.ted.com/talks/dan_ariely_on_our_buggy_moral_code/transcript

[@shreychhabra1925]

thanks..

[@tdurran]

That's a fascinating talk.

[@zuppers]

Awesome talk.

[@wushish]

Very intriguing

[@DinanEX]

I love TED talks

[@mmarkusgaming]

12:20 remind me of *Abu Ghraib prison* when the CIA got away with killing a person, suddenly torturing detainees was became a lighter -normal thing; (..and on the top of that there was complete anonimity & sleep deprivation)

[@KnasiTaket]

Why are they reposting videos? I do love a bit of Dan Ariely though

[@JayBlueToYou]

Very interesting/ This is one of the good ones.

[@2010sunshine]

👍👌 Very interesting topic

[@TheLivirus]

Great talk. He really put his finger on what I think is the key problem with modern politics. CEOs across the globe in charge of a successful companies spend fortunes on generating information on which to make informed decisions and thereby reduce risk. ...but when it comes to a President of an entire nation, basing positions on intuition is suddenly the norm. Statistics, studies and facts are only acknowledged and applied if they are compatible with the intuition. It's so dumb.

[@saadasim]

It would be interesting to do this test on cheating in different countries and different cultures.

[@Serpreme]

Good video, even if just higher res version.

[@RocknCorruptrepublic]

Isn't this the neuromarketing blogger dude? :D I love behavioral economics... actually Morgan Spurlock's TED Talk got me more into it. haha.

[@AjsLilBro]

Dan Ariely asks, Are we in control of our decisions? Dan Ariely: Why we think it's OK to cheat Dan Ariely: Beware conflicts of interest

[@renjinkat]

gold

[@Riverdale270]

He has two videos here if I remember correctly...

[@C_R_Plays]

Good talk , very interesting

[@Bluemann]

Good Talk

[@naybobdenod]

Excellent

[@ongelvin]

Hmm... reminds me of small exaggerations on resumes.

[@frankbrown6124]

Fantastic speech. I want to elaborate on intuition though as I have found that intuition can be improved by checking it against your logic. Balancing those to forces of thought leads to more accurate intuitive thoughts and actions.

[@frankbrown6124]

Logic is only half of a whole. You have to be able to trust your instincts and know yourself which logic doesn't help with. Think of when someone is staring at you without your knowing and you feel that vibe of being watched. That is intuitive processes instead of logic. The logic comes in the reflection of how you knew you where being watched.

[@Letrus100]

+Frank Brown The your Intuition your talking about is simply the relation of past events to future ones. You are really using logic not intuition.

[@Letrus100]

I'm not sure I understand you. I was just saying what most people think is intuition is really the relation of previously held knowledge to future events and not the literal definition of intuition.

[@Sixthfred]

Man , people really need to associate themselves with more TED videos . Theres videos only viewed in such amounts ~

[@nonchalantd]

There's a movie about that entitled "In Time."

[@George4943]

Random thoughts I get from this. We are more forgiving of our in-group than of any out-group. . . . When I see someone with whom I rub shoulders cheat just a little I forgive him. . . . When he cheats a lot, though, oh my! Now he reflects badly on me by association. Throw him out. . . . This guy likes me so much he will give me money for my campaign. I'll cheat just a little, like all my colleagues, and pay him back with earmarks. . . . Crony Capitalism. . . . Market Manipulators. . . .

[@mindsprawl]

I thought this would be crap, but it was really good.

[@RTX94]

I find it interesting how most TED speakers are Ivy-League graduates.

[@wushish]

I think the real reason behind the nurses decision is that it simply took less of their time. It sounds harsh but it's their job to get things like this and when you have multiple patients you try and get things done as quickly as possible.

[@mtdeezy]

That's an awesome point.

[@ShadoFXPerino]

maybe the bandages had to be removed quickly or other patients would die from neglect?

[@sarumate91]

Any specific recommendations?

[@Gouldsonuk]

Just had to sight Ariely in my Economics Dissertation. Weird to put a name to a face.

[@gulllars]

Yes, he did. He talked about the same things. I wonder if this is a re-upload.

[@strangersinlondon_]

Nurses from my part of the world are trained to listen to patients and collaborate with them regarding their care. #justsayin

[@krombopulos_michael]

depends on the video. TED talks usually are decent for debates.

[@Crazyrat84]

Hmm, am I wrong or have Dan Ariely talked on a TED-talk befor? I remember this.

[@davidkui311]

i think they reposted this talk because of Dan Ariely's new book

[@ChristopherJManess]

Things that make you go, "hmm".

[@rhyswilliams7376]

Hey guys just wondering if someone can help me? I need to answer these two questions for uni and can't be fucked to do it. a) Some factors that influence people to cheat more? b) What causes people to cheat less? Thanks, boys.

[@Crazyrat84]

Oh yeah! That's right, I remember it now :) Thank you for kickstarting my brain. ^^

[@renjinkat]

it amazes me both the quality of his talks and the low amount of views his talks gets in comparison to other TedTalks

[@benjaminzubaly1873]

Probably a good thing. He fabricated research data.

[@Internet151]

I remember seeing this before too.

[@Joachim1010]

Maybe the nurses don't have so much time to spend with one patient?

[@rosemacaskie]

I knew a person who said that the honest or kind were vain people, people who were too vain to do the necessary to help their family, etc. that is how you teach your children to be dishonest to be mafia type people. I was breath taken, and and scared, here was a person who could make me look bad whatever i did.

[@DixyRae]

[citation needed]

[@rotnakleugim]

Repost?

[@ManintheArmor]

"Time is money", an all too familiar phrase. Then it makes me think, what if Time became a currency?

[@nonchalantd]

Yeah, I loved the concept of the movie.

[@victoryang2094]

Have you ever stared into the sky and noticed a bunch of little dots swirling around🤔

[@BebeBoi674]

Love it!

[@shadywalker2159]

Word, I second that.

[@TesserId]

I'd like to see and experiment with people paid to cheat over nine sessions and then not paid to cheat on the tenth.

[@Orsbore]

What? This is reuploaded? Whoa, that means TEDtalks is cheating!

[@TheFireflyGrave]

Great idea and presentation. But I wouldn't qualify fudging from 4 correct answers to 7 (on average) to be just a little bit of cheating; that's fudging your results by 75%!

[@gachacaspa]

Hmmm but people when they really mean to cheat will cheat a lot more than that :/

[@Letrus100]

+TheFireflyGrave It was out of 20 questions though.

[@birchpc]

TheFireflyGrave no it's %15 more

[@stephentsang2000]

I respect your "opinion", despite it's self-contradictory.

[@InYourLostEyes]

I love that movie!

[@elizabethbaird3604]

As a person who has been repeatedly locked up in psychiatric hospitals, losing my autonomy in nearly every respect, I can only say that your treatment team should have respected your right to make your own decisions about your own body. I’m actually appalled that wasn’t the case, here. Instead, it was a classic case of “About you, without you”. In situations where a person lacks the capacity to understand the consequences of their decision making, they should still be consulted and have their views considered to the maximum extent that it accords with their understanding. You were fully compos mentis and should have been given the absolute final say in your treatment - save for some (not all) consideration being given to the time the nurses had available for you versus the other patients. That issue would be more relevant in a public hospital than a private one. Your favourite nurse who wanted to limit the duration of her own suffering caused by witnessing your suffering, and possibly also being the cause of it, shouldn’t be a nurse. Her attitude (including the fact that she freely admitted it, indicating that she believed her mental pain should rightly be part of the balancing exercise) was, in my view, disgraceful. If a nurse had confessed such personal concerns to me, I would have said “Tough tittie!”

[@reafdaw01]

He has two talks and this is a re-upload.

[@Suertsje]

thanks :)

[@organdva]

This is what anarchists are always talking about: give workers control of their firm and they will act responsibly.

[@TheaDragonSpirit]

Very much liked this video :-)

[@USMerchantMarineCaptainVic]

Merchant Mariners LUV our buggy moral code.

[@stephentsang2000]

In sales business, there is one thing called tolerable sin. You cheat the customers on things that people would consider trivial or not too significant, but not something that would arouse people's reactions. Taking cokes out of the fridge is one thing, but taking bank notes is something that would lead to big consequences. Taking 10 cents coins is a tolerable sin though. It hinges on people's preconceptions over different "things", instead of the amount. This speaker should study more.

[@DeoMachina]

TEDtalks make me misanthropic

[@beatlewood]

I notice this speaker received a standing ovation and the "texting" speaker did not. Is it because he visually placed a heart wrenching photo at the end of his burned body and the "texting" speaker didn't put a photo of the girl being raped by her father? Both speakers equally appealed to me, just an observation.

[@honeymonster147]

*moves eyes one inch to the left..* yep your right

[@420waltliquor]

But if his bandages weren't ripped off, he would have never conducted those experiments and this video wouldn't exsist. Would his life really have been better?

[@Caine61]

A PERSONAL FUDGE FACTOR

[@HakendaNatan]

good

[@stephentsang2000]

Thank you~ That makes exactly my point. We sales people are better than these so-called scientists in understanding human beings immoral behaviors.

[@TheBeatKeeper]

I am more than familiar with the sales field. It repulses me. I found that in almost all cases, the better of a salesperson one is, the shittier they are as human beings.

[@aaronTNGDS9]

Very interesting talk about humanity's sense of morality, especially in today's climate where dishonesty is so rampant and the rewards are so huge when you do that many become conditioned to want to gravitate towards cheating. Another example of morality being distorted or thrown out the window altogether can be seen in the aftermath of Bacon's Rebellion in 1676 and the invention of the label 'White'. When the label of 'white' with all the social privileges built into that label and status was offered to the Irish indentured servants in the aftermath of Bacon's Rebellion, they quickly began to abandon their healthy relationship with their African counterparts in the work force of the British elites and turned increasingly hostile over time towards the Africans who they intermarried with and saw as equals before the privilege of 'White' was granted. The echoes of that newfound hostility once social privileges were accorded by way of the label 'White' are still reverberating, and ring stronger today than in 1676. I am Aaron, a Baha'i in Portsmouth in the USA.

[@entertain_myself]

irrationalities are everywhere and depend on everyone's intuition. #12 TED

[@benjaminzubaly1873]

This man fabricated his data. He doesn’t deserve this.

[@DazraelArianos]

This guy doesn't seem to understand the obvious answer to the bandage removal choice by the nurses. The faster they finish with you, the faster they finish their required duties, and they can spend more time on break.

[@ambujarind1991]

they really think that quick is better.. they think it's for the good of the patients.. i had the same experience.. quick and intense is better than slow and prolonged according to them.. even doctors, when they have all day do the same thing, do the same.. it's very easy to think that way.. i saw a survey of common people, not doctors or nurses, showed a 50-50 split about this question..

[@caspermoes6762]

He made up data right?