2023 Honda Civic Type R 17k Mile Update - Vermont Therapy Drive (POV Binaural Audio)

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[@user59371]

17k miles already! Good on you for actually driving it 👍

[@OuterspaceRo]

Shout out all the Tedward early birds

[@TakeoCade]

Yeah 👍

[@surotto4321]

Shout out to your mother

[@honda_miata]

You are one of the primary reasons I got into my FL5. 24k miles and 1 year later of daily driving, I couldn't ask for much more.

[@PeterDePolo]

idk if you live in a colder climate, but how’s the lack of heated seats and steering wheel. Kind of something that keeps me away from buying it as a daily as I could just go with other performance cars that offer more

[@honda_miata]

@@PeterDePolo I'm in Virginia with Chicago bones. Came from a mk7.5 GTI daily with heated seats and certainly miss it. Compromises were made.

[@ZWortek]

@@PeterDePolo One thing that makes the lack of a heated steering wheel tolerable is that the air vents are super close to the 9 and 3 position on the wheel.

[@CameronLuck-q5z]

A few weeks ago I was on that mountain road with all of the rocks, I had just been on a hike and was leaving and I came around one of those corners and then I saw a blue with white stripes 2006 ford GT. There is a large contingent of people who drive their cars on those roads, and generally people are very responsible which is nice to see!

[@monkeeb]

Your channel inspired me to buy my FL5 and I'm so glad I did. These drive videos are the best.

[@mjkempe2]

No way, you drove past my house! A couple tips if you're in the Stowe area again, if you went straight on the roundabout at 10:55 and took VT-109 for a few miles there is a great road on the right called Hogback Road with nice winding corners, little traffic and a pedestrian suspension bridge as part of the Long Trail which is a great place to take a break. Just repaved a couple years ago and much more fun than VT-15 where there's a 95% chance you'll get stuck behind a beater Subaru doing 10 under. Also if you turn left at the end of the road at 18:13 (Stagecoach RD) there is a fantastic coffee spot called The Roastery, owned by a couple of KZbinrs.

[@trackntrail2869]

I just picked up my 2025 Type R a month ago - such an incredible car! I did the Type S ADS module and am working on a bit of sound deadening to reduce highway noise. Some Killmat and thin acoustic foam in the doors and trunk makes a world of difference for only ~10lb of extra weight.

[@dilsherbuttar5424]

Would love to hear about the results of the sound deadening.

[@joeblacc8573]

Type S owner here. Super interested in hearing how the sound deadening came out. Got a couple rattles etc that I think could be remedied with some dynamat etc idk

[@xkzlx]

how's the pricing out in the market? are there still mark ups?

[@joeblacc8573]

@@xkzlx not to speak for OP but here in GA the Type R is scarce but it is available at MSRP @ a few dealers.

[@nicholasvella4412]

The oil intervals are based on profitability for the dealer and manufacturer 100% Tedward! The BMW intervals are the best example of this haha. Always love the insight and proper knowledge from your videos.

[@slocarfr]

finally, someone who drives their fun cars

[@dre32pitt]

we out here.. we're just too busy driving to post videos ;)

[@whatskrakin37]

@@dre32pittI wanna be like you one day. Driving my fun sports cars in silence and having a blast.

[@dre32pitt]

@@whatskrakin37 Haha, my cars are anything but silent.. I do plan on doing some filming next year though..

[@ShaiyanHossain]

im also at 18k miles in 7 months on my FL5 haha, as a commuter its great, but it also entices me to take the long and fun way home! have been able to meet so many great people because of it too!

[@sayurasem]

You inspired me to buy my Si when you had yours. It’s awesome thank you!

[@GuilhermeTeixeira]

This is now my dream car thanks to you and TheTopher.

[@SKGAMER-rh4lo]

TEDWARD MY HERO

[@20gravedigger11]

Great memories seeing the Mountain Road in Stowe. I did a 4-day freelance production job at the Mountain Lodge back in 2011 during peak foliage. It was amazing!

[@benderaviation]

You inspired me to buy mine. I knew when a lot of the auto journalists were buying the Type-R that it was the right decision. Almost 5000 miles now in 9 months and I do have a few complains. Center cup holders get in the way and are too small on the door. Exhaust is too quiet. Gas tank is too small. Suspension is too stiff (fixed with the Type-S module). Pretty minor things for what is overall an extremely well rounded and impressive car.

[@CStromP]

I feel like the 1-2 is the most relatable thing about this video my 06 accord has that same issue.

[@NellysaintsSROP]

Just got 25' FL5 and i found my end game, coming from a MKV Supra. I needed a car that is convenient to carry people/storage, fun, reliable, and manual.

[@xkzlx]

how's the pricing out in the market? are there still mark ups?

[@ZWortek]

@@xkzlx In the PNW they're still all $5k+ markup and flying off lots when I was looking a couple months ago. Forced my hand into a DE5 for MSRP.

[@parsley0120]

Love this! My partner and I live out basically on the opposite side of the country but we come back and visit his family in VT for a couple weeks every year. I so look forward to it, it’s beautiful and we have a great time each year.

[@tehbrutenextdoor]

Vermont is a special kind of beautiful in the fall. I drove through upstate NY, Vermont and NH to Kennebunkport at the end of October this year. Hit Acadia National Park before I went home.

[@alvinsolano]

Thanks so much for always giving us these FL5 drive POVs! It carried me through my long wait the last 2 years-I finally picked mine up this past summer. It’s always been nice living vicariously through you in the ownership experience up until it became a reality. These videos are awesome, and I always appreciate your commentary!

[@meizind6555]

as much as i love the type r, i really hope the winter m3 content will happen this season, those are my favorite videos ever

[@klaudiuszkonopacki7870]

I switched to a Honda Civic 8gen HB a couple of weeks ago from diesel Opel and my god how I enjoy that car! It's my second honda and I i don't think it's gonna be last

[@cabates0114]

Crazy that you mention Lenoir. I visited there for work merely days before that hurricane swept through the towns just west of there. Man, I hope that area is bouncing back as quickly as possible…

[@diegoalvarez6861]

Looks like a lot of fun to drive!

[@nitrostackr]

Just shy of 10k miles on my Type R, glad you’re enjoying it as much as I am!

[@BullittHilts]

Loving the footage on this one! With regard to the oil change intervals you discussed-my wife & I just got a 2024 Sienna and they say every 10k for oil changes. They acknowledge a break in period but don’t recommend changing the original oil till the 10k mark. I’m planning to maintain the car at the 5k mile interval so as to limit risk of long term engine issues. We plan to keep this car as long as possible.

[@GabrielJohnson-bc4fy]

The Civic Type R is my favorite Honda. Maybe one day I can get one!

[@runningdude1000]

The fact that you know about GVBC is so cool!

[@RobinBCG]

I recent did a trip from Philly to Acadia National Park in my WRX and the roads up north were extremely fun. Would definitely make the trip again.

[@TedwardDrives]

Acadia is magical

[@Adison0529]

Really cozy drive, you inspired me to go out for one myself this upcoming weekend if it's dry and somewhat sunny at least. :) Turbo S doesn't really excite me in any way. Ofc my eyes are glued to it if I ever see one (it's a 911 at the end of the day), but no particular emotions follow, but whenever I think more about it, I realize this is such a good luxurious daily as long as you do your groceries regularly. Top down must've been so relaxing on that day.

[@martacore2]

This might be what I've been missing. My '13 GTI was towards EOL a couple years back, and I went with the "adult" thing and bought a hybrid rav4. Man.. do I miss mobbing around NH backroads in my GTI. This video is making me reminisce.

[@kyleroberts6472]

You can just feel him wanting to rip this road this entire video haha

[@TedwardDrives]

The urge was real

[@dustinpward]

nice drive. respectful.

[@martinkasemsan9099]

You are living the dream, sir!

[@dkinsk]

Love how you drove by the Alchemist!

[@DR_CarShow]

I'm originally from NH, so those are my kind of roads! Great video. I have a 911 Turbo, C7 Z06, C8 Z06, but love driving my '24 CTR as a daily. It is such a great do everything type of car, especially as a hatchback. Yeah, 2 doors might be better for most, but I appreciate the capacity of the hatch. Happy motoring!

[@Paco_Gaepedores]

Missed your cute Type R :3 Happy 17k miles woohoo 🥳❤

[@agios1913]

Great car one of the best of all time in auto history

[@Pitcch]

Always love seeing your videos (and very rarely on the streets around Mass 👀) Keep it up!

[@nando338]

Hey Tedward! Love your vids man you were the reason I got my 2023 Si and it's been amazing. I wanted to ask however if you would do a pov drive of refining driving a manual transmission. I learned about 4 years ago and so driving this has been easy however sometimes I find myself confused on what I can do better.

[@avi-if9eg]

10:10 i bought a WRX that comes with “2 years” of included maintenance, but the fine print says like (3 intervals). I went through my 2 years of maintenance in about 6 months lol

[@mateocortes1]

this was oddly very satisfying 😂

[@tylerengborg1750]

The rocks around 5:30 do get pretty scary! Luckily you somehow managed to go on a non-crowded day. But man I loved driving that road in my GLI a month or two ago. I'd be surprised to see people togue down that road, but lots of people do causal runs though it.

[@seregriddy7928]

Devine build AWD type r in Washington....wicked sick.,..guys a legend

[@RichardinNC1]

I got my mountain drive therapy a few weeks ago on the Tail of the Dragon and Cherohala. Great roads to and from there as well!

[@importraceramimportraceam1756]

I need to get down there. Everyone knows the tail but Cherohala seems AMAZING as well (after some research).

[@RichardinNC1]

@@importraceramimportraceam1756 The Cherohala has big sweeping curves and climbs from 1500' to 5390' elevation! A great road you can go far faster than the 40-45 mph limit.

[@majoriix]

Ooo I'm earlier for once haha! I have to say I completely agree with you on that last bit about how stiffer (or lower for that matter) doesn't necessarily mean better handling, personally where I am I wouldn't want my cars any lower than they already are with the condition of some roads. My 90's coupe is running oem springs and shocks. I've just been using polybushes to improve the handling, the roll bars alone made a huge difference! I'd recommend to anyone to try swapping out some bushes, maybe a strut brace or two before immediately sticking on expensive coil-overs and lowering the car to the floor.

[@axledog7297]

I don't know how you keep the shift lights/alert enabled. I couldn't stand one day of it.

[@juergenstraub]

Awesome road

[@RoxUnlimited]

Completely right on the oil changes. Idk what vehicle I drive. Always changing oil every 5k miles

[@mtshark7]

Awesome review Tom!😊 I'm at 11,000 on my Integra Type-S. I've owned it a little over a year. I love driving it, but now I feel I have to be cautious cos the summer tires don't last all that long.

[@znghant]

Damn it's brutal watching people live your dream (ripping the Honda around Vermont... Jay Peak features some incredible roads)

[@M0D3S0PH3R]

Hey man love your videos! Saw your civic type r drive from a couple months ago n was really intrigued by garage 42. if you’re able could you make a tour video on the place n maybe talk a bit about how the business behind it works? i think that would be awesome especially for young enthusiasts like myself who are tryna find ways to make a good living in the car space n have the time n money to enjoy the cars we love! thanks man keep up the great work

[@RallyElite]

I was on the Tail of the Dragon and there were some 'leaf peepers' down the road which is just SO dangerous considering the reputation that road has, had to bring my suburban from about 55-70 down to 20 because they were running across the road and stuff.

[@piercejohnson9036]

Feel that on the oil changes. I have a 23' Kia Soul. I put around 5,000 miles a month on it. So I change the oil every month/ 5,000 miles. I'd rather be safe then risk it, lol.

[@Pividol]

Seeing this just makes we wants a civic even more. (An fa5 is what I really want)

[@Greekphysique22]

When it comes to Honda transmissions 1-2 is a more cumbersome process when they’re cold. Having experience and own Hondas/Acura’s with B, F, K, J, and current K20C series. Once they’re warm you can blast through them. Also some Honda transmissions do better with GM synchromesh friction modifier manual transmission fluid. J series in particular for my TL type s

[@30hours51]

Honda civic Type R is the best car i've driven.

[@NBPT428]

Great place to stretch the legs on a car. I got the impression from some of the video your Type R is broken in and running nicely. Stay safe!!

[@bojanmilankovic]

Tend to agree with you in many cases about oil change intervals being weirdly long these days. My 2024 Jetta Sport calls for oil changes every 10,000 miles. I've been following this routine for as long as my oil changes are free at the dealer - when it's on me to do it myself, I'll probably lower that interval. With that said, I inspected my oil prior to taking it in and getting it changed and it looked much more healthy than the oil on the previous three cars I've owned, at lower intervals. It was definitely ready to be changed, but my old Silverado's oil looked worse at 6,000 miles than my VW's does at 10,000. I think there has been some advancements in engines and lubricants. Still though, I am generally skeptical of these long intervals in general. It seems to be working for me, but that's just one case with one car.

[@michaelmeredith912]

Awesome! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@skolenimation]

I suggest you check out a Dustball Rally GT. There's been a few New England ones and now the Adirondacks. Best way to discover some amazing driving roads in your own backyard.

[@WyFoster]

Hope I'll trade my current gen Civic Si for next gen Type R. Si is still my favorite car I've owned.

[@SScratchingSScratcherSS]

I am at 5k Miles, about to do my first oil change, lightly modified, about to tune it! I drive the FL5 daily, and it is the perfect daily performance car! I am leaning towards 2019 NSX or 2002 BNR34 R34 GTR for my weekend car. I am looking for a coup and ONLY JDM.

[@nickwalsh2335]

Love the videos! Could you try to find a na k swapped Eg hatch to drive? I don’t know if you’ve posted a video of an eg hatch before.

[@tylerntran]

Just in time for my lunch break

[@cjthemanthelegend]

Tedward I think its time you found yourself an E90 335D to take for a spin. I would love to see that

[@boots_n_coots]

Your and Topher’s positive reviews were a big factor when buying my own Type R. For which I thank you! But I need help choosing an exhaust. What’s the hot setup for the FL5? AWE? Borla? Apexi? Tomei?

[@ShaiyanHossain]

apexi best sounding imo not too loud but loud enough and still keeps valve if you want it you don't even need an exhaust lol, just deleting both resonators make a nice sound on these

[@MisakiLeasim]

How’s the FWD on wet steep hills? I’m so used to Subarus that going FWD sounds like a step back to me.

[@Nitrolore41]

A super vehicle, nothing else can be said ✌️

[@davidzebar6876]

FYI you can legally pass on double yellows in Vermont

[@CharlesCA]

Can you talk about the 1-2 shift issues more? I thought it was just me doing something wrong. It feels crunchy if you rush it.

[@houseking9211]

It's kind of funny to me how similar the fuel economy is on the type r and the b235r 9-5 aeros, I think the gearing might be a little taller on the 9-5, at 84mph it gets around 27-26.5 mpg, but around town, on 55mph speed limit roads, and on the average 77mph highway trips it's super similar

[@cheatcode1232]

Can you please try to drive an 05 Subaru Sti? Been wanting to see you drive one and hear your thoughts on them.

[@alexp6409]

As there are more type R’s on the used market now I’d really like to go test drive one to see how it feels compared to my Si. The problems I anticipate are 1) no good way to carry a mountain bike (it won’t fit in the hatch, it can’t do a hitch bc of exhaust, and I won’t do a roof rack) 2) low MPG (relative to the Si) and low fuel range (

[@ravichjakkaratropart5083]

13:59 I agree, Honda should have made an N/A type R or maybe at least a version with 9k revving N/A K20/K24 with Type R chassis. Maybe call it an Si-R and would slot between the Si and the Type R.

[@Ben-bg2eg]

Do you edit your vids with premiere pro or final cut? I feel like my premiere pro exported stuff never looks this crisp. Love the Type R vids!

[@jc3maxima]

Hey Ted, have you put any mods since owning your Type R?

[@Alexiosftw]

I know the type R is a little much for a first car with the price and every thing, but would the SI be a better choice in that case?

[@importraceramimportraceam1756]

I also came from an M3 to a Type R (FK8 in my case). Quite impressive driving cars if I must say. As much as I miss the sound of the s65, the lack of concern for things like rod bearings and the tremendous handling make me forget about it. How much better is the FL5 vs FK8?

[@TedwardDrives]

It’s like 10% better which goes a long way in feeling complete. Not a deal breaker if I had an fk8. But it’s enough to be noticeable

[@djaric]

I'm getting the sticky steering on my '23 with shy of 9k miles. Not too bad in comfort but very noticeable in sport or +R. 🥲 Sounds like a spring problem though as it will be getting put away for winter.

[@TedwardDrives]

I almost said “no it’s a damper problem” until I realized you meant the season 😂

[@djaric]

@TedwardDrives 😅 sounds like a problem for Spring! There we go.

[@YeahItsYourBoyG]

13:57 sounds like we need a modern s2000 xD

[@grantbixon1967]

Just traded in my 2016 gt350 for a 2025 civic type r and I have to agree u can’t hit a hard 1st to second. I kept julting the car because I’m so used to banging 1 to 2

[@R19Robbin]

Fun hot hatch 👌

[@Woogzzzie]

I have a 2024 Elantra N and I’m not gonna give you flack for saying the brakes in the CTR are better lol. It is factually correct! Both cars have their pros and cons but if you’re into cars you’ll look past the brand biases and realize that both cars are amazing in their own ways. Keep up the great work! Always so calming watching and listening to your drives and talks😊

[@importraceramimportraceam1756]

While the CTR is known to be “better” I believe it’s ever so slightly incrementally better and definitely not $10k better.

[@official_commanderhale965]

Honestly only badge snobs wouldn't see the close performance qualities, but the FL5 should be on top from the +$10k MSRP over the Elantra N MSRP. I haven't tracked my 23 Elantra N so the brakes seem to be plenty, but I switched the wheel and tire combo for 18" Enkies and Continental Extreme Contact 02's.

[@NinoDriven]

@@importraceramimportraceam1756yup, agree! Without the price difference though I’d take the CTR any day. I would miss the exhaust on the an though haha

[@NinoDriven]

@@official_commanderhale965man I really wanna switch to 18’s on mine. Is the ride much nicer? The 19’s are so loud lmao

[@akxdev]

I hope you got to hit VT-107 on the way up to Stowe (though coming from MA, you likely did not). It's the best driving road on the East Coast, without a doubt.

[@Fullsend.Automotive]

God I want this car so bad

[@hhaste]

I'm super tempted to get a CTR or Integra Type S but I don't know if I can do FWD.. I need to test drive one.

[@Pablo-ls6fh]

7:45 my great grandparents old house

[@PerhapsGuy]

12:18 my only real complaint with my 2024 Integra. I hope the newer infotainment systems that are coming with the refreshed models will be a drop-in upgrade for my car, because the car is otherwise perfect imo

[@brentonthomson3747]

I have a 2024 civic Sport Touring 6MT with just about 40 k miles now. I have the steering issue that the recall is for. As it is, I can’t go down the road without my steering locking up that causes me to make an aggressive input to get it to free. This is admittedly a big negative for me and makes me reconsider the entire purchase, despite how good everything else on the car is. The GTI’s or even Hundayis wouldn’t have these issues.

[@justinkrizenesky]

Question for the next vid, Tom; now that you have the Lexus winter daily, replacing the 'harder' miles this car got the past few years, do you regret getting this? You have the M5 and the 911 for your 'fun' miles, would you not get the TypeR in hindsight? Or maybe getting something MORE fun for its limited usage?

[@TedwardDrives]

I still treat the Honda as a fun reliable daily. The Porsche and BMW are more for special trips

[@peterbiviano747]

Have you driven new z wats your thoughts thanks

[@jasonwhite1616]

Those chicanes are the latest attempt to keep semi trucks out of the notch. Several get stuck every summer which closes the road for hours.

[@siddhantsehgal9900]

If you had 45k and had no other cars, would you still buy your Type R or any other car? Great videos btw!

[@Carlos.Rivera]

Yes, it have double "purpose" and the extra cargo is no brainer

[@steve9348]

Man I can’t believe a camary almost cost as much as a type r without the markup of a type r

[@Nazy101]

Yessssss

[@ElliWoelfin]

Instinctively I want to say it needs more power but what I'm really wanting is a more exciting engine. I know (at least for the last while) that's not Honda's thing, it's chassis/handling, but I'm definitely an engine-first gal, much as I do love Honda.

[@ShaiyanHossain]

the new type r's arent as sonorous as the old b and k series hondas, or even s2000 but they make up for it in dynamics and speed. personally with the pedal dance i have wheelspin up until 3rd so I'm good on power, but its still easy to tune these motors. I think they could and should work on the exhaust though, Integra type s fixes it

[@ElliWoelfin]

Have seen vids with like an ATAK and yeah, an exhaust helps a lot. Even Topher's with just the Type S exhaust does a lot, as you say.

[@jgosse013]

Is the FL5 Type R worth the $8K-$15K delta compared to an Elantra N, GR Corolla, or even a FK8 Type R?

[@TedwardDrives]

I think yes because the interior is way more exciting than the Corolla. And the Elantra is great but it’s not as well rounded as a performance car. If you need AWD then you can’t do better than the Toyota though. It has great character

[@bryanevoy1234]

Interesting comment I think Tedward made in this video about lack of smoothness on 1st to 2nd shift in the FL5. I own a 2024 FL5 and his KZbin channel was a huge part of my research on the car. What’s better than POV driving videos for a car that I couldn’t test drive because Honda dealers literally have the cars roped off on their showroom floors and a request for a test drive is crazy talk apparently. My FL5 when shifting from 1st to 2nd isn’t a smooth shift and is notchy to get into 2nd, especially when the car is cold. Is this a normal thing? It’s really smooth for all another shifts but 1st to 2nd is not. Any insight on your comment on this Tedward or any other FL5 owners is appreciated. Still love the car and don’t care either way, but would be interested to hear if this is an FL5 thing or just me.

[@Laxy90]

Are you a truck guy aswell?

[@goatsplitter]

When I had this gen SI, it totally had the sticky steering thing. It was only at highway speeds it seemed like or when the steering wheel is mostly centered on a highway vs. driving around town and moving it a lot. Nice to know that was a recalled thing. It was pretty annoying. Not like get rid of the car annoying or anything but noticeable and annoying lol edit: PS: you make me miss the SI and the civic in general and there's an at MSRP type R at the dealer a few miles from me. Don't do this to me lol