Teenager Refuses to Reveal Motive for Killing Family in Nearby House | Alec Kreider Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

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@gothiccastle1681
@gothiccastle1681 Жыл бұрын
“many psychics also wasted police time” lmao Todd’s deadpan reads always get me
@oldyellerschannel4676
@oldyellerschannel4676 7 ай бұрын
The Police allowed the information, if time was wasted, that is on them. If the psychic had been right, would an apology be forthcoming? Sorry, but his childish attacks on people and places, for NO reason are a complete turn off. I am not impressed. He needs to grow up.
@jodygrulich8695
@jodygrulich8695 2 ай бұрын
Police waste psychics time
@tylerlee7851
@tylerlee7851 9 күн бұрын
If
@wildfireintexas
@wildfireintexas Жыл бұрын
The psychic was “unable to predict the unpleasant reality of living in New Jersey.” Epic.
@Susan-lf2hl
@Susan-lf2hl 10 ай бұрын
The Doc has a hard on for NJ!!
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 9 ай бұрын
Safe to say, The Doc doesn't believe in psychics. Neither do I especially if you can throw a surprise party for them.
@mick7even
@mick7even 7 ай бұрын
Also, this isn’t the first time he has cast shade on Jersey 🤣
@CameronRyan
@CameronRyan 7 ай бұрын
The Psychic was correct about the killer being a teenager.
@adotintheshark4848
@adotintheshark4848 7 ай бұрын
@@CameronRyan I visited a psychic once. I walked in the door and told her, "tell me my name"..she said "I don't know", so I left.
@AutoPress-wj1lf
@AutoPress-wj1lf 7 ай бұрын
I knew Alec and Kevin- I lived three houses down from his father’s house. We waited at the same bus stop together with other kids every morning. The Monday after the murder took place (before I knew he was the killer) I remember waiting for the school bus and saying something to him like, 'crazy shit that went down huh?' And he said, 'yeah' and then got on the bus. I often think, what if he broke into my home instead of Kevin’s and killed my family or me. The local police had called in the FBI after a few weeks of no leads on the case. I was interviewed by two FBI agents on my parent’s back porch about Alec. The year before this murder took place my parents asked me why I never invited Alec over (with him living just 3 houses away) and I told them he is strange and that, 'I could see him doing a columbine one day’. My mom told the FBI about that comment which is why they wanted to talk with me. It was just a feeling I got…. Kevin who was killed was the sweetest kid. He was super nice, helped me in school, and was highly highly intelligent. I wonder what he would have been when he grew up- something great. In the two months before the case was solved, the daughter who escaped went to live with her aunt and uncle. This wasn’t made public…The community wondered if the killer would try to kill Maggie next. The irony was, her aunt and uncle lived in our neighborhood and would go on runs. She would run by Alec’s house not knowing he was the killer. He could have seen her run by many times. This experience has made me deeply interested in the psychology of killers. What a tragedy. RIP Kevin, his Mom, and Dad, and god bless Maggie.
@greendragon4058
@greendragon4058 3 ай бұрын
It makes you hyper aware now of your surroundings something similar happened to me my best friend was killed never knew who did it for months and months found out that it was her husband and when I would go and see my daughter and I see you he would often invite me over to stay with him and I would say no because your wife is not there and I'm married. And if I had stayed with him I would be staying with her corpse that's just something you just cannot shake
@nthatomalope
@nthatomalope 17 күн бұрын
Wow! RIP & God bless Maggie indeed.
@manewland1
@manewland1 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande has dropped a new video that runs 14 minutes and 52 seconds; the Zoom class I am teaching starts in exactly 15 minutes! (just enough time; thank you, as always, Dr. Grande!)
@ingridm3844
@ingridm3844 Жыл бұрын
So relatable Lolol❤❤❤
@userk4175
@userk4175 Жыл бұрын
Fake teacher, fake school, lord help us.
@sayhello5377
@sayhello5377 Жыл бұрын
@@userk4175he’s an adjunct professor… google, my friend.
@zuglymonster
@zuglymonster Жыл бұрын
They didn't say they had a school. They said they had a zoom class. A zoom class can be an actual school class or a class for all kinds of different things. I'm signing up for a cookie decorating zoom class soon.
@manewland1
@manewland1 Жыл бұрын
@@userk4175 Why do you say that?
@mildredpierce4506
@mildredpierce4506 Жыл бұрын
I saw this case on a true crime show. Alec had indicated that he killed his friends family because they were too perfect. His family wasn’t perfect and he hated that Kevin‘s family was perfect. They had both parents in the home and the parents and the children love each other and enjoyed spending time together. They did things such as watch movies on television together and eat popcorn. Initially Maggie was a suspect. When she was retelling what she saw to the police, she did not act as if her whole family had just been murdered. Plus why didn’t the killer come and attack her? It was also realize that the killer took their time trying to wash up. To the police this meant that the killer knew that there was no one else in the house so they could take the time. Maggie was in shock. That is why her demeanor was matter-of-fact and calm. The reason why Alex did not attack her is because she was away at college and he Didn’t know that she had came back home. He did not know she was there. If he did, he would have killed her too.
@uggggggghhhhh
@uggggggghhhhh 7 ай бұрын
Wait, so they were being killed when she was in the house or after when she went to the neighbor
@TrentAdam
@TrentAdam 7 ай бұрын
​@@uggggggghhhhhBoth, she woke up during the attack and ran out to get help while the attack continued.
@animula6908
@animula6908 3 ай бұрын
I other words he was covetous and jeolous.
@MrStringybark
@MrStringybark Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how a person says they "feel nothing" yet has moments of anger and rage in response to other people and random events that he feels are annoying him.
@MF-ty2zn1
@MF-ty2zn1 Жыл бұрын
No empathy. The frontal lobe is underdeveloped. Ted Bundy was the same way.
@MrStringybark
@MrStringybark Жыл бұрын
@@MF-ty2zn1 I think by now everybody is aware that people like Alec Kreider have no empathy. That was not my point though. The context of my comment relates to something very different. To simplify, they say they "feel nothing" BUT they do feel strong anger. Anger is an emotion they are aware they have often felt in their life. Do you see the contradiction there?
@rockyevans1584
@rockyevans1584 Жыл бұрын
​@princessbittercup a lot of people never learn how to control their anger.
@MrStringybark
@MrStringybark Жыл бұрын
@@rockyevans1584 It's not about "controlling anger" but about whether or not that is an emotion to the psychopath.
@MrStringybark
@MrStringybark Жыл бұрын
@@ShellyBellyBeans I agree with you totally. Like you say, I suspect that those men believe that when they're being very angry it's a rational decision.😂
@jameslong4511
@jameslong4511 Жыл бұрын
Thinking about Maggie, she lost her whole immediate family. I'm glad Alec is no longer with us.
@icturner23
@icturner23 Жыл бұрын
But now he can’t answer questions, and maybe she’d like those answered. He might have been obliged to give them in order to get even the *possibility* of parole.
@MEL2theJ
@MEL2theJ Жыл бұрын
@icturner23 "The reason Alec did not share his motive, was that he did not know what his motive was." I agree with Dr. Grande that there were no answers coming from the killer "this case was about a young man that simply wanted to kill people."
@DressedForDrowning
@DressedForDrowning Жыл бұрын
@@icturner23 If people wanna know, they can ask Dr. Grande. 😃😃
@AshleyWarrick-s7m
@AshleyWarrick-s7m Жыл бұрын
When Jeffery Dahmer was asked why he thought he became a serial killer, he answered in a way that made it seem like he was searching for an understanding as to what motivated him to commit murder. When Richard Ramirez was asked why on earth he would have hurt those people, he simply smirked, covered his mouth and said,"I cannot answer that at this time". When the Green River killer was asked "why he did it" the detective said a look of bewilderment came over his face and even half shrugged. This seems to be a common theme for serial killers, not understanding their own motivations to commit murder.
@hildahilpert5018
@hildahilpert5018 Жыл бұрын
Peter Kurten the Monster of Dusseldorf said he wanted to be famous like some of the killers he saw in a waxwork exhibit.That was his motive.They know why they did it, just don't want to say.
@AshleyWarrick-s7m
@AshleyWarrick-s7m Жыл бұрын
@@hildahilpert5018 that may be true for that particular killer, but I think some don't understand their own psychology. Some serial killers have even stated they wanted desperately to stop but couldn't. Like an powerful compulsion or addiction
@Juke582
@Juke582 Жыл бұрын
And now Brian Kohberger too!
@helmutstransky3761
@helmutstransky3761 Жыл бұрын
Some people love sex, money, food, football or the sea. Or whatever. Some love to kill.
@SparkleNeely
@SparkleNeely Жыл бұрын
I think Dahmer wanted a relationship but he also thought he was smarter than everyone and didn’t want them to talk and annoy him. He was also hungry sometimes.
@shameronstar7220
@shameronstar7220 Жыл бұрын
This kid was a textbook psychopath. Scary how there’s people who are brought into the world like this. It’s like they don’t have a soul.
@mamacito1795
@mamacito1795 Жыл бұрын
It is scary because as far as I can see, there's no rehabilitation for some people and yet they are sometimes let back into society
@alexiswiftrock
@alexiswiftrock Жыл бұрын
Well said. I have no answer besides evil incarnate
@MrStringybark
@MrStringybark Жыл бұрын
@@alexiswiftrock Thankfully most people aren't as primitive as you are in their understanding of psychopathy.
@helmutstransky3761
@helmutstransky3761 Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a soul.
@skycloud4802
@skycloud4802 Жыл бұрын
​@@mamacito1795 people mistakenly think rehabilitation should be the forefront of imprisonment, but it's actually to keep the public safe. Not all people like you say can be rehabilitated unfortunately.
@milano13able
@milano13able Жыл бұрын
I would love to know what the heck happened to Dr. Grande in New Jersey.
@I_Love_Rainbows510
@I_Love_Rainbows510 Жыл бұрын
Maybe he got a bad psychic reading?
@dave.of.the.forrest
@dave.of.the.forrest Жыл бұрын
What happened in New Jersey, stays in New Jersey.
@I_Love_Rainbows510
@I_Love_Rainbows510 Жыл бұрын
@@dave.of.the.forrest Oh my gosh! We should request Dr. Grande to do a video about his previous experience(s) with New Jersey. Sort of like how people requested the Christmas decorations video!
@lindymerry38
@lindymerry38 9 ай бұрын
I'm Australian, so I don't know anything about New Jersey. What is its reputation like generally?
@I_Love_Rainbows510
@I_Love_Rainbows510 9 ай бұрын
@@lindymerry38 I live here in America, and I don't actually know! I think NJ gets teased a lot for smelling bad, due to nearby bodies of water. I'm not sure if it does actually smell bad, or if that's just a mean joke, or what! Otherwise, I think it would be a cool place to live! The movie "The Garden State" takes place there, and it would be a favorite of mine if it wasn't filled with constant f-bombing. (Geez, Zach Braff, why?!)
@Asylar343
@Asylar343 9 ай бұрын
Credit to the "love interest" for just calling the authorities when given the classic fake suicide threat. If course Alec had no idea his desperate attempt to keep the girl talking to him would lead to it becoming a very real option later on down the line.
@mowabb
@mowabb Жыл бұрын
Of all the thought out detailed plans and attempts to get away with murder that ultimately failed, this guy came extremely close to getting away with it. And usually such a violent type of murder isn’t the easiest to cover up….but he almost did it. That’s pretty scary.
@MrStringybark
@MrStringybark Жыл бұрын
His shoe size and prints would have given the police a reason to interview him which I'm sure with his fragile mental state would have provided a confession.
@mowabb
@mowabb Жыл бұрын
Nobody was suspecting him it seems so he would have plenty of time to get rid of the shoes, and of course shoe size alone is circumstantial.
@MrStringybark
@MrStringybark Жыл бұрын
@@mowabb I never said or implied that his shoe size was evidence. Read and try to understand what was the context of my comment?
@mowabb
@mowabb Жыл бұрын
Fair point
@wesleyorange8133
@wesleyorange8133 Жыл бұрын
He got away with it. He confessed because he couldn't live with it. Which suggests he does feel things, especially sadness and pain.
@aviation11000
@aviation11000 Жыл бұрын
For some reason the story of the dad counting 1 and him saying "2,3" stand out the most to me.
@Neilsowards
@Neilsowards Жыл бұрын
He had more control than the father. He was in control.
@Mandooze
@Mandooze Жыл бұрын
Honestly it makes me like him when i heard that part
@robbobsjobs8456
@robbobsjobs8456 Жыл бұрын
I use to have to pick out my discipline beating tool that would be used on me, the thought of saying that to my stepdad made me the grown man I am cower an shiver a bit. Disturbing
@aviation11000
@aviation11000 Жыл бұрын
Fearless dominance
@CrystalRicotta
@CrystalRicotta Жыл бұрын
🫥 creepy AF
@NY51663
@NY51663 5 ай бұрын
As a life long New Yorker, I absolutely love the New Jersey digs! All true.
@Adarkane325xi
@Adarkane325xi Жыл бұрын
This is such a sad story. I feel bad for the victims, the sister and Alec’s father.
@sunnycatc6491
@sunnycatc6491 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Grande for this heartwarming holiday tale😮. I"m checking daily for your Christmas decorations!
@dianamarie5663
@dianamarie5663 Жыл бұрын
Plus your holiday shirt.
@michaelperez9966
@michaelperez9966 Жыл бұрын
Alec did give a motive though. Alec stated he had a passion for killing, and it could have been as simple as that.
@Juke582
@Juke582 Жыл бұрын
There’s psychopathy behind that thought!
@8luvbug
@8luvbug 11 ай бұрын
Yes it's called "thrill kill"
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Жыл бұрын
Your son tries to murder his younger brother so you give him a hunting knife? WTF?
@edwardcat5247
@edwardcat5247 9 ай бұрын
it's the USA !! they show their kids how to kill animals and think it's good!!!!!!! No hope for them... weird as...
@kcbarbo78
@kcbarbo78 7 ай бұрын
People make inexplicable decisions.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 7 ай бұрын
@@kcbarbo78 amen to that.
@Relayzy1
@Relayzy1 6 ай бұрын
I mean who doesn't at some point? lol
@animula6908
@animula6908 3 ай бұрын
All kids with brothers have tried to murder them at multiple points, just to put this in context for you.
@wandachat3376
@wandachat3376 Жыл бұрын
The kid had problems controlling his anger, tried to strangle his younger brother and his father gave him a HUNTING KNIFE? I don't get it. And I don't understand why people are obsessed with killing animals for fun. I feel so sorry for the victims...
@KimberlyLetsGo
@KimberlyLetsGo Жыл бұрын
Even if you don't think you need it, you do need security systems in your car and home.
@derkeheath5172
@derkeheath5172 Жыл бұрын
I always appreciate when Dr. Grande summarily dismisses psychics and other nutjobs/con artists.
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
I feel your analysis is spot on Dr. Grande! 🧚‍♀ He had narcissistic rage and was devoid of a conscience. 🧚‍♀
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I feel there are all different levels of narcissism. the same way I feel there are levels of bipolar. I'm not a doctor but I've been around enough mentally ill people (mostly artist friends) to have noticed distinct differences in bipolar and schizophrenic people. I feel some have milder symptoms than others, what one might do maybe another wouldn't do. If you've ever been around a person with narcissistic rage it can be a living nightmare when they go off, and it's usually over nothing, but most narcissistic people probably wouldn't go so far as to kill. This is just my personal opinion as a non-professional. @@RepresentWV
@Juke582
@Juke582 Жыл бұрын
Yes a psychopath!
@Juke582
@Juke582 Жыл бұрын
@@dissidentfairy4264a psychopathic narcissist is this kid! They are out there! Many!
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
For sure! @@Juke582
@dissidentfairy4264
@dissidentfairy4264 Жыл бұрын
While I agree that the word narcissist is way over used, there is a difference between normal upset and irrational rage. Someone who truly has the illness is like a Jekyll and Hyde. They can go off at the drop of the hat and make life unbearable for anyone who is in close proximity. Maybe a certain word will trigger them, any excuse to go off and when they do, they are loud like a roaring lion. So loud they can be heard by all the neighbors and then some. They always have to have their way or they will explode and make life unbearable for those around them. While we are all narcissists to a degree, meaning we have to look in the mirror and get ourselves ready in the morning, a true narcissist will incessantly sound off about how great they are day in and day out. @@RepresentWV
@69adrummer
@69adrummer Жыл бұрын
I love your unabashed disdain for "psychics" lol
@marlaroberts2087
@marlaroberts2087 Жыл бұрын
Why in the heck would his dad give him a knife? This was a very scary kid!!!
@tanikokishimoto1604
@tanikokishimoto1604 Жыл бұрын
Don't know. But I presume that there was a kitchen in the house where he lived. Knives can always be found.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Жыл бұрын
Scary dad.
@hhp2932
@hhp2932 11 ай бұрын
There were knives already in his kitchen.
@edwardcat5247
@edwardcat5247 9 ай бұрын
it's the USA !! they show their kids how to kill animals and think it's good!!!!!!! No hope for them... weird as...
@nthatomalope
@nthatomalope 17 күн бұрын
After giving him his toys back following the 1...2,3 stare down. Dad no longer wore the pants in that house.
@nounae7409
@nounae7409 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your analysis Dr. Grande. What I cannot understand is why did Alec kill the only friend he had? He could have killed anyone else if anything a mean person to him. Could it be that he was jealous of his friend who after all had a solid home, a loving family, Kevin must have been a balanced and overall happy young man. He wanted to take all away from him because his life was just the opposite, I am also very curious to know if he was planning on killing the sister.
@ronald3836
@ronald3836 Жыл бұрын
Maybe just because he could. He knew the house and how to get in.
@champton911
@champton911 Жыл бұрын
Familiarity breeds contempt?
@madeleinecrown1596
@madeleinecrown1596 9 ай бұрын
Read the Talented Mr. Ripley. Interesting parallel in a way.
@eddue12345
@eddue12345 Жыл бұрын
The "specific aversion to chewing noises" mentioned here is likely an intense sensitivity to certain sounds and is one of many possible manifestations of a neurodivergent affliction called Misophonia. Misophonia originates from an increased neuro-sensitive nervous system temperament (from birth, hence it is a neurodivergence). And Misophonia can also be exacerbated or activated by complex or non-complex trauma that would have involved the particular sound(s) that stimulates the misophonic reaction in everyday life. Misophonia is a VERY psychologically painful, frightening and restricting neuro-sensitivity that greatly affects the lives and opportunities of those of us who must live with it, usually in very negative ways. It can hinder our ability to live in peace (in many ways, it can be like a constant torture). Misophonia is INDEPENDENT FROM and May OR May NOT co-occur with a personality disorder.
@dawntolife9448
@dawntolife9448 6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! I have this and was scrolling to see if anyone was fixating on this issue. Morbid curiosity I guess. I’d like to add, since it’s a theme in this case, that the rage is perhaps the most distressing part. No one knows what this is. I was under the impression misophonia wasn’t officially recognized. It wasn’t when I was a kid. As a teenager I honestly feel like I could’ve been this guy. It’s no excuse and I’m so thankful I’ve never hurt anyone. I hate violence, but you really can be made into a cornered animal just by taking public transit. You will want to do ANYTHING to get rid of the threat. It compounds with and creates its own traumas.
@Drainhair
@Drainhair Жыл бұрын
Love your content uncle grande
@raeraebadfingers
@raeraebadfingers Жыл бұрын
Your username made me both laugh and get the ewwies at the same time
@bunnymad5049
@bunnymad5049 Жыл бұрын
One does not expect to birth a psychopath. Feel for both families so much. How utterly sad and awful. Great analysis, Dr G.
@bunnymad5049
@bunnymad5049 Жыл бұрын
@@Seth547 Honey, you're mad at me for something you made up in your own head. lol. You come across as inebriated, to be frank. Once sober, have a read of James Fallon - one of the world's leading neuroscientists. Then you'll understand what I've said. Merry Christmas! 🎄
@JuMow_
@JuMow_ Жыл бұрын
Damn, Fallon recently died, didn't know -.- RIP
@bunnymad5049
@bunnymad5049 Жыл бұрын
@@JuMow_ oh, no! An incredible man. I'll google. It's sad enough we lost Oliver Sacks. Thank you for letting me know.
@hhp2932
@hhp2932 11 ай бұрын
You meant "does not".
@bunnymad5049
@bunnymad5049 11 ай бұрын
@@hhp2932 Oh, goodness! Yes! Thank you! Correcting now!
@francinejones2524
@francinejones2524 Жыл бұрын
Watching Dr Grande videos is my therapy while I’m home sick from work today🙏🤕🩵 xxx
@kelliearnold8498
@kelliearnold8498 10 ай бұрын
So sad!!! Thank you for all your hard work Dr.Grande!!!
@bthomson
@bthomson Жыл бұрын
Rage is a problem. Rage coupled with no empathy is a bigger problem. Seeing the happiness of others and feeling none yourself focuses the rage. Lack of empathy allows murder to seem possible. But murder does not solve the problem and prison only intensifies the emptiness.
@always_b_natural703
@always_b_natural703 Жыл бұрын
I do think there are 'bad seeds'. Something is wrong in the wiring, and can't be fixed.
@MEL2theJ
@MEL2theJ Жыл бұрын
​@@always_b_natural703Preach it! I totally agree with this comment
@Ariadne76-k3d
@Ariadne76-k3d Жыл бұрын
I'd love to know what they are so angry about. We're the ones who have to put up with their awful behaviour, yet we aren't enraged all the time.
@always_b_natural703
@always_b_natural703 Жыл бұрын
@@Ariadne76-k3d I think they're angry about everything
@bthomson
@bthomson Жыл бұрын
For an empathetic person it is almost impossible to understand what it is like to feel nothing! These killers watch as everyone around them has feelings of love, happiness, sadness, etc. And just imagine the jealousy maybe one of the only feelings they ever have except pure rage!
@steph7738
@steph7738 Жыл бұрын
The psychics couldn’t help the police? WhAt?!?!
@rullvox5912
@rullvox5912 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dr. Grande. Heather Mack is supposed to be sentenced today in federal court, but I haven't found any news about her sentence yet. Just FYI because you did an analysis of her case a couple of years ago.
@benjaminsnowvlogs
@benjaminsnowvlogs Жыл бұрын
"So this woman was a psychic, but was unable to predict the unpleasant reality of living in New Jersey." Lmao bruh I'm dead 😆 😆 😆
@clairewyndham1971
@clairewyndham1971 Жыл бұрын
I was dying. And Dr. Grande delivers these zingers dead pan.
@CentralPALocos
@CentralPALocos Жыл бұрын
This happened in my hometown, nice to hear from you about it from you Dr. Grande!
@Frostedminifirecracker
@Frostedminifirecracker Жыл бұрын
It seems that often when children are shuttled between two households in these week on/week off schedules, they lose so much and seem to feel they belong nowhere. Some so-called visitations are even more hectic. I’ve seen this detachment in two children I know and it’s very distressing. I wonder how common that is.
@mangafq8
@mangafq8 Жыл бұрын
I have thought this myself. To me it is almost a form of abuse if a child has to continually shuttle back and forth on certain days or weeks. Not a relaxing way to live. As an adult, I wouldn't want to be required to maintain such a schedule and yet so many children are subjected to this incohesive and divisive arrangement. Very sad 😢
@wesleyorange8133
@wesleyorange8133 Жыл бұрын
@@mangafq8 Kids are abused in so many ways nowadays it's absolutely insane. They're almost better off fending for themselves and learning survival skills than being raised in these types of families. I'm joking of course, but it sure seems like some kids just need out of these families.
@dameanvil
@dameanvil Жыл бұрын
00:27 🏡 Alec Kreider, troubled from an early age, faced parental divorce and split custody arrangements, living close to a friend's family home. 02:54 🔍 The Haynes family murder investigation revealed a brutal scene with no forced entry, multiple victims, and a mysterious killer. 06:50 ⚖ Alec Kreider pleaded guilty to the murders, received consecutive life sentences, and never disclosed his motive. 07:30 🧠 Insights from Alec's father showed recurring behavioral issues, mental health treatment attempts, and signs of anger and isolation. 09:19 🤔 Descriptors of Alec included intelligence, bitterness, anger, and a disconnect from reality, making him challenging to understand. 10:29 📝 Alec's writings hinted at a desire to kill, a distorted perception of existence, and a belief that his life began after committing the murders. 11:41 ⚖ Alec's sentencing, initially without parole as a juvenile, sparked community fear; his motive for the murders remained a baffling mystery. 12:36 🤯 Speculation suggested Alec's narcissistic, psychopathic traits, combined with depression, drove a desire to feel anything-even through drastic actions like murder.
@WackadoodleMalarkey
@WackadoodleMalarkey Жыл бұрын
🏅 💯 🗽
@christinafacts444
@christinafacts444 Жыл бұрын
not ChatGPT doing your homework. bruh.....
@CQ-369
@CQ-369 Жыл бұрын
OK. Now write it in your own words.
@sarahpiaggio2693
@sarahpiaggio2693 Жыл бұрын
According to this description, the daughter of the household said that the noises started in her brother's rooms, she went to the parents' room and was told to go and get help. But the investigators studying the forensics concluded that the attack started in the parents' room and ended up in the son's room. How could this be?
@Michelehoffman-q7c
@Michelehoffman-q7c 2 ай бұрын
Elephant in the room, I thought the same thing actually.
@aaronsterlind6334
@aaronsterlind6334 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Dr Grande, you deliver a difficult subject matter in a very respectful way, I know that seeing many of these cases can be difficult for someone like you as well.
@cleardrop4531
@cleardrop4531 Жыл бұрын
I have a temperamental kid but he certainly cares if his toys and distractions are taken and he certainly cares if people like him or he’s stuck in his room. Glad he isn’t struggling as hard as this kid did.
@holzkiewuf
@holzkiewuf Жыл бұрын
Watching Dr Grande has helped me immensely in the raising of my kids too! Which behaviors to be a bit more tuned to, encouragement to try to see my kids as other people would see them (not just through the distorted lens of their dad), etc. A huge lesson though has been “Overall, my teens could be a lot worse”😅
@lmiller1413
@lmiller1413 Жыл бұрын
Alec was challenging the father when it appeared that he didn't care. He may have a very cared, but he was likely trying to gain power and frustrate his father. He certainly was challenging. Challenging enough to make his father take away all toys, which does seem like a parent who is at their wits end or power hungry or both. It's would not be a recommended parenting strategy. Seems excessive.
@WackadoodleMalarkey
@WackadoodleMalarkey Жыл бұрын
Kinda reminds me of Animal Mother from Full Metal Jacket. Insufferable as a person but indispensable in combat.
@duvessa2003
@duvessa2003 Жыл бұрын
So I’m not the only one watching and listening and trying to figure out if my own kid is OK. He’s had all kinds of services. They all seem inadequate. He is now at an age where he refuses to cooperate with therapy, medication, pretty much anything pro-social.
@Meela234
@Meela234 Жыл бұрын
​@@lmiller1413Excessive would be taking away food. Toys are a treat, not a must-have.
@jimcronin2043
@jimcronin2043 Жыл бұрын
When Dr. Grande stated that Alec's behavior was "appropriate" following the murders it pointed out the erroneous assumption that many make by judging a person's potential guilt by their behavior. For example, I have read many jurors' accounts about how they have done this in cases in which the subjects turned out to be actually guilty and innocent. In my view, it is entirely impossible to project one's own anticipated behavior if in the same situation onto another person. There are many reasons. There are probably an infinite combination of personality and situational combinations. People should know better but continue to do it every day. Facts are all that matter.
@NeeNee_B.
@NeeNee_B. Жыл бұрын
Wait, so were the parents already stabbed when the daughter ran into the room and the mother told her to run? & If he killed the brother right there in the hall, where was he when she was running through the house and down the stairs, all the way outside?? He had to still be there if he came back to slit the mother's throat. I'm still confused on the sequence of events that night
@judymurray191
@judymurray191 Жыл бұрын
It confused me too. If he was familiar with the house he had to know where the sister’s room was.
@ronald3836
@ronald3836 Жыл бұрын
I googled a bit, and this indeed seems to be how it went. "Their college-age daughter Margaret "Maggie" Haines told police she was awakened by a noise about 2 a.m. and went into her parents' bedroom, where she said she found her father lying on the bed and her mother sitting nearby. The mother quietly told her to get help, according to police." The father was already dead, stabbed in the heart. The mother had been stabbed in the stomach. Alec later returned to the bedroom to slit the mother's throat, so he must still have been inside when Maggie managed to get out of the house. The brother put up a big fight, so that may have given Maggie enough time. Also, Alec apparently did not know that Maggie was home from college.
@ronald3836
@ronald3836 Жыл бұрын
@@judymurray191 Apparently Alec did not know Maggie was home from college.
@FR0STYF0X
@FR0STYF0X Жыл бұрын
Motive: Envy of people with normal emotions and social skills?
@georgeoh-well8116
@georgeoh-well8116 Жыл бұрын
The question for me is how does someone like this get created and can it be prevented?
@DusanPavlicek78
@DusanPavlicek78 11 ай бұрын
Yes, it's called contraception ;)
@St.JohnWort
@St.JohnWort 10 ай бұрын
@@DusanPavlicek78, That of course assumes you can predict how your child is going to develop and grow up, which is impossible. Contraception does not prevent serial killers anymore than someone murdering a baby because that baby could have been Hitler. It is all a statistical probability, of which, the probability of your child growing up to become a serial killer or murderer is less than 1%.
@DusanPavlicek78
@DusanPavlicek78 10 ай бұрын
@@St.JohnWort I was joking of course, meaning that the only reliable way to prevent serial killers from being born is to not have children at all, which obviously is not a solution at all because then we'd die out. So in other words, there's no reliable way to prevent it.
@Swansong321
@Swansong321 Жыл бұрын
He probably wanted to feel something..but it's like he was really empty with no capacity for any feeling....
@elizabethwarman9028
@elizabethwarman9028 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Grande, good afternoon from Southern California. Excellent analysis. As always I learn something new from your videos.
@Nylak-Otter
@Nylak-Otter Жыл бұрын
If the dogs lead you to a road and stop, they are following the track scent, not the air scent. It is the handler's job to reset them along the road to find the track that was interrupted by the road. The police and handler were wrong and assumed he had gotten into a car; the DOGS were not. This is just an example of police being extremely inexperienced at handling tracking K9s that weren't trained to track an air scent, or they had set the dogs too late and the air scent was gone.
@MEL2theJ
@MEL2theJ Жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis 💎 Thank you Dr. Grande
@yesterdayitrained
@yesterdayitrained 11 ай бұрын
*The reason that Alex did not share his motive was because he didn’t know what his motive was* … This is most important point made in this video (IMHO) and I wish the entire world could hear it (not just for this case, but for so many other cases). It’s something so many people don’t understand- that often murderers do not themselves know why they killed. When the victims’ families want to know why, I think it would be incredibly invaluable, if someone (police, etc.) told them: “The killer doesn’t know why he did it, so we can’t answer that question. You will never have that closure. I am so very sorry.”
@melissaharris3389
@melissaharris3389 3 ай бұрын
An extreme form of alexithymia
@megalopolis2015
@megalopolis2015 Жыл бұрын
Right on the money, as usual. Had Alec been born before 1975, he might have had an illustrious career in torture and murder, but luckily DNA and forensics, not to mention his tendencies for TMI, helped stop him shortly after starting. Since he began with his friend and family, he wouldn't have stopped on his own, much like the Chessboard Killer.
@kamithompson2770
@kamithompson2770 Жыл бұрын
I remember first hearing about Alec's story on Evil Lives Here.
@Juke582
@Juke582 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!
@Orpilorp
@Orpilorp 8 ай бұрын
Hello! I have been studying nutrition and how it affects our health, as I have Crohn's disease. I have read how vit. D therapy has been used to treat mental illnesses, particularly schizophrenia. If a mother does not get enough vit D while pregnant her baby can develop the mental illness. Some people don't really examine their diets, assuming most foods are okay. The standard American diet and the food processing techniques used can really challenge our ability to absorb nutrients.
@vbrown6445
@vbrown6445 Жыл бұрын
This kids was a psychopath, well on his way to becoming a serial killer. Thank goodness the first girl escaped her home before he could get her. And thank goodness the second girl called the cops while he was on the phone with her. What I can't understand is why a father, who knows his son has "dark thoughts" and tried to strangle his little brother, would gift him a hunting knife. I guess it's better than some of these parents who gift their disturbed child a gun, but he still somehow had access to a gun when he made the threats to the girl over the phone.
@nhmooytis7058
@nhmooytis7058 Жыл бұрын
Read People of the Lie by Scott Peck about the nature of evil.
@johng4093
@johng4093 7 ай бұрын
Every kitchen has knives, it's an irrelevant issue here.
@jerilync.herrick3585
@jerilync.herrick3585 Жыл бұрын
This happened in my home town and I remember it vividly. There was a lot of fear until he was caught because the crime seemed so random and vicious. His father wrote a book about his experience with this entire event
@ronald3836
@ronald3836 Жыл бұрын
Old news articles about the event indeed mention that people were busy installing security systems and booby-trapping their bedrooms in the period between the murders and the arrest.
@mrs.reluctant4095
@mrs.reluctant4095 Жыл бұрын
Before I had the opportunity to watch videos of doctor's excellent channel I always thought my own misdemeanors were a bit special. Now I know how boring a person I am. Thank you very much, doc! 😂
@daveatkins3568
@daveatkins3568 Жыл бұрын
I know exactly how you feel hon 😎✌🏻
@bthomson
@bthomson Жыл бұрын
Looking for Rejane?
@gilliandawson6567
@gilliandawson6567 Жыл бұрын
What he did was terrible. Yet, it seems like some people are born "broken"
@Sleepparalysisdemon2
@Sleepparalysisdemon2 Жыл бұрын
People are not " broken." There is anti social personality traits, sociopathic traits, but it's not broken. He would not recognize that he was missing " happiness ", and would not believe he is deficient in anything .
@staceystrukel1917
@staceystrukel1917 Жыл бұрын
How do you come to that conclusion when very little is known about the psychology of the household. Nobody knows if he was emotionally, mentally, physically, spiritually, or sexually abused.
@DavianSinner
@DavianSinner Жыл бұрын
Definitely broken.
@Juke582
@Juke582 Жыл бұрын
@@Sleepparalysisdemon2 Broken means mentally deficient! Duh 🙄
@pennybourban3712
@pennybourban3712 Жыл бұрын
Broken may not be the best term but some people are not wired right. Missing empathy and even looking into the future.
@danielwieten8617
@danielwieten8617 Жыл бұрын
Ohhh I remember this from an episode of Evil Lives Here, my favorite crime show of all time. Truly disturbing.
@reversalmushroom
@reversalmushroom 7 ай бұрын
In my experience, when people arbitrarily do shitty things they refuse to explain, it's because of something extremely petty they know is ridiculous and can't be defended, and they would feel embarrassed to actually say it.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 Жыл бұрын
All the makings of a serial murderer. Evidently born that way, but only got away with 3. I wonder if his family history going back a few generations shows anything?
@nicofelie
@nicofelie 5 ай бұрын
Actually a very good question. Its incredible that though even siblings can be wildly different from each other, that still something a great grandparent did a century back can still have an affect on your life currently. I think a lot more research needs to be done on generational “trauma”
@yogaqueen1527
@yogaqueen1527 Жыл бұрын
His father noticed the signs. He was unwell
@CowSaysMooMoo
@CowSaysMooMoo Жыл бұрын
.....yet gave him a knife
@tanikokishimoto1604
@tanikokishimoto1604 Жыл бұрын
​@@CowSaysMooMooAnd? There are knives in every kitchen.
@CowSaysMooMoo
@CowSaysMooMoo Жыл бұрын
@@tanikokishimoto1604 very true. So no need to ENCOURAGE his son by giving him one to CARRY AROUND AND HAVE EVEN HANDIER when the demons struck him.
@barbaralovenvirth8726
@barbaralovenvirth8726 Жыл бұрын
He was a phychopath. That sums it up.
@Chely-rp4dz
@Chely-rp4dz Жыл бұрын
Thanks you for posting almost everyday, I watch you every day.
@OhtheSuffering
@OhtheSuffering Жыл бұрын
Interesting theory, Doc. Early in the video I was thinking the motive might have been something like jealousy for Kevin's great family or revenge against Kevin's sister for rejecting him. But I guess it was deeper than that.
@SwimminWitDaFishies
@SwimminWitDaFishies Жыл бұрын
Dr Grande is always slamming NJ ... what did NJ ever do to him? Did he once get an undeserved parking ticket or speeding ticket while in NJ? Did he not have exact change for a toll in NJ that triggered a PTSD episode? Did he have a bad relationship with someone who was from NJ? Did he get abandoned at a mall in NJ? Was someone from NJ responsible for a bad grade he received while he was attending school? Was he rejected for potential employment in NJ? So many questions ... now it's your turn to provide the definitive answer, Dr Grande! What say you?
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 Жыл бұрын
What a terrible list of qualities he had. Great points again on another stranger than fiction story. Thanks Dr G😊💞💞
@marjoriewilkinson7814
@marjoriewilkinson7814 Жыл бұрын
Love yr videos! And yr voice! It's soothing to listen too!😊❤
@cosmos5623
@cosmos5623 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant analysis. Never thought of it.
@richardhart9204
@richardhart9204 Жыл бұрын
" ... 2, 3." LOL! He may be a psycho murderer, but you've got to admire that kind of conviction.
@Zeepjeliefs
@Zeepjeliefs 7 ай бұрын
This case reminds me of the movie "we need to talk about Kevin"
@wilsixone
@wilsixone Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Grande straightforward & a good one.
@carlyrennae3963
@carlyrennae3963 Жыл бұрын
Love the shirt Dr G - you rock the autumnal colours 🍁 also and again...thank you !
@dbentleyto95
@dbentleyto95 Жыл бұрын
It seems to me therapy and mental care is life long with troubled children. They can be better, but it is never one and done.
@charlesgerety1403
@charlesgerety1403 Жыл бұрын
We should make a complilation video of all the New Jersey roast insults throughout the years on the show. Let's call it ..New Jersey is terrible, mostly for the hellish part.
@richardneedham13
@richardneedham13 5 ай бұрын
I can never understand why "just wanted to kill people" is so hard to except as a motive when in so many mass/serial killing cases this is the only motive...
@cherylcalogero3330
@cherylcalogero3330 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dr G! 😊🎄
@frisk151
@frisk151 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Grande... Could you please analyse (the meaning) and share your methodology behind how you move around your cacti? ;)
@jackedkerouac4414
@jackedkerouac4414 Жыл бұрын
That psychic New Jersey quip decimated me 🤣
@gregorygarcia7807
@gregorygarcia7807 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Dr. Grande! I have been hyper-critical about overt gun-love in the USA. @ 4:57 We'll see what happens! So far, so good!
@richardneedham13
@richardneedham13 6 ай бұрын
I never heard this case before.
@SisyphusQuit
@SisyphusQuit Жыл бұрын
Please do an examination of the Grinch who attempted to steal Christmas
@SisyphusQuit
@SisyphusQuit Жыл бұрын
My mistake. I see it's been done. I should've known
@lindasherman5099
@lindasherman5099 Жыл бұрын
I love the psychic comments. Reflects my opinion of them. 🤣👍
@lilcherry444
@lilcherry444 Жыл бұрын
this happened in my hometown. i remember hearing about it and honestly could’ve believe that something like this could happen there. i was a lot younger and naïve then :(
@leeretaschen231
@leeretaschen231 Жыл бұрын
You should analyze the case of Dr. Todd Grande.
@BlackCat-eb7ci
@BlackCat-eb7ci 10 ай бұрын
What's the clinical reason that causing harm/pain is so appealing to psychopaths? Is it an outward expression of inner rage?
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh Жыл бұрын
Always love the New Jersey jokes.
@sofiar3176
@sofiar3176 Жыл бұрын
I think there’s a big element of “control” here. The story of him as a kid counting 2,3 to his dad shows his dominance and desire for total control. His ability to pull off the scheme required alot of patience and control however when he realized it didn’t lift the feeling of “emptiness” as described that’s when he quits. Thus he clearly has zero regard for anyone other then himself
@Vamatt99218
@Vamatt99218 Жыл бұрын
I love your mystery true crime vids, theres nothing like a good mystery
@illeagle9560
@illeagle9560 Жыл бұрын
Huh this happened in the city next to mine, never heard of it though. Thank you for spreading some knowledge Sir Dr. Grande
@nthatomalope
@nthatomalope 17 күн бұрын
That 1... 2,3 story is hectic! Especially with the fact that his dad gave his toys back! 😮
@tracyking5945
@tracyking5945 Жыл бұрын
I know the consequences of listening to your uploads Dr. Grande. I may just learn something and become more aware of my surroundings. The chilling message here is, not even a parent can take their child at face value. Alec’s parents had good reason to suspect something was very wrong with him.
@bradsanders6954
@bradsanders6954 Жыл бұрын
Parents can have a hard time seeing what is very seriously wrong with their children, they dont want to believe what they see. I would guess Alec's parents saw early on that Alec was different.
@tracyking5945
@tracyking5945 Жыл бұрын
@@bradsanders6954 Yes, and unfortunately, even when you know something is wrong, you may be powerless to do anything about it.
@helmutstransky3761
@helmutstransky3761 Жыл бұрын
@@tracyking5945 or careless.
@nimsa2000
@nimsa2000 Жыл бұрын
Hello 👋 good Dr. Grande 😊🎉❤
@nimsa2000
@nimsa2000 Жыл бұрын
OMG 😲 😱 this is so sad and scary 😨...😢I wonder how Maggie is doing?😮😢
@bananabuttons6637
@bananabuttons6637 Жыл бұрын
I just dont understand how anyone could be that angry. If I feel angry about anything I generally just tell my husband about it, drink some wine then get the hell over it. I also cuddle my dog.
@MelindaMc
@MelindaMc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the laugh! You are sane!
@lindsayb7811
@lindsayb7811 Жыл бұрын
Mama told her to run. That’s heartbreaking.
@Jamesssssssssssssss
@Jamesssssssssssssss Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for Maggie, I don't know how I would be able to continue living. My immediate family is everything to me.
@shameronstar7220
@shameronstar7220 Жыл бұрын
Why does Dr. Grande hate New Jersey? Is it possible he’s from New Jersey and is trying to run from his Jersey roots?
@stephaniesmart
@stephaniesmart Жыл бұрын
Always impressed at Dr. Grande for consistently staying at the top his grind & keeping subscribers informed with his straight forward yet witty approach 😂😂!
@itchysheets1222
@itchysheets1222 Жыл бұрын
Dr Grinde
@hmmmmm64
@hmmmmm64 Жыл бұрын
It's all in the eyes. His eyes say it all.
@ilovebirds3157
@ilovebirds3157 Жыл бұрын
He looks like he eats spring rolls for Christmas
@johng4093
@johng4093 7 ай бұрын
Agree, very strange eyes! 😮
@Ariadne76-k3d
@Ariadne76-k3d Жыл бұрын
Sometimes I think they refuse to reveal the motive because it's just incredibly stupid.
@ronald3836
@ronald3836 Жыл бұрын
In a case like this, the motive indeed can only have been incredibly stupid. So ultimately it probably does not really matter that he did not tell. Suppose Kevin had done something bad to Alec like steal his girlfriend, it would in no way have explained the reaction. In all likelihood the only reason he picked Kevin and his family was that he knew the house.
@blablatructruc
@blablatructruc Жыл бұрын
Hating the U.S is not an indication of madness, but realistic fear.
@ronaldbell3788
@ronaldbell3788 Жыл бұрын
Like so many in the world, this young man apparently lacked a conscience.
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