Tekken backdash cancel tutorial

[@iZJaacK]

Even 6 years after upload you are still helping. ty for sharing knowledge.

[@Truthallday]

I swear this vid doesn’t get old. Whenever I plato in tekken 7 these old vids remind me to keep grinding.

[@Coolkid6859]

This is amazing! I like how you explained the thing about the microswitches in sticks as well. I didn't know that so that's always neat! :)

[@dseus]

By far this is the best tutorial on kbdc. Thanks.

[@Dom_Fl]

@chew4291 Mad Catz are from the US, yes, but they use Japanese parts on the TE sticks I think (stick and buttons are Sanwa I think? not 100 % sure though) so this method should work on a TE stick just as well.

[@susanoosins]

Its already 2019 and 7 or 6 years ago this video taught me how to backdash, thanks man!

[@Dom_Fl]

You're very welcome mate, glad it helped and you're still going strong at Tekken!

[@FolkloreYT]

Thanks to Aris for leading me to your video and big thanks to you for returning my hope back to me. Cleared a lot of questions about stick inputs.

[@relentlessjt1211]

awesome, no 1 ever went into detail about not to release b before u hit db,THANK YOU

[@Dom_Fl]

@bludika no problem. Both methods work as said. You can slide the stick down to d/b from the b or do b~n~d/b. Personally I do b~n~d/b on 1p side and d,slide to d/b on 2p side because I find an individual d/b input on 2p more often results in a SWY by accident. That’s strange, did you try a different hand hold/angle when doing the d/b? As long as your angle when releasing it is over 45 degrees the d microswitch should be release slightly erlier than the b microswitch, resulting in a d/b,b...

[@Dom_Fl]

@bludika P2 is indeed harder and takes more time to practice. But if you dedicate enough time to it you'll be able to get it down, don't worry, just keep trying and remember to start slowly until the hand motion becomes muscle memory. What doesn't register exactly? The d/b~b when releasing the d/b? I suppose that's the problem because that's the hardest part to it at first. Just put command history on and try to release the stick correctly (hand angle over 45 degrees) so that you get a d/b~b.

[@Dom_Fl]

@llKBBll I hear wavedash is slightly easier on the Fanta with its stiffer rubber instead of the gate, but it's a little hard to get use to and to find directionals at first. It's just preference though, many top Japan players have perfect execution and wavedashes on their J-sticks too.

[@Dom_Fl]

@bludika That's true, but it's just a matter of practice even on p2 side. For improving I can only recommend pactice it's the only thing you can do, as silly as that may sound. Also, don't be afraid to ask your opponents if you can always play on p2 side because you want to improve your p2 movement, that helps a lot if done for a longer time.

[@halcyon321]

Thank you SO much! This is the first video where I actually understand it and can KBDC now, My input was all wrong from other guides

[@Dom_Fl]

Halcyon32 you're welcome man, glad the video is still helpful after so many years.

[@bludika]

@BlackPriest1984 yea, its just feels different on the p2 side since you gotta like slide it down with your palm compared to just doing back, d/b, back, d/b on p1 side which is really easy for me to do and i can do it well, but for some reason, I can't be as precise on the d/b on the p2 side when I'm sliding it down from back, the feel is different.

[@nunu1871]

hii ^^ thanks for the tutorial wanna ask you something about the stick you know there are another type of the analoge i think called Triangle stick , do you think that is better than sqare ?

[@Dom_Fl]

@chaoarecool On a square gate. I'm not quite sure how this technique works on octagonal gates. You might very well need to input two B inputs as in a b,b, d/b~b,b, d/b~b,b, d/b~b,b, on octagonal gates for the BDC to work. The best advise I can give you is prolly to put command history on and try different inputs/techniques and check which one works, then practice it.

[@recondystopic1584]

I didn't know there was so much in Tekken, from frame data to backdash cancelling. Holy shit!

[@jtyssens]

Wow you're the man! I was able to get the backdash down, but dang my wrist hurts lol

[@Dom_Fl]

jtyssens awesome, glad you got it down man.

[@JWTH27]

I'm not to sure, a lot of people said a korean fightstick is the way to go, I just wanted to know what "type" of Korean Fightstick would be good to get.

[@Rightpath77]

Its all preference. What stick are you interested in getting?

[@Dom_Fl]

@bludika Hey man. Try turning command history on and try a few different hand/finger positions when doing the d/b. Personally I do an individual d/b on 1p side and slide down from b on 2p side to avoid sway inputs, but both methods work, it's just preference. The neutral after the d/b is important though.

[@chaoarecool]

What gate do you play on. I'm having trouble telling if i'm doing it right on my octagonal. for the most part i do B~B~D/B really fast after the first BDC dose that work or do i have to Do B~B~D/B then do B~N~D/B ect

[@Dom_Fl]

@mobstermobeen Glad it helped. Thanks to everybody for the nice words! =)

[@bludika]

@BlackPriest1984 thanks for your reply, what i meant was, do i do B,B, N, D/B, N, B, N, D/B, N, B... or do i do B, B, then slide from the B to D/B, N, B, slide from D/B again and so on? For some reason, my D/B doesn't seem to buffer the B so when I go from D/B, N, B, i dont backdash, instead I just get stuck, this is one thing I still can't get it down well on my stick

[@bludika]

i need some tips, When i try back dash canceling on my stick(sanwa jlf, octagonal gate), I do B, B, then slide to D/B. then go to neutral, then do B but for some reason, i do not backdash, as if the D/B before the B did not buffer. Also, am i supposed to input D/B from B individually, or do I slide from the 2nd B input to D/B? any help with this would be appreciated, thanks!

[@leibaek]

Can you plz tell me the notation of Lei Wulong's Backdash? i mean Lei specific backdash. You know its importance in Lei Wulong's game. Lei is my primary character but i still don't know how to do it.

[@ThaBlackFlash]

question, does the the d/b have to be frame perfect? Cuz on a sanwa, my d/b sometimes registers as "d, d/b".

[@tfhorth]

did you figure out a good way around this? I'm having the same problem, mostly on 2p side. Releasing the d/b doesn't always automatically give me a back input as well, which means my next b won't register as the second part of a dash. I'm having to push the stick up a little bit before releasing to neutral to ensure it registers a b input. Seems ok so far but a bit slower. I probably just need more practice.

[@ThisGuyTooGood]

i still dont get p2 side with command history it say im doing b,db b,db b,db instead of b,db,b b,db,b b,db,b. any advise?

[@Wtfiswrongwithyoucuh]

I need to keep watching this so I don't forget

[@footballismyhobby]

hello, i want to ask. is back dash cancel really helpful in defending? is this the move that make the user almost untouchable (no matter you hit low mid or high it still leave no damage)? btw i'm a steve user.

[@bludika]

bdc on p2 side is just a lot more difficult to feel it, i realized when you try to bdc on p2, you gotta be more sensitive, on p1 side, i can do it so much faster and easier, how can i improve the speed on p2 side cuz im a lot slower on the p2 side with backdashing

[@JWTH27]

Can someone tell me what the preferred fightstick for this game is, im gonna probably buy one and i would like to know.

[@bludika]

@BlackPriest1984 yea, on p2 side, when i go B, B, then slide to DB, then I release to N, then quickly go B, it sometimes doesn't backdash as if the B in the DB did not register, for some reason the precision is much more strict on the P2 side cuz i can tell there is a small spot where I slide down to for DB(im using octagonal gate) but i can't do it 100%, also is bdc easier with a stiffer or stock sanwa jlf looseness? i stiffened my stick because the stock jlf felt too loose

[@bludika]

@BlackPriest1984 im getting the hang of doing it on P1 side, because the execution is easier but I'm having a hard time on P2 side, because it's really straining on the hand to try to input Back, Downback repeatedly. When I slide from B to DB, then go N, then do B, slide to DB, it doesn't register. Any help on this? for some reason it only works when i do individual inputs of B and DB, but doesn't work well if I do B slide to DB, N, then B~DB... it doesn't work. a lil help would be appreciated

[@Zeronum2]

For pad do I slide b to d/b or do I just go b~neutral~d/b?

[@toonjanssen2071]

how long did it take you to be able to backdashcancel in matches without trouble?

[@StormHowl]

I can't seem to get that micro switch trick to work :/ I'm playing on the Hori RAP4 and even though I release the down back to neutral I never get that added back input, I have to twist the stick in a weird way when I release it to get it. Maybe its the stock stick that came with the RAP4? Do you recommend any specific kinds of joysticks?

[@Dom_Fl]

ChaosxPaladin yeah you have to learn to do the movement so that the b input registers. The hrap4 should be fine, I started on the standard hrap3 and it worked just fine. Hmm it's preference, Korean Myoungshin Fanta sticks are awesome because they have a round gate instead of an octagonal one thus making inputs more fluid imho, bit in the end it all comes down to your technique, and I currently also use a hrap4. Don't give up man, practice and you'll get it down soon you'll see.

[@cyborggenos5142]

lol you're right about twisting the stick in a weird way. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. spending alot of time in the tekken 7 practice mode. I want to learn this trick

[@indonsial9904]

yeah i`m frustrated too not getting the buffered back after releasing from d/b to neutral.i think as long as i can`t get the buffered back i won`t be able to do it :(

[@cyborggenos5142]

it took me about 3 hours in total on practice mode. just kept trying, never gave up. everyday i'd spend a little time trying to backdash cancel before I play any matches and now i can do it like about 4-5 times in a row. Just gotta get it into muscle memory, and then work on speed. atm I think i can do 4 BDCs about 1.5X faster than the max speed I can do ordinary BDs. The very fist time i did 3 consecutive BDCs it was much slower than just BD and it seemed pointless, but just trust the genius behind this technique. once you get that trick of the buffered back input in muscle memory, everything changes. almost feel like its a disadvantage to play on pad.... keep in mind I've never used an arcade stick before

[@StormHowl]

I'm able to do it on player 1 side now, but player 2 side is a lot harder. I just use the cheat method for now on that side until I can get it proper. This game is tough, but that's why I love it.

[@ionrosepodiotan2409]

can u make a tutorial for wave dash

[@Dom_Fl]

@FoxSt3v3 Thanks mate. You're in this vid too btw, noticed? =) I took the deathfist footage from our match at Damagermany where you owned me, lol.

[@barrettcid6847]

Hey BlackPriest1984, I have been working on my KBR with your technique and sometimes when I go back and then drag to down back and release to neutral I am not getting the other back input. Any ideas on what I may be doing wrong?

[@Archived0]

How do you release the stick "correctly"? I don't get the additional "back" on release.

[@Dom_Fl]

Twitchy what do you get if you check the command history? Basically you want to release it so that the down microswitch releases earlier than the back microswitch (both combined create the d/b). Basically you don't want to release it at a higher than 45 degree angle. Experiment a little with different hand and finger mivement until you get the right commands.

[@Dom_Fl]

@nunu1871 Hi. I don't get what you mean with "Triangle" stick and "sqare", sorry. Got links with picures?

[@xVandis]

New to fighting games and tekken tag 2 is the first one i bought its telling me i should buy a arcade stick for this cause the controller is pretty tough i can imagine the stick gonna take awhile to get use to.

[@Dom_Fl]

I prefer stick, but there's great players, mostly in the US and Europe, that play on pad too, so I'd say unless you play on a godlike level like the pros in Asia you can do great with either. Definitely takes a bit to get used to the stick though so if you think fighting games are your thing and you'll play them for years you might as well get one early. Good matches and have fun mate.

[@jessewright7880]

it is easier to backdash cancel with sanwa jlf joystick? i just bought qanba q1 and i find it difficult to backdash with a stock joystick. any suggestions on how to do this easier? 

[@MitsuSC]

jesse wright Practice practice practice. I also thought it was hard or I was doing something wrong but understanding how it's done the right way is essential in learning it

[@StormyOne1]

Does it work the same way on TTT2?

[@Raufjani1]

Love the way you explained,Thanks a lot for being there,

[@HumodHadi]

These are the secrets of being professional

[@TGregers]

I find this very hard on 2p side :/ Just cant do it.. But this guy uses a different input than the original korean backdash, works just as well though

[@HumodHadi]

Thank you for sharing this information :)

[@YYFFZZ]

***** بالتوفيق

[@ManuGaditano84]

Damm I dind't know it was hard to learn this stuff, I just started using a custom arcade stick and it will take weeks for I completely get it under control. I do the backdash on a ps3 controller at this moment and I can tell you it is funny how I make this techniek works using a ps3 joystick. Only need to be fast and secure, but I recommended to buy arcade fight stick too cuz Its much better....

[@dultimatesayjin]

Awesome vid dude, really informative stuff

[@cptmetadata]

Very nice stick, and useful video! THX!

[@Soulfide]

You have good technique please make another video

[@Shenmuetuga]

03:00 For some sweet backdash cancels.

[@stardust_DUO]

GET TO THE CHOPPPERRRR TEKKEN TAG 2 HAS LANDED

[@camillobian]

compliment x il filmato, e' bello sapere come si deve muovere con ogni personaggio :)

[@saiferoth]

haha i want to do "NASTEE TINGS". like the video, love the accent. hopefully i can get this down

[@LiangHuBBB]

good stuff

[@mobstermobeen]

Nice vid. bro , it helped me a lot!

[@TJCombo2]

great tutorial dude^^

[@Faidman]

Great Paul Player

[@medium95]

Thank you very much for posting a good video!!

[@relentlessjt1211]

YOU ARE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[@FoxSt3v3]

@BlackPriest1984 - lol I fucking noticed that - but wasn't 100% sure if it was us or not. I didn't own you - NOBODY owns BP!

[@isawayto]

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

[@lokiuk]

awesome

[@FoxSt3v3]

good shit BP

[@isawayto]

Dude you fucking rock

[@DoubleBeast]

@yamoonie Right when I heard that I scrolled down to make a comment, only to see you already got it for me. xD

[@Vihyp]

omg, turn on english subtitles for this video hahahaha

[@KyokoUltimate]

Baek: WHY U KEEP SAY MY NAME!!! >.

[@tekkennewspl3280]

Hi! GREAT Video! THX for such amazing work - we have added it to our website, you can check it here: tekkennews.pl/backdash-cancel-poradnik/ Greetings from Poland!!! :-)

[@Dom_Fl]

+TekkenNews PL I'm glad if people still find it helpful after so many years. Greeting from Italy!

[@DeJai237]

Wow looks like you have a lot of catching up to do. There are other cancels much better than this one.

[@Keeacer]

Rubbish movement scheme, movement in real life is not this complicated, this game would be far more enjoyable with a simpler scheme