Televes DATBOSS LR Mix Outdoor Antenna Review 149883

[@AntennaMan]

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[@CardboardGuy]

First.. Happy Wednesday! Antenna Man, did you hear about the shutdown of Orby TV? Robbie Strike, the Happy Satellite Nerd told me about it in a live stream yesterday.

[@AntennaMan]

@@CardboardGuy Yes, I'm investigating now! Although it's likely, there's no confirmation they shut down. I need to verify facts before we all jump to conclusions.

[@victoryfirst2878]

Can you tell me if this would be the best antenna to buy for super long range station reception ??? Thanks

[@Airbear50]

I did install that antenna at my mother's home in Arecibo, Puerto Rico. The area is a valley surrounded by mountains and trees. The DAT BOSS had no problems picking up the local stations with Zero Pixelation. None of the channel master and antennas direct deep fringe antennas that I did try worked as well as this one. I did add Dielectric Grease to the connectors to avoid moisture generated by tropical weather. Any Televes product... just works perfect. Invest and forget.

[@rjtetzloff1850]

ThankYouTyler for recommending this antenna for me. Living in a rural area about 60 - 70 miles away from the nearest tv stations, I was only able to slightly pick up 2 channels with the “junk” antenna. With this antenna, I am able to pick up all the channels in my area, still 60 - 70 miles away, and haven’t had any issues for over a month so far. It is worth the money for Tyler’s recommendation, it saved me hundreds of dollars from trial and error. Thank You so much Tyler

[@asm42]

I'm happy to hear that, I picked up the signal amp and am less than impressed. I lose all reception with it.

[@genesky61]

2 different types of splitters. 1. Power passing. 2.Non Power Passing If a splitter is in the coax system , between amplifier power supply and amplifier that is close to antenna. Then use a splitter that will pass the power from point A to point B. Also I do not recommend use USB to power device. Use the power that is a transformer that is plugged in to the electric wall outlet. The name of the game is a clear path from point A to point B.

[@jamespatton3720]

Tyler recommend the same antenna to me and let me tell you it’s night and day compared to my old antenna. I never knew that their were so many channels over the air.

[@chrismoore2461]

Can I mount this antenna in my attic of a 2 story home? I am located near you, Mertztown PA

[@75aces97]

​@chrismoore2461 you should be able. I have this one I my attic and the reception has been great. A few variables can affect results. If you find the direction of the broadcast source from your position, aiming the boom at the source as best you can makes a big difference. I also found that some TV models have better onboard tuners than others, so something to consider.

[@funinazsun123]

Thanks for the recommendation on this antenna, I got the Televes DATBOSS Mix UHF VHF Amplified Outdoor HDTV, Antenna, and I now get NBC, here in Indy the tower is over 60 miles away, all my stations are strong and clear now, thanks again, keep up the good work

[@chasing_dragons]

Thank you so much Tyler. Honest to God there is something about this channel and the product descriptions that help me to relax. I live in miserable Los Angeles and the variety of tensions in this city are unbearable. Anything that helps to heal is a blessing.

[@ClassicGuy57]

Hey Tyler, love the prison wall look. Also, glad to see the Rabbit Ears back on the TV again!

[@TylerOrtel]

Man I live 50 miles from the nearest transmitter and have no hope of receiving any signals, but I love your videos and find them quite relaxing.

[@eminence_front6043]

Do you live in an area surrounded by hills or mountains ?

[@robertogalvez3865]

Distance is NOT the main problem. The issue are the obstacles between you (Reciever Rx) and the Transmitter (Tx). I can live 100 miles from a transmitter with good power, have a good line of sight and get a good signal. It is all about LOS!

[@AMStationEngineer]

When you brought up WCAU's being broadcast on Channel 28, it reminded me that I was one of the contractors at WPVI DT-6, working on a coaxial cable feed problem (at WPVI's 'roundhouse' ), when a contractor working on WCAU's new DTV antenna, at the Domino Lane antenna farm lost his life when he fell from a point of about ¾ of the tower's height. That day, I learned that Philly broadcasters banded together to help each other during a crisis, in a way similar to what must have taken place during the time of Jim O'Brien's passing. A lot can be said about Philly being a bad place, however, with respect to the electronic media, Philly's broadcasters definitely come together in times of crisis. After reminding myself of the events that day, it made me realize that great sacrifices were made in that case, for an over the air signal, and it needs to be appreciated.

[@Noone9227]

Philly IS a bad place. I would consider it the worst place I’ve lived, and I’ve lived in a lot of places. Really mean and aggressive people often for no apparent reason. I stayed two years before going back to DC. DC, usually don’t bother you if you’re not bothering them. New York, if they’re nasty you usually asked for it by doing something stupid.

[@nicolaetuns]

Exactly the model I have in Denmark. Outstanding reception, on days with good atmospheric conditions I can pick up TV stations from Sweden, 80 to 90 miles away. Highly recommended!!

[@AntennaMan]

It's a really good antenna.

[@ledevingreen7920]

Its really well put together and sturdy!! It picked u about 15 extra channels!!! Great buy!!!

[@fastkickin]

I put it up against a CM 4228 since it seems to even receive channels 170 degrees from the front. When I use a preamp on it get high band VHF stations any direction about 20 miles away but UHF had to be pointed toward them and or nearly 170 degrees off.

[@michaelboyer2580]

Thank you for the review Tyler. I live on the southside of Jacksonville FL and am 10.1 miles from the broadcast towers. I installed this antenna on my sunroom so it is only 8 feet off the ground. I do not use the amplifier and reception is very good. The Televes feeds a LG OLED tv. The build quality of the antenna is very good and was easy to assemble. I enjoy your videos and find them to be very informative.

[@journeyon1983]

The background brick now painted white looks so much better on your KZbin videos. Wow, this Televes DATBOSS antenna really performed well on UHF stations probably do to the built-in amp & LTE filter.

[@genesky61]

The 3 booms do good job of directing more signal to the UHF Tv antenna receiving elements. Also helps with VHF High Band Channels 7 thru 13. However very little for VHF Low Band Channels 2 thru 6. Televes has antennas that have a flattened loop at the very rear for reception of VHF Low Band Channels 2 thru 6.

[@journeyon1983]

@@genesky61 Thanks for that information Gene.

[@revdamonaconn7387]

I am actually using this particular antenna with a vertical dipole. You keep it simple and you keep it real

[@aa721ss]

I have had one of these for years and it is by far the best antenna I have ever owned. I just upgraded to another version of this antenna that add's low VHF elements. My antenna has survived two SC hurricanes and many other storms. Build quality/construction, IMO, is the best there is. I have tried all the other major brands and there just is no comparison. Due to the rise in interest for OTA antennas, I have even stocked a few in my computer store for sale and people love them.

[@friesareyummy]

You mean Low VHF elements?

[@richardgusztaw5091]

How well do you pick up Lo-VHF with this antenna. I have the Hi-VHF/UHF for the last 4 years and never had an issue with it. Interested in the Lo-VHF version to pick up channels 2, 4 and 6 out of philly at 55 miles out.

[@aa721ss]

@@friesareyummy , yes. Sorry. Dyslexia.

[@aa721ss]

@@richardgusztaw5091 , pretty good actually. There is only one station in my area that broadcasts on a low VHF fq, so I went with the antenna I have now. It seamed to help a bit with high VHF too.

[@richardgusztaw5091]

@@aa721ss Thanks

[@amerigovespucci4076]

I was very reluctant to move from a Winegard 7698p to the TELEVES DAT BOSS MIX LR. I tested the Televes for six months and it has far exceeded my wildest expectations. Flawless reception on every channel, most of which are 1 kw at a minimum of 20 miles away ranging to 67 miles. About the only negative I can think of is to allow yourself at least ONE hour to properly assemble this masterpiece. Great antenna and worth every penny!!!!!!!!

[@AntennaMan]

Thanks for sharing your experience. I didn't think it would outperform the 7698P but it looks like it did for you.

[@amerigovespucci4076]

@@AntennaMan The Televes DAT BOSS MIX LR outperformed the winegard by a wide margin on UHF, particularly the lower portion of the UHF frequencies, like Rf 14-22. On high VHF, the performance was similar to the winegard but, as you mentioned, the Televes had lower noise levels. Overnight, I am usually able to receive Rf 8, Rf 10 and Rf 12 from Phoenix with intermittent audio and video. That did not happen with the winegard. That's a tropo signal, telecasting from 90 miles away, at 3250 AMSL. The mountains between the transmitter and my antenna are 7,642 feet with my antenna at 5,300 feet in Prescott, AZ. At times, I've received stations from Las Vegas, NV and St. George, UT. Simply amazing.

[@AntennaMan]

@@amerigovespucci4076 thanks for sharing the details. I too found it to be comparable on VHF to the CM5020/CM3020. A tiny bit lower but still very good for the size.

[@TelevesUSA]

@@amerigovespucci4076 Glad to hear the DAT LR Mix worked well for you.

[@robertogalvez3865]

One hour? Lucky you! Between watching videos and assembly it took me about two hours. It was a challenge but I made sure I did it right. I was so glad when I finished and everything was OK.

[@decibellone696]

So Tyler, after watching many of your vids and, others as well. I took the leap. I live in Las Vegas and, purchased the Winegard Platinum Series HD7694P. I simply removed the direct tv dish and mounted this on the same mast in the same place. made sure it was pointed to Black Moutain, reused all the Direct TV stuff, except the power inserter. I use 2 TVs and without doing anything else the TVs found 88 channels. of course, for me only about 15 of them are useful. after we are used to the new setup (more like my wife being use to it) I'm going to move it to my Plex server using the HOMErun quatro. I just posted this here because it's the most recent post of yours I found for the moment. thanks for all your vids.

[@jamespatton3720]

Thank you Tyler for recommending this antenna, it has solved all my reception issues.

[@Noone9227]

The metal pieces on this antenna are pretty well made. I like that it has a direct 75 ohm connector instead of having to use a transformer, which is usually a pain to get on and tends to break off because the connection point is usually bigger than the clasps on the transformer.

[@genesky61]

Truth and Quality , Practical and Useful Information. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- For those situations that require a ( balun ) 300 ohm / 75 ohm matching transformer that is High Quality and Long Lasting Durability. www.channelmaster.com has the CM-3203. ------ I am now 73 years old. I am recommending / installing antennas all my life. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[@Greg-et2dp]

Antenna man you are good at explaining how Antennas work for tv sets my friend

[@1ronhall]

Nice work Tyler ....... I’m about to install the Televes Ellipse Mx as soon as the snow melts from the roof ......

[@AntennaMan]

Lots of snow in the northeast. It needs to go away

[@alwayslearning3671]

Bought and antenna and signal amp base on your reviews for a house I'm building 20 miles further from the transmitters than my current location. I'm getting 40 channels at the new location, some I couldn't get when I was closer. Thanks for your excellent reviews and explanations.

[@AntennaMan]

I'm glad my videos helped you get better reception. Feel free to give a contribution at the link below as I spend A LOT of time making the videos and responding to these comments: antennamanpa.com/support.html

[@teekay1785]

I have several UHF and VHF antennas and combos in several different locations and have had experience with multiple different antennas both small and large up to a 40 foot long 70 lb 12 element laser CB antenna . I have a Televes LR MIX I installed at my father- in - laws rural location . Being able to tilt the mount slightly was a great aide in improving signal strength/quality since his location receives a signal that is partially blocked by a high ridge several miles away and he is about 40 miles away from mid strength stations. The Televes worked better than other long range UHF antennas including the Antennas Direct 91 XG. The Televes antenna was however a little more difficult to assemble than most other UHF antennas though it was worth it. I also tried not powering the built in amplifier and placing another high quality Amplifier a few feet below the Televes antenna and it did not work any better if anything not quite as good. Another website that may be helpful if it is still available though somewhat outdated is TV FOOL but more recently I have gotten more useful station information from Rabbit Ears. Good informative unbiased video.!

[@victoryfirst2878]

Would you say this is the best antenna Sir ??? Thanks tee kay.

[@JosephSmith-sg9yv]

I have been using this antenna since last summer. At only 15 ft high it does great pulling in Baltimore channels here in York county Pa.

[@jurysdoyler]

What do you think of the build quality?

[@JosephSmith-sg9yv]

@@jurysdoyler I think very well built. Instructions putting together could be better but pictures are step by step

[@Atis602]

I have been using the Televes 148381 for about a half year now. The 148381 is the same antenna as this with elements added for VHF-Lo channels. I'm pleased with it so far. It is receiving all the channels my last antenna that was about a foot longer received. It seems quiet durable and has done well with some recent unusually strong winds for my area.

[@richardgusztaw5091]

How is your Lo-VHF reception and your distance from the transmitter. Trying to figure out if it would work 60 miles from the transmitter.

[@Atis602]

@@richardgusztaw5091 Too many variables to promise anything. I am 42 miles from channels VHF 3 and 7 with a neighbors house about 100 feet away directly in between us. I did not even know I could receive channel 3 before I replaced my broken antenna. I am very pleased with the antenna.

[@richardgusztaw5091]

@@Atis602 thanks

[@Atis602]

@@richardgusztaw5091 Just to be sure did you notice in my comment that I am speaking of a different model than the one Tyler is reviewing. The one he reviewed is not a VHF-Lo antenna.

[@richardgusztaw5091]

@@Atis602 I know

[@nicholashernandez4367]

Your videos are very informative. I always wanted to know more about the technical aspects of radio broadcasting and your videos help me learn about those things.

[@TimmyMoza]

Good vid. Agree on the general quality of the Televes lineup although I did have an older preamp that failed oddly and I couldnt get it serviced... so hist got that new preamp with the AGC built in... much more satisfied with that one anyway. Regarding this antenna, we will be moving to a new place shortly and will consider this as part of the new setup. Thanks again for the detailed reviews.

[@1957mrbill]

I was having signal issues with an older Antennas Direct DB8 during hotter days. I tried a new solid copper coax, and an FM trap, but the problem persisted. I even dropped the antenna and tried cleaning any connections I could find. Nothing would resolve the issue. Not knowing where the problem was, I decided to purchase the Televes DAtboss LR Mix antenna. I now have a better reception than the old Antennas Direct antenna when It was working OK. I got it at Lowes since it was in stock and they brought it out to my truck without having to go into the store. The only negative is the assembly instructions. They are just small pictures on a sheet of paper. I would recommend watching assembly videos on KZbin if you do purchase this antenna.

[@AntennaMan]

I agree the assembly instructions are poor.

[@robertogalvez3865]

@@AntennaMan It is always better to watch the KZbin videos on how to assemble this antenna.That`s what I did. It is not really hard to assemble but most americans are not used to follow instructions from just pictures.

[@lblerg]

Thanks for the Recommendation. I am in Conroe Texas and 40-55 miles from the antennas, just bought the home. Put this up on the roof, tuned it with a little portable TV i bought during Katrina. Patched it in through the DTV sat connection which had some really large RG6 that went about 65 feet across the home to a distribution box in my closet. Plugged in the antenna without the Televes filter/gadget and got channels, but low signal strength. Plugged in the gadget now they are all full strength. Am I seeing the signal strength from the Televes gadget or is that the actual OTA signal? Cant get my brain around that quite yet. Anyways, i have it going to a channel master distribution x4 to 3 other rooms and ALL tv stations come in with full signal, even PBS which is supposed to be weak in my area. Great recommendation!

[@WildBarfMan]

They were out of this model when I got mine so I got a #148381 with the Low VHF. Can’t put it up yet due to weather. I am pulling in 36 channels with no preamp sitting in my bedroom closet. I am impressed. I can’t wait to get this up. I should have no problem pulling in the low vhf channels 70 miles away, as I am already getting channel 6 some days.

[@TelevesUSA]

Should work better if you power the preamp up

[@JRobert111111]

Nobody shows any stock of the 148381. May I ask where you purchased your's?

[@peterflynn2111]

There is a few of those around here in Sebastopol Vic Australia

[@Noone9227]

You need a size 10 metric wrench for the screws, which I didn’t notice until after I installed the antenna that it was included. The screws that are squared off on the inside but going into round holes on the boom will go in once they are tightened.

[@Noone9227]

Installed this antenna. Amazingly easy to put together except one thing.....those goofy mounting pole connectors. Because the support arms are curved, there are two adjustments you have to do to those mounting brackets. There is no ratchet or any guide on the support arms to tell you exactly where they’re supposed to go. As I was struggling with the mounting brackets, I broke off one of the adjacent deflector rods. This antenna is amazingly strong yet I managed to still break off one of the deflector arms. Tried gluing it back on with Gorilla Glue, which managed to only stick to my hands and my shirt. I originally wrote that I lost a couple of additional channels that I was getting with a test run using a small TV and a short cable up in the attic. Channel scan was not picking them up on the TVs in the bedroom and family room. I later discovered that if I punched in the RF channel or the virtual channel number directly, the TV picked up and added the channels. The signals were apparently too weak to be picked up by channel scan. I put a terminator cap on the second output of the amplifier. My reception ended up being the same as it was when I did the test run in the attic. The reception is more stable and the signal levels much stronger than the 8-bay antenna I used before.

[@lobstermania4025]

I am going to have this antenna installed at the end of the month to replace my LR RCA that is great for VHF but not so good for UHF. I hope the TELEVE lives up to its name. Thank you

[@miketrink2111]

I have this antenna here in Ancaster, Ontario, just west of Hamilton. With one bay facing Toronto (42. mi) and the other facing Buffalo, NY (transmitters 79.4 mi) we get all the major broadcasters from Canada and the States. I do use the telves filter that you recommended in an earlier video. We get clear signals on all except the odd time with NBC channel 2. I very pleased with the antenna overall.

[@mrnapolean1]

Installed this one on top of a 30 Foot tower at my sisters house. She lives pretty far (closest transmitter being 60 miles away) and down in a valley with lots of trees. She now gets 26 channels from two TV markets (Bryan/Collage Station and Waco).

[@kevin1gasman]

Thank antenna man . I just installed this unit . I got better reception and went from 35 channels to 47 channels . The instructions was pretty good on how to put it together they even give a tool with it for the nuts bolts . Tee handle 10m

[@AntennaMan]

Glad you got it when you had the chance - it's sold out everywhere now.

[@douglascalhoun6471]

Glad you liked the antenna, it is the only one I have tried that can get Albany stations from almost 50 miles away 2 edge. I considered it money well spent.

[@AntennaMan]

Glad to hear you have good results with it!

[@thedavidchannel5473]

How's the VHF reception? (NBC13, FOX23, MY51)

[@RobbieStrike]

Watched this video in fast playback speed, It was quite amusing! That would be my next antenna my my area!

[@AntennaMan]

Thanks for watching Robbie!

[@hubkap8479]

I requested information from Tyler and he suggested for my situation This Model along with the Televes Datboss Mix. Its Winter now but I'am thinking of getting this or the Datboss Mix antenna. I hope Tyler does and test on the Televes Datboss Mix antenna too.. I hope that Tyler would also give the Dimension of these outside antenna in his videos. The size difference is quite significant between the Datboss LR Mix and the Datboss Mix. Great video with very useful information.

[@AcousticallyYours]

Tyler, I’m new to your channel (within the last week) and as someone with an electronics background, I am impressed with your content. I also have been writing poems for a number of years, many of a technical nature. So I thought you might enjoy this one... Transmission Transgressions Life on the short wave Done with frequency Modulating amplitudes Almost unspeakably Singing side bands With discrimination Across the airwaves Moderate interpolation There seems to be reluctance With the foibles and coils Have they no capacity For microfarad tenacity? With vacuum tube grids Done with regulation Current suppression Cathode retaliations Thermionic emissions Provide amplified responses From voltage variations Under the right conditions Transistorized semiconductors From emitter-base junctions Checks ICBO leakage Just what are their functions? Imaginary currents Living on the Z-axis Wave propagation While amplitude max's Frequency modulations Without discrimination Oscillates rhythmically Throughout the nation Perhaps radio frequencies Illegally transmitted On single side-band carriers Should be omitted Antenna propagation Transmitting through the nation Offers overworked broadcasters A much needed vacation (c) BAM (fortbruce)

[@viazel2796]

Great video! I wish I cause get this connected up to my house... man oh man! Cable kick rocks! Keep them coming! Thank you!

[@villumschroeder1255]

Excellent . Very helpful.

[@robertogalvez3865]

I really envy you Tyler. I wish I had one those H30 signal meters but they are too expensive for my pocket. Thanks again for another excellent video. Cheers!

[@markjones2349]

With all of your antenna knowledge it would be cool if you designed an antennae to beat all cheap commercial antennas. Would be really cool to use metal tubing and maybe a 3D printer to make connectors and things. Ever considered doing that?

[@jpmopar]

engineering an antenna takes a lot more knowledge than installation and testing know how. knowing the length of the elements for the specific frequency of the channels you are trying to receive is only part of the design and engineering of a better antenna.

[@handlesrtwitterdontbelivethem]

i want red wall back is more calming with my eyes

[@genesky61]

I agree red type bricks are more friendly to look at.

[@johnnyjohnson8658]

Like the Antenna ,Wish I could figure out why I lose some channels during the day and get them back at night with good signal

[@AlzWorld57]

Johnny Johnson Your problem has to do with the bounce of solar interference from the sun... your antenna needs to be mounted higher (30+ feet) to avoid this.

[@ansiviewer]

Be sure to create a video explaining how the testing equipment functions, be brief...a live test is best like all your other videos...great job!

[@nekansasfisherman2334]

The Clearstream 4 isn’t a old design. I wonder how this compares to that? I’m getting stations 50 miles away with the Clearstream 4 on a RCA rotator. Under certain weather conditions I don’t even need the rotator. I also have a 4 element FM antenna above it and they both go into a splitter. I’m starting to think the FM antenna is helping my UFH reception. What do you think?

[@jurysdoyler]

The DAT LR Mix is much higher gain than the Clearstream 4 both on UHF and VHF. It is a much more directional design as well. The Clearstream 4 will have a broader beam pattern.

[@AntennaMan]

The ClearStream 4 is a very basic small directional antenna with limited gain. The LR Mix will outperform it.

[@kevincheney6832]

Tyler - Televes also makes a DAT BOSS MIX antenna for Low-VHF/High-VHF/UHF on their site. It's listed as Ref. 148281 Kit: Antenna + PSU (ref. 550104). It includes a longer dipole for low-VHF. I haven't been able to locate one in the USA but with your connections you may be able to get one and test it. It looks like it would be great.

[@AntennaMan]

I know your model. They're sold out everywhere. When it's back in stock I'll see if Televes wants me to review it.

[@fastkickin]

Like to see Wineguard bring back the Wedge they had in the 80's. Put the Televes up against a CM 4228 they nearly pick up stations at 170 degrees and if a person has a hard time getting a clear view with no trees the CM 4228 does well for UHF and it would get high band VHF decent since I use a CM preamp.

[@CardboardGuy]

First.. Happy Wednesday! Can’t wait to learn about this antenna!!

[@4marc2]

I am curious how much of the increase in signal is fue to the amplifier

[@villumschroeder1255]

I have a Winegard HD7694P. I can get KTLA (RF 35) fairly reliably and the broadcast tower is over 100 miles from me! I want to try to get some more stations from Los Angeles but most are RF channels 7 through 13 (Hi VHF). Stellar Labs has a Deep Fringe Hi VHF but it's almost 7 feet long!

[@AntennaMan]

If you have stations from 100 miles away there's no way around it - you'll need a larger antenna especially if the signals are on VHF.

[@weggy3]

hi antenna Man. question... with the datboss lr mix 149884. is the horizontal aiming the more important fine adjustment or is vertical aiming required also. thanks :)

[@dadanomadi834]

I had this antenna and sent it back. I'm 69 miles from most stations with edge 2 obstructions. I originally had the Xtreme Signal Long Range Yagi Style UHF HDTV Antenna (HDB91X) and thought the Televes would be a little better but to my surprise the $49 Xtreme Signal antenna picked up several more stations and more stable. With the Televes I actually lost a couple of channels (even more loss without the pre-amp engaged). I do have a Channel Master cm-7777hd pre-amp on the Xtreme Signal but find it performs just as well without it if you have 1 TV . Can't see paying more than double the price for the Televes and fewer stations unless you need the amp that does come with it. No substitute for a long boom. The Televes did nothing to pick up the one VHF station I wanted at 69 miles. I need a separate VHF antenna. I guess it all comes down to what works best in an area. Sometimes cheaper is better, but the Televes is not a bad buy considering the pre-amp is included (and you do need it with that antennas shorter boom). I would make sure it is returnable if needed.

[@AntennaMan]

Interesting. Thanks for your report. I will have to retest the HDB91X at my new location to see if this is the case.

[@TelevesUSA]

Based on the environment description (no line of sight, unstable channels) this seems like a multipath issue. The 91XG style antennas are much longer which helps make them slightly more directional than the DAT LR, which may be of benefit in this particular situation. There's no hard and fast rule here, there will be cases where the extra directivity will be of benefit and others where the slightly larger spread will be of benefit. As far as gain is concerned the two antennas are neck and neck.

[@JohnSmith-zo1ic]

tyler, when you do your comparisons do you add a preamp to antennas without a built in preamp for a fair comparison. the one i am most interested in is the televes lr mix antenna compared to the channel master 5030.

[@mikeo1166]

Good info, i was looking to get more information and willing to pay the 40$ fee...but not sure what the "starting at 40$ meant) and had a question? I figured I'd go to your website for answers, contact info and an email address...but apparently that is for sponsors only. Not sure why this has to be difficult to ask a simple question about a paid service and not the "antennas" themselves. If I missed something, please lmk, if not, maybe something needs to be fixed.

[@UHF43]

Televés is the standard here in Spain, as you may guess. Their antennas are everywhere.

[@AntennaMan]

As they should be. In the US most have cheap unbranded antennas from China. A lot of flat ones or the one with the built in rotator

[@mv805]

Televes Datboss LR Mix vs Televes Dinova Boss Mix?

[@AntennaMan]

I already reviewed both models. Check out my other videos to see how they compare

[@johnshea9526]

I live in Norman ok. I have a outside antenna it brings in 65 channels but the one I have is one you say don't buy. Can you tell me a better one to use and the brand name I would like to get the most out of my antenna. Thank you

[@sandman_7326]

Hello , Do you happen to have a best antenna list from 1 to 10 up to date from the antennas that you been reviewing ?

[@AntennaMan]

There is no one that's the best for everyone. I have a general list of some of the top antennas below: www.amazon.com/shop/antennaman

[@richardalaziz9481]

Tyler, will this antenna function well in an attic installation? If so, can you offer the best way to ground the antenna if installed in an attic. Thank you, and very much appreciate the content you provide.

[@AntennaMan]

You can use any antenna in the attic but there will be about a 30% signal loss depending on your building material. I am unable to comment on grounding advice due to liability issues.

[@richardalaziz9481]

@@AntennaMan thank you very much. Is there a particular antenna that you feel works best in an attic install? I no longer have cable, and will use the antenna mostly for local news and weather. Thank you again!

[@baronvonfritz]

Do you know if Televes is going to adjust their antennas again for the Post-Repack UHF bands? With a tighter bandwidth, it seems like more gain can be had. This antenna still strongly picks up the now 5G RF channel 36-52. I was wondering since youre now sponsored, if you had a better source than the generic salesman contact.

[@nohandle227]

Looks like a good antenna!......but, those hollow tubes tho. I would find something to cap them off to keep something from living in them...

[@JRobert111111]

That is a great point of concern for me as well.

[@billiericky9205]

Previously I had purchased this Antanna and it wasn't Doing a good job; knowing I am only 30 MI from antanna local channels....Turnd out that the Televes power amp was falty! After figuring this out and removing the Televes power amp, the Antenna is now doing a better job! So now I will purchase an new power amp to see if it will improves...

[@AntennaMan]

Which part of the power amplifier was bad - the power inserter that plugs into the wall or the amplifier built into the antenna?

[@billiericky9205]

@@AntennaMan It seems to be the one that plugs into the wall....The white box around it the has Televes on it is cracked. I was so excited about this antanna....I pray it truly is just the box...Otherwise I'll be paying my neighbor to get a latter and get way up on the poll and change to a larger channel master or RCA you recommend. Love your blogs watch them all and I subscribed!

[@gelincicome]

I have one of these antennas and it seems to have failed both the inside distributor and I guess the outside electronics. Can they be replaceaster? Thank you.

[@therealcoreb]

This question may not be big enough to warrant its own video, but when would you use the different models of the Televes antennas? I see lowes offers this DATBOSS LR Mix, but it also has the Ellipse Mix. Tried examining the radiation patterns on Televes' site which looks like UHF has a wider width/shallower depth of pickup on the Ellipse than the DATBOSS. But I didn't understand the BI & BIII to know what I'm comparing.

[@TelevesUSA]

The DAT LR is higher gain in UHF as compared to the Ellipse Mix. BI is Low VHF and BIII is High UHF

[@5argetech56]

Finally a quality antenna maker with a built-in amplifier. Unlike the other garbage antennas that need to be thrown away as soon as you purchase them.

[@genesky61]

Truth and Quality Practical and Useful Information. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tv and FM antennas for the communications industry. These antennas are designed for close to zero down time. www.wadeantenna.com Both Wade Antenna and Televes.

[@davidmcpeak5559]

Will this antenna work in an attic instalation?

[@AntennaMan]

Yes, you can put any antenna in the attic but understand there's about a 30% signal loss when the antenna is hiding in the attic. If you don't get reliable reception with it in the attic it will have to go outside.

[@mikeblank7165]

The votes are in..... This is a good video. I will now, "have an awesome day". .

[@cggage]

Hi, thanks for the great information! With the loss of Locast, I'm now expanding my OTA antenna to feed my HDHomeRun for the channels I used to get on Locast. Well, long story short - here in the DC Metro area, I can pick up the UHF channels on a rusty tin can, it seems. But, to pick up 7 and 9 in DC, or 11 in Baltimore - forget it. (Those are the actual RF channels). In a nutshell, I can't receive the VHF channels for anything due to location and living in a condo (rooftop antenna is not possible). Have you ever reviewed the ClearStream 5 VHF which appears to be a directional VHF antenna? What I need is a great high-gain VHF. I can (and do) use a small Yagi or loop for the UHFs. Do you have any suggestions? The ClearStream 5 is about the maximum size I can stick on my balcony without the HOA "Condo Commandoes" screaming at me. Thanks!

[@AntennaMan]

No plans to review the ClearStream 5. Below is a really good dedicated VHF antenna: amzn.to/3EHCZdB

[@anthonymcmillan9768]

Thank- You Came across you imformation, very helpfull. I am a new listner so thanks

[@BigRonRN18]

Can you do a direct comparison between the Televes Ellipse series with the DAT BOSS series of antennas? Due they use the same filtering and pre-amp and only differ on physical build or different filtering/pre-amp beyond the different physical build? I've gone to the company website and they seem to obfuscate the differences. It would be nice to see a head-to-head comparison using measuring equipment with objective data. I'm looking at the Ellipse Mix vs the DAT BOSS Mix (or Mix LR) and want to make sure I'm happy about my decision; knowing that if I am making a compromise, WHY I'm making the compromise.

[@AntennaMan]

I already have a review of the Ellipse on my channel. I'm told by Televes the Ellipse has lower gain on the UHF band than the LR Mix but the same VHF gain.

[@AntennaMan]

Also the Ellipse has slightly more UHF gain than the DATBOSS Mix

[@glennoconnor2980]

I don't have this reviewed antenna but I do have a Televes product in my attic which is located some 70 miles from KCMO. That market is all UHF and this, Televes model# 149983, does a respectable job. Reception isn't 100% across all channels at all times. I don't believe Tyler has reviewed my model. Apparently solid build.

[@KA4UPW]

Let your sponser know im gonna buy this one ! Also would like a video on the meter your using

[@TelevesUSA]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2HUkn-An9Z_Y5o

[@dennisyoung4966]

When you compare antennas you compare the last two antennas , would it be possible to compare to the best performing antenna every time instead

[@AntennaMan]

I don't this because it would hurt the views of my videos which is the main support of my KZbin channel. If someone wants to see what the best antenna is for a specific frequency they have to check out my other videos. If they don't want to do the research they can sign up for an antenna recommendation on my website.

[@davidhodge6816]

I am wondering did you try the other two with a preamp to see what the difference was

[@spark74985]

Would like to see information about 30ft or less free standing mast.

[@power-max]

did they discontinue the model or are they just not able to keep up stock? It's out of stock EVERYWHERE!

[@AntennaMan]

No, there are supply chain issues because no one wanted to work for a while

[@power-max]

@@AntennaMan what antenna would you recommend for out in a rural setting in the woods on a mountainside? There is a cluster of stations in one direction and another cluster 90 degrees. Also got the mountainside to contend with. There is what I believe to be a small repeater station at the top of the mountain.

[@power-max]

Is the CM-4228HD any good?

[@DavidWilson-qn8ve]

I have a old house with years of leaded paint on the inside. A antenna will need to be outside. Repeater tower is 12 miles away. Which antenna would do best for me.

[@AntennaMan]

It's hard to say without running a reception report. You can find a list of general recommended antennas or sign up for an antenna recommendation from me below. www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html

[@akamanonthemoon]

So if some put this up in their attic you would have to find somewhere up there to plug it in for power or does it have the inserter that can be plugged near the TV?

[@AntennaMan]

Yes, it does come with a power inserter you can plug in near the TV set.

[@rockrollrc56]

Hi Tyler, I have watched all your videos very informative! Hey I'm looking to replace my antenna it's one of those cheap ones your always talking about you even dropped one and it fell to pieces!🤣 It did work pretty good for about 2 1/2 years in my area but now it's fubar!😵 So I'm looking for the best in your opinion UHF/VHF omni directional (I have stations to the east and west) antenna. I live in Lake Wales Fl the farthest station is around 65 miles. The Televes has my attention but isn't it directional? Also the DB8E has my interest. I don't want to have to use a rotor.

[@AntennaMan]

If you're 65 miles away from the towers an omni directional antenna is unlikely to work well. You'll either need a two antenna setup or a rotator.

[@rockrollrc56]

@@AntennaMan is the DB8e like a 2 antenna system? It can point in 2 directions....right?

[@AntennaMan]

@@rockrollrc56 that might work but you could also get multipath interference. The DB8E is also a UHF only antenna. I would highly suggest an antenna recommendation from me at the link below to look deeper at things . www.antennamanpa.com/antenna-recommendations.html

[@rockrollrc56]

@@AntennaMan Thanks Tyler, I just ordered the Televes DATBOSS Mix antenna , the RCA Vh226e rotor and the rotor wire. Your information helped me with my decision. Way more than I was expecting to spend $248.58 all together😵 but I want to do it right this time!😉 Thanks again!!😁

[@rockrollrc56]

Hey Tyler, got my new Televes DATBOSS MIX and my RCA Vh226e rotor yesterday. What a huge difference!! I actually had to lower it 6ft lower than the other junk antenna I had and it works 100% better it wouldn't scan more than 40 channels at 30ft lowered it 6ft and scanned in 86 channels!! Thanks again for all your advice!

[@johnblanchard9926]

I have tried many different antennas with mixed results. This is the last one I will need to buy. I live 45 miles from towers with hilly terrain in between. I was pulling 30 channels with mediocre reception. I now have 50 channels most with the signal meter maxed out. My antenna is in my single story house attic. Awesome antenna!

[@TelevesUSA]

Glad it's working well for you

[@AntennaMan]

Thanks for sharing your results John. I'm also glad it's working out well for you. I did find this antenna to do an incredible job on the UHF band.

[@chtyan]

Wish I could find one to try in my area.

[@lobstermania4025]

What is the gain on this antenna? I need the strongest UHF I can get being 75 miles out. Thank you young man!

[@pjetermustakuqipietro307]

About more than 2 month, i'm having distubing signal from cel towers due to 4-5G antenas. The fun fact is that, that interference shows more at night, when tempererature gets lower. On my DVB T2 Decoder, there at the other room tv, there's no disturbed signal. I'm kinda confused.

[@yaksterIC]

The one thing that you don't mention is the direction in relation to the face of the antenna. Some antennas are more directional than others. It would be helpful to understand the strength given the direction for those in between 2 markets. I have signal coming from the W, S and N. I can usually get 2 of 3 given with the right antenna.

[@yaksterIC]

@belly tripper funny. I am talking directions like 45° from center.

[@genesky61]

Truth and Quality Practical and Useful Information. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some times a omni directional antenna , the ones that look like UFO'S will do it. They do good at receiving UHF channels 14 thru 36. So , So , at receiving VHF High Band Channels 7 thru 13. Real Bad at receiving VHF Low Band Channels 2 thru 6. Also a down side of the UFO antennas is they also receive multipath reflections of all directions. www.channelmaster.com has a UFO antenna with dipole rods for the VHF High Band Channels. Turn the antenna buy hand so as to find the best reception. And tighten the clamps.

[@THECURELOST13]

Hi Tyler, do you have any way of finding out when these will be 'available' again? seems wiped out over the whole internet. i didn't see any of this brand in your link. thank you for your time, and all that you do!!

[@AntennaMan]

Probably in the next month or two. This antennas is available on the Ness Electronics website but is being price gouged at $250

[@THECURELOST13]

@@AntennaMan THANKS! i found a place that was only $150 but out of stock. and another place that seems to be in stock thats about $190 w/ ship/tax.

[@ElyFrankes]

My challenging reception situation. 3 VHF-Hi primary ch., miles: ... NW 39, 34< ... >16 SE 2 UHF primary channels ... NW 34, 30< … > + Heavy, windy woods! Tyler did a custom antenna recommendation for me of this Televes DAT BOSS LR Mix for outdoor installation. I want to wait until my roof gets replaced in the Spring (damage from 100+ mph winds). Last fall I started to experiment with indoor antennas to "get by" until Spring. I tried the Clearstream 2Max plus Televes Bexia 8½x11 and Ellipse (more compact version of the DAT BOSS) for indoor mounting. The rear reflectors on the Ellipse (like DAT BOSS) killed my 16 mile PBS VHF-Hi reception from the rear. The 2Max with optional refector is doing an amazing (not quite perfect) job indoors in a top story closet; almost good enough as is (in summer though, I'll have windy leaves to contend with, I'll have to see). My concern is that the DAT BOSS LR Mix with it's reflector will also kill my PBS VHF-Hi reception from the rear. Tyler or other viewers … thoughts? Results: AntennaWeb.org photos.app.goo.gl/X93r9CYBAuwKvTfT7

[@TelevesUSA]

The Ellipse and DAT antennas have a fairly high F/B ratio. DAT: >12dB (High VHF), >25dB (UHF) / Ellipse: >20dB. The High VHF reflectors on both the DAT and Ellipse will greatly hinder any reception for the rear, but help greatly with the main aim gain (this is why these antennas perform much better in VHF as compared to other products that only have a VHF dipole add-on for VHF). You may want to experiment removing the rear VHF reflectors (the wider ones) to help receiving that channel from the back, and see if the forward gain is still enough to receive your front facing channels. Another option is to use two antennas and combine them using an Avant X unit.

[@genesky61]

Truth and Quality , Practical and Useful Information. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.antennasdirect.com , 4MAX , No reflector screen , receives the same at the front and back of the antenna. A stand alone Televes amplifier will help if signals need to be bumped up.

[@gmcjetpilot]

My market has NBC on Low VHF... RF channel 5. Yeah. That one is also in a different direction from other stations transmitter antennas.

[@classic287]

That sounds like a pretty good antenna 👍

[@AntennaMan]

It is for most situations. Now if you are in an area with mostly VHF it might be worth trying an antenna designed for that.

[@JRobert111111]

Not sure about the 2 TV output whereas I use a Channel Master CM3418 8-way powered splitter and I'm using 6 of the outputs. Wouldn't cascading amplifiers be detrimental? I know, there is the power through feature of the Televes unit. Best of luck on your new location and look forward to more of your content!

[@genesky61]

Truth and Quality , Practical and Useful Information. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cascading amplifiers is like asking for reception problems. Is better to think about what coax needs to where so as to reduce coax wiring problems. And just because something antenna amplifier says has 2 outputs does not mean have to use both outputs. Any way simplify is the best course of action. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ And this - powered splitter thing - brings on missunderstandings. What it really is , is a distribution amplifier.

[@JRobert111111]

@@genesky61 Here is the Channel Master "thingy" unit I'm using: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002M1EPL0/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 I don't think it is a bad unit, but I'm most likely wrong as I am with most things. I have 6 tuners being used in the house and the extra 2 outputs are terminated with terminating resistors. All of my wiring is clean, Belden and Commscope RG-6 with Thomas & Betts 3GHz snap and seal connectors. I ran the RG-6 myself before the drywall went up while my home was being built. My antenna is ancient and gone through a couple of moves. It's around a 1990 Radio Shack VU-90, and is a bit battered and broken. I'd like to replace it this spring and looking at options. Thank you for treating me like a moron, I really do appreciate it.

[@dpt4402]

Televes DATBOSS LR Mix Outdoor Antenna works great in an attic also

[@genesky61]

Truth and Quality , Practical and Useful Information. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Well Ok. However here is a Real and Actual Truth. Attics Will Obstruct and Degrade Reception. There Are No Magic Attics. There Are No Magic Antennas.

[@dpt4402]

@@genesky61 I agree but some folks an attic maybe the best or only option. I happen to have experience with this antenna and the stations that were obtainable in my market on the roof were also available in an attic setting. Maxing out at at a 50 mile tower distance. One benefit in an attic setting it is now not exposed to damaging winds.

[@genesky61]

Even so , attics still obstruct and degrade reception.

[@kevin1gasman]

I’m about to Install the antenna out side does have the link to find the Tower from your Location . Which way to point the antenna

[@AntennaMan]

See video below - kzbin.info/www/bejne/d3WYaq2cdtmgbNE

[@keithgehrke3588]

Do you still recommend this antenna for long range or dose Televes have a new model ?

[@AntennaMan]

The new version is a bit better as it has more gain and a 5G filter. You can find it at the link below: amzn.to/3ytD1U8

[@keithgehrke3588]

@@AntennaMan Thanks~ will this model get low and high UHF & VHF ? I'm in the Dallas market. Call Sign Affiliate Virtual Channel DTV Channel Band True Heading Distance Displayed on TV Real Channel WFAA-HD ABC 8.8 30 UHF 203.20° 49.71 mi Twist Twist 8.9 30 UHF 203.20° 49.71 mi KDTN-DT Daystar 2.1 29 UHF 203.34° 49.71 mi KDTN-ES Daystar Español 2.2 29 UHF 203.34° 49.71 mi Oxygen Oxygen 5.4 36 UHF 203.12° 49.95 mi KXAS-DT NBC 5.1 24 UHF 203.12° 49.95 mi COZI-TV COZI TV 5.2 24 UHF 203.12° 49.95 mi NBCLX LX 5.3 24 UHF 203.12° 49.95 mi WFAA ABC 8.1 8 VHF 203.72° 50.17 mi AccuWX Weather 8.2 8 VHF 203.72° 50.17 mi Crime True Crime Network 8.3 8 VHF 203.72° 50.17 mi Quest Quest 8.4 8 VHF 203.72° 50.17 mi ShopLC Shop LC 8.5 8 VHF 203.72° 50.17 mi KDFW-DT FOX 4.1 35 UHF 203.72° 50.17 mi KDFW D2 MyN 4.2 35 UHF 203.72° 50.17 mi Heroes Heroes & Icons 4.3 35 UHF 203.72° 50.17 mi GetTV GetTV 4.4 35 UHF 203.72° 50.17 mi FOX FOX 4.1 34 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi KTVT-DT CBS 11.1 19 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi StartTV Start TV 11.2 19 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi DABL Dabl 11.3 19 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi FAVE Fave TV 11.4 19 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi KTXA-DT Independent 21.1 18 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi QVC QVC 21.2 18 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi ThisTV This TV 21.3 18 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi Circle Circle 21.4 18 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi HSN HSN 21.5 18 UHF 201.33° 52.43 mi KXIICBS CBS 12.1 12 VHF 349.88° 54.91 mi KXIIMYT MyN 12.2 12 VHF 349.88° 54.91 mi KXIIFOX FOX 12.3 12 VHF 349.88° 54.91 mi KXIIION ION 12.4 12 VHF 349.88° 54.91 mi

[@patrickmartin4996]

How does the Televes compare with the XTreme UHF model you tested a while back?

[@Archivist953]

Hello Kyle - Great Videos! BTW how do I keep birds off my Channel Master CM-4228HD? Thanks!

[@AirPogi]

Is this better than the Ellipse Mix from last year, Tyler?

[@AntennaMan]

Yes for UHF

[@AirPogi]

@@AntennaMan Thanks!

[@keithdaniels2387]

Tyler, I have a Question? I'm curious to ask why you didn't mention that Televes also has an indoor antenna named Bexia? Is it any good?

[@AntennaMan]

I tried the Bexia and it worked okay. I didn't highlight it because indoor antennas have huge limitations. Most will not get reliable reception with one.

[@robertogalvez3865]

@@AntennaMan Any plans on doing a video on the Bexia or the Innova Boss from Televes?

[@olimazi9911]

does the power wire for the preamp need to be run to the roof

[@AntennaMan]

No it sends power through the coax cable through an included power inserter.

[@LawrenceRhodes]

149884, 148383 , 149883. What are the differences? Big jump in price of each.