Telling Minthara that I've already killed all the tieflings

So, I started a genocide run... And well... Minthara won't completely acknowledge that I've already killed every single inhabitant of the grove, sadly. But at least to some extend.

[@brandenharder6378]

wdym they never found the grove it's a straight line from their front door

[@GeneralSezme]

The gate was camouflaged with ivy

[@brandenharder6378]

but it's also only hundreds of meters away

[@shadowshedinja6124]

Goblin eyesight is probably not the best, and drow are even worse at seeing in the sunlight.

[@Ivashanko]

Ludonarrative dissonance.

[@holographicsupernova863]

no its like 1 turn to the left then a straight line thats pretty hard for goblins

[@TheFlyingPilgrim]

I can’t believe anyone tries to stick up for Sazza, considering you save her life, rescue her, and after doing all of that, she suggests killing you to Minthara.

[@mmull6809]

If you spare her now you can command her to gut herself later with the other goblins in Ketheric’s throne room

[@jvcbonno6292]

I did it for the achievement alone 🤣

[@daniellox1]

shes cute

[@gauss_wyo]

@@daniellox1 no way bruhh

[@TheRealLarcin]

​@@daniellox1 in like a deformed pug sort of way?

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

Minthara : "Here, look into my mind" *BDSM spider dungeon* 0_0

[@kiro253]

Ah shit...goddamn lolth sworn drow

[@sturmnacht8503]

Dream come true

[@HumanPerson_final]

Don't stick your dice in crazy, they say, but we're going to do it anyway.

[@MorlockTrxsh]

oooooo no, ive fallen and cant get up 😱 i really hope no freaky spider mommy comes and pegs me!! oooOOoOoo that would be so bad! Especially bc im so helpless oh noooooo 👀

[@GrievousSpino]

@@MorlockTrxsh lmao my thoughts exactly...... 😳

[@bingonight1504]

No one ever questions why a camp full of goblins couldnt find the giant druid camp five minutes away from them

[@Riinkz]

They *are* goblins, after all...

[@collinfant5146]

Because Wyll kills them when they do.

[@zombieoverlord5173]

Because it's not actually 5 minutes away

[@MOTO-pr3vq]

apparently, lore wise its like how far Paris and Moscow is lol. thats how even minthara being there she couldnt find it

[@bingonight1504]

@@MOTO-pr3vq that's crazy. We must have really long legs

[@htavli]

Here's how my conversation went with Minthara: "Ignis!"

[@imjustagorl]

thats exactly how mine went too😂

[@hexbrennisteinn]

"Miss!"

[@Erichx14]

I shoved her down the chasm not knowing she was a potential companion

[@kiro253]

​@@hexbrennisteinnAh yes...of coz

[@j-dawg4774]

Facts. She was clearly evil, and her voice flat out creeped me out

[@irenesama6700]

So Minthara does acknowledge Astarion as an elf,😮 I was looking for this for so long.😅 I love how she calls elves “faerie” 🧚 😂

[@Asvnaro]

Ikr?! I was an Elf my first time meeting her, and I felt flattered. Like that’s such a nice compliment! She phrases it like an insult or slur, but it’s anything but!

[@RazielTheUnborn]

She calls Half-Drow abominations.

[@ahaetulla]

I know "fairy" is what they call elves but it certainly seemed like a very different kind of slur

[@MrJustonemorevoice]

*Angry twink noises*

[@Turamwdd]

Well, it is fitting for this character regardless of which way she meant it.

[@chadtaylor7756]

@@Turamwdd 😂😂😂😂

[@InspiringBard]

Drow are historically intolerant of.. everything.

[@davidiceberg2744]

Loth-sworn drow hate everyone and especially surface elves

[@andrewklang809]

"Ohh...Sazza." Tingles. Happy tingles. Up and down the spine.

[@J-Kimble]

I know right? :D

[@lawrencefosterjenkins8216]

This was actually similar to how my first playthrough went. I didn’t kill the tieflings, but I did kill kagha before exposing her as a shadow druid (didn’t know how to), which made the druids go hostile, and by the time the battle was over only my party survived. There was no battle at the gate, after I talked to minthara she already showed up at the grove and proclaimed her victory. Had to kill her to keep wyll on my team, and there was no tiefling OR goblin party.

[@Riinkz]

Oof, thats unfortunate, I guess

[@lawrencefosterjenkins8216]

@@Riinkz thank god I already had an established pre-party romance, I got lucky.

[@aaronhumphrey2009]

The key to exposing Kagha is ( spoilers ) A scroll hidden on the side of a massive tree stump in the swamp that's protected by Mud Mephits. It contains details of the Shadow Druids plans.

[@lawrencefosterjenkins8216]

@@aaronhumphrey2009 trust me, I’ve known for a while now. But it took…a few playthroughs. And I despise the mud mephit battle.

[@kalinkakalinko]

same haha didn’t mean to kill them all and out of sheer anger on minthara i killed her in my camp later when she showed up to celebrate…not optimal at all though and the game still gave me a „celebrations calming down“ cut scene although everyone was dead 🤨

[@dantesapprentice4581]

The funny thing is, it's much, much, MUCH easier to destroy the goblins and their three leaders at their base, rather than face them at the grove. You have the element of surprise at their base, and that alone is incredibly powerful in this game.

[@poxelus]

Yeah, you can take them in medium groups and even rest in-between, which is better than taking all of them at once.

[@flameconvoy7424]

The goblin priestess you can get completely alone if you killed her giant before hand and if you destroy minthara’s orb, she’ll only have a handful of goblins in support. Droz though, when I fought him I ended up triggering the whole base to attack

[@earlingy]

You don't even have to fight her if you first let her brand you 😉

[@mezz9159]

@@flameconvoy7424 For Droz i could just throw some Goblins into the spider pit and they basically worked for me. You can befriend the spiders beforehand.

[@AssistInRiots]

@@flameconvoy7424first playthrough I fought Droz first during the ritual, then lost, went to jail, barely survived breaking out of jail with rocks and fists but mostly Halsin going apeshit on everyone as a bear

[@magister343]

In my third playthrough, I attacked one of the Shadow Druids when I first saw her in Rat form, immediately after saving Arabella from Kagha and before doing anything to uncover their conspiracy. That made the Shadow Druids hostile towards me and towards the other druids. They killed Nettles before I could defeat them. When I went back outside I found the normal druids and tieflings were all fighting each other. I mostly stayed out of the fight, but when I saw some druids were killing unarmed tieflings in the prison I tried to save them. I killed 2 druids but prevented the death of only one of the least important tiefling NPCs. When I later found Karlach, she blamed be for slaughtering all the tieflings and refused to join my party. I was forced to fight her and bring her head to the Paladins of Tyr and get Wyll his Infernal Robe instead of his horns. When I found Minthara I decided that killing one injured tiefling was less evil that slaughter a whole camp of goblins, so I decided to tell her where the grove was. Wyll abandoned me at the goblin party, so I save scummed and went on to Act 2 without going back to the grove. Minthara seemed a little bugged when I found her in Moonrise Towers, sayng dialogue meant to happen at the party, but then instead of beginning the sex scene she went on to her trial before Ketheric as usual.

[@Riinkz]

That sounds like a hell of an adventure lol

[@qzbnyv]

i ain’t reading all that i’m happy for u tho or sorry that happened

[@libertylemonz7145]

My paladin stopped that one druid woman from killing a child and ended up dueling her, the rest of the druids in the grove attacked the Tieflings so I defended said Tieflings, and when I met Karlach she called me a psychopathic monster and attacked me for it

[@danielragsdale9849]

@@qzbnyvunique comment

[@kegdoty]

@@libertylemonz7145same exact thing happened to me. It’s like Larian was punishing us for already knowing about the shadow Druid’s

[@kiemugen9830]

would be fun if after "Ill gather my band" you could say "well... the thing is they kinda mostly died too..."

[@Cynwale]

Forgive me miss, I needed blood for the blood god.

[@sultan9givewey]

dark urge be like

[@nicodes2520]

"Oh Sazza you have made a grave error." Mintharas VA is a fucking boss

[@MetastaticMaladies]

I wish there were more benefits and more content became available by raiding the grove. You experience and see more of the story if you don’t raid them, and still get Minthara, jus sucks they didn’t add more stuff for evil play throughs.

[@milat9287]

Out of curiousity, how do you get her that way? Always ended up killing her because it seemed like an "Us of Them" scenario

[@MetastaticMaladies]

@@milat9287 When you go to kill the raid leaders, when you’re attacking Minthara, use non-lethal damage, that way you reduce her to 1 hp and she becomes unconscious. The quest still completes like you killed her, but she’ll just be knocked out instead.

[@RockoEstalon]

This was added quite recently, which makes raiding the grove even more pointless.

[@PauloRicardo-md4ji]

@@MetastaticMaladies idk how that would fit the narrative at all honestly

[@MorgrumTenPrawdziwy]

@@PauloRicardo-md4ji well, later she is confronted with ketheric as useless, so we can turn her on our side... Or are you asking why should MC spare her without knowledge from the outside

[@thanhdo1963]

I am very amazed about this game voice actor

[@kissalude9032]

I love the Lloth Drow option where you can tell the goblin it your superiority should have been obivous.

[@GD2X]

You started the slaughter without me, how selfish. They were already dead. You already began the slaughter I assume?

[@xenosophont]

5:43 TONIGHT... YOU! NO HANDBANANA NOOO!!!!

[@jeremycullen]

All i know is ball and good and.....

[@xenosophont]

HandBaenre (even has the husky voice and the "bold approach") ...while you're lying down for Volo's examination, she approaches: "-so uh... you basting that rothé over here? I think it's time to check your temperature... see if the meat is just right..."

[@jeremycullen]

@@xenosophont wait back it up

[@deadinside9565]

What do you think he means...? Tonight... you?

[@Dan-fw2db]

I can't believe they added Sazza and didn't make her a romance option

[@Riinkz]

💀💀💀

[@brandenharder6378]

Playable character

[@crisramirezbeats9575]

Ain't no way

[@deadinside9565]

Gribbo Supremacy.

[@deadinside9565]

The goblussy got me acting uncouth.

[@chickendrawsdogs3343]

Durge: What's that!? Minthara: What!? BONK! Durge: Here you go, Astarion. One cool-ass gold-trimmed drow armor for my favorite vampire spawn.

[@justinbean971]

I kill that dirty vampire in every playthrough. He's obnoxious and I don't understand why people like him.

[@bustinarant]

​@@justinbean971Because he's bitchy and does a lot of damage and can pick locks if you didn't put that on your character lol

[@not_a_bt.wavformat2909]

@@justinbean971he’s just a funny guy great actor An actual racist to the point of believing gnome or dwarf slavery is good but he’s funny

[@magister343]

@@justinbean971 Because Rogues are overpowered for the first few levels, and even more overpowered if they multiclass into Gloomstalker Rangers after that. Vampire bites are also useful on occasion.

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@magister343not too mention his vampire bite gives a +1 to all rolls

[@timothywyatt3269]

Definitely gonna do a durge playthrough and probably do the evil ending for everyone in the party

[@narnianwarrior7493]

The "Oh Sazza" gets me everytime I love it

[@bonzwah1]

My first playthrough I was stand offish to khaga and ended up aggroing her which resulted in having to fight my way through the entire grove. I took my time, not realizing that the tieflings were getting fucking massacred, so by the time I arrived at their fight, the tiefling were all almost dead and were completely dead. it never occurred to me to take credit for it with minthara though haha.

[@emerealm3779]

In my first playthrough i had to fight her because my game bugged out and the druids did their ritual WAY too early. My experienced friend couldnt stop laughing at how bugged my whole first playthrough was due to this strange interaction.

[@jamesleiper6399]

Holy shit Dom Drow lady, guess i need to be evil

[@tannera.3359]

Damn I WISH the dialogue was snappy like this in-game.

[@ninjachannel007]

Minny: "I was under control when I set out to kill all of them. Why did you?" Me: "To impress you." Minny: "Eh, good a reason as any." LMAO. Don't tell Minny, that I non-lethaled all of them. Was going to come back with Shadowboobs and heal em, but she had left camp by the time I came back for some reason.

[@mrengulfeddirector]

That woman did NOT just fall Asturion a fairy

[@Riinkz]

✨ Faery ✨ I think it's meant as a racist insult tbh Just, like drows get called things like 'under-elfs'

[@fabriceclement6587]

Faerie is how Drows call their surface cousin, the one their hate is turned to.

[@user-jc9qo8hn5h]

@@fabriceclement6587 Faerie is the Drows High Elf as Hoon is the Duergar's Drow

[@Asvnaro]

@@RiinkzOh, it’s totally meant to be racist, but like, how?? I was playing as an elf and hearing that felt like a compliment lmao!

[@RazielTheUnborn]

​​​@@user-jc9qo8hn5hI doubt that since Faerie is what Drow are as all elves are Fae. Hence Drow calling their light spell *Faerie Fire* . The Feylands where all Fae originate from (including elves) is also called Plane of Faerie.

[@cainsmyth53]

how have you gotten gale to still be here after that hahaha

[@Riinkz]

@@cainsmyth53 he really hated my guts after that, but I had to do a few dice rolls 😅

[@cainsmyth53]

@@Riinkz haha anytime I play evil he leaves me in the first hour

[@nicbahtin4774]

Damn definitely worth doing a second playthrough as evils dark urge. I even get a genocidal zealot goth girlfriend.

[@robth910]

You can revive Wyll after this if you kill the druids as well, and keep him the rest of the campaign

[@ThatResolves]

Wait did she just hate crime astarion lmao

[@Riinkz]

@@ThatResolves she sure did lmao

[@mareczek00713]

Best route, I love crispy female voices.

[@ACG-Koopah333]

Tonight you are mine made me feel unsafe 😂

[@paperwave442]

I thought she was a foe, sneaked up on her and killed her 😢

[@niempi2]

Well she was a foe or n ally depending who you sided with.

[@rylibrace1276]

wAIT So i can sleep with minthara? New playthrough incoming

[@waveculture9457]

05:43 - 05:46 Yes please. :-D

[@pooscifer]

hooOOOO sazzahhhh

[@gamebuster800]

what party member left?

[@f.s.1429]

"Tieflings" just call them what they are - devils.

[@Riinkz]

@@f.s.1429 that's pretty racist of you to say

[@dsvwtrbeytnryune]

Does anyone else refer to the Absolute as "she"? Interesting.

[@Riinkz]

Most of the devoted people refer to the Absolute as 'she', since the absolute is a *goddess* to them, as shown throughout every act. Just as Mystra is referred to using the pronoun 'she'.

[@BigBuddha2012]

many cultists do.

[@blindedinchains829]

'The Absolute' is a 'she' by any presentable means. At least, the voice presents as female.

[@angryvaultguy]

They call her a Goddess so yes

[@ThomasBreaker]

She's "La Absoluta" in spanish, using the femenine pronoun

[@hithere5005]

Wow that reward weapon is absolutely useless

[@MyViolador]

food for gale

[@shakyrob6512]

Then you meet her in act 2 and it's no different than if you knocked her out and did a normal good guy knock out. Sadly there isn't any point in doing a bad guy run in BG3. Well you lose a ton of allies in the final battle and you get to romance/have sex with her. But that's it.

[@Riinkz]

I think there is a point in doing it. You do unlock a lot of unique dialogue and some content by doing an evil run. The game just tries to show you, that the evil path will always be very lonely and a lot more difficult.

[@JohnDoe-ni3bt]

Drow pussy got me going crazy, worth it

[@lyntonfleming]

No, there very much IS a difference in if you take the evil or good route in Act 1, why are you lot so insistent on lying about shit like this?

[@warlordofbritannia]

The snusnu is a compelling inducement, however

[@Nicolo-ue9xu]

Are you playing a roleplay game or what you can do what you want in BG3 even if the reward is low

[@tracymartel10]

4:53 WTF MINTHARA

[@jvp9703]

Minthara should have been a proper companion. My second favourite.

[@Riinkz]

@@jvp9703 what do you mean, exactly? You can recruit her after all...

[@jvp9703]

​@@Riinkz As in she should have been a fully fleshed out origin companion who you can play as with development and progression, duh

[@RobLennox]

I really think there should be a more neutral alignment way to kill the tieflings... They literally steal from you, and racially abuse you if you're gith or drow. Meanwhile, the goblins can seem at least as welcoming. I've RP'd quite naturally as good/neutral characters and then been cast as a monster by Wyll, Karlach, and Gale.

[@Riinkz]

I think the problem with your demand is, that you didn't take their background into account. Yes, *the children* might have stolen from you, but that's only, because they are so very desperate to stay alive. Because they have always been cast out. They are made to feel, like they don't belong. And on top of that: Yea racism is a huge think, not only in the real world. Racism is a huge motive seen in Baldurs Gate and DnD/fantasy genre itself. The tieflings are also super heart warming and lovely, if you try to break this cycle of abuse and actually act nice towards them. Apart from the fact, that a lot of them are very friendly from the beginning. If you truly want a neutral way, you shouldn't want to kill them. Because killing people, who are already in need, already shows that you are ready to be the evil part. It can not be neutral. But that's just my opinion, I do understand what you are saying :)

[@wsrtwetr]

Is this the summary of a woke mind? How's the muslims doing in your neighbourhood? How is the random crime committed by the African refugees in your area? I mean they've always been cast out. Stop being a bigot and let them rob you.

[@angryvaultguy]

Well considering giths have been killing them and have a reputation on being raiders, purist, militaristic zealots, blood thirsty. And drow are not only attacking them with goblins but have an reputation of being murderous sadists it's literally their religion and way of life It's understandable, also racially abused? That a little bit of an overreaction isn't it considering the situation and they are pretty quick to trust you in the end anyways

[@demongrave6666]

Let me guess, you think trans women are real women?

[@hobojoe9717]

Gee golly, I wonder why in the world they would not be fans of gith or drow? 🙄

[@PDilling]

So close, wish there was an option for having killed them all and it wasn’t played of as you just having killed many. This is typical BG3, though. Always half in the bag with this one. XD

[@Riinkz]

Saaame. Just feels like some of the evil options aren't all that fleshed out...

[@simonphoenix3789]

I hate how she sounds like an old woman. completely removes her as a romance option.

[@jimastra8488]

Disgusting

[@Dankus_Memeus_II]

We gettin Jews with this one

[@elllelf]

wtb some mods to make the characters attractive. Jeebus

[@1993Southparkfan]

But most of the characters are attractive though? At least in my eyes anyway. The only characters I think were NOT attractive, are the hag and the goblins, and that’s because they’re not supposed to be.

[@themongoose4675]

@@1993Southparkfan The ONLY characters? Wtf is wrong with you? Have some standards, little brother.

[@kingofgrim4761]

@@themongoose4675what are “ugly” in your mind??

[@kiro253]

​@@kingofgrim4761his mom probably

[@damien678]

​@@themongoose4675 But most of the characters are attractive. He literally did have standards by saying the hag and goblins aren't, lol.