Ten Obscure Christian Branches and Denominations

This is a video of ten obscure Christian denominations that you've probably never head of before.
This is my video on the different branches and denominations of Christianity, so I hope you enjoy! Expect more to come.
Credit goes to Redeemed Zoomer for some of the icons I used in this video.
Denominations:
Swedenborgianism (1787): 0:30
Remonstrants (17th century): 4:00
Schwenkfelder (16th century/1909): 4:39
Glasite/Sandemanian (1730): 5:44
Irvingism/Catholic Apostolic Church (1835): 7:13
New Apostolic Church (1863): 9:19
Plymouth Brethren (1825): 10:07
Christadelphians (1848): 11:43
Old Catholics/Union of Utrecht (1870): 13:08
Old Catholics/Union of Scranton (2008): 14:30

[@user-ri5ff8ll4z]

The old catholic church can actually trace its historic roots about 100 years earlier. When the diocese of Utrecht consecrated a bishop without permission of the pope. The descendants of these bishops rejected Vatican 1’s teaching on papal infallibility. They didn’t call themselves old Catholics until the 1870’s though.

[@jeanTonicplusultra]

This is truly a great yet underrated, video! I love it!!

[@ULTIMAgLasite]

Grande jean

[@iratepirate3896]

Oh hey I have a Swedenborg church near me. They are very kind people though their doctrine is rather novel.

[@geochonker9052]

Its not Christianity though. Please tell them that their works don't affect their salvation and encourage them to read Galatians

[@nxtvim2521]

​@@geochonker9052yeah, i was with the religion, i was about to say "not too heretical, honestly; life itself is a decent hell." then, "become angels when you die, and marriage in the afterlife" like no, that's not how heaven works.

[@zingerman11259]

@@nxtvim2521how do you know 👀

[@geochonker9052]

@@zingerman11259 Because of the Bible.

[@zingerman11259]

@@geochonker9052 the same bible that these people are using?

[@zanderbricks8701]

If you make more parts to this, you should include the Orthodox-Catholic Church of America (OCCA), Society of Saint Pius V (SSPV), Aquarian Christine Church Universal, Inc. (ACCU), Assemblies of Yahweh, the Sacred Name Movement, and the Strangite Mormons.

[@pro_loner7017]

Mormons don't qualify as christians though

[@rubemartur8239]

Society of Saint Pius V (SSPV) arent catholic nowadays? i thought Pope JPII or Benedict XVI reverted their excomunication...

[@PunkDogCreations]

Mormons are not Christians.

[@jatar6605]

@@rubemartur8239 I think you're thinking of the SSPX. The SSPV is a splinter group from the SSPX that openly questions whether the Popes since Vatican II are legitimate, and they have no plans on reentering communion with either the SSPX or Rome in the near future

[@jatar6605]

@@rubemartur8239 I think you're confusing the SSPV with the SSPX. Pope Francis basically issued an indult that effectively brought the SSPX back into full communion for the laity (at the clergy level it's still a bit iffy to say the least...), but the SSPV, which is a splinter group from the SSPX, openly questions the validity of all Popes after Vatican II and has no plans on reentering communion with Rome

[@RedcoatHistory-gj7xf]

I am a Plymouth brother (open brethren), let me clarify one thing. Most of us celebrate Christmas and Easter, can't speak for all of us but certainly everyone that I have met does. Other than that you where pretty much on the money

[@skogenfjr7035]

He over-attributed the creation of dispensationalism and the rapture to Darby, and I disagree with the characterization of not having a pastor as a "radical interpretation of Sola Scriptura" - but the rejection of holidays definitely caught me off guard; never heard of any Plymouth Brethren congregation rejecting Christmas and Easter

[@RichoBCV]

Yep, spent first 30 years in the Open Brethren. We celebrated Easter and Christmas, and sometimes with local Baptist and Church of Christ churches.

[@thebowshot9341]

I'm an 'exclusive' (not that we call ourselves that), and I wouldn't say we necessarily celebrate Christmas and Easter. There's certainly no change to the meetings on these days, but usually on Christmas Day (or the day before or after if it falls on the Lord's Day) we had the usual Christmas dinner, entertain family and / or brethren, give gifts to the kids. Easter doesn't really get much recognition, but some families will do something for the children. Some brethren with whom I walk in fellowship don't agree with any recognition of Christmas or Easter, but they're very much the minority and it's very much left to individual choice and conscience.

[@jervisman2]

Because the assemblies have left many of the early practices and teachings

[@BNK2006]

This is what Martin Luther started.

[@geordiewishart1683]

You do know that bible believing churches free from Popish superstitions existed before Luther?

[@geochonker9052]

@@geordiewishart1683 Yes, but Luther is the reason for the vast majority of them modern day, and I am thankful for that! Better to have personal relationship with Jesus and salvation by faith alone with the side effect of people being misled in ways other than catholicism than to have just catholicism.

[@epiccrusadr8583]

There is orthodoxy though the original patriarchies are enough

[@IsabellaKathryn]

I’m a (Roman) Catholic and as far as I know the PNCC are in dialogue with the RCC and we can receive sacraments there if there is no Catholic Church (and vice Versa)

[@jatar6605]

Yes, you may! However, indifference must be avoided if you do receive Holy Communion at a PNCC Church. I believe this means remembering that your communion is with the RCC which sees itself as the one true Church, and that you should pray for the PNCC to "come home to Rome" (enter back into full communion with the RCC) when you receive

[@IsabellaKathryn]

@@jatar6605 yes! And you can only receive there if that is literally the only option you have

[@krkenheimer]

@@IsabellaKathryn in those cases you can also receive in the Orthodox Church and SSPX.

[@hotaruishere2133]

1:57 how is it not true that Jesus had a human body but divine mind and soul? Doesn't that help prove the fact He is both God and Man at the same time? I don't believe swedenborgianism whatsoever and think it's disgusting, but I'm confused on why that point was seemingly contested by the creator of this video. Also, ontological humanity of God?? What?? If we're made in God's image, wouldn't He look like us a little bit? Or at least have a human shaped body like us??

[@J4ximus1776]

can anyone tell me the names of the songs played

[@DionysianLovecraftian]

All of these sound very cooky and I am not even Christian or very religious to begin with. They are also very heretical and it makes sense that these denominations aren't popular.

[@KacpiTheBreadLover]

I never head about them. Idk what to finger. (check des.)

[@Nebias498]

Repent of your sins and believe in The Lord Jesus Christ Son of God our Savior, you shall be saved. Unless, you are lost ✝️✝️✝️

[@andrewdurand3181]

if you lose the trinity, you are not christian

[@BrockSamson18]

Restorationism has been a disaster for Christianity

[@elKarlo]

Basically all the Prot movements in the USA have been dumpster fires.

[@brandanimations3790]

And for the rest of the world and souls as a consequence.

[@colbyhunter4622]

I would like to clear something up. There isn't anywhere near 45,000 denominations. This number came from a paper that counted the same denominations as seperate ones based on name. For example the Brentwood Lutheran Church and the Lutheran Church od Antioch were counted as 2 seperate denominations despite being the same denominations. Churches give names based on their region. The real number is closer to 100. Great video tho. I enjoyed it 😊

[@cameronbailey9704]

Yeah those statistics are extremely misleading. I can really see about 10 major traditions that all denominations fall under: Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Anglican, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, Baptist, Pentecostal, Non-denominational (basically baptist with pentecostal influence sometimes).

[@nickmoser7785]

Yeah to be quite honest most of those are sects of protestantism or some heretical version of Christianity like JW's and Mormons. Of course I would even go as far as saying there is only one denomination of Christianity. Of course I'm talking about Orthodoxy. Because they have apostolic succession with little change to Canon unlike the Catholic who have inventions throughout its existence from the filoque to the Masonic false teachings of second Vatican council

[@9box906]

It's correct that the document misleadingly counted denominations incorrectly. However, I would still argue that the number of denominations sits around there, or even higher. This is because of churches adhering to the congregational polity - a system of church governance where each church is effectively its own denomination. Sure, some of these churches group themselves into conferences, but so do entire denominations. I would argue that each of these congregational churches (meaning congregationalists, most Baptists, and all nondenominational, etc) should be counted as their own denominations. This would indeed skyrocket the number, but I argue that it's valid

[@andre0baskin]

A Christian tradition is a group of churches that share a common theology and, to some extent, style of worship. A denomination is an organizational grouping of churches with generally some oversight. For example the ECUSA and ACNA are both in the Anglican tradition, but different denominations. For Baptists and other churches with congregational polity each church being its own denomination makes sense. The SBC and other Baptist conventions are also interesting as they have no oversight of their member churches besides asking them to leave and some Baptist churches are members of multiple conventions.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

I would say likely 5 hundred to a few thousand, remember the huge number in Africa and South America you have never heard of.

[@EzeBall1710]

borg is a heretic

[@markrothwell-eq7sg]

Swedenborgianism does not “mirror” Mormonism. Joseph Smith adopted some Swedenborgian doctrines when he invented his religion.

[@rubemartur8239]

The "denomination" become a thing with the reformation. Catholicism and Ortodoxy doesnt consider themselves as branch, they follow the notion of being the Church of Christ that Himself, being born in front of the apostles, by Jesus naming it using Peter as base of it. That's why both consider themselves as Apostolic, as they have sucession of diaconate, presbiterianship and priesthood since the apostles and the disciples of the apostles, naming the right books/letters/homilies for the "new testment", which didnt had a name "NT" formally for some time, but was be considered the "inspired by God" even before the "canonical list" at IV century, being passed generation to generation, those many papers. From this perspective, you are either within the Church of Christ or you are schismatic or sympatetic with His ideas but dont follow leadership of the sucessors of the apostles. In short, we know them as either Catholic Church ("Universal assembly") or Ortodox Church ("Righteous assembly"), in both scenarios, people outside have "tradition of men" and not "tradition inspired by Holy Spirit" The sucession were happening since the apostles, by the authority Jesus, by the the claim of building His Church, confering the keys of heaven under their actions, where 2 reunites, He will be with them, and their claims can link/close things at earth and it will link/close at heaven (of course, as long that's God's desire, the Holy Spirit will speak throught them when it happens)... its on Matthew 18:1-20. To organize the authority, in which they will have reunions/concils, they firmed Diaconate>Priest/Presbiterians>Bishop/Elders>Patriach (which include the Pope, which is refered as patriach of Rome, there were Patriach of Antioque, of Jerusalem, etc).If a local patriach can deal with heresies in their countries/regions, they dont necessarly need help of Patriarch of Rome/Pope. But sometimes, they requested help from Rome to deal with problems of faith, to fight over many heresies against the tradition and bible itself. The patriarchs reunited over time to time to make the concils, if not, they sent their bishops to represent them. Until the complex political relation being ecloded around 3-4 centuries until 1054, the greek catholics didnt liked the roman catholics much... different language, the Patriach of Rome (Pope) baptized many undeducated pagans to the faith (their view was that the kings had to be very found of filosophy, good manners, able to read and write)... many barbarians were baptized and blessed as kings, this triggered many in the orient... Once a ex-pagan king shout loudly during a mass, as the lecture of gospel quoted Jesus being condemned and punished for us.... "Ah, if i was there with my men, i wouldnt permit this to happen to my lord", while kicking his heavy weapon doing a loudy sound inside the quiet church. This kind of thing made people having preconceptions and biased opinion on people from roman communities... a little prideful worldview from some brothers at orient, as a diverse culture in the first millenium... but that's something we can work nowadays with a talk. Even some humble people enter the church without modesty as they didnt had proper education... its not the same as Political Activist doing disrespect intentionaly. The orient and occident were of Universal faith, katholik. Once the schism happened in 1054, the orient with Constantinople and occident with Rome, was the map of faith. The Catholic apostolic roman church claims that the authority still within the patriach of Rome as always, but the Ortodox church (ortodoxia, "the right way of catholic") claims that patriach of Rome doesnt have authority, despise the requests and external interverences of Rome at orient at many times, they claim every patriarch has own authority in their regions/communities. Also they excuse the "filioque" in the creedas problem to continue with Rome, requesting this as "against the tradition", basically triggered by the the greek vs latin translation of the nicea creed, when Saint Jerome was doing translation... it was a battle of "from whose is the origin the Holy Spirit? what the tradition says from the elders?". -From the greek word, "only source", meant Father. From the latin word, "precedes from Father and Son", meant Father and Son as two sources, instead of "only source". -Ortodox argue, as the first 2 creeds, starting at Nicea's included "only source" then must be it, and we cannot fill Jesus (Son) as other source of Holy Spirit. -Neverthless the Catholic uses the view of tradition, previous to the creed of Nicea, in which some fathers of the church had this view, based on the holy Scriptures, that is, Jesus being same as Father. -Once an apostle asked to see Father... Jesus answer confirmed being same as Father, despite being another person. Also, He promised to send the Holy Spirit, and that Father would send. -At same time, in other passage, the Son blew the Holy Spirit amoung the apostles... Couldnt it be that the Son wouldnt have same Spirit as Father? -Also in other passage, when He was called as "possessed by the spirit of beelzebub" He warned about this grave sin, as it wasnt an offense to the Son of Man, but to His Spirit. This is controvertial, but in both conservatives sides, they infer one as schismatic of other. Many communities outside Rome tried to have conciliation during the Second Millenium, until our days. Out of 47 ortodox communities (at least the major ones), 23 reunite with Rome, not having the obligation to include "filioque" in their creed of faith during their masses, and also they dont need to follow same liturgies to celebrate the masses, being refered as "sui iuris", they dont need to follow "Latin rite of mass". 24 ortodox communities still doesnt want to make union with Catholic Apostolic Roman Church, as they still struggle for recognizing the Patriach of Rome after 1054, also the filioque already quoted.

[@nomnombr]

one of the best comments I've ever read

[@NEplays]

Swedenborg was the first Mormon lmao

[@NEplays]

Edit: I wrote this before I heard him connect the dots

[@Dylan__20244]

No Joseph Smith just stole from Swedenborg

[@danfsteeple]

He made a cult outside of Philadelphia, PA

[@vaudevillian7]

@@danfsteeplehe never went to Philadelphia (or the US) he didn’t found Swedenbordgianism either or have any involvement with running it - the church based on his writings (which were mostly anonymous originally) was started over 20 years after he died

[@dylanmoore9676]

He’s like all historic heresies packed into one.

[@NicholasKohen]

The most detailed and also simple explanations of the obscure denominations, I thought this video was gonna be like those paint explainer videos.

[@lessons_in_tanya]

Paint Explainer is easily one of the worst channels I have ever seen. Every one of his videos' comment sections are flooded with people correcting multiple things he said

[@LozzyBeckett]

02:44 "And there's eternal marriage in the afterlife" Bro how can you be this wrong when you just can read the Gospel to solve these kinds of mistakes: Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God. At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like angels in heaven." Matthew 22:29-30

[@jatar6605]

I’m actually a member of the PNCC under the Union of Scranton. Even though we have historically been out of communion with the RCC, there has been much dialogue since Vatican II. We’re no longer in communion with the Anglican Communion, and are now in limited inter-communion with the RCC, meaning we can receive communion, penance, and anointing of the sick in RCC churches and vice versa. I pray for this schism to end soon, and that we may all be united as one under our great patriarchs again!

[@AbrahamAbraham-sj5fx]

Back to the origin Orthodox Ethiopian

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

The PNCC or the Union of Scranton might be exploring the idea of ties with other Anglican churches. Calvin Robinson was allowed by the Nordic Catholic Church to transfer from the Free Church of England into the Nordic Catholic Church. I'm not sure of the status on these talks though.

[@GregWeidman]

You know, you could start your own personal revival by going to your local Catholic parish and joining yourself.

[@jatar6605]

@matheuscaneta1194 This is a great question. To be honest, I have no clue what the bishops of the PNCC would say to this. At the level of the laity, this also varies from person to person. Some laity consider the PNCC to be sort of like a pseudo Western Orthodox Rite, and would give you an answer about papal infallibility and the Pope that would sound EO. Some would submit to the Pope, but are in the PNCC b/c they're divorced and cannot receive Holy Communion in RCC Churches (I do not believe this is a good reason to not be RC). As for me personally, I'm not sure. I'm a convert from Anglicanism (ACNA/conservative TEC), and Old Catholicism was something I found beautiful when I first joined. However, at my college, there are no Old Catholics, and I've been with a lot of Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Christians. It's made me really confront the question of papal infallibility, and I'm not sure what side I fall on right now. I'm not really in a position to be going through all the documents and really getting into in super deep right now; my PNCC, RCC, and EO spiritual fathers have all recommended that I confront some more serious issues about my scrupulosity first, so I will heed their advice

[@jatar6605]

@@jeffkardosjr.3825 This is true; we've been in some very close talks with the G3 Anglo-Catholic churches. However, intercommunion and/or concelebration would only be possible with conditional ordination since all Anglican orders are currently seen as invalid by the PNCC. If intercommunion were to occur, I believe it would only happen with the conditional ordination of all G3 bishops by PNCC bishops, and then conditional ordination of all current G3 priests by non-Anglican rubrics. If I remember correctly, this was the policy of the ~1930 Bonn Agreement that brought The Episcopal Church and the PNCC into communion. This potential intercommunion is also complicated by the fact that if the PNCC were to enter into communion with the G3, it would likely cost intercommunion with the RCC, and right now, it seems like most clergy are against letting our limited intercommunion agreement go. Calvin Robinson was allowed to transfer between the churches because he was consecrated a deacon by the NCC and not by the Free Church. While the NCC and the Anglo-Catholic churches in the UK share much love, the NCC still does not recognize Anglican orders as valid, and some Anglican priests and bishops come to the NCC for conditional ordination

[@SantaFe19484]

Nice to see somebody reminding us of where the "rapture" beliefs came from.

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

That figure of 45,000 denominations is a vast exaggeration. Its source uses an inaccurate counting method. It re-counts each denomination for each country it exists in. That means groups like the Anglicans are counted around 200 times. It also re-counts all of the Eastern Catholics as separate denominations even though all of them should simply be counted as Catholic as they themselves do not identify as separate denominations.

[@DoppelpunktDDD]

Ready to Harvest even explained that once, I don't get why he still repeats this number in this video

[@memeteam2692]

I think it counts every nondenominational church as its own denomination

[@Vic-oi5vr]

Love God - love one another . This is sufficient for gospel salvation.

[@ULTIMAgLasite]

Some would disagree but i do agree with you

[@creeperking0017]

> he had a divine revelation in a dream where he saw ... >me, hmm this sounds like the devil further attempting to split Christianity into even more "true" churches, and further dilute the teachings of Christianity > ... *pure heresy ensues" >ah yep thats about what i thought

[@theethanatorem]

Paul set the precedent

[@FalloutBob33]

Sounded pretty nice to me, hell not lasting forever. Heresy sounds pretty cool.

[@creeperking0017]

@@FalloutBob33 thats the point, heresy sounds good, thats why its popular.

[@Ggdivhjkjl]

Ready to Harvest is a quality objective channel. He is certainly worth watching. But probably unbeknownst to him, Redeemed Zoomer regularly makes inaccurate statements. I've decided to avoid his channel because almost every video contains misinformation.

[@andre0baskin]

Redeemed Zoomer has the tendency to state his opinion as fact. He has been getting better about this in his videos, but it's still a bit of a problem.

[@reimasashi]

Ofc redeemed zoomer is kinda bias since hes a Presbyterian. He kinda make his opinion as fact

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Redeemed Zoomer's church map is confusing.

[@acekoala457]

​@@reimasashi He was predestined to state his opinion as fact

[@flemmingrosenvold5417]

I am Swedenborgian.

[@thelonelysponge5029]

Why?

[@geochonker9052]

Please leave that church. Read the book of Galatians, it talks about the fact that works doesn't affect if you go to Heaven or hell. Swedenborgianism is a false version of Christianity, and you have been deceived by it.

[@ULTIMAgLasite]

​@@thelonelysponge5029 why not? Let people belive what they like.

[@Deagle-lj7tv]

I remember seeing a new apostolic churcg here in Australia and thinking what in the wolrd is that? Thabks for explaining, looks like I cane across a rare church bu accident

[@a.i.l1074]

What if we started a church based on the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth

[@thelonelysponge5029]

That’s called the Catholic Church

[@rubemartur8239]

He said to do His memory of sacrifice during the last supper. People stopped doing His worship during the memory after the reformation, then many others quit the sacrifice terms, then the "supper" was forgot in many churches, even with the apostles doing it every First day of week, even with historical entries having christians having this memory of Lord's death, which was asked "until His next coming". I dont think the Holy Spirit inspired man to forget and abbandon it, after more than thousand years of doing it. God at least would send people a LOT SOONER to correct it. why so late? also why quitting this special worship way to Jesus? Its strange. Despise being an order of Jesus in the gospels, also same teaching of Paul from I corinthians 11:18-34. That's why an evnagelical never understand why catholics bishops forbid pagans and public catholic sinners from receiving the comunion of the fractioned bread. Would be their condemnation, as they dont have recognition and repetance for proper reverence to Jesus Christ,

[@geordiewishart1683]

Sponge lol. No, the poser asked about a church based on the teachings of Jesus. Catholic church is based on the paganism of mystery Babylon

[@geordiewishart1683]

There only one passage in the New Testament that refers to the early Church breaking bread on the first day of the week (Acts 20:7), but a closer examination of the context reveals that it actually refers to Saturday night after the Sabbath had finished at sunset. Furthermore, breaking bread simply meant sharing a normal meal, the phrase coming from the observation that a meal officially began when someone had broken off a piece of bread. Many Bible commentators incorrectly insist that breaking bread specifically implied a communion ceremony and that Acts 20:7 proves that the Church met every Sunday to take communion. While there is a yearly ritual of partaking of wine with unleavened bread, which is symbolically broken, this practice was never called "breaking bread" and was only done once each year on Passover to commemorate the date of Jesus Christ's suffering and death . The New Testament consistently records the early Church meeting on the seventh day of the week, Saturday, and observing the Sabbath in fulfillment of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:8-11). Acts 20:7 says, "On the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul, ready to depart the next day, spoke to them and continued his message until midnight." This is the only reference to the early Church meeting on "the first day of the week," but the Greek phrase, literally translated, is "one of the Sabbaths." The word translated "week" is sabbaton - a Greek transliteration of the plural Hebrew word for Sabbaths. The usual custom of the Church was to meet for worship every Sabbath (Acts 13:14, Acts 13:44, Acts 16:13, Acts 17:2, Acts 18:4), not Sunday. Notice also that in Acts 20:7 there is no elaboration on the practice of breaking bread and no indication that it was any kind of formal service or communion. It is mentioned only casually in passing, and not revered as something particularly important, such as a holy act of worship. The same sense is conveyed in Acts 2:42-46, which says that the Church "continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in the breaking of bread . . . continuing daily with one accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they ate their food with gladness and simplicity of heart". In Acts 27:33-35, Paul "broke bread" with his Roman captors, who were not even Christians, further showing that to break bread was not a uniquely Christian expression or a specific religious practice. We conclude that Acts 20:7 describes an occasion when the early Church came together on a Saturday, the Sabbath, which was their usual day of worship. During their fellowship, they shared a meal, colloquially known as breaking bread. Paul continued speaking with them long into the night after the Sabbath ended at sunset because he was about to leave the next day and wanted to make the most of his time with them.

[@a.i.l1074]

Breaking news: 600 years of theological controversy in the western church solved in the KZbin comments

[@ricardoguzman5014]

Plymouth Brethren's teachings are very doctrinally accurate. Their interpretations are not "radical" as you say. Most Christians are sola scriptura, and Christians around the world don't celebrate certain holidays. But they may be seen as too strict or legalistic in today's world of lukewarm Christianity.

[@iamdigory]

Swedenborg is not Christian in any sense

[@geochonker9052]

Its more heretical than mormonism somehow

[@dvinb]

Schwenkfeldians still exist?! Wow, I had thought they disappeared not long after the Thirty Years War, but apparently they emigrated to Pennsylvania during the 1730s. And I‘m from Zurich, Switzerland, so I‘ve actually driven past the headquarters of the New Apostolic Church before, but never really noticed. Now that I think about it, there quite a lot of New Apostolic church buildings in Switzerland, 132 to be exact. Even in my town of 18‘000 inhabitants there’s one, but it must just be elderly people attending these churches, cuz I‘ve never actually met someone who I know to be a member of the New Apostolic Church.

[@LukesAmateurHour]

As a member of the Schwenkfelder church a few minutes from my house, I can confirm that yes, we do exist. :)

[@seand.g423]

I'm sorry, but as a Statesider, that headquarters just straight up looks like a McDonald's over here these days.

[@yourneighbour3309]

only Eastern Orthodoxy.☦️ but cool video

[@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136]

Real

[@benny4162]

Please lower the volume on the music in the next video. It's the same volume as your voice and is distracting and harder to understand.

[@ULTIMAgLasite]

Not really

[@skogenfjr7035]

Plymouth Brethren (open) congregant here. I just wanted to make a few comments on the PB section of the video. Firstly, John Nelson Darby didn't invent dispensationalism or the rapture; he was very influential in the dissemination of dispensationalism and arguably in it's codification. Secondly, we celebrate holidays - closest we've come to disavowing a holiday in my congregation was one speaker annoyed that we were hosting a board game night on New Years Eve. Thirdly, "radical" might ironically be a tad radical a term for our teachings on Sola Scriptura.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

I wonder if he described how your denomination looked when I began, and it has changed over time.

[@SouICoffin]

Sola scriptora isn't radical,lots of denominations believe it, Calvinists do, I don't know what this guy was on.

[@skogenfjr7035]

@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Given that it's a denomination of autonomous churches, I'm sure somewhere there's one like he described - likely a gospel hall (closed PB). In any case, not representative of the denomination at large

[@skogenfjr7035]

@@SouICoffin well, he was saying that our taking of Sola Scriptura to the extent of not recognizing the authority of a priest, pastor, etc. is the radical part. We still have elders and people give sermons and such - just not the office of pastor.

[@thebowshot9341]

@@skogenfjr7035 I'm on the 'closed' side - I reckon there are fellowships like that. I don't know of any personally, and mine certainly isn't dogmatic about it.

[@Holy-Heretic]

Noice. Love how we're making videos about denominations a whole genre 😂

[@Isaiahwrestling]

Whats up man i love your videos

[@Holy-Heretic]

@@Isaiahwrestling Not much, you?

[@Isaiahwrestling]

@@Holy-Heretic not much just got out of church

[@Holy-Heretic]

Good man​@@Isaiahwrestling

[@Isaiahwrestling]

@@Holy-Heretic thanks man

[@Shivom.Parihar]

Very good work! Subscribed and happy to find your channel.

[@frederickanderson1860]

0:46 you make it so black and white,its about human diversity and culture influences. We all can't think same or react same, unless you in a cult or a robotic person, people can change their views depending on their unknown futures. So just don't go the Roman Catholic route that their church are the correct one.

[@Theophoruz]

The first portion of this comment is so random and unrelated to what the video's about. While I am not Roman Catholic, I will use their framework and say that correctness is by nature exclusive. That means it doesn't matter the diversity or cultural differences. It does not change the fact that something is true. With that definition of correctness, the case in which the Roman Catholic Church is proven the factual one true Church. It is the one true Church. (Though I personally think it's the Eastern Orthodox Church)

[@frederickanderson1860]

@@Theophoruz we live on earth we not so heavenly minded we become no earthly good people.

[@Theophoruz]

@@frederickanderson1860 That's also really unrelated. What are you talking about?

[@djpodesta]

@@TheophoruzOr maybe it could be _none of the above._ If something is proven, then what is the point of _faith_ ? Unfortunately all _proof_ is just an interpretation of past people’s _say so._ Do we really know everything that transpired during the Messianic era; from about 200BC to 100AD and up to the 5th century when the Church was _fully_ legitimised by the Emperor of a fracturing Empire? The more that I read the 4 Gospels, the more I see Jesus as being a Protestant (to use our terminology) against the established religion of his day.

[@vipershark4738]

What is the Gospel? The true Gospel is Jesus Christ died for your sins, was buried and rose again. Believe in the lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.

[@ordinarycrab_2257]

No Hutterites?

[@coolvideo1017]

I might talk about them in my next Obscure Denominations video, along with other Anabaptist groups like the Schwarzenau Brethren and River Brethren.

[@philipcollins90]

@@coolvideo1017I am a Quaker would you kindly include us in your next video if you make a part 2

[@Baraodojaguary]

What about the sedevacantist heresy?

[@ordinarycrab_2257]

@@coolvideo1017 yeah def do a part 2 there are many more, especially all of the extinct denominations like the Cathar's or the Paulicans

[@IndianaJonesTDH]

​@@philipcollins90 a very site to hear, how is quaker the church

[@AndrewRusherLDS]

Eternal progression is the idea that humans have unlimited potential to increase in happiness and glory with exaltation being the end goal.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

I attend the Polish National Catholic Church on occasion. Both before 2008 and after.

[@servantEG]

Swedenborg must have tried to include as many heresies in his teachings as possible.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

You mispelled Catholic in Catholic apostolic church, you have it as "Cathoic". Otherwise, great video, informative.

[@Craspic]

And misspelled "separate" two different ways. But yes, pretty interesting! I have a friend from Argentina who identifies as New Apostolic, so I was glad to learn a tiny bit about his denomination.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

@@Craspic Are the Apostolic big in Argentina? I have never met them in the UK, but I spoke to one of Jehovah's Witnesses who said they had encountered members of the the Apostolic church in both the UK and Nigeria. Naturally, the two denominations are very different, The apostolics not sharing Jehovah's Witnesses aversion to warfare, violence and politics.

[@Craspic]

@@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts I have no idea how big they are in Argentina, but I know he sang in the choir in his church near Buenos Aires before he moved to Pennsylvania.

[@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts]

@@Craspic When you say choir, are we talking high church, robes and little boys singing angelus, or jazz hands gospel?

[@vitalykartavykh1003]

Actually Swedenborg was right in many points.

[@zsombortelek8411]

What's the music used after 4:00 at the Remonstrants? Het Wilhelmus?

[@0311catholic]

Irvingism is not part of the Holy roman catholic church

[@Saratogan]

As a member of the Plymouth Brethren, thank you for calling us obscure. 😀

[@geordiewishart1683]

I was raised Brethren in Northern Ireland but have come to question many of their beliefs. Too much paganism of Catholicism still lingers

[@Saratogan]

@@geordiewishart1683 what?

[@thebowshot9341]

Haha... obscurity is good, for sure! When the world notices us, we know we're in trouble. 😅

[@thebowshot9341]

@@geordiewishart1683 That's interesting, I've never heard that said before. As one of the 'brethren' myself, would you mind giving me some examples?

[@TCZ17090]

That’s a funny way of saying heretics

[@pro_loner7017]

Fr

[@geochonker9052]

lol

[@SeanWinters]

Only some of em.

[@pro_loner7017]

@@SeanWinters all of them

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

Why?

[@memeteam2692]

I wouldn't call the Remonstrants obscure. They caused a reckoning in the Dutch Reformed church that became the basis for the TULIP model of summarizing Calvinism

[@benjamindechazal4875]

Swedenborgian here. Joseph Smith likely stole some aspects of Mormonism from Swedenborg, such as the idea of three levels of heaven. However, besides some less important details, we are very different from Mormons. The Swedenborgian trinity of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in the person of Jesus Christ is entirely consistent with the Bible. Consider what your definition of cult is before you lob the insult.

[@xophermc]

Henry Drummond founded Catholic Apostolic church. Irving was merely a pastor in the church . Even though his preaching setup the prerequisite for the movement

[@ULTIMAgLasite]

Very good video

[@alexpop854]

Orthodox Christian

[@KateGladstone]

There was at least one famous Sandemanian - Michael Faraday, the scientist who (among other things) invented the word “scientist.”

[@thedarkside314]

Union of Scranton seems hella badass and based.

[@BoliceOccifer]

heretical, fine, heretical, heretical, heretical, not enough info to make a determination, seems pretty decent actually, heretical, heretical, fine

[@combeferredesseventies1848]

Is Arrival the soundtrack for Swedenborg? 😊😊

[@drewdaddyproductions]

What is the hymn that starts playing at 4:43? I know the tune but can’t remember the words, thank you

[@mjgtmkme123salternate]

The German National Anthem.

[@GregWeidman]

Spelling: Catholic 7:50

[@ChipWoosley]

I like how you put the German natonal amthem in it and your pfp

[@johnshelton1141]

The tune wad the basis for a church hymn by Franz Joseph Heyden.

[@tomdouge6618]

Only Christianity has denominations in the way we understand the term in the Western world. Each seems to be an affront to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit should be bringing people together into the greater Church. No, the Catholic Church is not THE Church. It would have to renounce the true crucifiers of Jesus In 63 BC, Rome killed hundreds of thousands of those in Jerusalem. They crucified most of the Sanhedrin, where they suffered for days in front of their families and their community. They are the one who appointed the High Priests of the Temple. In 37 BC, the Romans made Herod the Great the King of Judea. In 4 BC, they lined the main road of Galilee with the rebels who attacked the armory at Sepphoris, the capitol of Galilee, 4 miles from Nazareth where they hung until they rotted as a warning. Pontius Pilate was the worst governor of Judea. Rome recognized that and recalled him. At the time zealot rebels was terrorizing over the Holy Lands, many claiming to be the Anointed King that would free Israel from foreign rule. The Jewish officials chose Barabbas over Jesus because only Jesus was reputed to be the "King of the Jews". Why? They were afraid of what became fact in 70 AD. Crucifixion is never mentioned in the Old Testament. It is entirely a non-Biblical death sentence and entirely outside of approved ways of sacrificing in the Temple Interestingly, Pope Clement of Rome (35 AD - 99 AD) was related to a Roman emperor

[@geochonker9052]

Are you saying Jesus wasn't crucified? I'm a little confused on what you were trying to get at with the sentence about crucifixion.

[@tomdouge6618]

​@@geochonker9052 You totally misunderstand me. My comment was about how denominations - something rather foreign to non-Christian religions - go against the uniting power of the Holy Spirit. And I was pointing out why Jews are not ultimately responsible for the crucifixion of Jesus. The Romans had killed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of them before hand and the same after Jesus in 70 AD. Ask yourself, what happened to all that opposed the State Church. Before then, for all the evil they did, they did tolerate different religions. Christians had to rely on the power of the Holy Spirit to reach people. Calling others heretics changed all of that and it became about legality, something for church lawyers and state 'police'

[@geochonker9052]

@@tomdouge6618 I see what you mean and mostly agree, I was just confused on what you had said about crucifixion. I do want to say though, some "denominations" should be called heretical if they deny the trinity or punishment in hell. Those are core elements of the gospel. Also the Jews did have a part in Jesus' crucifixion. If you read the gospels you find that Pilate didn't care if Jesus lived or died when he realized what Jesus really meant by calling himself the king of the Jews, not a conqueror or revolutionary, but a spiritual leader who posed no threat to the Roman Empire. Pilate went with the Roman tradition of releasing one prisoner from being crucified according to the will of the people, and the people, Jews, by mob rule, decided to release Barabas instead of Jesus. Other than that I mostly agree with what you are saying, but I do think denominations can exist without dividing us. I know churches of different denominations that frequently work together, despite having different theology.

[@tomdouge6618]

@@geochonker9052 I have heard from scholars that the Romans did not have a tradition of releasing prisoners. The reason Pontius Pilate may have offered a choice between Jesus and Barabus was because he was already in trouble with the empire (he was recalled). The Jews had every reason to see it as one of his underhanded ploys. For decades there were countless zealots/rebels and false messiahs throughout the Holy Land, anybody accused of being a King of the Jews - even those who did not advocate violence - was a serious problem for Rome. They wanted to rip up the House of David and that's why, in 37 BC, they made Herod the Great king. They, the Romans. They were ruthless, and had no compunction about crucifying people. The empire expected their puppets and governors TO give a tortuous death hundreds, thousands as a warning. Just read what the Romans did before, during and after the 70 AD fall of Jerusalem. The Jews had every reason to suspect the Romans were waiting for the right excuse to do just what they ended up doing

[@cosmic_order]

If they deny basic creedal doctrines, they aren't "branches" of christianity.

[@rubemartur8239]

which basic creedal doctrines you infer? with or without filioque?

[@cosmic_order]

@@rubemartur8239 The filioque was a matter of conscience prior to the schism and should have remained that way.

[@acekoala457]

​@@cosmic_order Prior to the Schism it was Anathematized by Pope Nicholas.

[@Zack-f6p]

🇻🇦🫡

[@BasileosHerodou]

Christos? Yawn

[@alisongroen7691]

Swedenborg Iranian sounds a lot like mormonism

[@geochonker9052]

So swedenborgianism is a cult, not a denomination of Christianity.

[@jamesmartello1]

Those are all Sects or Cults, not denominations or churches.

[@Benny-zx6bi]

The truth is that the first and the ones that followed in this video are heresy’s and are not biblical.

[@jeffkardosjr.3825]

How so?

[@mememagician97]

happy pride-month for you too

[@MassachusettsTrainVideos1136]

Happy white boy summer

[@DavidelCientificoLoco]

It's the month of the Sacred heart of Jesus Christ