Tent Living Year Round: Getting Started

[@cheryladam8137]

We did not want to rent anymore and had very little money. When we first moved into the tent, we had spent every penny we had in our bank account and were so broke we couldn't afford the stovepipe to finish hooking up the woodstove. We had to wait two weeks for my next paycheck...and it was COLD! But all the hardships were was worth it for the freedom.

[@melrichardson2392]

I know it's a lot of work but freedom is everything,just blissfull.

[@ManLand]

I am very impressed with your courage and thank you for this brave new life. Gives me encouragement to try this as a real alternative to living a simpler life.

[@cocomochalatte5937]

Thank you so much for the information you provided. It was just what I needed, straight to the point and no gimmicky stuff. I will be venturing into this type of living and so I have watched so many videos on tents, but I found yours to be the most informative without you even 'saying' a word lol. You have a new subscriber!

[@user-ql2id3ml3i]

please make more of these kinds of videos very informative!!

[@Waiting_To_Retire]

New subscriber after watching this video. I'm new to tenting. I came across a great deal on a Northwest Territory 14' X 14' 8 person tent clearanced to $50 at my job where it had been in a loft for a few years, forgotten and uninventoried. I just stay weekends about 1/4 mile behind my aunt's farm with my girlfriend, while we accumulate more necessities and luxuries on sale. I'm buying a small, used kero heater this next trip. The tent is vented all over the place, so I don't think a small kero heater will cause any monoxide issues. I have a huge marine battery and inverter and a 50 watt solar panel to power some devices and a monoxide detector as well (safety first). Can't wait for the first snow. :)

[@sf67976]

Great post, I can say that I am a little envious of your lifestyle. Thank you for the advice.

[@cdeans1]

I've been looking for this for a long time. My husband and I will be retiring in about a year and a half and will be living 6 months at a cabin in PA that my family has owned forever and 6 months nomading in a 16x16 foot camping yurt that collapses like a tent and will be pulled by our 50 MPG 2001 diesel Jetta on a small utility trailer. So many folks think of retiring to an RV, but I've loved yurts and tents since I was a little girl and RV's are such a waste of our resources....so....yurt it is. We won't be wintering in the cold, at least that's the plan for now, but I was truly inspired by your setup for cold weather and your living arrangements in general. Oh, yes....and we'll have our cat. Take care. I really enjoyed your wonderful video.

[@johnevon1]

I love the tent, awesome framework idea, your tent looks like a great place for some massive thermal mass rocket heating. two thumbs up

[@yurtiestv3494]

I wonder if Dave and Cheryl are still living in their tent? We, as a family, have been living for almost 4 years in a self-made canvas yurt in Northern Europe and can not imagine otherwise anymore. Allways good to see others doing the same!

[@cheryladam8137]

re: snow on roof....The six steel tube rafters supported up to 8 inches of wet snow without any problem other than major sagging of the roof between rafters. But usually, we tried to keep the snow from piling up too much....which it does, heat from woodstove notwithstanding. For light snow up to a few inches, you could just stay inside and thump the "ceiling" with a broom or your hand and it would be displaced. For heavier snow, a roof rake is a great tool! We made our own out of a left over length of steel tube and an old push broom

[@RevKitKat]

who made your tent. How long do you think it would last with a steel roof?

[@Meredith848art]

maybe screw furring strips to the steel pipes, then screw the metal roofing into that. Put down foam boards and tape the seams first and you will really have started something. Next would be foam and steel the walls, add quality windows and doors, then,you will have a a low cost insulated structure, that would last a thousand years if kept painted.

[@cheryladam8137]

I love teepees! I lived in one years ago for four months - the summer and early autumn. Mine was canvas with bamboo poles. The only problem with it is getting hang of the smoke flaps. Once when I was visiting friends for the day, I came back after a rainstorm to discover the inside soaked because I'd left the smoke flaps in a position that actually funneled the rain in! LOL!

[@GEAUXFRUGAL]

Look into methane digestors. I don't think they will work in the cold but when warm they do quite well. I have heard of people even getting water from methane digestors hot enough to shower in. They put a coil in a compost and when done right the compost will produce heat a coil in that will heat water.

[@KnockelII]

Fine presentation, thanks a lot.

[@39Thorns]

I wonder what it would have cost to make a floor and half walls from (salvaged? )structural insulated panels. I would want that.

[@cheryladam8137]

For yearround living, being right on the ground is warmer, as the ground under the tent stays warm and is trapped directly below the tent floor. The floor never tore, as we had a straw layer, the tarp layers, and then an indoor-outdoor rug. Even when subzero, the floor still never felt icy to the feet - much less so than a wooden floor in a house heated by a woodstove. The other problem with pallets (which we had considered at one point) is that it makes cozy habitat for snakes and rodents

[@valeriecampbell6870]

Thank you for the advice, but this is the way we have lived for years on an Island in the Norton Sound close to Nome. I have cat and use up the hay by spring for the chickens and pig bedding etc... This year I have also built a Mass Rocket stove in the main tent. We do have out fire stoves vented and we have put "real" window framed in the ends of the tents which are left uncover otherwise. But everything you pointed out are things we and other must work on. Anything over 68 we are uncomfortable warm. 65 is my living temp, so when there is a fire the windows are cracked open. So thanks for the chats and the warnings I will pay better attention this year to those things.

[@cheryladam8137]

Really glad to hear you have windows and some venting.I was worried about you! I'd love to see some pix of your camp some time. It sounds like you are really making a stand for self-sufficience - it's great you even have your own livestock! My brother in law is Inuit and grew up in Quinhagak. He says a major problem there was respiratory problems among the villagers due to poor ventilation with gas and oil heaters. So I know that heat-related fumes, etc. are a problem in that climate. I agree that 68 is REALLY warm!

[@valeriecampbell6870]

I live in a wall tent in Alaska, I added Perfection Oil heaters and didn't have too much problem with the Cold at -35 with 35mph winds making wind chill -57. Will be 2 more years before my house is built. Oh, I am a single 58 year old woman.

[@cheryladam8137]

Wow - That's amazing! I have to admit, I sure wouldn't want to tent yearround in Alaska - although you are getting a bit of a break this winter with better weather in many areas than down in the lower 48! (My sister and her husband live in Alaska.) You must have to use several heaters and a lot of oil! At 18 below with no wind, the highest temps we could get with a fairly large woodstove pumping full tilt constantly was 45, if you were more than 6 feet from the stove. (sitting right next to the stove watching the fire was quite cozy, though!) I would be too concerned about fumes and the ongoing storage and handling of oil to use either gas or oil heaters in such a small space as our only heat. Be careful! The very best of luck to you in your endeavors!

[@cheryladam8137]

You really need to go by each town. We found a tiny town (pop 600 or so) where the attitude was fiercely "live and let live." They were fine with a tent...we had mail and UPS deliveries there, dirt road and all!! By contrast, several towns we checked out had time limits on "temporary structures" for living. Call the town clerks in all the candidate towns...it helps if you say you are planning on building later.....even if you know its WAY later!

[@fredstmoritz]

Far out , Thanks for the upload loved it

[@sandi91361]

THANK YOU - very helpful!

[@effdeedaw]

That is really cool! I have often dreamt of doing the same thing, removing myself from the rat race of modern society, and just living off the land with no bills to pay to the man. Great video.

[@eenlaatstekans]

Thank you for all that good sound advice! Have you considered wooden pallets or floors as part of the underfloors (tarp - wooden floor - tarp - rug) ?? Also to give the floor a bit more stabillity? We uused pallets and wooden floors with rugs under tents for Occupy...

[@THETalesFromTheAbyss]

I have always wanted to buy land and live in a cabin. A tent seems cheaper to set up, and more cozier. Winter is a worry for me though as i live in maine

[@melovett61]

Amazing you did that in Maine! I am assuming because of the warm roof, that snow just sloughed off? You mainly had to dig away the acumilation around the perimeter walls?

[@michaelmott3083]

I have a friend who shelters the homeless in a town where winter can feature a couple a few feet of snow and temperatures into the teens below zero. By regulation, they must be housed in tents. My friend is having trouble finding a tent good enough to last a year in this climate. Could you give her some advice?

[@roberharpane3524]

I just happened to stumble across this video & I'm almost envious of this style of living with the option of getting away from the home owner association types that put the capital "A" in 'A'uthoritative & also in 'A'sinine here where I live. Not trying to be intrusive but if I may: To any of you considering this style of living, I'd offer one suggestion. You could easily rig a standard indoor toilet with plumbing fixtures inside with maybe a day's work adding a cistern catching all that valuable rainfall/snow. Something waterproof set up on high stilts outside with a central pipe leading back indoors would supply a toilet & potable water for drinking as well if rationed wisely. If positioned properly, a tee off your stovepipe leading underneath the cistern would/should be enough to melt the snow. Yes, it would have to be very sturdy & braced properly to support a lot of weight. A simple plumbing drain out the base of your toilet to a 55 gallon drum in the ground outside with just a small amount of field drain leading away dispersing the liquids would suffice as a septic tank. The toilet could simply be set up on a wooden pallet with a hole cut through the bottom with a flange, wax seal & drainage elbow (w/pipe of course) leading toward the drum to divert the waste products. One question if you're still around Cheryl, didn't a lot of rainfall during heavy downpours make it's way inside with the allowed slack you folks left around your stovepipe? If so & if anyone is going to follow this route, it might be a help to fashion a channel type rain diverter around your stovepipe to at least divert the heavy rain on your rooftop. You could probably secure it with nothing more than duct tape. Sorry if I seemed to be highjacking the comments, it's just the contractor coming out of me making a quick assessment of a few add-ons. I really like all of your other suggestions,, I learned something myself. Take care,, best of luck!

[@cheryladam8137]

To the Armchair General: Your suggestions are interesting, but way too elaborate for the average person, not to mention that I doubt if they would be an improvement or, in some cases, not work. First of all, with a properly constructed privy pit, which is what we had, wastes biodegrade into the soil, and are turned into clean soil. What happens when: your 55 gallon tank fills? Call rotor rooter? 2. Why would I want to waste rain water flushing my toilet, when I can use it (with a few drops of bleach per gallon) as clearning water? The whole point of this life style is to get away from the conventional overly elaporate rigging of modern living, not mimic it. 3) in summer, you remove the stovepipe, close the stove pipe flap and put a silver tarp (reflects sun) over the winter tarp, so rain is not an issue. (not to mention that anything done with duct tape exposed to rain is NOT a good idea). In winter, the upward convection of hot air from stove somehow prevents snow from entering the smoke hole, while allowing valuable oxygen (which is sucked from the air by the burning wood the stove) to circulate through. 4) A Tee off the stove pipe is a great way to insure fire-causing creosote buildup and screwed up draw through the chimney. So, I would say that while these ideas may work well mentally, they are not practical or even desirable for a simple tent living arrangement. The secret to tent living is getting into a system, which involves regular hauling of water and emptying of camp toilet, carrying wood, shoveling, etc. But once the system is in place, it not only feels easy, it is good for you - we both lost nearly 20 pounds the first year and have never been in better shape.

[@roberharpane3524]

Cheryl Adam Terribly sorry, wasn't trying to steal your thunder. Just because one chooses to live off grid doesn't necessarily mean the living experience has to be totally rudimentary. I merely offered these suggestions as "add-ons" if a person or family maintains off grid living on a permanent basis. You didn't really mention your potable water supply so seeing all that high quality snowfall not being utilized simply made me reflect on the sustainable system Bahamians rely on with a cistern system. The septic system I proposed is merely a scaled down version of a normal system relying on a bacterial field which disposes of waste solids & again, would only be something to consider for a more convenient but cost effective means of not hauling your waste products 100' away. Although I'm not entirely sure how much heat would be dispersed from an alternate stovepipe, believe me, there is nothing wrong tee'ing off your primary stack if done properly. In my many years of building experience, we've erected many chimneys with double flue systems & they work without a hitch. My suggesting of a diverter above your stovepipe is makeshift all the way & the duct tape idea came from my mistake of taping a tarp over the convertible (canvas) top of my Porsche for safe keeping & it not only held, it bonded so well I thought I'd never get it off! Didn't some of that snow leak through your hole during warmer days? Again, sorry if I came on too strong but these were mere options to fully utilize the environment around you in a sustainable & inexpensive fashion. They're truly not expensive ideas & most can be fashioned out of scrap materials. I do have a tendency to get carried away with my opinions & sound as though I'm highjacking the conversation. Life is hard being an armchair general. Many thanks for the great video!

[@qonitabadegestm]

Lay people like me can't keep up with what you're saying man :(. And those who can already know this stuff I'm sure. Ever thought about making a channel? Maybe start by basic vocabulary lol

[@astonesthrow]

I've been saying this forever... SOO easy to put plumbing in

[@valeriecampbell6870]

I have an insulated wood floor and insulated roof. I have a 2x6x16 mounted over the tent roof, I rolled out insulation on the tent roof before I added the waterproof tarp, I build a rail about 4 ft high along each side of the tent attached to the floor. These rails are what the tent roof and tarp are attached to. I then laid bails of hay 5 ft high to reach the bottom of the tarp. I stay very warm and have kerosene back up just in case.

[@cheryladam8137]

It sounds like you put a lot of thought and effort into preparing your site. However, both for your sake and that of other readers here, I have to point out a few critically important things. First, and foremost, safety. You are using fuels that have toxic fumes, however minimal (oil and kerosene - even the purest oil has some VOCs and other compounds) in a space that has very little ventilation. With no woodstove vent, hay bales stacked to the eaves and the heavy layer of insulation on your roof, you have very little air exchange in a small area, especially at night when you are sleeping and the heaters are running hardest. It may be very warm, but it is not healthy. It may not kill you, but it could make you sick, not just in the short term, but the long-term. Also, with the layer of insulation under the rainfly, the snow accumulates more quickly and thickly on the roof than on a normal tent roof, which tends to continuously melt snow. So you must be super vigilant - all night on storm nights, especially, going out and knocking off snow. Then there is the problem of the canvas tent itself not "breathing," which it needs to do unless you want to replace it every other year or less....even mildew-proofing doesn't help in spots where the canvas never dries out. :Last but not least, any place there is exposed straw, there will be rodents. We were very careful about sealing our straw layer on the floor between two heavy vinyl tarps, but any little opening around the edges still attracted mice, voles, and snakes. They LOVE straw. We had a cat, which helped. I feel very deeply for you in your courageous efforts to have a home. It is NOT easy!! I know you will succeed because it is clear you are determined. But I would hate to have you become ill or unable to replace a rotted or rodent-chewed tent.

[@AMilitantAgnostic]

Cheryl Adam Really great advice Cheryl - that stuff is priceless. You just helped change my plans. TYVM

[@danzak44]

Do you guys now live in a house on the property? Did you both have jobs you had to go to while living in the tent? Good video and some great ideas of living off grid. Thanks.

[@cheryladam8137]

We sold the property and between the small profit there and the money saved over 2 years in rent, we were able to do an owner-financed purchase of an old farmhouse on two acres. I work at home - I used the computer at a college library 15 miles away to get my work in. Being near a good library is very helpful. Computers, books to read, CDs and books on tape to listen to with our battery-operated boom box. And all for free. My husband is a disabled vet and retired. One of the things that made people think we were crazy is our age - both over 60! Both of us kinda gimpy! So anyone can do it, if they are determined enough!

[@danzak44]

Wow, pretty amazing! We used to use our library quite a lot. But, being truck drivers on the road, it's kind of hard to get the stuff back to them in a timely manner, but I always recommend the local library, they are a wonderful resource.

[@cheryladam8137]

People have really forgotten how great libraries are. It is actually a form of "conservation" too - saves a lot of trees to borrow the books!

[@effdeedaw]

Cheryl Adam Wow, Cheryl! This is simply amazing. I have recently purchased a canvas tent, and my son and I plan to use it for summer camping and hunting trips.We live in Newfoundland, where the weather can be very unpredictable, warm and sunny one day, cold and rainy the next. Nevertheless, we are really looking forward to getting out there. Thanks for the great video.

[@TodaysWord7]

I would love to have this option. I love tent living and have done it for 2 or 3 weeks at a time. I have a portable kitchen, shower tent, propane tanks, gas lights, etc. All the things I need to live in a tent. The problem is I don't have a place I can legally keep a tent 365 days a year. Any suggestions as to where to do this in the western region of NY state would be helpful.

[@eenlaatstekans]

yah that snakes/rodentsproblem is very true too - I guess it is all a matter of trying out what works best; I wondered what type of tent this was or if you made it yourself. WOudl you prefer this kidn of tent over say a (sea)container, constructioncontainer or camper/trailer or so?

[@Mainerbychoice]

Hello I live in Maine also around Wiscassset area and am wondering what condition your tent was in after two years of use? The video was great like it when people live a lifestyle like yours.

[@sallyperkins75]

I wondered the same about if you had to go to jobs and also how did that beautiful kitty like it?

[@cheryladam8137]

We are lucky in that we work for ourselves. My job, which requires some computer time got tricky and involved carefully planned trips to a college computer lab (free to public) about 15 miles away. But once you work out a system, it doesn't feel like a hassle. Out cat Basil is an indoor cat and adapted very well to the tent. He loved being close to all the wildlife sounds and smells while still feeling protected in our "canvas bubble." He spent much of each winter watching the fire in the woodstove and cuddled up in his bed next to it. He was our "stove alarm" at night. Whenever the flames died down, he'd wake us up - not so much because he was cold, as we disscovered, but because he liked the flame show!

[@colins.6170]

wow.....I bet I could get used to that. simple life, that's what I'm talking about. High-speed wi fi and 200 useless cable channels, over rated. Give me a tent, a fire, a bible, and a furry cat.

[@cleangreenasheville8217]

awesome, nice video

[@U.S.SlaveOfficial]

i thought about doing same but decided to live out of car for week or 2 while i build small cabin. ill do a vid on it when it happens.

[@PYE172]

yes I got my tee pee 16ft door to back from German made of 420g cotton . ps love the music as I play piano

[@jasonhunt5367]

Did you make supply runs? If not, what did you feed your cat out there?

[@qonitabadegestm]

If they allowed out, they feed themselves

[@yeahwerepthesamesmartech7113]

camping for some people is just a thing for others its a way of life

[@caseymiller7261]

Man this sounds cool.

[@dixiewife47]

asbestos ? I didnt know that was still permitted to be used as flame resistent material.

[@SquirrelDarling1]

You need to write a book on this!

[@dcrosco1458]

Love the video and love to do this

[@a11an72]

Does the tent start to smell from living in it all the time ? Cooking and so on ..

[@drewbush6535]

Looks like fun

[@michaelabedonie1924]

I bet that is so nice I need to do this

[@PYE172]

ps just seen someone talking abount propane tank all I can say is if it was me then I will have the tanks outside but put them in a deep pit so if they do go off they will blow up in the air away from your tent just an idea

[@sanwages]

I have that exact same type stove that I cook on & heat water with. The small propane bottles seen in this video are expensive, don't last long & are not refillable. (As far as I know, serve no other purposes) I use large, refillable propane bottles. The type that U see on camper trailers. MUCH cheaper.

[@markbriley]

I've been seriously considering doing this as well on some property that I plan on purchasing. I'm just curious - did you have any issues with county ordinances regarding living in a tent year-round? With my luck someone from the county would come out in mid-winter telling me I have to tear it down because my family and myself are living in it as a residence. Did you live in this all year for those 2 years, or just for a limited time during the winters?

[@cheryladam8137]

We lived full time, with no alternative place to go, so it was the real deal. We were totally broke after setting up. We were there Aug 2010 to May 2012, so two full winters. Your question re ordinances is important! We did a lot of research to identify "alternative living friendly" areas. We called town offices, looked up local ordinances, etc. the town manager in New Sharon (pop 500 or so) when asked said "If you want to live in a house made out of twigs its none of our business!" There is much more sympathy these days for people trying to do alternative housing. One thing that helped is that we were really careful to keep the area around the tent tidy and neat, and were quiet, non-partiers. This helps avoid attracting any negative attention. The most common response to the tent from people in the area was positive. Some other people I know who have lived in a tent for years said their solution was to keep the structure out of sight, well from the road. If it is on your own property and you are a good neighbor, most local officials won't care.

[@sallyperkins75]

Cheryl Adam How far from a road were you or from anyone being able to see you, i.e., were you near a hiking path and how did you scout out that beautiful area?

[@jeanettewood9238]

Mark Briley

[@oaklynjesiah704]

Where or what states can I buy land and do this legally?

[@piplongone2250]

i saw a few 16 oz propane cylinders which i assume you used for your stove and other things; i was wondering, is there a safe way to store them and is there a limit as to how many you should keep on hand?

[@randallbair5860]

Have a job but looking to tent

[@sanwages]

Umm, not to split hairs. But what happens if that little green tank explodes? I have used both types of tank. I have had thoes green ones leak. I've neve... (So far) had any problem with the larger, refillable tank. Not saying ether is safer than the other. Although after my own personal experience, I trust the newer refillables more than the green throw aways. But that is ONLY my opinion. Each person must use their own judgment for their situation. I am only speaking from MY experience.

[@JG-jb1wl]

i would only get a generator for tent living for my electronics

[@yeahwerepthesamesmartech7113]

solar power makes more sense for smaller electronics.. never need re fuel just a semi bright day

[@tiagogobbi3610]

Sorry for my comentary but I like your vid man!! My old post it is abaout common English thinking, just this it!! :) :/

[@cheryladam8137]

it is NOT safe to use the 20-pound propane tank at a tent. They have to be outside your structure, and when you are talking a canvas tent, there really is no "wall" between you and a tank if it were to explode. For cooking, the 1-lb tanks were not too bad - about 2 tanks per week and we got them for $2.30 apiece, which, as the cost of safety wasn't that bad. Not worth saving a few bucks a week to take a risk. And there IS a risk.

[@wnstrauss2259]

How did you deal with raccoon problems?

[@qonitabadegestm]

They don't, cat does :)

[@rootsoftheland9040]

Do you ever run into problems like bears, racoons, or snakes trying to get in the tent?

[@qonitabadegestm]

The cat is there

[@rootsoftheland9040]

ah ok. No wild animals though trying to tear down or ransack your digs eh?

[@flowrider5082]

Any bear problems?

[@sallyperkins75]

How did you shower in the winter?

[@cheryladam8137]

We had one of those garden watering sprayers - the kind you pump up manually, and one of those deluxe size plastic storage bins. We heated water, filled the sprayer, and voila! Mini-shower in front of the woodstove! Got just as clean as a regular shower, but use much less water. If you have a YMCA/WCA or even a community pool within reasonable distance, you can donate a few hours of desk time each week in exchange for free showers (I've done that before, too).

[@jeanettewood9238]

Cheryl Adam

[@brandonjones8223]

Who land is that ?

[@themsocialskills]

did you guys have to buy land to do this?

[@cheryladam8137]

We bought two acres that had an old overgrown driveway onto it from years before when someone had a trailer there. We spent the summer clearing a place for the tent and making trails. The cost of the land plus tent, woodstove, lanterns, and other gear was just about $10,000. We combined our savings with a personal loan from the bank (we had no other debt, fortunately, even credit card) to cover it. But we were so broke when we moved in in Sept. that we couldn't even afford the stovepipe to hook the woodstove up until Nov 1, and it was getting COLD!! But I think there are many farmers around who would be delighted to lease a piece of land to tenters (along with access to water) and so have even two or three hundred dollars coming in each month.

[@peterbucellato1480]

What size tent is that?

[@cheryladam8137]

It's a 16 X 20 footer. I think if I could time travel backward I would have bought the 14 X 16. Lower roof peak and just as much living space as really used in winter.

[@AMilitantAgnostic]

Did you have zoning issues? Did you just hide or what?

[@cheryladam8137]

No need to hide. There are still many towns around where you can live in alternative housing, no zoning problem. You just need to patiently research it by calling town clerks, etc. We were quiet folk, kept the place tidy and paid our taxes on time each year. So we never attracted any negative attention, even though our tent in winter was clearly visible from our road. The people most to blame for heavy handed zoning are the drunks and druggies who crash in campers or shacks, fill the yards with junk, have loud parties, fire guns off close to neighbors houses, etc. That's why being a good example is so important.. People in our area told us later they were actually "sorta proud" of "the tent people."

[@AMilitantAgnostic]

I agree the ethics and aesthetics of alternative housing are important. Neighbors should not have to look out their windows at an eyesore or be forced to participate in their neighbors experience in any way. Accommodations must be made for all the stuff we accumulate. Would you do it again? What if your tent was hard floored, 500 sq feet, 100% off grid (except internet) and well insulated? Would you give up the Airstream?

[@AMilitantAgnostic]

***** Thanks for giving us a wonderful example of someone thinking they know what they are talking about without actually having a clue. Anyone that's ever lived in alternative housing lives in fear of some town or county officer coming out and telling you what you can and can't do with your land. Thanks for playing... you have obviously lost the first clue we gave you, stick around though another will be available shortly, and you'll be back in the game.

[@cheryladam8137]

***** The point here is mutual respect and NOT forcing your will on someone else. By blaring music at any hour (even if it is on your own land) or letting a dog bark for yours, the neighbors are forced to listen. Having junk and trash piled high forces an eyesore for everyone, not to mention being a source of contamination that can leach into the ground water, which affects everyone in the area. So it is actually the people with the "Fuck you" attitude that are forcing their will on others. By having that attitude, they are making it hard for alternative homesteaders everywhere, who get lumped in with them. I think alternative people have a bigger responsibility than other people to uphold a high ethical standard. We should be leaders by example, I think. Sure shuts up the critics when they don't have something to bitch about!

[@AMilitantAgnostic]

Christopher Willette wow you seem to have misplaced another clue. Well we tried.

[@buzzardsbass1137]

I think the first thing anyone would encounter is needing to have to do this. I don't think anyone would choose to do this. So, if you can afford to outfit yourself with all the gear and necessities of a HOME then why bother? Second, WHERE is setting up such a huge camp site going to be attainable? Most people who even begin to think of a place they NEED to go won't have the vehicle to haul all that crap.

[@twing21able]

Yeah, Buzzards bass. Seems to me, using common sense was not an issue for these peeps when uploading their vid. I believe they had plenty enough revenue to obtain all the gear, tent, firewood, food, etc..... even the land to live on. Believing the vid is a fallacy is not out of the question for me. Cheers mate

[@tybrady64]

Turn on your sense of adventure man! Maybe they were so deep in nature that it would have been too hard to haul all the materials for a house? Maybe they did it on public lands? (There are no laws about setting up tents in national forests. There are time limits though, but maybe they overstayed.) Or maybe they did it on some property belonging to a friend who liked to have someone looking after the property? Maybe a buddy had a pick up truck and helped them move the stuff? Maybe they could hike into town for supplies? Maybe they bought the wall tent used for a few hundred bucks and they already owned the furniture? Maybe they moved out there to be one with nature for a couple of years and it cost them only the money for the tent, plus their food. Or maybe they own a house already that they rented out for a couple of years, so they actually made money by doing this!?

[@buzzardsbass1137]

LOTS of MAYBEs there pal. The one thing that I will comment on is your statement: "There are no laws about setting up tents in national forests." NO LAWS? You CAN NOT just go into the state forest or national forest or any forest without registering to be there. IF you have NO MONEY in this world you are not allowed to do anything anywhere. TRY being homeless some time. I'm very serious. TRY IT. Try being anywhere on this planet without money in your pocket or a place to stay for an extended period of time. SHIT. Even if you have money you can't get it if you have less than 20 bucks. Imagine. You're down to your last $19.00 and you REALLY NEED IT. You can't go to any ATM and get it unless you have at least $20.00 . . . bad example but you really need to REMOVE YOUR BLINDERS and your fucking maybes.

[@tybrady64]

Buzzards Bass Look up "national forest service dispersed camping". (State parks and national parks do require permits and or money.) One most certainly can camp out in national forests for free without registering. Different National Forests have different amounts of time one can stay (14 to 21 days). After you have reached your maximum stay, some National Forests require you to move a few miles, others require you to stay away for at least a month. There is also BLM land out west where one can live year round for free. Many people do this in Vans or RVs. I hear you on having no money or being homeless, it's certainly nothing to desire and something to avoid.

[@thebest129397]

Ty Brady You are a little punk and its clear you have been kicked around like a little bitch most of your pathetic life.

[@bunnyhug4365]

I was really wanting to live in a tent full time, then I clicked on this video and heard the funeral music playing in the background; the whole idea suddenly became depressing. I think I'll just stick with living in my apartment.

[@iharr123]

Travis M. Couldn't agree more. Utterly depressing. The combination of funeral music and the slow-mo slides is enough to make you slit your wrists.

[@charlesruffing5606]

What should he play? The theme from 8 mile? Pffft! Tards...

[@PYE172]

yes love your video as I do not like the big city lights . I myself will love to try it but with a big tee pee its just me so will only use my 16ft tee pee . when I say tee pee . I am not talking a single poll tee pee like a bell tent but a real tee pee like in the times of the old west . as the way I see it if the wind its it it will roll off it

[@rachel183321]

I'm going to be homeless soon I must bye a tent

[@randallbair5860]

Me and my dog

[@ainzooalgown9451]

I don't mind the prospect of the city do with the fact that you have a cat living there you can't properly support everything that it wants in that tiny little canvas tent I highly it don't like that

[@jeremydryden7362]

this is KZbin! why do people put fucking slide shows on here?