Terence McKenna "I Ching" Interview

The I Ching, usually translated as Book of Changes, is an ancient Chinese divination text and among the oldest of the Chinese classics. Terence McKenna talks about the history and power of the I Ching as a personal tool for getting in alignment with the Tao.
Paul O'Brien interviews Terence McKenna from the Oracle of Changes CD-ROM.

[@wpahp]

Sometimes people ask me how I get so much McKenna content, and how I got this video is a great example, just extrapolate it to 10+ years: So, while reading the transcript of this interview I've noticed that the interviewer Paul O'Brien mentioned that this audio interview used to have a video version but it was only available on the Oracle Of Changes CD-Rom that Brian created in the 90's, the problem, he said, was that the CD would only run on Windows 95 or 90's Macs. So I searched for this CD-Rom on eBay and as fate would have it, found a single copy. While it was shipping I looked up how I could save data from a CD that would only run on those systems, called a few companies, each asking for an orbital price to save the data, so I also started to look for old PC's and Macs. Long story short, the item arrived and it wasn't encrypted or anything, the video files were right there in a folder to be downloaded. That's all, another video archived! Anyway, let's thank Paul O'Brien for the great interview!

[@khushbookantharia2766]

Thanks you for sharing this . Thank you for doing what you are doing. Thanks for making spirits in my room song . It's my favorite.i love it. Thanks again. God bless you ❤️🙏🏽

[@th-pw8pn]

You're a machine, thank you!

[@luchorios5663]

I Appreciate your efforts. Thanks Sir!

[@erikthompson404]

Thank you Paul O’Brien.

[@ethanjohnson3642]

Your doing God's work brother! Without you we wouldn't have a lot of the content we have now. Seriously apperricate the effort you put in.

[@InfamousMedia]

The elf king himself delivering the gospel of the cosmic circus

[@dominikapilis803]

omg✨✨✨💥💥💥

[@jackhammer8061]

Damn, well put dude

[@AV.CGPODCAST]

What is your choosen name and I will from now on quote YOU on that one! - ? 🙌🏾💫😌

[@Blemr84]

@@AV.CGPODCAST TetraGram. first single out on soundcloud after the memorial meltdown @goagil

[@charlesrivera9877]

one of the best comments on all of youtube

[@theinkbrain]

I can never tire of listening to Terrence. Wish he was still in our realm.

[@PrettySure-jq5jn]

Me too. ❇️

[@Idolcruisefix]

Your comment is comment reply bait??? Terrance's life work is sort of about how the dead are in our realm.

[@69VAJRA]

Worst thing he holds monologue instead of dialog with interviewer who are of course not so well read and so the lissner, there is no outside input as they have no experience If you keep him talking he paints the picture with word in details and just spin off, without asking put questions towards interviewer....So thats the western way, just like media nobody comes with questions

[@mattattack2u]

Anyone else low-key pretending material Terence is still here in 2021 on this quasi-Zoom call?

[@banjiegirl2001]

He will never die LONG LIVE THE ELF KING 👑

[@96to98wasthedaddy]

ABSOLUTELY

[@masonart4950]

No. Why?

[@jamesbarrett3958]

Have you seen “Videodrome”? “Long live the new flesh”

[@PsychedelicActualization]

Now I'm really inspired to finally sit down and study the I-Ching 💕🌌

[@greatlakeblake]

it's like a quarantine style podcast

[@michaelrichardson989]

Wow. What a wonderfully eloquent and sincere description of the I Ching.

[@Savitur1]

Great information. Of course Terence was doing Webcam meetings before anyone else😀

[@cowboyjunkie2640]

LITERALLY

[@th-pw8pn]

This an interview I have never seen before. How much is there out there that we haven't seen or heard? I have every book and and tape I could find yet you still manage to find these hidden gems for us! :-D

[@greatlakeblake]

same question here

[@CVYR490]

Another book Tao De Ching by Lao Zhi

[@Dmyra]

fell in love and formed a lifelong relationship with this time less classic 15 years ago. love it. never looked back

[@tiggerknowsbest6817]

The first podcast, of course it was Terence

[@akpost8780]

The puzzle or challenge he refers to near the end is the Labyrinth we all must navigate. Some of us make it halfway, others give up right before breaking through, some of us truly get "there" -- we make it to the center, only to realize the whole thing was a return trip home that we made more complicated than it had to be.

[@antonackermann9620]

When you learn so much that you reach a moment of realization that you already know all this stuff and that you are in fact learning it all for the first time again.

[@FirstMatterCreative]

Yes

[@hawkwardsarah]

I followed synchronicity and found this awesome video today. Recently, I have been diving so deep into learning as much as I can about the I Ching. What a gift to hear Terence speak about it since he is a big inspiration to me. Yesterday I bought 3 more books by William Douglas Horden, who has written many books about the I Ching, including the Toltec I Ching which is my favorite version. Then earlier today I was watching the Antiques Roadshow only because my brother had it on at his house and I spotted a quote from the I Ching for Hexagram 16 which was featured on one of the Woodstock programs which you can Google to read. The quote is so beautiful and strikes the bullseye in my heart. I've been deeply pondering what William Horden writes about in regards to the I Ching as being "A Lifeway of Flower and Song." Thus, it was also a synchronicity to see that an I Ching quote was featured on the Woodstock program which also has flowers on it. I had no clue about this. The way I learned of William Horden and his books was actually through the woman shaman who I have received shamanic healings from. Shamanism saved my life and continues to save my heart and soul during these crazy times. The I Ching is speaking to my soul so deeply. I'm eternally grateful to have discovered its wisdom.

[@augustusbetucius1572]

"I spotted a quote from the I Ching for Hexagram 16 which was featured on one of the Woodstock programs which you can Google to read" Maybe you could post a link to it? Wondering if I found the correct one. To begin with, I have no idea what a Woodstock program is.

[@hawkwardsarah]

@@augustusbetucius1572 The Woodstock program is the booklet that was handed out with information about Woodstock the huge music and arts festival. The Hexagram 16 quote is pictured on part of the program and if you scroll down to close to the end of this website you will see it. The quote says, "Joy and relief make themselves felt. So, too, music has power to ease tension within the heart and to loosen the grip of obscure emotions. The enthusiasm of the heart express itself involuntarily in a burst of song, in dance, and in rhythmic movement of the body. From immemorial times the inspiring effect of the invisible sound that moves all hearts and draws them together has mystified mankind." wimwords.com/2019/08/09/from-the-stacks-woodstock-back-to-the-garden-the-definitive-50th-anniversary-archive/

[@aidanclarke4676]

i’m a florist and a musician i have become i ching

[@hawkwardsarah]

@@aidanclarke4676 awesome! You are being the changes in the world. So beautiful.

[@Optimisticnihilist09]

This guy seems like the only genuine shaman type I've ever came across, he's immensely knowledgeable too!

[@Optimisticnihilist09]

@@based9930 Yes he had some far out theories which are interesting to think about, and I highly doubt he was involved with the CIA lol

[@josef2012]

In glorious 144p! Thanks for the upload!

[@Carolleemakesthings]

Great questions, great answers!

[@jamesrobertson9697]

Pixelated Terence McKenna isn't real. He can't hurt you.

[@homatsuz8074]

Been practicing I Ching for several months already; a great guide since the beginning n 100% accurate. I recommend it to everyone, even if it doesn’t resonate with you, it’s advices are always helpful.

[@TrojansFirst]

I have the book I just don't how to use it

[@homatsuz8074]

Which one of the books? Wilhelm’s one? Perhaps the best ones are Chinese (of course) then French n German translations, I know German so I got that transcription but English one is good enough too. Tell me which one do you have n I’ll help you about how to use it.

[@moonwatch7963]

@@homatsuz8074 Wilhelm's is best I think. I use the Baynes translation.

[@TrojansFirst]

@@homatsuz8074thanks bro! I got Wilhelm and Huang in English. Do I need to buy those yarrow sticks? So I got two books.

[@TrojansFirst]

I wonder if one could use two books at once to try to get a more comprehensive reading or whatever.

[@katmandew2152]

Thank you much. Spot on. A rare example of a very clear exposition on this subject. NOT A "cosmic CIRCUS" exactly. The Tao is A great subject for extensive study to further self realization. The I ching is not "sine quo non" , as regards the practical use of inculcating taoism in daily life, which rocks for me. I wish to assist this truly expansive compact and correct explanation by adding that you will benefit from any taoist study. He is speaking the truth about the mind bending , hard core reality of living with the I ching. So go slow a lot regarding this precious heritage of humankind. Have a great "Cosmic Circus?"........why not eh?.

[@boscobear123]

I love it. You guys pump out TM content I’ve never seen or heard. Pretty awesome

[@spiralmorning5784]

You can get more of Terence at rutracker.org

[@antonackermann9620]

Your efforts are greatly appreciated, fam. You have my gratitute and my sub.

[@briabridges8895]

I truly love this channel. The consistency of Terence posts.. you are highly underrated but very appreciated 🤍

[@KevinOroszSpeaks]

The I Ching is a quantum computer more accurate than any in Apple or Google’s repertoire

[@4lung]

Thanks so much for uploading this

[@thomasreynolds1387]

Love your channel and the outro music is always intriguing. Rest in clockworks and elven paradise Mr. McKenna

[@christomorpho]

@20:22 Q: "half Shaman or half Scientist? - I think probably the answer is simply half-baked" 😂🤣

[@moonwatch7963]

The core of the I Ching (Lo Shu) is the same as the magic square for Saturn. The 64 hexagrams match to the magic square of Mercury. Ba Gua (or Pa Kua) is the martial art application of the I Ching. The changes that make up reality are best described as mercurial in nature - difficult to grasp. I believe that all the planetary magic squares are included in the I Ching also. Terence McKenna found that the King Wen sequence related to lunar phases, and the Moon is the 9 x 9 magic square.

[@hobonickel840]

my personal synchronicity (built on many life confluences especially in last few years) the fact that I found Leibniz seperate of McKenna an McKenna has had great influence on my life going way back ... my path was Jordan Peterson/Jung/Lebnix/Maxwell. McKenna, Robert Anton Wilson and Adam Curtis played a big part in shaping my perspective. I was delighted to hear McKenna nail it. I had never heard him discuss before ..thank you for posting this!

[@rezanoori1365]

I'm sure that one person who disliked this video was a fan of 4K videos.

[@marcosanaya9540]

They're an alien where down means up and up down... so technically it is an upvote. :]

[@yotday]

I kept waiting to hear Terence talk about the "I Chong"

[@marcosanaya9540]

xD

[@evansgate]

and I want his take on King Kong playing ping pong in or around Hong Kong

[@161157gor]

Profound Wisdom & Understanding... Terence the Diviner Spins his Magical Yarn ☘

[@susiefairfield7218]

The Tao Jones

[@marcosanaya9540]

*claps* *stands* "Nice!" lol

[@tribebuddha]

Oh, hi there! Lol.

[@AdamVitale-go3td]

These dudes were ahead of their time

[@fetidestas]

Thanks again

[@jinsugarbrown]

Thanks for thé new material

[@SirPrancelot1]

Fascinating, thank you.

[@44westwind]

Awesome discussion!

[@OntarioAtOrion]

I Ching is so accurate, its the actual universe answering your question. Its the best!

[@billytheschmid]

What is needed in physics is the understanding of Poincaré stress and Mach's principle. Given a resonator confinement (i.e. assuming the existence of Poincaré stress), it has been shown recently that quantum mechanics follows from special relativistic beating patterns caused by a mismatch between this resonator and its resonance (i.e. that the de Broglie waves can be understood as beating patterns caused by a Lorentz boost of the Compton oscillations [Zitterbewegung], where the latter are responsible for mass through E=mc^2). This proves that quantum mechanics is a relativistic phenomenon, provided Poincaré stress.

[@antonackermann9620]

What you said made no sense to me, but gave me a raging hard brainer. Please would you provide a link to your recommended sourse of knowledge. It would be greatly appreciated.

[@billytheschmid]

@@antonackermann9620 Have a look at the channel "Quicycle Video", and listen to John G Williamson's latest talk as well as the highly misunderstood talk by Dr. Martin van der Mark with title "Quantum Particle, Light Clock, Or Heavy Beat Box?". Also look up papers by David Hestenes (the father of geometric algebra) on quantum mechanics. Personally, I believe the key is to develop new continuity equations. For example, we usually work with continuity of charge, but not [explicitly] of current. We should have both. What I am suggesting is that you cannot have charge without current or current without charge. As things are formulated today, you can have charge without current. I believe this is wrong, and that they necessitate each other. This rules out point particles. However, the "point-particle approximation" still applies at scales large compared to the "size" of the internal flux. Such an approximation also yields the notion of "intrinsic spin".

[@robertbendik9901]

Hi Terence !

[@soundphilosophy]

The patterns of a "mysterious force" that "ebbs and flows in our lives" when "risk taking" is beneficial, is Kairos Moment phenomenology. The I Ching talks about it often, especially commentary in the Taoist I Ching on hexagram 40.

[@TheEs150]

so amazing man.

[@salmanuel4053]

I owned a copy of McKenna's TimeWave Zero which utilized the King Wen Sequence. It wasn't perfect, but it appeared to reveal the influence of novelty on the expression of reality. That's a point.

[@quinnsklepowich3138]

Who in the mid 90s was doing podcasts via webcam ? Wow. If he was alive today boy lemme tell you

[@bestgirl3380]

When I think of Terrence Mckenna, the 57th hexagram comes to mind. Name: the Gentle Formed by the trigrams: Wind over wind

[@ewncilo]

after 20:20 the best part of the whole interview.

[@PsychiCorey]

1:46 hear the tropical bird in mckennas hawaiian abode😂 this is great

[@marcosanaya9540]

pure beauty

[@Patrick-2-4]

Spectacular

[@misaghi33]

Would be interesting to read his school report x )

[@xelaklement3367]

McKenna was such a genius, it's a shame he's been taken away so early from this plane of existence.

[@NovakiSalem]

Decades ahead of his time.

[@vibratoryuniverse308]

The I Ching is thousands of years old…

[@NovakiSalem]

@@vibratoryuniverse308 so is McKenna /joke

[@eightness888]

Rest in peace Mr McKenna. You will be missed as a true philosopher of our current age, I wish you could have made it to 2010.

[@landryprichard6778]

I too am an archivist, Peter. Great job as always. Sooooo unbelievably important, that which you do. Cheers from North Carolina. ❤ (Also, was this an early Internet video chat?)

[@SatochiCraft]

A question. What does he says? Half shamman half scientist, and then? -thanks for uploading this gem!

[@antonackermann9620]

Half baked. It means high or stoned. He enjoys smoking cannabis.

[@DMTInfinity]

*Who's the weird dude who keeps popping up in his RV asking random question..?*

[@justinbauer7723]

I think this is called the first podcast

[@mikeward1337]

Sup, enlightened peeps?

[@katrinawasserman3599]

so fucking cool

[@KG8B]

Nice!

[@ty7911]

lmao the host got straight to it

[@augustusbetucius1572]

The host seems stiff and unnatural. Too bad he couldn't have interviewed Terence in person. Then He could have gotten bombed first, and relaxed a bit. Sounds like he's reading off a script

[@anthzell]

Fuck right he did😂

[@aspiceoflife]

A weird thing happened to me. About a week ago I tried to change the youtube reverse/forward feature (left/right arrow) to 5 seconds from 10 but couldn't figure out how. Today I find it changed to 5 automatically. Could my intention/thoughts have been premeditatedly aligned with the time?

[@spookytwink420]

Love you all ❤️

[@hebertjerome]

Through and through out my life the e chain has been a rudder that has helped me to guide my path

[@TheCatfishcheese]

Terence McKenna is the smartest human to ever speak.

[@RealIllumin]

So you're aware of every human that's ever lived?

[@TheCatfishcheese]

yes. I am fully aware, that Terence McKenna is the smartest human to ever speak 😁

[@covermaiden]

I have the same sense sometimes

[@jkws3724]

@@TheCatfishcheese smart ?

[@jkws3724]

wise certainly

[@TrojansFirst]

I bought an I-Ching book awhile back but I have no idea how to use it.

[@mattmattmatt3091]

1. Open book 2. Read pages in said book 3. Repeat step 2

[@moonwatch7963]

You either use yarrow sticks, or 3 coins.

[@WilmaJonson]

Just dont burn turtles alive!

[@TrojansFirst]

@@mattmattmatt3091 it's too confusing for me. lol.. I can't make sense of it.

[@TrojansFirst]

@@moonwatch7963 what about stones?

[@sterlingriebling2970]

So weird that I was just watching how rogan and Tommy Chong talk about the I Ching and how Terrence was involved with it.

[@moonwatch7963]

Syncronicity!

[@Optimisticnihilist09]

KZbin heavily personalizes recommendations based on a user's history,

[@tau3ahamakhoa]

Half baked!! classic line

[@MrJodava]

The shirt of the interviewer looks incredibly psychedelic thanks to the low quality of the recording. Felt like I was tripping while staring at it.

[@janbudin5900]

We should gather together. Found a community or many communities, so we refund what was taken away by the western society to make us slaves of consumerism, make us week, unprotected by the community in our nuclear families, to completely buy and control our lives at the end of the day. Here is the simplest of all solutions. Decentalization, location where the community knows the people and the land that are involved, an open community based on the laws of Nature, or divine laws and not on some social rules imposed by some random people that "hold the power". We don't need. The centering would come through internet and technology itself that has reached a level of complexity that is almost matching the one of Nature, so that is becoming an independent conscious mirror. And there we are. Free to be what we are, supported by our fellows and technology, by peace love and gratitude to be alive. Bless you all

[@charlesrivera9877]

who the fuck would dislike this?

[@vekunde]

profound

[@161157gor]

Coincidence or A Cyclic Expression of the Universe ?

[@DJ-Brownie-UK]

what if eye n eye mentioned , one may have somthing of use/help

[@robertbendik9901]

Hi Peter :)

[@navdeepsingh_2122]

I love Terrance. I would have married him.

[@antonackermann9620]

I would have done drugs with him.

[@navdeepsingh_2122]

@@antonackermann9620 I would have tried mushrooms. 😈

[@Salmontemaki]

Here early for once

[@spence2126]

What d'ya wanna be in your next life? Ooh a sunbeam plz🌞✌️❤️

[@DJ-Brownie-UK]

the elf dude dont realise its them interfearing / playing god , THATS theb problem

[@samaelilith6099]

Half baked hahahahahaah🤣🤣🤣

[@benderbender1233]

✌😎

[@asemic]

meow

[@Mataharifilms]

Half-baked? He’s high a lot of the time, no?

[@vif3182]

this potato quality and set it to 144p to get the truest new age digital vibe

[@moonwatch7963]

The I Ching drove the Jesuits mad. It's basis is the same as the magic square for Saturn.

[@Gematrinator]

Remember that chris guy who also “killed himself” ?

[@Gematrinator]

He spoke too much about the truth

[@moonwatch7963]

@@Gematrinator No, Chris who?

[@Gematrinator]

@@moonwatch7963 chris cantelmo, the guy was made into a laughing stock and bullied online til he took his own life apparently.

[@moonwatch7963]

@@Gematrinator What did he write about?

[@theodorelux]

Perhaps an AI-enhanced video or at least the original size would be better than Terence McPixels?

[@MrJodava]

I'm not sure why, but I actually like it in 144p, feels like a weird painting. Would be nice to have both doe

[@stephenburgess5710]

Around five minutes… no

[@DJ-Brownie-UK]

these are all deep fakes