Termina Weapon Tier List

[@ЛеонидЗурнаджи]

I added marcoh's fists on the wiki.

[@guabirualado2726]

Based

[@gelohasexisted3552]

Where would it rank though I don't know what's better than marcohs fist in the late game?

[@FyodorSmirnov-et3rx]

@@gelohasexisted3552 Meat grinder, black steel and red virtue

[@gelohasexisted3552]

@@FyodorSmirnov-et3rx damn that's so little

[@mikaele]

Marcoh's fists >

[@ImpuscaVana]

Marcoh's fists have alot of utility and strengths... definitely S tier for me~

[@Capitaend]

Factual

[@druzil9443]

True is pretty easy to kill enemies with two hits i hope once tanaka gets released he can gain the same skill as marcoh by training with him.

[@thefull9746]

The only weapon in the game that you can use without arms

[@confused5846]

I lost both my arms and CAN'T FIND THE SYLVIAN BOOK good thing he can still have decent damage with his stumps

[@cheesebucket142]

I feel like MArcoh's fists should have been in this tier list And the Lugr is really great for clearing out the oprhanage

[@GoGonzeaux]

That second line of your comment might put you on a watch list 😂

[@mcchicken1849]

I'm sorry the Luger is good for W H A T ?

[@lol2424242424]

​@@mcchicken1849Those orphans can fuck you up, you gotta do whatever it takes if you want to survive Termina.

[@deemandude6131]

​@@mcchicken1849 Anakin skywalker approved

[@RazalasTrebla]

Marina: Wow Levi, you took out the mutated orphans with just one shot from your pistol! Levi: The kids were mutated?

[@lancehackman6304]

Funnily enough, when I started as Abella, I got weaponscraft, the officer sword and brought some crating materials with me. One of the three train luggage had the "syringe" in it and I was able to start off the game with the sandman's kiss.

[@ADumbMf_]

What in alll-mers name is this luck..?

[@Legiterate]

​@SUPERMavic Unlucky because 4 salmonsnake rune isnt too useful, one is enough

[@Brandon-yk8qz]

@@Legiterate What? In a saving everyone run you can have a full party. So 4 salmonsnake runes would be very useful...

[@combobreaker449]

I picked Marcoh and put the knife on him, took the knife off and realized how dumb it was to even equip him with any weapon. Double hits best thing ever

[@Acesahn]

I really wanted to know how well his fists match up against the later weapons in the game.

[@Qumatmee]

@@Acesahn Marcoh's fist beats every weapon from the mallet down. You punch everything until you can get a good, guaranteed weapon like black steel/Sergal spear. I'm serious. it's that good.

[@Qumatmee]

Marcoh's fist + adrenaline rush + heroin +meatpie plus + 3 yggaegetsu amulets and he become a real Jojo.

[@combobreaker449]

@@Qumatmee I'm so fortunate to have accidently chosen the right answers for AGI Boost and Adrenaline Rush. Dude is a beast. Literally kill gods....with these hands

[@hasgames3231]

I had no idea about it till I just took it off to get his bare fist pro and was mad at myself for not thinking about it sooner, like you can one shot some of the starting enemies with that shit it's insane

[@Missy_Polly]

You forgot the wheelchair! Man, when Olivia revs up them manual wheels it's over. S-tier

[@Acesahn]

I'm disappointed Marcoh's fists aren't on the list XD. I'm genuinely curious to see how well they match up to everything else.

[@DowntheDead]

pretty much top tier. I played marcoh yesterday and lost both arms during big fight. Kept about the same dps as i was doing with the eastern sword as with fists

[@Redman493]

​@@DowntheDeadyup, top tier for sure and you don't even need to put a lot of effort to get them because they are marcoh's fists xd

[@skell6134]

​@@Redman493Maybe Top A tier or low S tier

[@zuho24]

His Fist is S Tier 100%

[@konoegiatanez3754]

Thye're pretty much an S tier weapon as they have one advantage no other weapon has essentially. It doesn't depreciate in value when you lose limbs. For some reason. Marcoh's fists basically have INFINTIE value, cause any other weapon in the game becomes useless when you get unlucky and lose all limbs but his stumps will deal 500-600+ damage every turn even if you're down to stumps, especially once your got max Adrenaline Rush stacks and some other buff like Heroine or Brown Vial.

[@logans2001]

Call me twisted but i always gave Sandman's kiss to Levi in my party cause poison was really good and acted independently from his withdrawal symptoms

[@MautheDoog]

Pretty smart! It's definitely good to give weaker party members the status effects for this reason

[@abel_fishcat]

Weapons tear list? What about food tear list? Loot from pinecone pig maybe?

[@asturias0267]

The best pinecone pig loot is the coin

[@ВладимирЕремин-и5х]

You can get All-Mehr's blood sword for free, if yoy talk trur to O'saa in the church. You ll get free affinity point, which is enogh

[@mothified1676]

I could two shot death mask with trench gun, with Abella, on Maso, without having Levi skill. I dunno why people think that his skill is required

[@mothified1676]

All you need is a quick finger and do a quick double shot

[@isthismatter]

Its a bug Maybe will be fixed in the next update

[@mothified1676]

@@isthismatter or maybe it won't. It usually doesn't LUL oh well, more for me. This dude changed the hiding spot of infinite bear traps three times, Bethesda style

[@OrlandoAguirre222]

Works with booby trap stun but that's all I know. Kinda cool on preserving ammo but nothing else sadly and it is only 1 shell

[@mothified1676]

​@@OrlandoAguirre222 Trench gun stun and 2-shot kill can happen even without Levi's skill because the skill is currently bugged. so anyone can do it ;)

[@KaijuAlert]

Abella is the low-key strongest starting character, when I played with her I had a Sandman's Kiss crafted within 90 minutes of starting what would eventually be 13 hour run. Pair up with the goat as a distraction/ damage sink and the 100% poison chance will absolutely destroy the early and mid-game. Solid damage, bonus hit chance, bonus crit and 100% poison is insane. The rake is bugged, I think. The description says it causes severe bleeding but in game it doesn't. Either a bug or an oversight. The flaming mace is underwhelming, though you can craft it early if you get decent RNG on some fairly common items. I don't know why it only has 60% burn chance when posion and bleed are just as effective and their weapons have a 100% status chance. Let's be real though, despite the 2-handed limitation and the relative difficulty of getting it, the Meat Grinder is the best weapon in the game. Only 35 damage but it hits 3 times (so 105 effective damage) and it can crit on any of those hits. 100% bleed chance. Most enemies in the game cant survive the initial attack to the torso, those that can often die to the bleed before they can take an action. From the point of getting the Meat Grinder, Abella can probably very comfortably solo the game on her own. I got the Meat Grinder from Tunnel 1 on morning 1 and it never felt like anything could challenge me after that. My endgame party was Abella with the grinder, O'saa with the Sandman's Kiss and the goat. Looking back, after the early game the goat costs more to heal and feed than he delivers in terms of combat value. Abella and O'saa, each with a Wraith ring, Leechmonger ring and Betel stone were unatoppable.

[@usmanrayhan4885]

The problem with Abella is that you cant recruit Abella at the start

[@RevenantNeverDies]

you can, you just have to go to the bunker where she ends up once she leaves the train. You can pass the time by gathering the herbs or looting crates and then walk all the way to the bunker past the dogs and she will talk to you when you interact with the door in the ground. if you do not activate this event she will always become moonscorched so if you want a good party member make sure to do this@@usmanrayhan4885

[@supermariolego878]

@@usmanrayhan4885 Wdym? She's literally the only character you can recruit on day 1 morning. You can have her in your party within less than 5 minutes of starting the game

[@alejandromartinezmontes6700]

@@supermariolego878you can’t recruit her if you play as her. That’s what I assume they mean.

[@nadMoZzzg]

​@@alejandromartinezmontes6700got meat grinder on my first Daan playthrough.. Abella just shouldn't go with funny head-sawing doctor too orphanage at night Well she lost both arms it's was almost mercy kill. But when we fighted she magically regrow her arms and stanlock Daan with wrench for like 20 turns but hp for some reason don't drop after 1, funny times

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

Cam confirm even the weakest characters can grab the kassara is the opening. Things can possibly go wrong but I've done it multiple times and I don't find it too hard to get. Gotta guard for three turns and rev up on his arm. Then torso shots until you win. It's more consistent if you use a healing items, but that seems like a good trade off for me

[@gonathi117]

You just cant have any phobia, else it's too much damage

[@nadMoZzzg]

Luger pistol two-three bullets or gamble with knife headshot

[@enk335]

You don't actually really have to invest for Blood Sword! It's only tier one and you can get affinity just by going to the confessional in the church.

[@rebirth4119]

In doing my first playthrough with Osa'a, you can actually get a decent sword(officer sword) or spear if you go through the full text backstory adventure(beginning of game). I will caveat this with- you can die at multiple parts which can make it time consuming if you're trying to do it trial and error.

[@BigKingWoof]

Another downside to Red Virtue is that Perkele can reflect otherworldly attacks, and RV is considered otherworldly. So by the time you get it, you've probably killed most things anyway and the second to last boss punishes you for having it...

[@Chuckvsfrank1232]

Just black orb his head before he puts his guard up

[@RevenantNeverDies]

I think you forgot that extra turns allow you to fully rearrange your equipment and weapons mid turn and then have another turn to attack or stall. Just switch to one of the 5 or so other weapons you have by that point for free@@Chuckvsfrank1232

[@aReT4RTedduck]

Doesn't Cahara in his ending S shown to be holding sabbath?

[@MautheDoog]

He is!

[@ximitify]

After throwing fireballs and black orbs everywhere and lighting Prehevil on fire with O'ssa, i think from the comments below Marcoh's fist are High S Tier Weapon. Time to become Jotaro and Star Platinum at the same time.

[@hunterlurvey698]

Its weird that the rifle can take off limbs and not the shotgun, you know, the gun that literally takes chunks out of you

[@misteral9045]

The destructive power of shotguns is massively overrated. Unless you're shooting point blank or high caliber slugs, the spread is more likely to knock something over than blast off a limb. As opposed to a single high caliber bullet, that can be accurately shot at joints. Shotguns could work like en garde from F&H 1, where you get an extra beginning action in combat, with the shotgun it could stun them for the first turn.

[@hunterlurvey698]

@misteral9045 I suppose that's a good point, but I would say the ammo matters a lot too in that case.

[@misteral9045]

@@hunterlurvey698 The most common rifle rounds are .22 and .308, the .22 won't delimb anything but the .308 will definitely. The most common shotgun slug is .408, but remember that the slugs are filled with much smaller material, either birdshot or buckshot. And as you go up in size you're just adding more filler, the size of the bullets hitting the target doesn't go up, unlike rifles or pistols. You'd have an easier time blowing off an arm with a .45 desert eagle instead of an R12. It's not impossible to delimb something with a shotgun, but it makes sense in game that you do it with rifles.

[@hunterlurvey698]

@@misteral9045 valid points. I wonder what effects machine guns would have if/when they get added go the game

[@misteral9045]

@@hunterlurvey698 haha go on and wonder.

[@Geese_boi777]

I don’t play F&H but I love watching content for it. This was super entertaining

[@dvache1366]

You should try it!

[@mexicanweeb6131]

​@dvache1366 not everyone is into cock and ball torture like us.

[@ythandlename]

The story is amazing but the game is truly immersive. You always feel like danger is around the corner and impending doom from a single screw up but there are enough ways to just simply MacGyver your way to beat the odds. A lot of hidden goodies and secret methods to get to an area or beat a difficult enemy.

[@gamesoftoday2656]

Your videos and shorts ARE AMAZING!!!

[@svolozhanin7627]

So yeah, the best weapons to get after viewing all conditions are Black Steel and Sergal Spear.

[@deletedTestimony]

Aww yeah 10 second speedrun to F bomb, already know I'm gonna like this video

[@XD-sc4ix]

Would you do a tier list of the weapons of fear and hunger 1?

[@ComradeMaryFromMars]

You speak fast friend I enjoy that makes tier lists much better

[@svolozhanin7627]

I think Sabbath should be above Bayonet in C tier for being a one handed weapon.

[@ZeDoGiCa]

the bayonet is S tier for me. its the best gun type, and you don't need to waste a turn switching it out to conserve ammo in fights. in the runs I've had it, that extra turn w whoever has it equipped has saved my ass more times I can count.

[@shadow_fox2000]

If you wanna kill Abella to get her soul to get Weaponcraft, it actually only takes 1 soul stone to learn Weaponcraft skill. Crazy stuff. So you can steal from Abella at the start for Bench Grinder and other parts, kill her to get her soul, get 1 soul stone to get Weaponcraft... And Boom! You have a Meat Grinder super early in the run.

[@цц4]

Вепонкрафт открывается за 4 камня душ - это последний навык в ветке умений Абеллы

[@b_b_g_m]

I'm pretty sure everyone can get the kassara if they go for the body on the Janitor, or reload the game until they get a lucky hit on the head. That last one's what I've done for my Olivia run, it's neat

[@droidetormenta]

Actually, you don't need to use 4 Soul Stones to obtain Weaponcraft. If you are Abella or have Abella's Soul you can get it right away, you don't need to "buy" the "previous" abilities

[@sweet-nessu]

I don’t get why the spear is so low? Pretty much every enemy in the game has zero resistance to pierce damage, which usually means wasting bullets with guns, but with the spear you can get pierce damage that is equal to other weapons you might have at the same time. There are definitely many fights where enemies are resistant to slash and blunt damage, in which case even if you have a stronger slash attack weapon it’s going to be dealing the same damage as the spear.

[@MautheDoog]

The main issue is it's two handed which limits its use, and by the time you get it (it can drop from the Bellends) you usually have better weapons anyway

[@sweet-nessu]

@@MautheDoog That’s true, although I think starting with it with Osa’a and Abella (although I suppose abella is better off with a wrench and wrench toss) can make things pretty simple.

[@pilotero3898]

Spear is low-key broken early game with O'saa if you pick meditation (which is bugged and revs up to 3 instantly), he one-shots every contestant in the early game after you guard turn 1. I got rid of Karin, Tanaka, Abella, Daan, Marina and Marcoh this way. So the first encounter with pocketcat was way better this time with 6 contestants heads. Chose to trade for a vinushka bible, farmed a little for gro-goroth affinity, got scorched earth and basically one shot everything when I got to day 1 night. On the other hand, if you played maso mode I think O'saa is pretty much fucked because he can't deal with death masks easily as others with the trenchgun and the spear really doesn't compensate for that

[@carlafalasca4514]

Meat grinder S rest F

[@solstone7443]

Skills tier list next?

[@sacherrina]

i just started playing both fear and hunger n the termina one (i rlly like the story n lore) but i dont know if ill ever reach any endings 😭 maybe im just bad and a scaredy cat so i tend to watch ppls gameplays instead 😣 HOW DO PPL DO IT HOW DO THEY PLAYY WELLLL AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[@mikaele]

Tbh they die over and over and learn

[@dontkickmychick6076]

A lot of it is just dying until you learn how the game works, then beating it easily because a lot of the difficulty just comes from not knowing what the hell is going on

[@drbeeant]

Trial and error that's all it really is. Strongest power in the game is just knowledge. Don't sweat it if you lose a good run, just remember what made it work and how you could best repeat it.

[@asturias0267]

You have to play the game a lot and lose a lot to learn how to play well. I struggle with the game because I don't like having to lose to make progress. If you want to be a bit cheesy you can start as Marina and reroll your starting equipment book choice until you get the Vinushka skin bible. Then go into the woodsman's house, grab glass off the floor, fight the woodsman and throw the glass into his eyes to blind him. Then you can hopefully kill the woodsman without losing a limb. If you do that successfully you can get the axe weapon which is pretty decent and you get the key to the woodsman's basement. If you go into the basement you can draw the Vinushka symbol and pick up the pinecone pig from the tree upstairs. Equipping that will let you sometimes get items for free at the start of every battle. You can then go to the moonscorched that are clawing at their faces at the start of the village and get in battle with them. Since they don't attack you can repeatedly join battle and leave battle for infinite loot. It'll take a while to get much of anything useful but it is quite handy if you're struggling. Some of the loot you can get in ludes bullets, money, and the coins used for coin flip challenges. You might be able to get a book of enlightenment too from it but I'm not sure of that. Once you're done with the grinding you can either sleep to save or make a save point with a God of Fear and Hunger skin bible at the train.

[@sacherrina]

@@asturias0267 WOAH

[@hwate8]

Red Virtue and triple Meat Grinder run when?

[@UniGya]

7:05 I don't know, Lantern Flail is by far the easiest to get. There's a guaranteed broomstick in tunnel 5 and duck tape and ornamental lanterns are pretty common. I can usually have the stuff for it before I finish clearing out the village for heads and supplies

[@joshuajohnson8991]

Your KZbin voice is still miles better that All Bones Jones and his rolling Rs

[@lucariosolitario1752]

The thing I like about sabbath, Can kill ghost if you dont have spells of damage, Its good see in termina a cursed sword

[@yurnero4894]

I may confuse weaponcrafting with a different skill but I think it's bugged and you can skill it, without having the rest of the skilltree. Maybe that was shortcurcuit but I'm sure that one of the Abella Skills doesn't require the previous skills to be learned.

[@aisowarai_]

Alll-mer blood sword is really not needed until you have Spice Forge auto-cast. And still you need blood sword only if you don't have better weapon

[@n0isyturtle]

I got Meat Mallet and the Rifle on my very first game from luggage on the train. What a fucking troll, cause I had no clue what I was doing and died basically right away.

[@MautheDoog]

many such cases. I get the best rng in quick test runs

[@Artem30132]

spear got pierce dmg and a kassara slash dmg, so why spear is d rank? i mean spear is literally oneshot for villagers, and kassara need 2 hits, and also almost every enemy is weak to pierce. Yeah u got 3 more flat dmg or whatever but spear got 50 PERCENT more dmg for weakness

[@destorer]

Naa i played as abella. I had 2 meat grinders ,a lanturn and a sandmans. Game was legit a breeze as soon as i hit 4 party.

[@Soyboi.]

spear is actually really good. almost every low-mid tier enemy gets 120% pierce damage, and there are barely any piercing weapons in the game

[@characlark7826]

Have you done a skill tier list?

[@MautheDoog]

That's next!

[@characlark7826]

@@MautheDoog hell yeah can't wait.

[@thegoldexperience8340]

Drututt loves his red virtue el kek

[@mustbenatemoney]

I'm not sure if this was a glitch on my end, but I only needed 3 soulstones for Weapon Crafting. I was able to skip Trap Crafting

[@MautheDoog]

there's a few glitches like that, yeah

[@mustbenatemoney]

@@MautheDoog thats dope, i've been getting really into termina since stumbling into the new gods podcast and watching more of your and ADR's content!

[@matthewdougherty1159]

Reaper's rake needs to be lower tier not sure if it is a bug or what but i can never find enough sickles to craft it in my playthrough.

[@my_name_is_J_777]

he thought executioner did anything lol

[@westerlyyyy]

Can you make a video on how to get some of the better weapons in the game?

[@iamagreatape9576]

seeing shotgun placed so low is painful. because most people know that you don't actually need levis skills to get a guaranteed two shot kill on most enemies in the overworld. two shots or one shot+booby trap is all you need to kill like 90% of the enemies you'll come across.

[@soletlunae9028]

so maul still haven't know about the wheelchair gunslinger huh

[@anesgamer3961]

There's way less info online about termina than there is on fear and hunger 1 wich makes it feel like termina is harder

[@Cicadasalad]

Does anybody else know how to get the reapers rake? I’m trying to get all of abellas weapons, but can only find three sickle villagers

[@MautheDoog]

There's one sickle villager sitting in the house with the glass, otherwise the rest should be in the central part of the village or underground

[@Cicadasalad]

@@MautheDoog Thank you for the tip! I’ll keep looking. I’m a big fan of your videos!

[@frowningmirror8097]

Maaaan that spear was carrying me in old town and I think the Kassara is useless

[@adamyohan]

Thoughts on Marcoh Fists?

[@DragoonBoom]

I can see Sabbath being low B tier once they implement more ghosts into the game... and if Miro ever hardcodes Marcoh to not be able to punch ghosts. Right now, there's only what, the child ghosts and a completely optional encounter? It could be a decent weapon for one character in a full party to wield, but right now there's just no real point in having a dedicated ghost hunter. Also I'm not sure how important damage weaknesses are on enemies, but I can see iron spear being low C tier just for being a source of pierce damage that doesn't use ammo. I think the neighbours are all weak to pierce damage? Could be useful to have that going in with a full team.

[@MautheDoog]

yeah the main issue is that damage types just don't have a big enough effect to worry, and I don't know if you could fix it. Bigger number = better unless you have a whole armoury, which doesn't really fit Fear and Hunger's style

[@pjorkan]

I belive meat grindr or serval spear.

[@MrFody]

Where Miasma?

[@MautheDoog]

that's the question we're all asking...

[@MrFody]

@@MautheDoog forgot?

[@MautheDoog]

@@MrFody It's not in Termina

[@MrFody]

@@MautheDoog on the Moonless beast, you can pick up it.

[@MautheDoog]

@@MrFody That's Black Steel, you can't get Miasma

[@TeaTimeLP]

Is the spear really that good? I started out with it as O'Saa and it's carrying me gretty good - all other weapons I got so far (even the mallet and the axe) just don't seem worth it, because so far pretty much every enemy is weak to stab damage anyways :o

[@MautheDoog]

weakness aren't a big deal outside of magic/physical split tbh. Spear is decent but you always run the risk of being unable to use it, and it's not guaranteed until late game when there's better stuff

[@FreshStart559]

What about maiasma

[@surelylune]

not a termina weapon lol

[@piglet11762]

Marcos fists are top s tier

[@Scooge420]

So mallot is S tier?

[@MautheDoog]

easy S

[@leonoftheborealvalley5340]

Weapon craft requires 1 soul stone

[@MautheDoog]

it does, but that's a bug and will likely get fixed in the next update

[@rizkiramadhan9266]

You should've graded purely by stats

[@samkeiser9776]

It does make sense from a comparison perspective, but not from a playthrough routing one, however, he’s not really routing, so yeah.

[@pjorkan]

You saying the game isnt hard enough? Have you finished it in S/M mode? Or maybe the first game on the highest difficulty? But yeah you get all info off how to do it on YT so no gale is really hard no more.

[@MautheDoog]

yeah I've gotten every ending in the first game (which requires multiple Hard Mode playthroughs) and I've beaten Termina on Maso. Everybody learned how to beat Funger's S Endings from other people because they're really obscure, but I beat Termina fully by myself. You can see all my playthroughs here: www.youtube.com/@MautheDoog/streams

[@RiRiRiPoks]

Sandman is better than sergal, others i agree

[@stzaleft7355]

Doogs Scottish accent is low-key sexxxyaf.