Terminator Dark Fate John Connor Death Scene

Directed by Tim Miller
Produced by
James Cameron
David Ellison
Screenplay by
David Goyer
Justin Rhodes
Billy Ray
Story by
James Cameron
Charles H. Eglee
Josh Friedman
David Goyer
Justin Rhodes
Based on Characters
by James Cameron
Gale Anne Hurd
Starring
Linda Hamilton
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Mackenzie Davis
Natalia Reyes
Gabriel Luna
Diego Boneta
Music by Tom Holkenborg
Cinematography Ken Seng
Edited by Julian Clarke
Production
company
Paramount Pictures
Skydance Media
20th Century Fox
Tencent Pictures
Lightstorm Entertainment
TSG Entertainment

[@jamesxiong6420]

This scene was the first time I ever walked out from a movie. The flight attendant and the Air Marshall tackled me trying to get out

[@Hyperi0nn]

Lmao

[@TheGreatDearLeaderJimPickens]

Got a genuine laugh from me for this one

[@antonioaguilar4157]

Smooth!!! Jajajajaja

[@StefunnyStrange]

This comment is underrated

[@jerrelscott418]

Lmaooo 😂😂😂

[@Mrgokujr2012]

T3, when you realize Miles Dyson died for nothing. Dark Fate, when you realize the T-800's sacrifice was for nothing and he could've been there to protect John.

[@doubleflores8350]

No, rise of the machines and salvation were proof that Miles and the T-800’s sacrifice was for nothing. And I liked T3, Salvation can remain forgotten in the abyss however.

[@user-hu8dq2ug4c]

Terminator Genysis: John Connor death of Time Travel Terminator Dark Fate: John Connor death of T-800 shot.

[@sirmackavelli1819]

@@doubleflores8350 salvation was a alright attempt at trying to do a future war story but it should of been done better

[@RogueJyn]

Can we all agree that this was just an alternate time-line

[@PrinceFloof]

@@doubleflores8350 Salvation is decent compared to this and Genysis

[@MovieEggman]

The most jaw droppings thing about this scene is not John Connor’s death, it’s the fact that this was James Cameron’s idea.

[@DannyCosmos]

For real…to undermine his own movie.. t2

[@Infern0121]

Cameron doesn't care about anything except avatar sadly

[@jesusfranco]

Does that even surprise you? After George Lucas destroying his own classical Star Wars trilogy? After Ridley Scott destroying the complete Alien franchise he created with those Prometheus shits? What's the next... Ford Coppola doing Godfather IV resurrecting Al Pacino?

[@CYB3R2K]

​@@jesusfrancois not Al anymore, is DUNK!

[@TheListenerCanon]

And yet Cameron criticized Fincher for killing Newt and Hicks in Alien 3 after the events of Aliens.

[@gaminatiworld6138]

Years of childhood memories blown away in just one shot.

[@roymunson1]

Did he not shoot twice?

[@shinXshadow]

One more just to make sure lol it’s destroyed completely

[@towerofresonance4877]

​@@roymunson1no

[@TheJarman9]

No one takes this seriously. It ended at T2 :)

[@Ms314159265358979323]

um... two lol.

[@richardjoyce2764]

The T-1000 could not finish the mission, so they sent Duke Nukem.

[@milesleonhardt8240]

Underrated

[@metintatari7148]

I GOT BALLS OF STEEL

[@LateNightPerson]

Thank God I'm not the only one who noticed that Arnie looks more like Duke Nukem here lmao

[@TheRealBamboonga]

@@metintatari7148 WHO IS THIS?!?!!? GET OFF THIS SERVER OR I'LL HAVE YOU ARRESTED!!! I'M SO TOTALLY CALLING THE COPS!!! GET OFF MY VENT!!!

[@metintatari7148]

@@TheRealBamboonga ah a man of culture I see.

[@rickkcir2]

*James Cameron:* I hate T3 because it ruined the franchise’s message *Also James Cameron:*

[@SuspiciouslyGroomedPegasus]

Wait James Cameron directed this movie?

[@TheTeletabis]

​@@SuspiciouslyGroomedPegasusNot directed, but wrote and produced

[@alexcondurache]

Terminator 3 was a gem compared with the others that came after

[@subscorpion9560]

Everything after T2 sucked. Genisys is an exception for me in a bias way. Yes it ain’t 1 or 2 but after watching 3 and salvation, I thought it was better than those two. Then this came and I still stand by that statement

[@TheSuperCenaFan]

At least T3 didn't try to replace John Connor

[@matthewjoyner1595]

Literally the worst thing they could have done. They managed to destroy the entire franchise in the first 5 minutes of this movie without even realizing what they were doing. Stunning

[@skullcrushert_t2905]

Havent seen the movie but this scene, does it show in the beginning or is this the ending?

[@iamnotkyle7248]

Now everybody wishes that the terminator threw John Connor around instead of shooting him.

[@schmittza]

@@skullcrushert_t2905 he literally said in the first 5 minutes. Where do you think it is?

[@skullcrushert_t2905]

@@schmittza I forgot that I wrote this comment XD ngl,I don't know what my past self was thinking tbh

[@schmittza]

@@skullcrushert_t2905 😅 you numpty. All good.

[@gunnarnorris4138]

Tim Miller: I killed off John because I don’t believe in “chosen one” storylines. *Proceeds with a chosen one storyline except this time with a girl*

[@Thunderchild-gz4gc]

If you hate it you're a misogynist

[@javier232]

It was Jim Cameron that killed him off and Tim Miller was against it. But since they asked for Jim's help, they played it his way.

[@TheTerminator-t800]

Comment ils ont tourné ça 30 ans après s’il vous plaît ?

[@andrewhernandez2987]

​@@TheTerminator-t800They used CGI to de age the characters. It's quite a shame that they could have told a completely different story but went the way they did.

[@bruttokane8846]

If there are multiple chosens it means there is no chosen. People are put in charge because they share qualities. The girl has the same qualities as Connor(her heart most of all).

[@tchgy9452]

It’s so messed up. Imagine John’s last thought and memory seeing the Terminator.. the one who he remembers protecting him and seeing as a father figure, only to see him again and get killed by him.

[@brett7954]

Yeah it’s heartbreaking bro

[@thomaskerei1651]

Least it wasn't the same t-800

[@a7xguitar666]

@@brett7954 its not heartbreaking, its bad writing

[@evilaj2010]

That’s not the same machine though.

[@callmewoody7723]

@@evilaj2010 it still looks the same tho.

[@tsegafasil7094]

How to kill a franchise in 2 minutes

[@shannondemers1490]

Yep they sure fuck this one up good.

[@hankhill2254]

If you’re wanting to make a sequel don’t kill the og characters Like the starwars sequels, only kill the characters if it’s necessary for the plot and give them a heroic death

[@Epags1996]

I mean, they kinda killed the franchise with the last 2 movies, this one kinda revived the series.

[@dawb86]

@Eric Pagliari It's.... it's done, man. 😂😂😂

[@Epags1996]

@@dawb86 you think they aren't gonna continue the series? You don't know how greedy Hollywood really is.

[@TheConstructiveCritic888]

In all honesty.... What was going on in James Cameron’s mind to allow this to actually happen?!?! The fact that these guys were soooo perfectly de-aged means they could have made whatever film they wanted. Just depressing.

[@inky5574]

Well supposedly this was done because the director Tim Miller said that he doesn't believe in stories about chosen ones. But then I guess he forgotten about that statement when Dani came along.

[@PrinceFloof]

@@inky5574 What a moron he is

[@Gundam4]

@@inky5574 he was a fool

[@SpartyCubsFan]

@@inky5574 She's a strong wahhmen, so it's different

[@almond3066]

@@inky5574 Tim needs to stick with comedies because that seems to be all he's good at

[@nilspetterfjre9462]

Someone should send a terminator back in time to prevent this movie from being made.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

You do it.

[@tajanstvenikamerman3860]

Agree

[@jimmyjordan8403]

@@AZ-rg3rf for some reason i read your comment with Arnies voice 😂

[@AZ-rg3rf]

@@jimmyjordan8403 I typed it in Arnold's voice 🤖😎

[@EvilDeadthe2nd]

This is a good idea for a south Park Episode 😅

[@CaptainDope]

A few people in the audience walked out after this scene. I almost did too.

[@anakinskywalker2061]

I saw this with my friends and we really liked the Terminator movies until this came outta no where so we got out of there and snuck inside to another movie

[@megas13proto]

Why didn't you? You could have gotten your money back

[@joshuawillis602]

You’re all acting silly

[@PrinceFloof]

A smart choice, not that I blame you or anything but you should've left XD

[@iamnotkyle7248]

Now everybody wishes that the terminator could just throw John Connor around instead of shooting him.

[@lighthousephotography3287]

Miles Dyson: I blew myself up for this?!

[@alco1414]

Top Comment! 😅

[@tavellclinton9256]

Lol!

[@patrickgogan3517]

Sad

[@anshulkarkera8911]

At least he made a better cyborg in Zack Snyder's Justice League

[@TheRealBamboonga]

BLOWN UP FO WUT!?!?1?

[@jordankrzywicki9412]

“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.” John did both between Dark Fate and Genysis

[@bloomblock2768]

Both where shitty movies, specially Dark Fate.

[@roam980]

and neither of them were particularly good

[@FalconFlyer75]

So did James Cameron

[@orangecitrus8056]

They destroyed John Connor

[@septagram9491]

@@bloomblock2768 ​I enjoyed the plot twist in Genysis, but its just me I guess. John becoming the bad guy was playing with the elements of an existing story. I thought it might not even be a permanant change for the next film. Genysis also didn't try to make a new robot type like in T3 and Dark fate, the liquid one in T2 was the last creative invention by the writers. We also got to see the time machine in action, when Matt Smith grabbed John Connor, I knew that this film was going to be my second favorite one after T2. Dark fate tried to reboot the franchise with new characters, the T-800 and Sarah Connor were there just to keep a continuity with the previous films. Without it being a proper Terminator film, Dark Fate wouldn't be succesful in the box office. There wasn't a positive mood like in Genysis (I almost cried in T2 when Arnold died, I would definitely cry if he died again in Genysis) or the epic distopia of skeleton robots with human teeth stepping on the remains of humans. The first half of the film was in spanish, forcing me to read subtitles. The automative sector of Mexico felt more bollywood compared to the computer sector of the silicon walley. And they showed a scene of Sarah Conner in the mental hospital at the beginning of the film like the new matrix movies, like, they can understand which scenes make a good movie, but can't do justice to them.

[@clank7298]

Terminator 2: We gotta save John, he’s important for our future. Terminator Dark Fate: Bye, John. You’re not important anymore.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

Hahahahahahaha

[@AAAA-lt9hq]

The dilution started earlier than that. James Cameron found out that: 1) Alien: horror movie. so 2) Aliens: action movie. So: T1: horror movie. T2: action movie.

[@karnasingh860]

@@AAAA-lt9hq Both are good movies

[@JCISMYSAVIOR4EVR]

That's not what happened. The terminator that saved john was different than the one who killed him

[@clank7298]

@@JCISMYSAVIOR4EVR I know it’s a different one. I’m talking about the movie director’s perspective how before John was the key to the future’s salvation, but then now it’s like; “Welp… guess John isn’t the savior then.”

[@MetalArrow]

Story of Dark Fate makes T3 look like a flawless masterpiece.

[@Tinseltopia]

I really love T3, it really doesn't get enough respect. I even love the John from it, I hated the war hardened John of Salvation

[@orangecitrus8056]

T3 had flaws but nothing like this

[@mcmerry2846]

@@Tinseltopia T3 was good

[@Aivottaja]

T3 was okay. It's biggest flaw was trying to be T2.5. But out of all the sequels after T2, it's the best.

[@mosthated.e.2422]

T3 over this any day

[@MusicInMe754]

It amazes me how this one scene instantly undoes one of the greatest sequels ever made. Like, why the hell would you want to ruin/destroy the relationship between T2's John Connor and the T-800?!

[@Tempusverum]

Because Hollywood never cared about the money. It’s about sending a message 🖕 Well, two can play at that game

[@botchedoperations3485]

Well T3 had this same concept. Only that John is terminated by a t800 in the future. He said it was for his experiences as a kid that made him lower his guard, I mean if the war kept getting pushed back, that won’t stop John from aging. He would in turn have a less participation after every change the good guys did in the pass. Hence effectively making him more irrelevant in the future. They want a quick transition to the new hero and it backfire.

[@videogameguy101]

@@Tempusverum Hm, I think you got that backwards, Doc.

[@Tempusverum]

@@videogameguy101 I’m not your doc

[@SparrowNoblePoland]

Because Cameron never wanted to make any more Terminator movies after T2, but Hollywood didn't listen to him. So eventually he returned to drown the series once and for all. I would have done the same if people didn't listen that there should be no more sequels to my work.

[@ethan8804]

Don’t let this scene detract from the experience that is T2.

[@AZVIDE0Z]

Dark Fate isn't canon. Don't give these bastards the pleasure

[@Facade953]

Agreed. To me, Woke Fate NEVER happened!

[@gialactusfighterzpsn7527]

@@AZVIDE0Z really Is not canon? Any official news about this? I hope so

[@Ihavehadmanynames7779]

Dark fate is obviously fan fic come on now

[@ganados0]

Buh buh but it RAPED my childhood!

[@dragonlord1997]

I remember some dude yelled out “Garbage” after we walked out of the theater finishing this movie

[@hughconway5318]

Flawless! Whoever de-aged these three actors should have been used to de-age Mark Hamill.

[@tristanrodriguez4880]

Mandalorian cg was pretty good, slight uncanny valley but nice

[@djmateosegade3974]

Also these didnt have to talk... that’s where the hard part comes in.

[@NeelTheSphynx]

Actually it's not even deaged. It's fully CG. Fully passes over the uncanny valley for me even on my phone which usually wrecks CG and makes it look like a video game. Extremely impressive.

[@CylonLab]

It really does just look like this was an alternate ending to T2 that James Cameron never told anyone about.

[@wrinkledinkle3020]

@@tristanrodriguez4880 it was good enough for me

[@jarrodsimpson2329]

This is some of the best cgi I’ve ever seen. They should have just made a direct sequel to two.

[@PsychoKillertheGame]

It doesn't make up for all the ropey shitty cgi we have been forced to suffer thru the years.

[@alco1414]

Even some of the scenes in this movie the cgi was trash! But I agree, this scene was excellent.

[@hankhill2254]

Pretty sure they used deep fakes not cgi to make them young

[@RebSike]

@@hankhill2254 it wasn't a deepfake.

[@jujubank3176]

I doubt they would've had the time or budget to make it look this good all the way through though.

[@LahLahMan]

This one scene was the OFFICIAL nail on the entire franchise coffin. Props to the brilliant writer who came up with this one.

[@streetrat48]

You can thank: James Cameron Charles Eglee Josh Friedman David Goyer and Justin Rhodes Who all wrote this film. Too many cooks in the kitchen makes for a shit stew.

[@canadianmapleleaf7376]

One of the biggest abominations in cinematic history

[@mcmerry2846]

@@canadianmapleleaf7376 why? is a great scene

[@MrDICKHEAD28]

AFTER KILLING JOHN CONNER THE TERMINATOR HAD A PINA COLADA AND A TAN AT THE BEACH AND CHILLED FOR THE NEXT 120 YEARS

[@misterbobby8913]

Whoever did this deserves a few eggs thrown at their doors

[@brandenmanuel2037]

In the theater, I literally almost walked out. Saying “I’m done, I’m f***ing done.”

[@armorpro573]

Don't blame you

[@CamCam-mq6ji]

I'm mad at Cameron for this

[@LuckyRabbit234]

John: C’mon, man! We can work this out! T-800: It’s either this, or Genisys. John: … Kill me.

[@ice-zero4389]

U killed me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@neroidius6915]

John: *realizes “this” is dark fate* WAIT, YOU DON’T HAVE TO-(gunshot)

[@darthcarth27]

How about neither

[@maceface2892]

@@darthcarth27 seriously. Should've ended after T2, though I really liked Salvation

[@johnf.walker6406]

@@maceface2892 if I'd rank mine it would be: T2 T1 T-salvation TSCC T3 forget the rest

[@adrianrammirez]

I remember seeing this and people walked out after this. Once it was at the point where Dani was the new John more people walked out.

[@armorpro573]

@Jase I knew this movie was going to bomb, but I still tortured myself to watch it. And I wasn't surprised

[@NathanDraxter]

That’s ridiculous, they have had strong woman in big franchises since ever, no need to woke 100% of the movie

[@DrMcFly28]

Too late, they already paid for the ticket.

[@Josh-fp2qn]

People in Hollywood hate men and worship women.

[@iamironman978]

​@@NathanDraxter google what woke means, dont use it like how Fox news uses it. You missed the point of the first 2 terminators, yes john is the savior, sarah is the mother of said savior. Without her he never exists. Its just as important to have her as it is to have him. No better , no less. And lesbihonest, its the Connor lineage that leads or aids into humanity survival

[@Varkline]

WTF!?!?!?!? This movie just took a crap on terminator 2 one of the best movies ever!!! The entire point of 2 was to protect that kid

[@andrewalejo918]

Ikr I literally just watched the and I’m like wtf did I just see

[@Ur2ez4me81]

I still haven’t watched this movie yet. Fans of T2 should just act like this never happened…

[@PrinceFloof]

I hate this movie

[@PrinceFloof]

@The Cool show There were more movie's that were good you know? Of course can't say the same these day's

[@iamnotkyle7248]

Now everybody wishes that the terminator could just throw John Connor around instead of shooting him.

[@matthewboenker5802]

this is one of those rare times when you literally click on a video just for the comments lol

[@SuperKamiGuru-i3c]

Bold to start the movie with the biggest middle finger in the series history. Still, the de-aging CGI is good. Impressive even.

[@Jebu911]

I think its a good scene but should have been in totally different context. I like how this terminator is more T1 style and he just tries to shoot at john and doesn't fuck around.

[@mast3rchief536]

People keep saying that but it hardly makes up for a shite movie. Look at the CGI for T2, that was groundbreaking and paved the way for the CGI of today.

[@JeremiahEcks777]

Bold... or foolish?

[@aft5264]

Love how Arnie just starts walking towards the ocean. Tf he gonna do swim away?

[@SuperKamiGuru-i3c]

@@aft5264 He's standing there thinking "...I should get a dog"

[@RyanSellman1]

Uncle Bob: So I lowered myself into the molten steel for nothing???

[@tavellclinton9256]

Hahaha?

[@TheRealBamboonga]

Uncle Anakin: Don't knock it until you tr...actually no, being lowered into molten steel REALLY sucks.

[@erickleefeld4883]

He lowered himself into the molten steel to ensure that Skynet would never happen.

[@SparrowNoblePoland]

@@erickleefeld4883 Plus he was dying anyway. He was bent so badly he couldn't even stand up on his own, and his power source was detroyed.

[@trevinodude]

@@erickleefeld4883 But it still ended up being meaningless due to this movie. Skynet basically got renamed and some chick became new John Connor… that’s the major problem of this movie. The future is basically doomed no matter how many Skynets or Legions or whatever they call them next will always rise and John Connor can literally be any smuck, this time being a woman. If that’s the case, then everything John, Sarah, and Uncle Bob did was basically for nothing. That’s actually the problem of basically every sequel after T2… it makes T2 and T1 useless movies.

[@professorrowan6945]

The T-800 didn’t just kill John Connor. It killed the franchise.

[@Martmij07]

Get glasses

[@brunomgpinto]

@@Martmij07 Is he talking lies?? As soon as I watched this scene, I didn't even bother to watch the rest of the movie! And I swear this is true. If you watch T2 and then watch this, you'll be like "what was the point of having T2 then"??

[@brianwalters7855]

The T-800: (to the entire franchise) "You are TERMINATED."

[@JoeTricep]

When a griefer joins the game lobby

[@Jonah123_Iliketrees]

Dw dark fate isn’t canon

[@bendover2649]

How did the Terminator find them? The first two movies go to a lot of trouble explaining exactly how terminators are able to track down their targets, usually by finding their known address and then following clues to their whereabouts. When they reach the desert in T2 there's basically no way the T-1000 can find them, not until Sarah goes after Dyson. Yet here we have Sarah and John laying low in Guatemala, still on the move and still being cautious even though the threat is apparently gone, just in case, but somehow a Terminator materialises out of nowhere and kills John, just like that? And this is from the timeline where Cyberdyne was blown up and Skynet no longer exists, so who sent the Terminator back and why? Who wrote this garbage?

[@NecroK47]

this film does not exist, for me.

[@kylephantom4]

They explained the Terminator was sent back before they changed anything.

[@neat3468]

Even if it's not John Connor, kinda shocking having a boy shot and killed in a film. If they employed a director and said "Please make a movie that will piss off the fanbase as much as possible and please kill this franchise", then we can say this person did a great job. I also think it's stupid that (even in this film) Sarah becomes a Terminator killer. Like how many times can you "send 2 people back in time just before skynet explodes". At this rate going back in time is a fucking train route that everyone has access to..

[@superjackster0165]

Let's not forget the other plot hole. So after this T-800 killed John, he lived a normal life in society. He changed his name to Carl, had a wife and a kid (although their relationship wasn’t physical), and even started his own drapery business. That is completely impossible. Due to his likeness to the previous T-800’s, Carl would be easily recognized and wanted by authorities for murdering John Connor in 1998, destroying Skynet in 1995, and killing 30 LAPD officers in 1984 (all with multiple witnesses). He would not be able to own and operate a drapery business.

[@neat3468]

@@superjackster0165 Let's also not forget Kyle Reese's famous line about it never stopping. Like once it's done its mission, it should be nothing, or shut down. The T800 in T2 was trained by John Connor to be more human, but in this, it just magically becomes a family man out of thin air... Like it's a programmed killer, a machine. It's not gonna get bored and start a new life, like this film decides it will. I know in the film they say it wasn't a physical and sure it ain't his kid. But that's a poor explanation, I mean no touching wouldn't mean you would never ever ever ever not touch someone. I mean the T800, is it just gonna pretend to be asleep, pretend to have a shower, pretend to suffer from mood swings. If I was that women not wanting to touch EVER and not wanting sex at all. I mean sure at a stretch she might never have touched, but are you gonna say that about the kid? I mean in T2, John Connor pokes the terminator after it saves him, that's his literal instant evidence that it wasn't a guy and a machine. Yeah, stupid film honestly.

[@SheldonAdama17]

“I feel like I’m gonna throw up” - Miles Dyson

[@Shadow-br4qx]

"I abandoned my life in the future for this" - Kyle Reese

[@tomboysupremacist]

arnold looked fresh as fuck in this scene ngl

[@betterthanyourname2391]

Becuz they looked around the world to find a guy that was close to huge an built as arnold was to that time period. All they had to to was cgi the face. Same thing with the boy. Thats why it looked so good. If only the rest of the movie was as good or we had more flashbacks.

[@tomboysupremacist]

@@betterthanyourname2391 arnold was much more built than this guy back in the 80s when T1 was filmed. the new actors body is pretty average at the gym, but he's more cut than arnold and the tight shirt with the hair and glasses make him look badass

[@newginslab6993]

@@tomboysupremacist 1980s Arnold was a freaking tank

[@PrinceFloof]

@@newginslab6993 His pecks were bigger compared to the later movie's

[@EpicGamer-dk1tp]

They just got a sketchfab model of duke nukem and gave it sunglasses

[@henrikr7445]

This could’ve been a fantastic Sarah Connor nightmare scene in a completely different Terminator film altogether.

[@LandersWorkshop]

My thoughts exactly. Or Skynet planning it in some VR simulation.

[@CamCam-mq6ji]

This VR idea is literally the only way to save the franchise after this abomination of a scene

[@morgan79737]

Biggest insult in movie history.

[@KenMasters.]

On the same low level as The Last of Us Part II.

[@LukeLovesRose]

What The Last Jedi did with Luke Skywalker comes close

[@JoJowitMojo]

Can someone explain wtf is going on

[@louise1291]

There is no terminator without John Connor in the series .

[@tankeater]

Soooooo... you're saying T1 just doesn't exist? I get what you're TRYING to say, but, don't forget the beginning.

[@hotshrek365]

who's Arnold Schwarzenegger to u then

[@xvaughanx]

​@@tankeaterJohn is in T1 (technically) he sends Kyle back to hook up with his mum

[@ahacks7692]

​@@tankeaterthe whole point of T1 was saving Sarah Connor, so John could exist

[@tellyflavorr9917]

I would say sarah and john

[@tylerfitz2587]

I turned this movie off the second this happened. Not only does this kill the franchise but it also makes the events of the first two movies irrelevant which are two of the best movies of all time. For me T2 was the last movie in the franchise since it was supposed to be the end of the terminator saga and it had a fitting ending

[@shannondemers1490]

They should of end it with salvation.

[@tylerfitz2587]

@shannondemers I kinda but don’t agree I think salvation would fit in an alternate timeline but James Cameron intended for the series to end with judgement day prevented and John Connor going on to live a normal life. That is why the t800 lower himself into lava to prevent judgement day from ever happening. Thus ending the franchise

[@tiancsb]

It doesn't make them irrelevant though. Skynet (due to become self-aware in 1997) was in fact prevented in 1995. Too bad future-skynet ended up sending a T-800 to 1998 lol.

[@nsmilitia]

Sky net was inevitable, because AI is inevitable. These were machines that were sent back between the first movie and before sky net was blown up. Since AI is inevitable, legion grew into what sky net was going to become, since sky net company is gone. Killing John Connor only gave Sarah the motive to destroy all machines sent back. The transition from 2 to dark fate was actually good since it followed the same timeline . Just the future was changed. What this movie really needed was the soundtrack artist from the first 2 and a little more horror setting like the first movie.

[@godzillavkk]

T2 was just T1 but shinier.

[@pain4552]

They literally replaced John Connor just because he was the male protagonist of the future. So they decided to replace him with a female protagonist.

[@integalactic5nomadium]

No they replaced him because the actor started doing heroine

[@amerwalker5655]

@@integalactic5nomadium which of them all?

[@integalactic5nomadium]

@@amerwalker5655 Edward furlong

[@KBoon]

And also replaced Skynet with Legion because...reasons

[@johnycraft7665]

Kinda stupid when u realised that its not terminator anymore and more like dark fate the movie

[@PowerGlove79]

It’s like this scene was telling us “Go on, we DARE you to stay in the theater after this”

[@Dorne_is_the_GOAT]

James Cameron: Alien 3 killed my characters!!! Also James Cameron: John Connor goes BLAM BLAM!!!

[@godzillavkk]

That wasn't his choice.

[@emanuelcr7207]

@@godzillavkk it was indeed HIS (James Cameron'S) choice.

[@godzillavkk]

@@emanuelcr7207 Still, I don't really care. One Terminator movie was enough.

[@godzillavkk]

@KK It was the same as the first movie, just shinier.

[@_tonyvera]

@@godzillavkk and better !

[@SirLightsOut99]

I have never seen T2 but even I can tell you that killing off John Connor within the first few minutes of the one film that could've probably saved the Terminator franchise was literally the absolute worst idea.

[@cymes82]

You should definitely watch T2. It's way better than this crap.

[@taylorpack7705]

T2 is the best one

[@therealmistahjay]

You’ve seen T2. Stop lying.

[@xandermills9499]

@@taylorpack7705 2nd best

[@Kapojos]

@@xandermills9499 first is the best!

[@skinvian]

I was working the box office at my local theatre when this movie premiered. I’ve never seen so many people walk out of any movie in my 4 years at that job. When I went on my off day to see this movie, I immediately understood why Way to kill a fucking franchise in 2 minutes

[@LandersWorkshop]

Wow, I'm not fully surprised but still that is a shock.

[@serwinzzalot9989]

Theater employees are treated to an advance screening.. how did you miss that?

[@Lucasfan375]

How many left all together?

[@SCP-Dr_Bright]

@@serwinzzalot9989 i worked in a movie theater, not all of them do that.

[@chewbaccachewi7837]

Right there the Terminator terminates his own Franchise

[@DoctorChained]

Of course. He's a terminator.

[@thehorrornoobs5481]

I just got done rewatching the ending scene from T2 and as per usual I cried my eyes out…To think this happened soon after that ending is nothing short of tragic and devastating for all the wrong reasons.

[@theearlofgrantham9816]

I simply don't consider this scene to be cannon. The franchise end's at T2.

[@TheSundayShooter]

T2 "alternate ending" is the canon ending

[@TheSinlessAssassin]

@@theearlofgrantham9816 To me it ends at Terminator Salvation. I know people have their gripes with that one and Rise of the Machines, but at least those two didn't undo the legacy the first two films established.

[@WingsofHistory]

@@TheSinlessAssassini feel the exact same way, preach.

[@billywashere6965]

Agreed. I had major issues with the major plotholes in T3 and T4: Salvation, but at least they respected the lore.@@TheSinlessAssassin

[@dominicmanriquez1645]

its crazy how young they made edward look

[@philliplandry4139]

I know. It's like going back in 1991 all over again.

[@ryanrobertson7218]

Well that was easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@FistedClown]

Aye I get the reference

[@TheRealBamboonga]

Oh, *REALLY?*

[@iblazer7382]

Ryan gorge references are TIGHT

[@iamnotkyle7248]

Now everybody wishes that the terminator threw John Connor around instead of shooting him.

[@pelgervampireduck]

going bang bang on kids is tight!

[@frustratedyouth4530]

This scene is the perfect example of "how to destroy the entire franchise" in just 1 minute..🤧🤧

[@johnhenningfield4360]

"They went on vacation enjoying themselves and forgot one small detail...they forgot the German Shepherd 🐕"

[@TheRealBamboonga]

Nah they didn't forget him. They buried him next to Spot and Balzak.

[@johnhenningfield4360]

@@TheRealBamboonga "LOL 👍, unbelievable the writers left it out that the German Shepherds sniffed out the Terminators like the fans are idiots, they left Connor no line of defense and killed him in 5 minutes"

[@TheDarkarrow7]

He was killed by the T-1000

[@kungfufilm6367]

@@TheDarkarrow7 In a deleted scene from the Special Edition. The theatrical cut doesn't tell us.

[@emeraldo]

So many people walked out of my theater when this scene came on.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

WTF? like they simply went home?

[@vanguard6498]

@@AZ-rg3rf Thats what that means yes.

[@thedestroyer2alltrolls411]

@@AZ-rg3rf Don’t act surprised.

[@AZ-rg3rf]

@@thedestroyer2alltrolls411 nobody is acting.

[@exoticoutrunner4404]

It’s actually sad that he died cause he was basically the one in every movie

[@thesamurialianderp2937]

He was the main character in literally every movie I guess

[@exoticoutrunner4404]

he was it’s just their was different actors of him

[@ticoliro3392]

It bc they needed a women now

[@thesamurialianderp2937]

@@ticoliro3392 well that does make sense but that still doesn’t show the fact that they killed the charecter that was the chosen one

[@ticoliro3392]

@@thesamurialianderp2937 i not defending the movie, this movie got reed of john corner just to put a girl on his place

[@aft5264]

Took my girlfriend to see this movie and we walked out right after this scene

[@TonyDrecaps]

Good. This movie was terrible

[@ThePrblmKd91Xx]

I nailed her after that too, my guy.

[@Drummerstik]

This, right here, is why the series should have ended with the second one.

[@thatperformer3879]

Blame James Cameron for not standing up to the studio and putting the alternate deleted ending into the T2 Theatrical release which would’ve stopped any sequels from occurring.

[@gamercr1s]

When I first saw T-800 come on screen I was like “-happy gasp- it’s a reunion!” When he pulled out the gun “-shocked- its not a reunion-

[@hellfighter496]

do you think that was Johns first thought before the gun came out?

[@gamercr1s]

@@hellfighter496 probably

[@inky5574]

@@hellfighter496 "You're alive?! :D" *takes out gun and points* "Wait... What're yo-"

[@iamnotkyle7248]

Now everybody wishes that the terminator could just throw John Connor around instead of shooting him.

[@DoctorChained]

@@iamnotkyle7248 That's only when the character has plot armor that the terminator decides only to toss them around rather than break their throat in a fraction of a second.

[@yeeluvspizza]

John Connor is the future leader of the human resistance. Fuck this movie.

[@patricksleep9787]

This scene was basically a giant middle finger to me, one of the most infuriating things that ever happened in my life.

[@McFlurry-OREO1]

After T2, Eddie didn't live Fur Long!!

[@samsum4525]

Say,That's a Nice Pun!

[@GTA5Player1]

You know, if Uncle Bob was still around, maybe he could have reacted in time

[@christopherbuckley5929]

How to piss off an audience 5 minutes into your film

[@reginvfvlvnge]

They managed to destroy my entire childhood, sanity and first love in 5 minutes, why? Why? Why why why why why

[@roberttreacy8271]

It was time for Thomas to leave. He had seen everything.

[@punk5585]

Thomas had never seen such bullshit*

[@TheRealBamboonga]

@@punk5585 Sparkle, sparkle, sparkle!!!

[@J_C_CH]

Despite the flaws of this scene and the film overall, I’m gonna give credit to Carl for being the *only* Terminator to successfully terminate its primary target.

[@WarriorBoy]

*only one to kill John Connor. If you watch the original, they show a Terminator racking up kills in the human underground base, and it's implied that the T-800s and previous models were very deadly. The ones we see sent to the past to kill John and Sarah? Yeah not so much

[@kungfufilm6367]

@@WarriorBoy The Terminator in the human base is the same model as the one sent to kill Sarah. The only difference is appearance. He caught them off guard, which is why it was able to kill so many in a short period.

[@crimsongogeta6810]

There’s also the T-850 in Rise of the Machines that outright states it killed Future John Connor before he was reprogrammed and sent back to protect Present John and Kathrine Brewster in preparation for J-Day 2003.

[@Cookieboy70]

@@WarriorBoy Those terminators were packing some intense advanced weaponry. They ones sent to the past didn't have access to any of that. But keep in mind, it still racked up kills in the police station.

[@evernevermore-ci2so]

Such a slap in the face to Sarah. And the fans. Everything she has suffered through became completely pointless. The movie was ok, I guess. Better than what we were getting. But killing John is near unforgivable.

[@pelgervampireduck]

more or less like what happened to Star Wars. Everything Anakin and Luke went through was for nothing and invalidated when Disney chose to bring back the emperor.

[@Tempusverum]

I think it’s pretty clear what message Hollywood is sending to their fans: 🖕

[@thekingofra5063]

​@@pelgervampireduckagreed 100%

[@jaycahuenga6416]

I had to revisit this cause in this movie John Connor was done very dirty. Dani in this movie was WHACK AF. They need to reset this time and retcon this and just say JC getting k-ll'd was a nightmare and Dani just didn't exist.😶

[@kuroroluxifer8321]

the only good thing about this scene is the impressive cgi work to recreate the actors almost exactly the same way they looked over 30 years ago.

[@armorpro573]

Yeah only impressive thing in this entire movie

[@KenMasters.]

If only this was also done for Terminator Genisys, there were way too many miscasts in the 5th film.

[@warrenlewis4349]

For a brief moment, it almost felt like it was 1991 again.

[@joshlight6892]

In a way, that almost made it worse. Because it made the destruction feel even more real.

[@RickeGnool]

I consider this to be a 1 minute and 20 seconds long tutorial video on how to succesfully kill a franchise.

[@mr_man-to7bv]

How to kill a franchise in 1 minute: Use time machine Go back in time Kill the main character Receive backlash Milk the franchise

[@ericwilliams1832]

Why? Its good imo? Its a way for the franchise to go beyond john Connor and bring new enticing characters. personally I prefer Dark fate over T2: Judgement day so Connor’s death doesnt bother me

[@schmittza]

@@ericwilliams1832 LOL

[@lemurboi723]

@@ericwilliams1832 the hell did i just read?

[@britannicus8267]

@@ericwilliams1832 Do you think generic hispanic character is ever going to receive loyalty from characters like Kyle Reese and believably teach them how to "storm the wires and taught us how to turn those metal motherfuckers in to junk"? Yeah sorry i don't.

[@tyrkuclub6398]

What makes this scene so upsetting is that John was killed by someone he trusted with a lot of his heart

[@mcmerry2846]

Not

[@Sputz3]

No he wasn’t. The terminator he trusted was melted in T2.

[@SanFranDentist94301]

It's not the same "dog".

[@SinarBaru-bp4jx]

Almost a father figure

[@johnf.walker6406]

Uncle bob and Kyle Reese in the sky seeing john getting shot : " you know how much we've sacrifice! "

[@Jejking]

Haha nice meem

[@simoncox9689]

the moment everyone walked out of the movies

[@Dblock8998]

An absolute franchise destroying scene, WHO THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?!

[@blueroninstudios]

James Cameron, apparently.

[@EyesSewnShut]

Women

[@T-Terminator-sj3pl]

James Cameron brought the franchise into the world I suppose he has the right to take it out of the world.

[@breadbutcooler]

how did it destroy the franchise, it’s not like it’s part of the main timeline, all they did was essentially begin a spin off

[@Slackow]

@Drey's Games please shut up "ThEy OnLy KiLlEd HiM BeCaUsE hE's WhItE" is the stupidest thing I've read all day.

[@XeniusChannel]

The CGI and VFX is freaking incredible!!!!!! :O

[@h.e.c.uagent834]

No

[@__________________________2]

But the script are trash

[@PredatorPeyami]

Nope, arnolds arms was too thin

[@kungfufilm6367]

@@PredatorPeyami That's because it's an actual guy, not CGI. The only GGI is the face. You're criticizing the wrong thing.

[@gregthebunny5357]

​@@kungfufilm6367 All of John Connor from head to toe was CGI. Arnold Schwarzenegger whole head and arms Are CGI. Sarah Connors whole head, torso and waist are all CGI.

[@thomas489]

T-1000 and T-X: "What?! That obsolete model did the job within a few seconds?!" feeling so ashamed, they destroy themselves.

[@jackloveall7672]

Linda Hamilton warned Cameron this was not a smart move, and the fan base wouldn't like it. I know it was a game changer, for sure, but the whole thing was John Connor was suppose to be humanity's last best hope against the machines.

[@nicholasburton1474]

Lol I remember when half the cinema got up and left after this scene. It was hilarious

[@Tempusverum]

They should’ve all walked out. Modern Hollywood deserves harsher criticism

[@jaycahuenga6416]

I bet it was now that image is put in my head. It's just chairs 😁

[@shamusbob7969]

You're such a liar. Stop lying on the internet.

[@TonyDrecaps]

As they should

[@AAvfx]

I'm still confused about the alternate timeline theory. Every time I watch a movie where things are changed, I'm puzzled about this conflict. 1 timeline to rule them all, or alternate realities. Can't decide.

[@elderdiaz-garcia1779]

I think they Skynet sent multiple Terminators through out time, I think its 3, could be wrong about that, but they must have sent this one "first" and then they sent the one from The Terminator and another one in Terminator 2: Judgement Day, I could be wrong about that tho

[@burnercolt6647]

Don't bother. The story ended with T2. The rest is a meaningless cash grab feminist brainwashing. 2 cents I should keep in my pocket because it's not worth it.

[@pelgervampireduck]

t1 and t2 are perfect. you can ignore the rest. 3 was kinda ok ish when it came out as a fun popcorn movie, but not as good as 1 and 2. salvation was boring. genisys was a mess, they tried to do a soft reboot and screwed it up. this is insulting. this is malicious, this is cultural vandalism.

[@botchedoperations3485]

Well genesis is a big mess. Since supposedly it is Sarah and Kyle and the t800 that end skynet. If they hook up after the movie then John would still need to exist and now we would have two Kyle Reese in the same timeline? It’s sarah the one that tells young john that “genesis is skynet” Now this movie seems to get even more complicated. Since this terminator actually finished his mission and just decided to keep on existing and became self aware but based on T2. They would have to access his chip and turn the switch. And then we get this weird situation with the t800 and Sarah “Hey, sorry for killing your son. We good right? Yeah… we good 😊. So…..I magically know when terminators are getting sent back and will help you find them so you have a new hobby in your life that could keep you occupied so you don’t think of John

[@botchedoperations3485]

And also they ripped of the idea of this movie from family guy since it was Peter griffins idea with a jaws sequel “We will have the events from the first take place again, but now it will be the humans, jaws and bigger jaws. Now that bigger jaws came in the picture, humans and jaws need to team up to take on this new threat. Skynet(t800) and the robot lady(I don’t know) vs legion🤣🤣🤣

[@muhammadshaffin2916]

This terminator should get a reward, he did what every terminator failed to do.

[@blackbirdfilms1966]

The ones programed to kill that is

[@newhybrid101]

The T 850 from T3 killed an adult John Connor

[@iamjerrywilliams]

@@newhybrid101was just about to say that lol hell even skynet itself in genisys did it too in the beginning as well

[@MrCouchmen]

@@newhybrid101 He was selected because of emotional attachment John felt to his model number due to his boyhood experience. That helped him in his infiltration.

[@johnhorne3052]

Kill the franchise?

[@alexandrealves308c]

Yeah guys, feminism killed John Connor. His only mistake was being The Chosen One.

[@alexandrealves308c]

"Hurray guys, let's give more importance to girl power" but like, you don't have to fuck with the male characters for that, honey.

[@anthonymontes7454]

......well at least the Terminator got that vacation he needed, I guess.

[@bregowine]

Hard to believe Cameron gave a blessing to this gaffe

[@superjackster0165]

Killing John was his idea

[@masamune2984]

@@superjackster0165That’s exactly what they said.

[@Horrormaster13]

@bregowine Cameron also gave his blessing to Genisys. He doesn't care about this Franchise.

[@thatperformer3879]

This ain’t James Cameron, it’s the T-1000 impersonating James lol.

[@volerasphere]

I wonder how many people left the theater and demanded their money back after this scene.

[@turkmagidoo2732]

How could James Cameron let this to happen????? Damaging the story of t1 and t2

[@superjackster0165]

He's the one who conceived the idea

[@mast3rchief536]

I remember seeing this scene in theatre and being like "well this has just immediately killed my confidence in this movie".

[@superjackster0165]

Same!!! How did James Cameron possibly think this was a good idea?

[@bowens9869]

@@superjackster0165 Tim miller lol.

[@superjackster0165]

@@bowens9869 Actually, killing John was all James Cameron’s idea. Tim had nothing to do with that decision

[@bowens9869]

@@superjackster0165 nah it was Tim idea since he talked not believing "a chosen one" in films lol

[@superjackster0165]

@@bowens9869 Look it up. James Cameron came up with the idea to kill John. Tim is only the director of this film. He wasn’t involved with the writing of it

[@Steveman27]

I always wondered what a terminator would do after it would complete it's mission, like would it just self-destruct or just go about aimlessly until it wears off on its own. This scene didn't answer that question.

[@ETH5626]

It was stated later on that through learning, however, it became self-aware. During that time, it learned from humanity and developed a conscience, taking the name "Carl" and adopting a human family. It also lives in Laredo, Texas and owns a drapery business.

[@lolstalgic9602]

@@ETH5626 I hope you’re joking but at the same time, I wouldn’t be surprised

[@lyeyeruyass5809]

@@lolstalgic9602 watch the movie this terminator ends up helping Sarah later after gaining sentience

[@Ihavehadmanynames7779]

@@ETH5626 I actually like that concept just not this movie. Either that or they self destruct but t800 clearly said he can’t self destruct so i would assume they just live the rest of their robot life trying to blend in and doing robot things. Like standing in a t pose for hours, days who knows or maybe he’s a more social terminator and likes to study humans like he was doing over the course of t2

[@bipedalprimate1927]

He gonna look for some lava to jump into

[@bryanjosue4237]

One of the most infamous scenes in film history.

[@aaronsmith3484]

This scene was so well done the restoration is done phenomenally, imagine if it was utilised well and John wasn’t killed off to be replaced by hollywoods finest.

[@LaylaBrown-y7m]

congratulations to James Cameron for destroying one of his best sagas with just one shot

[@joshuawaldorf9559]

I'm still bitter about this film for killing Connor off and pushing radical feminism down our throats like Ghostbusters 2016.

[@crimsoncrusader518]

The moment everyone decided to immediatly get a refund.

[@calebkent6706]

0:49 the moment the franchise died

[@McFlurry-OREO1]

This basically made T2 pointless.

[@joshlight6892]

And T1 too for that matter

[@roybatty-]

These films don't exist. Only T1 and T2.

[@vankhorne]

"Hey, let's make the whole objective of the franchise pointless, we need more female protagonists."

[@Ur2ez4me81]

This franchise was over for me after T2…

[@sneshead3326]

They’ve done a great job with re creating these characters it was just a shame they didn’t use it for a better idea

[@MauricioJara]

And that’s how you make the first two movies in a series lose all their value.

[@tracker4980]

no. just this one lost its value.

[@bluekewne]

I don't care; I refuse to accept this shit as canon.

[@Imaginator99]

Me too!

[@MegaSheen15]

Aside from the saying, being a slap in the face of the franchise, it’s also heartbreaking. No parent should have to watch their child die.

[@vesumoda7428]

Dr. Peter Silberman : Relax buddy, you're just dreaming, it happens after trauma like this.

[@invisibleinkcinematic6900]

And this point their is no recovering for this. John Connor was the original, main and real protagonist of the entire terminator franchise. Whether he is just a child, a fallen hero or an unseen character, John is the true hero of its entire franchise. And just like that he is gone with just a couple gun shots. This scene not just disgusted fans it disgusted the cast to the point where john's previous actors admit that they hated what the directors did to their characters

[@Kronosdoesshit]

And this is why nobody trusts James Stinkron

[@VisionaryMedia24]

I'd say the 1st two Terminator movies are more about Sarah than anything else but yeah I agree with everything else

[@giuseppelibertino6714]

This just destroyed everything. And, Cameron was involved. As a life long Terminator fan, who saw the 1st one 5 times in the theater as a kid, this nonsensical absurdity made me I'll. The Terminator story boils down to a mother protecting her child, this movie pooped on everything.

[@Tor-Erik]

I just can't believe that this is cgi. Their Terminator 2 Judgement Day apperance is just flawless!