Terrible Autistic Teens? Can You Be Autistic & Not Know It Part 3

Lenny & Tom, our undiagnosed autists are now 13 and facing new challenges at school and at home. Parts 1 & 2 are linked below.
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[@Lavastaramus]

Poor Tom certainly isn't a simpleton. Too bad same cannot be said about his father.

[@BearingtonT]

I often wonder if parents like his are dealing with their own unconcious, internalised ableism. Such a strong reaction, makes me wonder if the dad had heard those things before about himself when he was a child. I think a lot of undiagnosed parents just repeat generational trauma unknowingly

[@richardiv385]

I really hope Lenny isn’t going to do to to himself what I think he might

[@lyrablack8621]

Hopefully not :c

[@babsstrijkert5365]

I feel like we need a 3rd perspective. This all is very relatable but still very 'boy goal' oriented. School, career. I feel like my troubles have been more interpersonal. I'd like a 'naive but smart girl' in the mix. Predatory behaviour, abusive boyfriend's in the teens and the lack of friends is really the hardest thing for me.

[@Autistamatic]

Hi Babs & thanks for commenting. If you watch the first part of this series the rationale for choosing these 2 boys for these particular stories is explained. I would like to see that 3rd perspective too - and quite a few others, but that's not my place to do. I'm always happy to collaborate with other creators to tell stories outside my own experience or frame of reference, but I think the impetus and the substance needs to come from those with first hand experience. In short - I'm happy to help those stories be told but the stories must come from those with direct experience and be aimed directly at those of us who will most benefit.

[@RaunienTheFirst]

You might enjoy Ponderful.

[@simcha7009]

These stories really hit home. Tom’s experiences with French (different language, almost identical experiences) and Kenny overhearing his parents’ conversation were particularly familiar.

[@why2goatdagame]

9:54… My Dad did this to me. He knew I had dyslexia cuz he does & didn’t want me being labeled. Although I think it was more self shame than fear. This story hurts in a deep way. I can’t even cry about it. It’s just weird to me. My parents have never made since to me. I have always had to figure out why they do as they do, but it still seems illogical in many areas. It confuses me cuz they’re both incredibly smart whilst still being incredibly irrational simultaneously.

[@linden5165]

School and parenting used to be so very toxic. Which is not to say it's perfect now but back then it was normal for it to be so tough - tough on everyone but for neurodivergent and/or disabled kids especially. Seeing my own children raised with better has been healing. I hope for even better for the next generations. I'm so curious now how life has been for these two people - fulfilling and safe eventually I hope!

[@AutisticBrain]

it sounds like Lenny is getting overwhelmed because he's engaging in something called stemming which is what we autistics do to calm ourselves down I feel sorry for Lenny at this moment 7:54

[@IM2OFU]

this is amazing. what story telling ability you have. my mind, body, emotions, spirit, consciousness and the no-thing in between inside me, are racing. thank you for helping our society. our global world. you are doing great. thank you so much. good luck forward. i want to help too : ) thanks again. see you soon. thank you. ps. borrowing partners channel to comment.

[@RaunienTheFirst]

I have to agree with Tom about the nature of writing stuff down, homework, and "proving" your knowledge

[@AJansenNL]

This format of stories really appeals to me. It gives me a lot of food for thought. I never had any conflict situations at school or at home. But I think that may be part of the problem why I've not been diagnosed. I just withdrew, flew under the radar.

[@LilChuunosuke]

Listening to Lenny's teachers filled me with rage. This poor kid was repeatedly being stabbed with metaphorical pitchforks from all sides and constantly being yelled at to "conform!" and "act normal!" while his pain was treated as insignificant. I'm very thankful to have always been extremely skilled at keeping my head down and being able to blend into the background all my life. In some ways, my limited speech abilities were a blessing I think. I already had a rough childhood acting like a ghost. I would not have survived Lenny's childhood. The way school, especially for teenagers, aggressively forces children into conformity and punishes them for their refusal or inability to comply fills me with rage. How many children's lives were ruined because the people who were supposed to be helping them grow punished them for being different? Thinking of those numbers and those fates make me sick. I'm glad I made it to the other side.

[@rogerrodgers6550]

several times I have had to pause the vlog to cope with my emotion this is like listening to my own secondary school nightmares the bullying from pupils and teachers alike has lain dormant in my subconscious for a very long time I couldn't wait to leave school at 16 thankyou for your exceptional storytelling..words fail me

[@Tazer_Silverscar]

"But until then... thank you Jimmy" X'D That just just cracked me up XD These sound really familiar. Sadly I didn't have a teacher who was willing to try see me through my classes as with Tom, but both of these sound pretty familiar. My parents were both pretty ignorant of my disability concerns, so I really didn't get anywhere with my school, even though I expressed quite strong passions in a number of fields (particularly in art, but my teacher was ignorant and was quite happy to allow me to drop out).

[@grrrrosey]

I got emotional listening to Lenny’s story. I feel so bad for everyone that goes through something similar and it reminds me of how miserable my school days were - especially the transition between primary and secondary

[@mariuszwisla3230]

I had a math teacher like Madam Frost, during 7th year of primary school (i'm from Poland, there is 8 year long primary school), she noticed my potential, previous math teachers claimed I must be cheating somehow, teachers of all other subjects claimed I'm hopeless, at the end of 8th year I participated in math olympics, ending up 3rd in my voivodship. It meant I could pick secondary school and had a guaranteed place without entry exams, I wouldn't pass polish literature

[@wetboy72]

Both these boys, describe my secondary school life. Thanks for posting.

[@MartKart8]

I had a cruel teacher at secondary school, very nasty to me, by the time I left IT was still at that school, I heard that teacher was nasty to other people, that IT would go as far as to lock people in the class room and just leave them inside, Where IT would go somewhere else, It got to the point they where planning on firing IT, IT found out and left before they had a chance to fire IT.

[@BearingtonT]

I'm sorry that happened to you. Never deserved.

[@kr3642]

I remember asking for loads of different chapstick flavors for Christmas as a kid 😅

[@why2goatdagame]

11:36 😂😂😂 YES 👍 Everyone smells! Yes y’all never stop making noise. Don’t y’all like quiet? I would like too but … IT DOESn’T Exist? 😂 I can here Jacob breathing while listening to the kids in the hallway discuss pizza 🍕 & dieing inside becuz the lights bulbs won’t shut up! 😂 Yes your laud and you smell! The room smells like 20 different things all at once with out people in it.

[@shiny6123]

I needed a teacher like that in middle schools and high school…but there weren’t any and unfortunately I just floated through school not learning much and falling through the cracks and eventually dropping out in 11 th grade. I just couldn’t bare it anymore. I’m 62 now and I definitely have ADHD and Autistic traits but my doctors won’t assess me because I don’t do a repetitive body movement… but sounds smells, social stuff and shutting down its all there but I appear too normal.

[@micheals1992]

Toms story is almost identical to my life 😅 I was terrible in school at everything but Science. Unfortunately because I was in the bottom group I had to do the Foundation test for science, I got 100% of the questions correct but because it was the foundation paper I got a C. I was classified as dyslexic in school which helped as i got to do my exams in a room alone. My science Teacher loved me and she even got me into a 6th form science lesson (with a different teacher) after begging to have extra science lessons, it didn't go well though, I absorbed everything at the start of the lession and then I froze and couldn't function when I realised I was going to have to group up with somebody to do an experiment. I feel bad for the person I was put with because I didn't know how to interact in a way to help him. I can imagine thats the reason why that was the only time I was allowed in a 6th form lesson. The teacher was probably disappointed in me?

[@rfishrfish4242]

Have you ever thought about writing books? I think that’s your next step. It would be awesome to read autistic book about what it feels like to be autistic, dyslexic person you have a gift away with words you become friends with people that listen to your words I would say you’re the greatest on KZbin I’m so happy I found you as a autistic person it’s hard to find good content from other autistic people. Very hard to watch most of the content out there. Thank you. You’re my number one in the top five.

[@mrsm6727]

Thank you for another great video!

[@BearingtonT]

A surprise Jimmy appearance is always excellent 😊 Thanks for another great vid Quinn

[@totonow6955]

I love Kenny and Tom.

[@andruhev1ch]

So triggering for me. How did he know what my childhood was?

[@ingridtouwslager]

The fourth video in this series is hidden. Too bad!!!!

[@Autistamatic]

Thanks for pointing it out. The video is there, but the link in the playlist was bad. Now rectified👍

[@ingridtouwslager]

Thanks so much! 🙏🏻

[@rfishrfish4242]

And after you write these books, you should read them tape yourself on video KZbin, reading your books you have a true gift

[@robscovell5951]

Where is Part 4?

[@Jennaswirly]

Interesting how both fathers you portray have a problem with their own narcissistic egos. “No son of mine” crap is all about how their child is an extension of them and how dad is living vicariously through the boys in terms of they should be ego stroking for dad by their performance and outcomes in life. For us ladies who fall into this often have mothers who are narcissistic in some way and in competition with us especially if they can’t relate to us as an extension of themselves. Sometimes fathers do this to their girls who are neurospicy too…but sadly the norm is that these girls are sexualized and are in the very least suffering emotional incest from the male in their life if not other kinds of abuse. I’d be curious if cluster b personality types of disorders run in the parents of neurospicy people more often than it is the exception to the norm.

[@robscovell5951]

I was called Tortoise.

[@turtleanton6539]

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[@turtleanton6539]

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