Terrible Dad Destroys Child's D&D Stuff ($3000 Worth)

Satanic panic goes hard. terrible dad goes harder.
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[@CritCrab]

everybody pretend you didnt see me mess up the title

[@definitelyarealperson248]

I’m blind since you told me to bleach my eyes in a previous video so I didn’t see anything

[@jaxusr235]

Hm……

[@id10tguy]

Yea totally

[@albertjohnson2061]

What do you mean? The title was never messed up. 😉

[@MazaAzi]

*p a n i c*

[@Jarethenator]

What a great way to guarantee that your child will, in fact, lose interest in your religion, never invite you back into their life or involve you in future family functions, and put you directly into the nursing home at their earliest convenience. Truly a remarkable example of self-sabotage and terrible parenting. I wish all the dad in this video a very never getting to see the grandkids.

[@deltagearadvanced5140]

Maybe too extreme on the not seeing grandkids part. he messed up big time but sabotaging your kids relationship with them is just as bad if not worse and will lead to you getting ostracized by your kids for denying them the ability to see them and you'll become the one your kids abandon and don't care about.

[@michaelautrey6641]

@@deltagearadvanced5140 no, not too extreme. his dad betrayed him in the such a terrible way and if i were this guy the second i could stand on my own two feet i would straight up tell him that that i was done with him,his church and all his shit church buddies. this game might be the thing that saved him and anyone with eyes in their heads should have been able to see that. his dad didnt care. his dad betrayed him knowing there could be irreversable consequences for it and he was proud of it. no grandkids for him.

[@Jarethenator]

@@deltagearadvanced5140 Nah. I think I'd spare my kids the trauma he'd cause them as their grandparent, thanks. Your narrative is an interesting one, but also seems to be under the impression that I wouldn't communicate with my children or allow them any of their own decision making. And, no, preventing a problematic relative from engaging with your family is not "just as bad if not worse" than what he did or the doctrine that he represents. The man has stated that he will have no remorse for what he did and that he sees no problem with it. As long as that is the case, then he wouldn't get any other access to the lives of any child of mine. If you want to subject your children to that same unrepentant, abusive treatment from a relative, you go ahead...but I don't think that'll have the happy ending you're hoping for.

[@crystaltriforce64]

@@deltagearadvanced5140 how is that extreame? if that's how he acts towards his kids, how is his son to think that he won't act that way towards his grandkids?

[@OverlordNightfly]

Yeah right. My parents are like this, and you're crazy if you think I'm paying to put them in a home.

[@utility63]

The dad wanted the pastor's approval more than he wanted his child's love. End of story.

[@Demicleas]

And in the end he still didint get the missionaries approval. I congratulate the missionary for having a sane mind.

[@Andi_Frost_XPR0PR18]

The real irony is that this exact behavior drives people away from religion.

[@mr.potatoes4892]

This is how you make your kids not go to your funeral

[@gehtkeinenwasan8087]

@@Andi_Frost_XPR0PR18 i do not think so... the best thing that drives people away from religion is... that its nonsense.... and education.

[@360entertainment2]

One of my old co workers was a youth pastor in the 90’s and actually invited D&D groups to the church. Of course the elders were up in arms but he was doing what they asked him, getting the youth in the church. Then he invited skateboarders to the church and the elders flipped their crap, but again he filled those seats. After they eventually got rid of him those kids left and the church went down to maybe 20 folks I think!

[@Demicleas]

God bless that pastor, Litteraly. Besides every church is a house of god that would mean any Demonic influence as if there was any would be canceled out.

[@Endar0]

I love how these elders forgot that Jesus went to those who were considered sinners during His time. These elders are the extermly closed-minded people that most Christians don't want to be associated with them.

[@thenx3952]

The complete lack of empathy in the name of "protecting the family" is something all too common and it infuriates me to no end. I mean what a great father he crushed his own son's mental health because he believes that dnd is demonic. It sickens me.

[@elgeniomaestro]

Ironic considering that this is one of the best ways to make your son hate you for the rest of his life, way to protect your family

[@giftedfox4748]

I think the father was protecting more of his own ideas more than his family. The family bit was just a throw away sentence to make him seem less of an asshat.

[@Demicleas]

The only good excuse iv found of that statement being used is when father's kill phedophiles for sexually assaulting there children. Now that's protecting you're family not destroying DND.

[@cray-zykrillin8868]

Yeah, me and my friends are all worshipping Lucifer on the regular. A critical roll is actually a portal to the shadowrealm

[@starbird3939]

“Actually a portal to tbe shadow realm” No no no no. That’s Yugioh. Get your game shows right!

[@lukeperez9988]

Yeah, Critical Roll is a portal to the underdark, Yugioh is a portal to the shadow realm, and Pokemon is a portal to the distortion world.

[@MrStupidfresh1]

@@lukeperez9988 well I ain’t seeing any of em the way my rolls have been going

[@josh-oo]

He is the Lightbringer, after all.

[@nickybeingnicky]

As a member of the church of Satan, I find this absolutely hilarious. (It's an atheist religion guys. Nobody in the satanic temple believes on Satan.)

[@hokeypoke557]

So I was recently telling my mom what DnD was all about (she's 50 and I'm 26) and when I brought up the satanic panic, she was super confused. She's a devout christian, and even she laughed and said DnD was not satanic. Since then, when she's bored, I'll chat with her and have her help me come up with Quest ideas. Good times.

[@cody-adricharper5848]

That's awesome. My Mom was never satanically panicky, in fact she's been agnostic for the longest time. But she helps me with quest ideas, character concepts, and even GM's! She also is awesome. She's my Mom, but also one of my very best friends and my closest confidante. Sorry, I just wanted to gush about my amazing Mom. She's literally the nicest person I've ever met. And that's saying something because I know some super nice people!

[@quagsiremcgee1647]

Yo, that's awesome. I have some cousins that also play D&D, and one day we just started talking about it at a family gathering. Grandparents were surprisingly supportive. It was great.

[@cameronbohnke8709]

As someone who is Christian this just makes me sad. My wife’s dad is literally a pastor and I play dnd with him. This kind of action just reflects poorly on all Christian but I really hope most people don’t think we’re all this insane

[@samanthajeffers9339]

Same. My pastor is a veteran DM. He actually grew up in a cult where the Satanic Panic was super big

[@Jenna_Miles]

I guess it’s a very big label so there are all sorts of people who fall under it but there are still a bunch of Christians who believe D&D is satanic (can tell you from personal experience). Same with ones who are homophobic, transphobic, etc… Hopefully all that unhelpful shit will die out at some point soon. It would be nice not to have to worry about facing discrimination from people just because they identify as Christian. Thanks for being one of the cool ones, mate :)

[@RPCatgirl56]

My fiance and his father play D&D, and they're Christian. His dad played during the early editions and even had a hilarious story turning a guard captain's magic armor pink with a perfect 100. I know there are crazy Christians out there, and as long as they dont try to force their religion on me then we're cool. If they like D&D then even better!

[@jackzed2020]

Oh, I think you are all insane. But for entirely different reasons and most people are decent enough. (I had a cringey feeling when they talked about mission stuff in the very beginning).

[@shadowarchivist2382]

Every religion has it's lunatics. Christianity just has the handicap of being the most widespread and readily accessible.

[@randomperson3450]

The dad deffinetly won the game: "Who's going to the retirement home!"

[@johnnyferalcat896]

not him lol that's for sure

[@dantesinfernal0]

This kind of shit is how you end up spending your twilight years in the basement of the cheapest retirement home your kids can find.

[@gameboy90000]

@@dantesinfernal0 I agree whole heartedly, when my sperm donor got cancer me and my mum shoved his ass into the first available funded by the gov home we could find where he died sad and alone and the night before I told him how much we both hated him next morning he was dead much to my delight, why do I have this horrendous opinion of him? he disowned me twice and then tried to kill both me and my mother and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Moral of the story, while you do not have to bow down to your children treat them right if you want a nice old age

[@sandpiperr]

The state funded retirement home, because the kids aren't paying for a nice one!

[@luigiboi4244]

People like OP's parents make my brain hurt and my blood boil. They seriously think that a *roleplaying game,* in which can take place in *any setting* and anyone can play as *any character,* caused a sickness that is in actuality was because of a *gall bladder.*

[@nyrdybyrd1702]

Experienced this first hand (minus the illness) & haven’t been home in 28 years (left at 16); most folks don’t seem to realize we need family as adults too (perhaps more so).. that, or they purposely choose belief over brood.

[@TheGuardDuck]

You gotta understand, this is mainly ignorance, with a healthy helping of gullibility and religious loyalty. If they actually understood it for themselves, they wouldn't do this. But because preacher man goes on a rant about something HE has no concept of, but is looking for drama to stir emotions, these poor fools believe it with _conviction._

[@nyrdybyrd1702]

@@TheGuardDuck While I predominantly agree, understanding is an undertaking thus how could they not recognize?. delusion is my best guess.. that, or fear.

[@TheGuardDuck]

@@nyrdybyrd1702 Yes, delusion and fear. They're told Satan is real and trying to get you and if you don't love God enough then you might not be going to heaven. Hence, drastic times require drastic measures, and destroying someone's belongings because they could be dooming their eternal soul, is considered loving.

[@FaolanHart]

Also sounds like they tried to prey his sickness away rather than getting an actual doctor to look at it.

[@CJAFTER5]

Satanic Panic can pretty much be summed up as "Is it fun? then its satanic" imagine having fun, smh!

[@Iceblade269]

Believe it or not, a lot of christians are like that. It’s why I left the cult

[@kurosakikun96]

It's always been a thing unfortunately, the age of the Salem Witch Trials for example, they viewed anything that wasn't devoted to either work or worship as a "satanic temptation", including anything involving people from out of the townships

[@ModernAegis]

A cardinal sin, truly. The greatest crime that one could ever commit. Why, we should lock you up for even entertaining the idea.

[@chriswhittington5790]

My-my-my-my mom-momma sa-said dat-dat gurls are da devil. 😏 About sums up the satanic panic. Am I right?

[@justibloomsm]

Thank God My Church isnt Like That. Many People There Actually Like DnD

[@mitchellenderson7194]

I love that people even remotely connect D&D with Satanic practices, when my group has had to have the following exchanges: “Okay, so I know this thing is evil by nature and is going on a killing spree, but can I attempt Persuasion to make it my best friend and give it a redemption arc?” “If one more person rolls to seduce the oxen pulling this cart, I’m dropping the Tarrasque on this board.” “Alright, someone else go fight the boss, I’m going to help this pregnant goblin deliver its child.” “I’ve only had my drake companion for half of a game, but if anything happened to it, I would multiclass into a Barbarian so I could kill everything in the campaign quickly and effectively, and then myself.”

[@TwistedChungus]

"So, we killed their leader. Can I make this bandit hideout into a church for my god and convert the bandits and bugbears?"

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

i... would like to seduce the oxen.

[@Dookieman1975]

The fact he has to pretend he’s perfectly fine with what his dad did just so he might not get kicked out in his physical state shows that the dad doesn’t really care about what he feels and doesn’t value his opinion either nor what he’s going through. He’s not even following god he’s just following a priest that doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

i mean what do you expect from cultists? the father saw the priest had x opinion and because he was a priest of his cult he obviously thought "then his opinion is correct."

[@Dookieman1975]

@@svartrbrisingr6141 it’s not even supposed to be like that, unless it’s a Ouija board you don’t just do that because some dude who clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about says so based on a “oh, it had to be something”

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

@@Dookieman1975 then you have never encountered a religious zealot. they will always believe those in a high position of their cult. if they have a differing view to begin with and see it conflicts then they will think their opinion is wrong because priests or what not to them are messengers of their twisted god.

[@Dookieman1975]

@@svartrbrisingr6141 Yes, I have. But they’re not as common as you think they are. I literally met a guy that claimed he saw an angel and it just sounded fake the whole time. Then he got pressed when I didn’t believe him because why tf would an angel show up then disappear without doing or saying anything? Angels only show up in the Bible if they have something to do or say, but he just said he saw it reveal itself and leave and had that whole “higher than thou” act and kept trying to act like some mentor from a movie as if he’s been enlightened when the angel he claimed to see didn’t tell him anything to make him act this way. And started seething when I didn’t believe him. Also you seem to have a very negative view of religion when being a stubborn yet spineless ego driven idiot is not what it’s supposed to be at all

[@NkGaming-1101]

If that was my dad, on the day that I move out I will look at him and say “You will never see your grandchildren”. I would want to make sure he doesn’t do the same thing to them

[@nickybeingnicky]

Should have pressed charges for the felony destruction of property. In my state anything over $750 is bummed to felony. The highest I've seen in a state was $1500. So at $3000, daddio could go to prison.

[@prestonmurphy283]

I would go one step further and say I don't have a dad, I just have a sperm donor

[@chelseycline6991]

Seriously, how is this not considered child abuse?! Hope they move out as soon as possible and never talk to that jerk again.

[@Reyn_Roadstorm]

@@chelseycline6991 Well it did say they graduated high school about 5 years ago, so at that point is just property destruction between 2 people living in the same house. Still worthy of a lawsuit and disowning the father.

[@chelseycline6991]

@@Reyn_Roadstorm Thanks for the correction. I missed that bit. And definitely still worthy of a lawsuit and disowning the father.

[@GarkKahn]

I remember when my grandma started saying bullsh1t to me about how motorsports and football were satanic and once i got so tired of her stupid and typical "i'm so much better than all of you sinners" attitude that i told her that the demons whispered into my ear during a match and told me that a certain someone inside that same room was stealing from the charity money and it would be really embarassing if i may told somebody from the church about it (wonder about whom was i talking about) Basically told her "i'll shut up if you shut up" Also the next time she started with those stupid lectures i went the next day and told the head of that church all about what happened to the missing charity money lol

[@connorjohnson8590]

That spun into a direction I was totally not expecting lololol. Was your grandma actually filching donation money?

[@Supanappa]

Reminds me of a story I heard of D&D being banned in a school for being satan worship, so one of the teachers proposed a game and explained it in a way where it was just "A board game where the students all get together to solve various problems together in unique ways inside of a fantasy setting" and the principle agreed, which basically gave the teacher permission to host D&D games after school. He just named it something else or whatever to be sneaky lol.

[@n.a.nameless5435]

The dad's convenient forgetfulness: OP's initial medical condition began while en route to a missionary trip.

[@B1-997]

By the dad’s own logic, it was OPs fault that he put himself into a situation like getting into a horrible bus accident.

[@MsTalia1]

The Demons infesting him had a time travelling reaction from possessing him in the future.

[@tattoodude8946]

God does work in mysterious ways - like destroying the lives of the faithful. But I suppose they would come back with the "he's testing us" logic. I don't think I want to worship a god that tests me by destroying my life. No thanks - I think I will just be happy by doing things I find fulfilling if that's ok.

[@fadedgabe791]

Nope that part was all God's plan! The gall bladder problem, regardless of how extremely common it is, was totally the work of Satan.

[@wakkaseta8351]

@@tattoodude8946 *"But I suppose they would come back with the "he's testing us" logic."* ------------------------------------------------ That's one of their responses. The other is "Satan is trying to tempt us"

[@bigboybastard7162]

OP: Gets into an accident and the only thing he can do is play dnd and it helps with his depression Parents: understandable, have a nice day OP: gets sick Father: "dnd summons demons and i will purge everything even remotely similar to it"

[@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666]

Heck, I’d purge dnd because it is an Insult to Tzeentch.

[@bigboybastard7162]

@@SkoomaGodDovahkiin666 im a slaanesh guy myself. Emperors children all the way

[@davidkoudelka10]

"Rage induced by his single, last braincell fizzling out", that is a new insult I shall gladly use on any and every ignorant asshole that I come across!😂 Thank you CritCrab!🦀

[@mitsunitaiko1742]

"one thing they had in common was D&D so it's the reason why they're sick" well according to that logic one thing every sick people have in common is breathing so breathing is the issue

[@pippo17173]

The moment the mom began to distance herself, she knew damn well what was gonna happen. She still sucks for letting it happen it.

[@B1-997]

The moment a parent asks their kid “you know we still love you no matter right?” is a giant red flag that they messed with something that was near and dear to you.

[@DerpsWithWolves]

Man, I was expecting a "the father was slowly poisoning him to make him go back to church" twist from this as soon as the pastor was brought up... But him taking advantage of a gallbladder condition isn't much better. And D&D is more or less LARP, but without running around outside... How do they get one but not the other? I don't buy it. Sounds like The dad was just using it as a scapegoat. Sister sounds cool though.

[@nickybeingnicky]

Dad should be charged with felony destruction of property.

[@bobthebox2993]

Some people that are quite religious tend to be very gullible whenever an authority figure tells them something. I think the father actually believed the demons story when the priest told him. This is just the way religions work, it promotes mindlessly following authority and discourages thinking for yourself.

[@LazyCharms]

I could be wrong here, but I'm kind of getting this vibe that maybe the dad wanted to cook up a confrontation with OP so that he could kick him out. OP was going through a lot and with his illness he required lots of his mother's time and attention. The dad may have wanted to unload himself of a "burden" without looking like a heartless ass, but he failed on both accounts.

[@theangrysocialist6884]

Religion makes people think their abuse is love I recommend Theramintrees videos on degrading love he explains it greatly

[@demonzero677]

if I were OP, I'd send that man a letter every holiday once I moved out. The letter is a scan of the test results showing the Gallbladder was the cause of my illness with big red permanent marker "Found your Demon, now try finding the Son you rejected." until the man formally apologized and started to help rebuild what he shattered. And people wonder why I have zero qualms about openly admitting in person in public "Religion is a crutch for the weak and a yoke for the strong, nothing more."

[@definitelyarealperson248]

“Have you heard of the satanic panic?” Gotta be one of the best opening lines for a video yet. Also anyone else get the feeling that the parents are so wack that they could be poisoning OP and blaming demon. Never mind. It was just his gallbladder. But still, the parents could have known the issue and just tried to pray it away instead of get actual medical treatment. Also I feel bad for the mother since she’s kinda in a position where she feels she can’t leave despite knowing her husband has done horrible things to her son. She is a victim too. Although it doesn’t exactly excuse her for not protecting her child. She failed big time there.

[@definitelyarealperson248]

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[@Anonymous-bi5pv]

Christianity moment

[@n0etic_f0x]

Walks up in dark robes with a 5e players guide. Hello, have you heard of our lord and saviour Veckna? They slam the door in your face and you leave a character sheet and a d20 on their doorstep.

[@alexcline13]

No I had to have my gallbladder removed as well, it took the doctors a while to figure it out as well. It's mainly do to the fact that it's really uncommon in teenage boys and a number of tests they probably did, didn't show any issues with the gallbladder.

[@definitelyarealperson248]

@@alexcline13 i said that the parents were poisoning him before i got to the part where be figured out the actual issue. Just the parents sounded so messed up that when it said that he was sick and no one knew why, i assumed the parents were behind it.

[@persadies]

I have a confession to make, I'm a terrible father, I introduced my son to D&D and now he is as addicted to it as I am. But seriously, I remember when the satanic panic started with D&D. I was in high school at the time and had parents who were not idiots. I still had to fight to get clubs established but I always won.

[@jackzed2020]

Ooh I would totally sue Dad's ass for this. That was alot of stealing going on, compensation for mental trauma.. Yep. Dad would have to work quite a bit for me.

[@philltxr388]

My mom was hit by the panic once and trew all my MTG cards and anything remotely magical (Harry Potter books, my unicorn Keychain... Well everything that reassembles magic in my life) away while I was in my auntie house on vacation... I feel that story deep in my heart. In my case, eventually my mom apologized to me and I felt it was genuine. Now I play d&d, mtg and have a bunch of magical paraphernalia, some even as a gift of her. So who knows... Hope your father will someday be able to see the light, as my mother did.

[@johnroberts4456]

One can wish for an honest apology and reparations, but I wouldn't hold my breath

[@fyreoblar]

The satanic panic stuff was literally the dumbest reason to attack dnd. Still remember that weird movie with Tom Hanks that was all about the evils of Role-playing.

[@Domino365]

Which was hilarious in hindsight because four kids were playing, and Tom Hanks's character was the only one who went crazy, meaning he had a preexisting condition before he started playing.

[@javsandarts]

I HAVE SPELLS

[@gurmyigoll3535]

I can fly

[@flameofmage1099]

What was it called?

[@TheMrMojoRisin67]

Mazes and Monsters

[@daniellau9177]

Frollo: "I am a pious man. No temptation shall overcome my family." Quasimodo: "Hey dad, I'm playing DnD, wanna join?"

[@thomasl1061]

Frollo: "I roll a natural twenty and cast aside the Gypsy filth!" Quasimodo: "Dad, did you show the DM your Nat 20 before picking it up?"

[@garrettgarner438]

OP’s dad is peak “how to get your kids to resent you for years to come”. This story is like many others where the parents destroy their kids things because a grifter pastor told them so. Think of how many Pokémon cards were ripped to shreds. How many copies of DOOM or Pokémon red was smashed with a sledgehammer. How many copies of Harry Potter was set on fire. It’s sad to someone’s childhood be destroyed like that.

[@terratorment2940]

no different from book burning

[@TheTrueBrawler]

OP's dad isn't just that. He's peak "how to get your kids to resent you for the rest of their lives as well as even beyond into whatever afterlife may exist". I would never forgive the father if I was OP. If the father seriously wasn't aware that his own son with whom lives with him is suffering depression so bad that very few things make him happy, then that would be he is dumber than the average person by at least a few orders of magnitude, so I highly doubt ignorance is even a consideration in this situation. Knowing full well that his son was suffering depression and that D&D was one of the few things that made him happy, this horrendous demon of a man went through his son's stuff and destroyed everything that was D&D themed and even some stuff that wasn't D&D themed. OP's mental health near undoubtedly got way worse for years to come as he was already at one of his lowest points and just lost half of everything he had left including an absolutely critical relationship as well as the peace of mind knowing that his own stuff would be safe in the house he lives in.

[@fungithefungi3331]

Oh, my mom once threw away my warhammer minis because i had "played enough" with them. She had no idea what they cost and I bought them with money i had earned myself. That said, if a parent to me would do such a thing to me. The relationship wouldnt just be "not the same", they would be dead to me.

[@callumn2111]

Aww man that stings. What happened after she threw them out.

[@timspeller4084]

*reply of anger and disgust*

[@mattcarper9853]

Let me one up you. Alpha and Beta Magic cards. ALL of them. I finally got an apology a few years ago, twenty plus years after the fact.

[@thedeathray8620]

@@mattcarper9853 Yikes. How much do you think that would be worth nowadays? Around $10.000?

[@fungithefungi3331]

@@callumn2111 not much, when i tried to bring it up years later when she commented on the minis i painted she tries to say that it never happened. Thats how she is, ive only wittnessed her make an apology one time in my life and she makes many minstakes she should apologies for. 99.8% of the time when she does something wrong she tries to pull that stunt.

[@TheAtheist8]

i wish, wish, WISH. that his dad was there when he got his diagnosis, so that poster could just turn to him and say. " oh. wow dad. fancy that. it was my gall bladder dad. you hear that dad? my gall bladder. dad? dad? you hear? my gall bladder. not demons. dad? dad? did you hear? it wasn't because of dnd. dad? dad? getting rid of my dnd didn't make me better dad? dad? dad. my gall bladder. crazy right?" in the most monotone way. his dad needs to fucking GROVEL for this. his fucking pastor too.

[@omegamysterio3701]

He'd probably turn around and in a desperate attempt to justify himself so he still thinks he's the good guy and not a complete asshole, declare that "The demons did the gall bladder! You wouldn't have demons if you didn't DnD!" 😒

[@TheAtheist8]

@@omegamysterio3701 sadly, true. U less the doctor would be able to attribute it to something directly caused by the parents or something. Like something the parents were doing was making it worse. But that's doubtful.

[@sassyghost_8]

Man, that’s heartbreaking. The Satanic Panic did such a number on nerd culture and it honestly says more about the church than it does about D&D.

[@ArthurRex131]

I don't recall the actual Catholic church (or any other denomination) either condoning or committing acts like these during the Satanic Panic. Most of the stuff that happened during that decade were narcissist zealots like the dad in this video acting on their own initiative.

[@hazukichanx408]

Organized religion needs to be stopped. Let people believe what they want, sure, but don't let them foist it on others... make that an actual crime, worldwide, no exceptions, and then see how many new christians and other coercive faith followers we get. They'll fight, of course. They believe they have the right to force others to believe in a god who supposedly knows all and can do anything, yet lets THIS world happen. And if the world sucks, well, people must not be begging for mercy hard enough, right. Blame the victims, real constructive. *_Sigh_*

[@sassyghost_8]

@@hazukichanx408 The problem is, by criminalizing proselytizing, that’s infringing on religious beliefs. Catholics, Christians, Mormons, and other sects believe that the word of God is to be shared. It’s in their books of worship that it is their duty to spread the gospel. This made sense during a time where oral traditions and pamphlets were the means of communication across nations and where the culture is all the same but in the modern world, where countries are becoming more multi-cultural, it comes off as pushy and invasive.

[@quagsiremcgee1647]

@@ArthurRex131 I'm a youngling so I don't know much about the satanic panic, but following from what I know about other events that checks out.

[@ArthurRex131]

@@quagsiremcgee1647 I lived through it. Many individual churchgoers and priests did condemn the game, but there was never an official stance given by the Catholic Church or any other Christian denomination regarding the game itself in terms of doctrine.

[@adriannaranjo4397]

The Dad definitely didn't care about D&D being "satanic", especially considering they were fine with it & LARP before that point. They just wanted to abuse their power over OP. Just grabbing stuff they personally didn't like - movie posters, sketch books, manga, novels, and even gave his newest dice set to his sister *to play D&D.* The fact they even coordinated an effort to split OP's property into six different dumpsters & waited for the trash to be collected twice before telling OP just to be 200% sure he couldn't get a single scrap of his things is downright sociopathical. Even asking a pastor who gave D&D a complete pass only to do this was just rubbing salt in the wound. I hope OP & their sister never speak to their father again after moving out

[@nicolocorbellani9807]

Probably the father hated the son because before the accident thought he would become the young american role model,serve in the military,having a family ,having a manual job and generally speaking having a life without disabilities. so he wanted to send a message to the "disgusting" son who's now a "failure and nerd". The daughter is a woman so in his mind it doesn't matter that much that she preferes intellectual activities to phisical ones.

[@NopeNaw]

Sounds like the dad lands closer to psychopathy than sociopathy. "Psychopaths, in general, have a hard time forming real emotional attachments with others. Instead, they form artificial, shallow relationships designed to be manipulated in a way that most benefits the psychopath. People are seen as pawns to be used to forward the psychopath’s goals. Psychopaths rarely feel guilt regarding any of their behaviors, no matter how much they hurt others. But psychopaths can often be seen by others as being charming and trustworthy, holding steady, normal jobs. Some even have families and seemingly-loving relationships with a partner. While they tend to be well-educated, they may also have learned a great deal on their own. When a psychopath engages in criminal behavior, they tend to do so in a way that minimizes risk to themselves. They will carefully plan criminal activity to ensure they don’t get caught, having contingency plans in place for every possibility." Fits ol' dad there like a glove.

[@catte.]

why is it extremely hilarious to receive a notification from a crab that just says panic lmao

[@ShibuNub3305]

It’s a command. You _will_ panic regardless of personal intentions.

[@jaycraw6978]

I was part of a Christan D&D group in high-school so the panic stuff is hilarious. It's literally just improvisation with math and even the youth group leader would join in sometimes. Also the poor guy... I can't imagine how much worse OP's anxiety gotten after that, and what did that do to their moms and sister's relationship to their dad?

[@hallaloth3112]

This ticks me off so much having grown up in a fairly conservative Christian home that understood what FANTASY meant. I grew up reading fantasy, watching sci-fi with my parents, watching (and joining them) play video games that were very much fantasy. I can very, very loosely grasp the argument that some families may use wanting to keep DnD out of their homes. However we partake of media, in any medium we do internalize it. Even if we never act out on it, it's still there and sometimes, for some people that can take over their life in a negative way. I am so grateful to my parents for letting me live life and enjoy the fantasy that I enjoy. I had a co-worker I overhear on the phone upset with her son saying 'its satanic and you shouldn't be playing it' nice lady. . .and I wish I were more conformational because I very much wanted to say something. It stuck me as hilarious she was so against commercialized holidays yet worked in retail. This was Hobby Lobby though and contradictions abounded there. I no longer work there and I hate that I have nowhere else I can frame art.

[@ulvemann43]

I wonder if OP's dad is mentally ready to grow old without children who want anything to do with him, because that's the only likely result of all of this.

[@DrTimeSCPPsych]

And that is how those parents lost their children forever because this is the shit that gets you NCed

[@neock]

man, the second the dad told him what he did, id be on the phone with a lawyer and the cops. parents always assume they can do what they want with thier childs things, even if the 'child' bought the item themselfs or are over 18 already.

[@WreathGhost]

Don't forget the local media. This pastor needs to be dragged through his own mud. OP seems to be in a good place now but what if this preacher does something to someone in a more fragile state?

[@richyofthevillagers]

I was looking for someone who thought this. Honestly, considering the amount of money, if OP was old enough they could most certainly take this to court, at least as a civil case. I'd be taking every last cent for damages and getting as far away as possible. My gallbladder could wait. (This comes from someone with kidney issues that causes pain, I know it's an exaggeration but seriously)

[@B1-997]

@@richyofthevillagers since this story takes place a few years after high school so OP is an adult during the horror story, he absolutely should sue for everything that that thrown out. There was a story of a guy’s parents who threw out his porn collection while he was away, he came back, found out what his parents did and successfully sued his parents for property destruction. How much? His porn collection was apparently valued at over $30,000!

[@krimsonkatt]

@@B1-997 Isn't porn free? lol. You can find an infinite amount of it online all for free.

[@TheMasterUnity]

@@B1-997 The issue is OP had nowhere else to live. If they do sue, then they get at most a couple thousand dollars and are then either homeless or have an apartment for a few months.

[@LeetMasterAce]

I would disown this father. When you're ready to move out, tell him you hate him and never, EVER speak to him again.

[@MaskedAlucard]

I know this feeling. My parents got bit by the Bible bug and mindlessly sold some very old games I brought that had value for a church event without telling me. Voluntold me to church events that frankly was dangerous to be in. (Church was in a really bad neighborhood.) And finally when I invited them to a dnd game I had to remove clerics and paladins only cause they would short circuit at the thought of more than one God in a pretend game. Also the church was very homophobic and treated anyone not 50 or over like they were 8 years old. So I get where this person is coming from having to pretend to be 100% normal even if disagreeing with how things are.

[@unknownbyself]

And then churches like this are wondering why younger people aren't coming to church anymore, and dropping religion like a bad habit. They have only themselves to blame.

[@Shalakor]

Why not just go oldschool and keep the Clerics and Paladins, but in a campaign setting with only one God? Could be more fun that way. Of course, given the description of that Church, guess you didn't want to put in the effort that would take to cater to a viewpoint not worth capitulating to any more than strictly necessary. ...Though, maybe with how you worded that they weren't playing and you just had to hide clerics and paladins that were part of a game in-progress?

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

@@Shalakor well even if you did that i highly doubt zealots like what we often see would be okay with it since clerics and paladins are granted power from their god that actually does something direct unlike what their religion says where youll just feel good by praying. when it comes to cults like that you just have to keep everything that can set them off away from them.

[@andreavasquez4355]

This story hurts me so much. This person's father destroyed what made them happy during a bad time. It's so stupid that religious people still see D&D as satanic.

[@minc1236]

Not all of us just the ignorant. It's not even a Christian's place to pass judgment like that. That is Gods duty alone.

[@andreavasquez4355]

@@minc1236 Sorry, I know that not every religious person is like this, but it's infuriating when the ones that are do these things.

[@minc1236]

@@andreavasquez4355 No worries fam, I didn't hold it against you. We're all guilty of generalizing on purpose or not. "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone" John 8:7 More to the point I too found OPs situation infuriating. That was straight ignorance.

[@DeltaSpider_]

Some do, and some don't. My church ward promotes that teenagers should....talk about the church while playing D & D, or something like that. They know that D & D is the major social gathering among the youth, so they even positively mention it over the pulpit at church. Weird flex, but okay.

[@fateisme]

I get it, religion can really suck. My partner's parents are very religious and they hate me since I'm trans and tried to convince them I was just some sick pervert, this was incredibly ineffective since I'm Ace and we're both adults.

[@saltomancer9310]

One of my best friends almost had a similar problem. I taught him how to play D&D 3.5 and when his parents found out I had to go over to his house and PROVE it was not devil worship. In the end, the agreement was he could play so long as he never played any character that didn't worship the Christian God and said God was always in our games. We "agreed" to said terms. He still in my games to this day.

[@B1-997]

What hardcore Christian wouldn’t want to play as a cleric or paladin smiting devils and the wicked from the earth in the name of god in a home brew setting?

[@NopeNaw]

"so long as he never played any character that didn't worship the Christian God and said God was always in our games" That dog won't hunt, monsignor.

[@edersonnico]

@@B1-997 Well, DnD gods are not exactly like christian god. More like nordic and celtic mythological gods. I wouldn't like to play something so restrictive either.

[@flameofmage1099]

This is a perfect example of people just blindly following whatever their preacher says. I can not begin to describe the emotions I felt just from hearing this. I'm not a violent person but chaos must come before peace yes?

[@TheGuardDuck]

No, but justice sometimes requires righteous anger.

[@Ghilannugs]

I'm not a violent person. But I am stubborn and (especially when I was a bit younger) filled with wrath towards those who wronged me. My dad spanked me when I was like 8 (it was barely even a spank lol) and I literally packed my things and left for like a day. I made him beg me for forgiveness before returning. If I was OP.... i think i'd ruin my dads life for doing that.

[@Yeshuah6]

Blindly following the preacher is not only common but encouraged. You'll hear church goers referred to as a flock of sheep while the leader is a shepherd. I know it sounds like something an edge lord might say but it's directly quoted from the bible.

[@TheGuardDuck]

@@Yeshuah6 Yeah, it's kind of sickening. When you're raised in it you just can't see how horrible it actually is. When you take a step back and look at it from the outside, you see how foolish and stupid it all is.

[@Ecwfan]

The son needs to wait til he's ready to move out. Just as he's going and wait til the dad and mom leave for the day. Then go throw anything the dad likes in the trash. Just tell him ..."I heard its SATANIC so there ya go. I'm proud of what I did too. Your never gonna get it back either." And leave. The dad will be angry but get a taste of his own medicine.

[@B1-997]

Should throw out about $3000 worth of the dad’s stuff out, then call it even.

[@SenorVilla]

Damn, this was one of the most personally upsetting stories I've heard from this channel. I know about growing up with close-minded religious people, and the idea of one day losing all the things that you value and have helped you through rough times, while being bedridden and unable to do anything about it makes my blood boil and eyes water. Shout out to the sister for preserving the books that I'm sure were super meaningful to OP.

[@Dark_Jaguar]

"Fun" fact: I grew up in the Satanic Panic period, and while it didn't exactly consume everyone's lives, it did lead to the ridiculous fears of someone poisoning your kid's Halloween candy. Back then, you'd get all kinds of things. Yes, some people just bought full size sticks of Starburst, but many would hand-package little baggies with a trail-mix of sugar, and more would just make their own treats from wrapped brownies to candied apples to whatever. That slowly stopped as corporations jumped on the panic and advertised their candy "when still wrapped" as "safe". Oh yes, and let's not forget all the news casters ALSO saying "bring your pets inside on Halloween because cultists are out there waiting to sacrifice your pets!" In any case, it's the blaming his child for being sick part that is the most, ahem, sickening part of this story. It's also all too common. Bad things don't happen to good people, so it must be some personal failing! That's their belief. Of course, calmly pointing out that the game isn't "about" summoning demons, and most players in most campaigns don't do that at all will be utterly ignored. Pointing out that most of the time, adventurers are killing demons, not summoning them, and that there's a whole class dedicated to smiting wicked deeds in the name of god's holy light will also be ignored.

[@MrArtelius]

To be fair, the case of poisoned candy happened at least once. Some psycho replaced the sugar from a straw candy with cyanide and sealed it back. No satanism involved tho.

[@ayf449]

Well if they ignored the demons and brainwashing part they'll just turn to: "omg this game is very violent, it promotes violence, and will make your children violet!!"

[@Ipsolus]

It's funny too, considering that's an aspect of the Book of Job. Summarized, God takes on a bet with the devil that the devil can test Job, whether he'd still worship God or not. Crops withered, house destroyed, family deceased, and Job ridiculously diseased. All the while, he'd done no wrong. The actual final straw for him were his friends gathering around him, refusing to listen to him and insisting that this has happened because he sinned. "Yeah bro, just repent, you'll get better 🤗"

[@Cure_Hana]

Technically the candy poisoning fear isn’t entirely unfounded. I think people started to become alert about it after an infamous murder case in 1974, where a father actually killed his own son by lacing his pixie stick with cyanide all for the sake of getting life insurance money.

[@markedforstrike]

What do you mean by "ridiculous fears of someone poisoning your kid's Halloween candy"? Nothing ridiculous, I did it - few drops of purgative in pancakes and next year nobody came to knock in my door

[@MyLittlePonyTheater]

Alternate title: a man with holy intentions paves for himself the road to hell.

[@GymbalLock]

My dad thought D&D was "evil-inspired". Back in the late 1980s He actually paid me ten bucks to give my Red Box set to a friend (who wanted to buy it). Dad didn't have any problem with me developing my own sci-fi game system, though.

[@cheezeofages]

This reminds of the time in High School my school chess club went to nationals and stayed with the supervisor's kid that lived in that state to save on hotel cost. I had bought a tin of Magic the Gathering cards at the event and before going to bed buried it in the pile of our luggage so it wouldn't get stolen by the kids or offend anyone. Woke up in the morning to find it gone. The father had put it in the garage because it's 'satanic'. Which means he went through the pile AND moved it without telling a soul. If I had forgotten I bought it he would have effectively stolen $50 in cards from me. Great Christianity there, man.

[@mriddley]

This story really hits home for me because my dad acted like this when I was really into yugioh he thought I was in a cult casting real spells then he started trying to play it off like he was kidding but when I messed with him in a similar way he would act like I just kicked his dog he was/is a hypocrite that can dish it out but can't take it

[@TheGuardDuck]

Considering how the anime works, this is painfully hilarious.

[@mriddley]

@@TheGuardDuck the really funny thing is I used to use dark magician then I switched to heroes and he STILL thought I was doing black magic I was using a literal super hero deck and still he thinks I'm calling the devil

[@TheGuardDuck]

@@mriddley It's because when you believe that "Satan goes around like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour", anything strange and mystical is suspect. A Satanist once explained that they don't believe in a literal Satan. He was then asked that if they didn't, then who did? The answer, was "Christians."

[@jimszalewski2842]

I feel this so much. My dad ripped up a bunch of my MTG cards when I was a kid. Probably around $6000 worth of cards today.

[@Nephanor]

My mom sold about the same value of DnD when I was trying to get settled to be able to pay for it to be shipped to me. She gave me $150 and said that was all she got. There were single books in there that were worth more than that (excellent condition 2nd printing original PHB, MM and Deities and Demigods, which I told her to NEVER sell. She was just angry at me and wanted to punish me. Same woman who put my cat down because she didn't want to take care of him.

[@greyman8009]

when you send her to a retirement home remind her of this stuff and never visit.

[@barneymiller7894]

My mother was alot like this. I haven't spoken to her in about ten years. As far as my children are concerned my mother is dead, and they will never know any differently.

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

the last part reminds me of my aunt. when i was younger(14 or so) i had a cat but had to move because my living condition was unstable so my aunt offered to care for my cat while i was away. 2 month later i go to get her back only to find out she was dead. my aunt who herself owned a cat at this point(a bitchy calico) for some reason decided to lock my cat(a very shy rescue that had been abused prior and was the sweetest thing ever once she opened up to you) in the garage with absolutely no food or water for 2 whole months. like she proudly said she put the cat in the garage day 1 after i left. but the complete worst part. she lied about it all until i found out. i went looking for her when i went to get her all excited to have my cat back and just couldnt find her in her favorite hiding spots so at a lost to what to do i went into the garage and my god it smelled horrid. but i also saw my cat. half decomposed. but i recognized her by the white pelt and green eyes. though the pelt was dirty and mostly unrecognizable, and the eyes... the cat had absolutely gorgeous eyes. a deep emerald green that actually looked like gems. but they were no longer the same... just green and dull. i have not forgotten. and never will. my aunt actively killed my cat who otherwise would have absolutely no issues to take care of. she ate very little, tended to hide herself away from others, was very quiet, and litter trained. there was no reason outside my aunt just being a bitch to kill her.

[@barneymiller7894]

@@svartrbrisingr6141 I would've killed my aunt. Straight up.

[@theunease5541]

This shit is just too awful, I can't even begin to imagine how traumatic that must have been and the trust issues they must be dealing with to this day. I wish them nothing but the best.

[@plick177]

ahh yes, reminds me of the good ol' days playing dungeons and demons version 6.66 where we regularly summoned azazel to DM for our sessions, good times.

[@ayf449]

Honestly though.. it's sad.. And it had the same energy as my mum throwing out all of my PS4 hardcopy games because Whatsapp mother's group convinced her that Video games make people violent, the bad people put hidden messages and hidden agents that target kids teens and young adults brainwash them and convince them to join their terrorist groups, AND they will make you commit suicide oh also will give epilepsy. She also almost destroyed my PS4 too. Needless to say she doesn't know I'm kinda dipping my toes in DnD. I don't really play with my ps4 all that much anymore, It's discouraging really. Funny thing is: She missed Skyrim, it was on the bottom of the pile and she just left it there didn't see it all. *Stealth 100.*

[@bobthebox2993]

Yo, if my father did that, I would literally break all contact with him, no joke. And I don't even have that much "D&D stuff", it doesn't matter if it's worth 10 or 10k, it's the thought that counts. The thought that my father would go behind my back, buy into a religious zealot's talk of demons and destroy stuff he knows is precious to me.

[@NPC-rq6vn]

Can confirm that D&D is evil. If your character dies in the game, not only do you get kicked out, but you die in real life. Also, once you reach lvl 8, your DM will teach you how to cast real spells. Thank you Jack Chick for warning us. :/

[@luciferandassociates9255]

If you die in the game, you die in real life! But you don't you just go back to your dorm room and play some GTA V.

[@cobaltcouatl1476]

D&D has turned me into a yuan-ti. I’m looking into buying a ball python. I was raised Christian. Still go to church. Send help!

[@Zarnirox]

Yeah, but on the other hand, you get a free egg mcmuffin if the ritual is complete. So, you know what to do...

[@hexonyou]

lol I knew I recognized this plot. going to have to re-watch Dark Dungeons and have a good laugh at Chick's expense.

[@coastaldeserter]

RIP Black Leaf

[@TheBatch62]

I was here when the title was "panic".

[@insertnamehere4088]

Same

[@BrokenEchoCave]

same xD I was wondering if it loaded the wrong video haha

[@jaxusr235]

PANIC!

[@Jakepearl13]

Same bestieeee

[@emberofeon4868]

PANIK

[@richyofthevillagers]

Honestly this really is sad. My mom was Catholic, and she had even heard things about the satanic panic era and thought that was what it was about, when I had told her I was starting to play. I literally just sat down and had maybe a five minute conversation about what it was and she immediately changed her mind. Maybe a year later she made a character and enjoyed every second of it, really shows the difference between people who just dont know anything else and people who just want it to be as an excuse to be a terrible person.

[@malachitate632]

I was really hopeing to hear that OP pressed charges against his father. $3,000 worth of stuff is easily grand larceny.

[@nameless_milk_1624]

The fact that I saw a video right above this called "instant panic" is hilarious to me. If that was me when my dad said that to me, I don't care if it hurts, my dad will not be able to walk anymore.

[@flaretheartist]

I'd sue

[@alholbrook8292]

I would actually cry, just ball my eyes out, then after words punch him, thankfully my father isn’t like that and even supports me if I was not straight (which I’m not lol)!! He very accepting and that’s all I really can ask for, I’m so proud of my father :D

[@dashiellgillingham4579]

I would straight up file a suit. They stole and destroyed over three thousand dollars of property, most of which was irreplaceable.

[@johnathanhooker5375]

Counterintuitively, I'm happy to hear this story. Specifically because it comes from OP. If I'd heard it from someone else I'd assumed he killed himself or worse. I'm really glad OP got enough support to make it through that

[@sirpotatolord2219]

man as a kid raised christian these stories always hit hard with me, my parents threw out tons of stuff I liked as a kid cause it was "Evil" pokemon stuff, yugioh cards, they heavily censored anything I watched rather than try to help me understand it. now that I'm an adult and can clearly explain things to my parents they are more understanding of how insane they acted but as a kid I had no power to stop their brainwashed minds. It is insane how scared christians are of literally everything that is foreign to them.

[@ArthurRex131]

That kind of fear is present in all humans. It's only the subject that differs.

[@HOLDENPOPE]

I am Christian and this does not apply to me. I love DnD among hundreds of other things that the dad in this video would call evil. My favorite example is probably Lies of P, where the plot centers around alchemists *ripping people's souls out to use as power sources for both magic and robots.*

[@n0etic_f0x]

If that was my dad I would just leave despite having no way to provide for myself, I know this because I ran away from home with no way to provide for myself.

[@ClockwerkMan]

In defense of the OP, he's also got crippling disability due to the wreck. I too ran away, in my case from an abusive father, and ended up homeless for a bit.

[@n0etic_f0x]

@@ClockwerkMan fair, I would try to move it with my sister in his case. I would never love my father again, I know that is true because it is my reality. We are decent… business partners now, but we will never be family. If it wasn’t for my mom I likely never would have talked to him again.

[@JosiahSum1Wallis]

Fun story, I am Christian, go to church every week, go to a small group every week as well. One small group I was asked to do child care with one of the pastors, I of course agreed.... and brought DnD books.... I sat the kids down (I think 5-7 of them between 5-10 years old) and got them playing, this being a church group I set the game in C.S. Lewis' Narnia, just after the main events of The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe. I played with the kids for 2 hours, the pastor sat there and watched me. The kids have since asked me when I will be on child care again, the pastor complemented me a game well run for kids. All this to say, not all Christians are like this, there are many good Christian nerd groups.

[@Demicleas]

I mean who wouldn't want to kill demons?

[@native0921]

At least his mom and his sister did their best to look out for him. Tbh if my family ever did that to me, I’d let them know my respect for them as adults is gone and would no longer carry any trust towards them for trying to take control like that

[@onemisterfranko]

The mom won't get much sympathy from me, you know it's bullshit, its wrong and that the fact they waited till he was out of the house and bedridden to pull that shit is infuriating. Something like this destroys trust in a person, institutions they represent in this case the church and is poison to any relationship. Lord knows what I'd do in a situation like that if someone destroyed thousands of dollars of the things that made me happy especially in a dark part of my life.

[@WaltDevil060]

Yeah, the mom didn't do anything to help him. No sympathy for me either. She is as useless as a doormat

[@TheLastHylianTitan]

Can we please start a gofundme to get this person out of his dad’s house and regift him all the dice and memorabilia he lost? Please? Money is tight here at home but I’d pitch in for that.

[@svartrbrisingr6141]

itd be nice if possible. but sadly things are just to expensive anymore.

[@Arcticmaster1190]

You know, people within this story forgot the one commandment in the Bible that says “Thou shall not steal”. I don’t think people realize that when you do things like this out of love or concern, thinking you are saving that person from damnation, you yourself have committed a sin. You are no better than the sinner. You haven’t shown the sinner that what they did is wrong or to seek better. You only reaffirmed their beliefs. Never mind in the fact that most people in D&D often fight demons and devils rather than try to call them… it very much comes off as cutting down the laws of the land to try to catch satan rather than show that the way of righteousness is better. Though people like OP’s parents seem like the type to go for the quicker, easier path because they may feel understanding what’s around them is hard. There needs to be more understanding each other rather than dictating to what people feel is the lesser. The more you know what they know, the more you can make a rational decision on things.

[@WokioWolfy]

Here's the thing, from what I have gathered from doing Wikipedia research, this entire thing about doing these as an act with good intentions are basically what the evangelical Christians believe. What I read here is that they believe in the idea of 'Justification of Faith' in christ. What this means is that, if you justify your actions as God's law you can basically do whatever and get away with and don't believe that the good deeds you have done to others will give you a place in heaven.

[@caffeinedelusions]

Also the fact that in this particular case there's no need to seek better. Playing D&D isn't wrong, and isn't a sin. This isn't 'two wrongs don't make a right', this is 'a self-righteous jackass committed a large-scale sin against someone he claims to love for completely irrational reasons and totally shattered his entire family's trust in him'.

[@Arcticmaster1190]

@@WokioWolfy Right. They kinda do believe that justification bull. It’s the old “but it says so in the Bible” trick. Whatever creates the least amount of thinking but the most destruction. I’m reminded of that road to hell and the bricks of intentions that they are laid with… It strikes me as particularly hypocritical since they sin in one hand yet use the Lord’s name in vain in another to justify their supposed “forced hand” to sin. Though I don’t think it’s exclusive to evangelical Christians- more people do it than they realize, the justifications are more mundane or emotional than some misquoted/misrepresented part of the Bible. I guess that’s why the only group I named was OP’s folks rather than any particular Christian group as a whole. I believe better solutions should start with understanding what the other person is thinking, rather than the assumptions of what they’re thinking about doing that brought us to the Satanic Panic. There’s a lot of reasons why this lack of understanding between family is lacking that I wish I had the time, energy and gummy bears to get into. XD (also KZbin doesn’t notify me of comments so I have to check notifications on likes to see any replies.)

[@Arcticmaster1190]

@@caffeinedelusions Agreed. I don’t think their family unit is surviving a Hindenburg like that. Good intentions; horrible, HORRIBLE execution.

[@Iceblade269]

Well there’s also that bit in Deutrenomy about destroying all symbols of witchcraft no matter their value. It also states that if a man rapes a woman, that woman is to be his bride. Praise the lord sinners!

[@LMF1716]

instructions unclear, I am now satanic and panicking

[@efaristi9737]

Dang, the "demons" turned out to be a simple physical problem. Gee, who would have thought? the man literally throw aways his sick son passion out the window for bad reasons and for nothing. The least he could do now that he know he was wrong all along is to apologise.

[@jmtkf]

Man I feel bad. I've never had to go through that and i'm sorry OP did. I would have handled that situation poorly. Good on Op for keeping it together. I hope you can get out of that home. I'm sure their family isn't all bad, but situations like that aren't something I could stand twice.

[@thedragon133]

Just for throwing all of my stuff out, I'd have converted to Satanism.

[@onemisterfranko]

I would have denounced the church publicly and burned the parents religious paraphyla, two can play at this game, I'm not overly religious myself, I think there is something to it but when it leads to this stuff I get angry.

[@animeotaku307]

Dad: Playing DnD is making you sick and possessed by demons! So I’m giving one of your dice sets to your sister because she’s getting into DnD! Stellar logic there.

[@jaycraw6978]

Had something similar happen with pokemon. My mom was in the camp of "pokemon is satanic" for years and when my brother got into middle school she figured it out and bought him a ton of cards, not gonna lie I'm still ticked off to this day.

[@Xunizal]

@@jaycraw6978 and @LegalAssassin. These are what we call double standards. Edit: Grammar correction that I missed. Bleh

[@caffeinedelusions]

I'm pretty sure it's the brother who gave her the dice set, and that dad took those dice when he was purging D&D from the house.

[@Logan_Baron]

@@caffeinedelusions That's how I heard it too.

[@Forest9528]

POV: You rolled a nat 1 on your deception check

[@ninjaevxlilong]

As someone who is coming to Christ, it makes me cringe that people who also call themselves Christian think of things like Harry Potter, D&D and Pokémon as demonic. I still remember the time when a friend's sister told him not to watch me play Pokémon Yellow on the Gameboy because of the satanic panic that I don't know about at the time.

[@grave2501]

there is always a difference berween someone who belives in a religion and a total fanatic. the one who just belive in the shared values and maybe even the lore of their belive are decent people for the most part, and accept other people who don´t belive in the same thing as they themselves. But fanatics are convinced to be rigth and have to bring others on their way (mostly to not be alone with their strange interpretation) and start to force their belives onto others and starting crusades against what ever whim their interpretation leads them to think os somehow wrong even if they have litterally no idea what it actually is about. so tagging the family as christian is wrong in my opinion, they should be labled christian fanatics, with the emphasis on fanatics, because christian is not the part of the problem it is the fanatic part that is the problem.

[@njalsand133]

Fanatics are scary, most people just do not care enough

[@DrPluton]

I've been playing D&D off and on since I was five. I'm very glad my parents didn't bite the "Satanic Panic" bug. I've never summoned a demon in D&D, and I love playing a big damn hero with the power to kill evil monsters.

[@laughingman7467]

Welp if I had a close family member like that and they threw away my hobby materials, I'd often STEAL $100+ dollars from them occasionally spend that money on the stuff they got rid of and trust a close friend of mine to keep my dnd stuff safe in their house. If they catch me, I'd say "well the apple does not fall far from the tree, doesn't it? I'm an a'hole too parent" :^)

[@rossjohnstone4689]

Quite the title. I had no clue what to expect, but as always, you didn't disappoint. Sometimes the smallest titles are the most interesting :3

[@Jessie_Helms]

Take it from someone who went to ministry school, is currently interviewing with a church, and _is a DM,_ we don’t like these people either.

[@onemisterfranko]

sure, it sucks because it's a no win situation for you guys. You may have the best of intentions but people see this stuff and stay far away or outright are hostile do to the idiot and childish behavior of others.

[@justingibson4111]

That “thermal energy of their last brain cell fizzled out” is one of the best lines I’ve heard. I’m totally stealing it.

[@hyphil1354]

i cant believe they made satanic panic from stranger things season 4 into a real thing decades before the show even came out, truly the brothers duff are creative geniuses

[@alexkuieck6705]

Ironically, if my father ever tried to pull this on me, I'd have BECOME a satanist just to piss him off

[@LoboGuara5bruxaria]

Yeah, take that from someone that is christian (Catholic to be exactly): People that uses religion as a excuse to be a dick DOES NOT make said religion to be more appealing to other people, including family members. QUITE THE OPPOSSITE!

[@B1-997]

At the next family gathering go there dressed up as the most stereotypical satanist and tell everyone your dad made you who you are, embarrass him before everyone

[@TriFekt]

I don't know what's weirder, unironically believing that demons exist as actual entities, or thinking that you can get rid of them after you've summoned them by simply throwing books and dice away. You'd think if they were so scary and powerful it would take more effort to get rid of them once they're there.

[@Samuraiedge2]

Salt, their true name, iron, just to name a few.

[@ArthurRex131]

It does.

[@christophersanders3252]

Oh they’re real. But I’ll agree throwing away dice doesn’t help.

[@quagsiremcgee1647]

Yeah demons don't sound like the kind of fellows that just leave because you "learned your lesson" and stopped doing improv with math rocks.

[@InfernoDragon1]

Honestly, I wouldn’t have had the restraint to not beat the ever living shit out of the pastor, the dad, and everyone else involved in this abusive and, quite frankly, evil plan the dad came up with to rip away the one thing keeping his son stable in his time of sickness and depression. If there is a hell then the pastor, the dad, and everyone else involved in the conspiracy are all going there for what they did. After all, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.

[@WhyYouMadBoi]

I mean you tell your parents that you are going to head out to your friend's Derek's basement to go and pay Baphamet or Orcus or whatever a visit. Wearing a hooded robe because you wanted to dress up as a wizard then expected your dear old stay at home mom to not worry? (Btw alot of the demon princes and devil lords have actual demon names in irl religions)

[@mitchellpeterson7943]

I'm kind of an eye for an eye type of person. Personally I would have gone through the house and thrown out everything and anything even remotely related to religion and the church.

[@Squirreltasticqueen]

Hell yeah

[@nabinoorshahil2715]

Nah just sue them. Get the money back from their pockets and buy all the stuff they threw out back and keep it in the house. If they throw anything else out again just Sue them again. Keep doing this until they either stop or are forced to stop due to being broke. Lets see if their pastors will save them when they are in poverty.

[@keithsvenson568]

"don't ever bring dnd into my house again" me: "um okay. you'll never see dnd in your house again, because you will never see ME in your house again, and you will die alone with nobody but your imaginary friend to give you comfort"

[@iplat]

Teaching moment here: keep an itemized list and receipts of all purchases over $15 or so. Do this for insurance: loss, theft, or destruction of property

[@fluffynibble9452]

I love just seeing a notification titled 'panic' pop up on my phone screen

[@keyboardkomments9152]

When the title is just "panic"

[@Cuprite1024]

"D&D is Satanic" More like "Dad is Satanic" Seriously tho, stuff like this just makes me mad. People suck.

[@skytheannur6168]

How a parent can ruin their relationship with their children, over zealous parents blinded by their own....idiocy. I have met a friend who had a pastor burn his Magic cards. Sorry but people like that make me sick.

[@arielruh7773]

Me too

[@veiotisligon9140]

I’m a Christian and I play D&D it’s just make believe

[@lucascanzioli7712]

Man, as a christian myself this is something unbelievable. I mean, how little do you have to know about god and your own religion to do such a thing. Even the preacher how did he become a pastor? Via an online course? I'll assume he's a protestant and I don't know how does it work for them but in the Catholic church before becoming a priest you have to attend to a 6 years college with exams and all the stuff.

[@MatrixRefugee]

Not to say that some Catholics didn't buy into the Satanic Panic (my mother being an example: I wasn't allowed to play D&D because of it... though I had no inclination to do so, since the math/accounting side of it made my head spin), but the people who really went wild with it generally were Protestant Christians. The whole story definitely sounded like Protestants Gone Wild.

[@jonathanchevez316]

Maaaan, my passive aggressiveness would shoot through the roof after the gall bladder surgery, “Gee Dad, I guess all that DnD and demon possession ruined my gall bladder.” I understand why he pretended everything was all right to be able to stay and save up to move out. I went through that ordeal with my mom, no one knowing why she felt so bad and her doctor found the gall bladder to be the issue.

[@TheStrangerintheAlps]

I think I prefer the misspelling and that the parents were steeped in stannic panic. That his parents just really, really hated the presence of tin.

[@lilwizerd9537]

Can we just talk about the fact that the dad stole the new dice to give to the sister, TO PLAY DND! This is just a thinly veiled excuse to throw away op’s things for no reason

[@JoducusKwak]

reminds me on the time a DM mistook a DnD rulebook with the actual necromomicon and we endet up summoning actual demons..... no wait that never happend

[@barneymiller7894]

Don't mix DnD with LSD 😂

[@jessecoon5751]

I gasped out loud when OP said the books that were saved were the Eragon series. It wasn’t just D&D they were hunting, it was anything fantasy and magical. I cherish those books more than any other I have

[@animusnocturnus7131]

Kudos to OP. I would not have had the restraint they had towards my dad if he'd have ever pulled shit like that. He would've been dead to me from that moment onwards to the point where I would actively try to force him to reimburse me for the losses. Heck I would've considered burning his stuff down right in front of him and making him watch.