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When you don't land your plane the way it was designed a lot of embarrassing things can happen.
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[@fasstford5272]

Can’t wait to surprise my instructor with a combat landing tomorrow during flight training.

[@TheNixie1972]

“I just do it like they did on KZbin” 😂

[@martygraw9708]

My controls Skippy

[@GemmaLB]

Hey, a 747 pilot taught me this......! Post the video!

[@DrDeuteron]

Be sure to yell “CONTACT”. …. Predator style, before you dive

[@exploringtheworld6490]

Please, have pen and paper ready once you have completed your landing 😬

[@martinda7446]

The channel that makes you feel good, informs us aviation geeks, and run by a great fella. My favourite 747 pilot.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

Everybody's favorite.

[@Shasta--1]

Well, I have one who's more favorable for me, but that's because he's a good friend and we dated for a while. :)

[@JimMork]

@@Shasta--1 Does Kelsey even date? He may have let that slip, but I forget.

[@Shasta--1]

@@JimMork I don't know. :) I was referring to a pilot who was a friend who I dated for a while. I think Kelsey figures it's not our business, but I'm just guessing.

[@KyleCowden]

When I was learning, my instructor really liked precision. When I soloed I was shooting for the numbers to make him proud. The first one I floated a long way as I wasn't used to the the missing 170#. So the second one I tightened it up and did a lot better but it wasn't the greaser I wanted. On the third one, I actually started my flare over the grass and I squeaked it on just past the piano keys. I was so proud and excited, I taxiied up to the wrong hangar. 😂

[@VarDestro]

Big inspiration for me man! Trying to get my PPL Because of you. Keep doing your thing!

[@jbrown7815]

As someone who has been a passenger on a few C-130 and C-17 combat landings... they are intense. Especially if the crew doesn't warn you ahead of time.

[@Canthus13]

I can't imagine a C-17 hitting a strip like that.. o.o

[@arrrg3846]

Can confirm. If I'm ever in an elevator and the cable snaps, it'll remind me of those combat landings. Credit to the pilots though - after falling out of the sky, the touchdowns were nice and smooth.

[@_Kayla_]

Definitely a unique experience. It was actually one of my first experiences in any aircraft and no, I didn't get advanced notice. I think that was the closest I've ever come to a heart attack but hey, I have to admit it was pretty awesome. We definitely didn't slam down like that though.

[@Canthus13]

@@iridium8341 um. Show me a better plane for it's mission than a C-130. There's a reason it's still popular, still in production, and still being updated and actively employed around the world.

[@JimMork]

I rode a cargo plane to military training once. It was loud!

[@debrabaker1009]

I love watching your face as you watch the video😂 so now I have taken to watching your videos two times one to watch what’s going on in the other to watch your face. The expressions are just great.❤

[@gcorriveau6864]

727 'vent' tank explanation sounds right on. Re. fuel system complexity - early days of operating the A320 we did not have a checklist for single engine taxi out - it was just 'a thing' we might choose to do. Ask me how we discovered that with full tanks - choosing the wrong engine to shutoff during a long taxi delay can return excess 'cooling' fuel into an already full wing tank - and the flight behind you warns via ATC that 'the flight ahead is draining fuel from the outboard wing tip.' OOOps! Single Engine Taxi Checklist soon added (updated) to SOPs / QRH.

[@gracelandone]

I’m thinking your aviation nickname is Mr. Empathy. Rather than chew up video casting blame or ridiculing, you show how a pilot could end up in this situation, sometimes because you have had a similar experience. That’s a great quality.

[@eternal_seokjin7441]

I think it's common curtesy from pilots to aviation enthusiasts to find out the why instead of the who. Since the aim is to know the reason so the industry can learn from their mistakes and make flying a safer place. This is a nice thing I keep hearing in many aviation disaster videos like in Kelsey's.

[@BishopStars]

Aviation nicknames are never for something good.

[@JimMork]

Would be a good pilot trainer. Tactful.

[@Tasarran]

He knows firsthand that pilots have to make choices, and sometimes they aren't right. In the end, if you get feet on the ground, the pilot succeeded!

[@JimMork]

@@Tasarran That totally is true. Even with no passengers, you save the airframe, you are a winner (was going to say hero, but "winner" seems more precise)

[@davidp2888]

Pilot: "I crushed that landing". Kelsey: "Here's why that's bad..."

[@benwalker6530]

“Ladies and gentlemen, there was a small problem there” 😂 the commentator didn’t even spill a drop of tea there!

[@truthteller1246]

74 Gear...King of the aviation channels

[@jamesm3471]

Mentour Pilot is my favorite, but 74 Gear is excellent too. We the viewers are so fortunate to get all this top-shelf aviation content for free!

[@johnboller7621]

Just watched your guest appearance on Z903 radio show. Loved it! Laughed so hard on a lot of stuff and learned a lot too. Good job!

[@foxtanker4055]

Some great videos of the Hercules landing at Sarajevo during the war. They came in basically vertical and at the last second brought it in. Outstanding flying skills.

[@backwater_jack]

His videos never fail to make me smile. So thanks so much!!

[@mephisto8191]

Former Air Force crew chief for the B-1 here. Just wanted to say I love your comprehensive breakdowns of all these videos. Keep em coming 👍

[@johnc2438]

Had to deal with several "combat landings" as a passenger on Air America and U.S. Air Force flights in Vietnam a half-century ago. Still remember them "fondly," especially when, before circling a tiny jungle field before starting one such approach in a Pilatus Porter, the pilot asked everyone to carefully look over the ground and let him know if they saw anything remotely suspicious. I stared intently below, but everything looked just like jungle to me. I would not have been able to see anyone shooting anything at us at all. No tracers coming up at us? We're cleared to land! That Pilatus literally dove down onto the dirt strip. What an impressive plane. Fine video, as always! 😎

[@lvsluggo007]

You want to talk "combat landings", when I, a 19 year old member of the US Army arrived in Vietnam, aboard a Universal Airlines DC8, we were about 1/2 hour out from Ton Son Nuht Airbase, our destination, when the captain came on the PA and announced that the base was under attack, so we would be doing a "combat approach". I had no idea what this was, but I soon found out. It felt like I was on a runaway elevator going DOWN.. What a ride!!!! We touched down, and rolled off the runway between two sandbagged walls. We were rushed off the plane and herded into a bunker. We could hear the shelling in the near distance.. Great way to arrive in Vietnam..

[@JimMork]

Helicopter pilots in Vietnam were lucky not to fly over enemy with RPG launchers.

[@thehun1234]

In 1978 I flew to Victoria Falls Rhodesia (today Zimbabwe) on Air Rhodesia not long after the civilian Air Rhodesia flight 825 was shot down by ZIPRA and murdered the survivors. We approached Vic Falls at a very high altitude and made a similarly steep descent levelling off at the last moment. The pilot warned us in advance, so there was no panic. The plane was a Vickers Viscount. Leaving Vic Falls we did the opposite, for miles we were flying at a very low altitude until we left the danger zone. It was probably the bumpiest ride of my life.

[@BlyGuy]

My buddy was in the Army and did a couple tours in Iraq, faced numerous hairy situations, got a purple Heart. Said by far the scariest part for him was landing back on base.

[@mtkoslowski]

Those Rhodesian times were halcyon days weren’t they?

[@bojoku66]

@@BlyGuy I was working as a civilian in Baghdad in 2003-2004 and flew in and out of BIAP on a Royal Jordanian flight to/from Amman. Their routine was to spiral down from altitude directly over the airport then pull out and up right onto the runway. Thought it was pretty cool! By far, the most dangerous part was the road to/from Baghdad.

[@tariq_sharif]

Were you one of the colonialost / corporate-types who go around the world looting raping and pillaging ? If so an honour to read your message, hopefully the imperialists will not plague humanity fo rmuch longer. If you were just a regular tourist ... hey ho...

[@chris2162003]

Should bomb that place since it's not safe to travel.

[@thunderlightning2210]

I discovered you recently and really enjoy your videos. I find you very presentable on camera and very informative with the amount of detailed information you give each time. I’ve learned a lot from you already. You make an excellent instructor, in case you ever wonder about what to do after you retire from a job you obviously love 😊

[@robertheinkel6225]

We had a KC-135 that was landing at a base in Panama. They came in too high, and attempted an assault style landing. They hit the runway so hard, the #3 engine was ripped from the aircraft. It got back airborne, rolled over upside down and impacted the mountain about three miles away. It takes about 9Gs to tear off an engine.

[@Lethgar_Smith]

I assume there were no survivors.

[@danip3270]

That sounds horrible. I wonder why they didn’t just complete the landing, if the engine is already off, instead of going back up? Unless it was uncontrolled.

[@msg63bretired82]

Wow. Talk about finding out what hell was like.

[@lab1042]

@@danip3270 Probably didn't know the engine was ripped off.

[@robertheinkel6225]

Losing the #3 engine like it did, also meant they lost rudder control, which is necessary to correct for the missing engine. Also, 9 Gs is enough force to cause paralysis of the lower extremities. So they were probably trying to use ailerons to correct for the imbalanced thrust, which caused the aircraft to roll over. I was a crew chief in the USAF for 24 years.

[@flyinryanfpv8763]

There is another possible reason for the fuel venting. It could be because of temperature differential in the air. I used to work for an FBO and always had to be careful of topping off aircraft during the winter months, then pulling them into the warm hangar. You would come back to a big mess in the morning if you forgot. I spent some time in Roswell to help open a new branch. When I was there, it would get down to below freezing at night, then over 75 during the day. Cessna was testing their new Citation X and one of the guys topped off their tanks around midnight, with a planned test flight at 7am. They specifically asked for them to be completely topped, since they knew they would be out before things got too warm. Well the morning flight got cancelled due to wind, so they rescheduled for the afternoon (not thinking about the fuel). When they showed up to the hangar at noon, there was an inch of fuel in the entire hangar and it was still leaking. Had to bring in the airport fire department for cleanup and we all helped. It was a lot of fuel... Anyways, that could be a possible reason, not sure where it is, but it looks like its around sunrise maybe. So things might be getting warming after a cold night. Great video, always love to watch!

[@Kjtravels40]

Plane face plant, ouch! Thanks for the Sunday video, Kelsey, always look forward to it.

[@cowboy9257]

You most definitely should have been in Top Gun. I hope that if Tom makes a third one that you're in it, amigo!! You rock!

[@davidsavage6227]

Always a pleasure to see your videos! Yep, the venting of fuel was more common in hot weather. Landing with super-cold fuel, plus adding fuel for the plane’s next flight, occasionally caused venting of fuel. There is a valve that’s supposed to suppress this problem, but sometimes the valve will get jammed, making it easier to have this fuel problem. This system is very common and can be found in airliners of all shapes and sizes, all the way down to a Cessna 210.

[@badlandskid]

He did that on porpoise.

[@gladdy02]

😮

[@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling]

😂😂😂

[@CL-we8tn]

😂

[@kenbrown2808]

"we call him flipper because he porpoises on every landing" (cartoon from an old flying magazine)

[@Bill23799]

Hehe.

[@davedevonlad7402]

Second crash at fairford I have seen after the Mig29s, I witnessed this and I have some great camera shots of it as it happened right in front of me. It was definitely at RIAT "royal international air tattoo" the G222 obviously bounced after a steep approach and the front wheel broke and poked up through the bottom of the fuselage, the small fire was hydraulic fluid that caught fire but stopped pretty quickly, the landing spot was about half way down the runway so plenty of room for it to land, the three guys onboard all jumped out the back and I remember plenty of foam/powder being sprayed everywhere and clouds of white. It mucked up the flying schedule a bit but they did a great job of sorting it and on Sunday it was fully flying again I believe but not 100 sure as it was 22 years ago for me. It was lifted and supported by a crane and air bags with the front placed on a flatbed truck of some military type I believe and I remember another G222 landing the next day from Italy with spare parts. I was told the pilots who crashed were not allowed to fly it back home, it was fixed pretty quickly and flown back a few days to a week later I believe. I have seen other comments saying the crowd rushed forward and I can confidently confirm they did no such thing it was all really reserved and everyone around me just took pictures. The crash itself was very quiet not what I was expecting at all a bit of scraping but nothing near to what I expected.

[@melissapetty3049]

Great analogy with the water bottle. 😊❤ Your videos.

[@Stinkymole]

I was a witness to this incident at The International Air Tattoo at RAF Fairford in the UK. They shut the last 4000ft of runway in front of the aircrafts resting point and then carried on the flying display shortly afterward using the available 6000ft of runway behind it, whilst clearing the stricken aircraft from it using a crane and strops to lift it of its nose wheel!! Can't see that happening again in todays world. Fairford's runway is just a little over 10000ft and the base is regularly frequented by all USAF heavy Bombers (B52, B1, B2) and also the Lockheed U2.

[@DrDingus]

Hey pal, that's opsec.

[@Zone5Aviation]

I wait to be corrected but wasn’t Fairfords runway designed to be one of the few runways capable of accommodating the space shuttle in case of an abort to orbit situation? Don’t believe it was ever used or tested though.

[@Stinkymole]

@@Zone5Aviation I do believe you are correct.

[@Stinkymole]

@@DrDingus Not really, even the USAF post when the bombers are due to visit Fairford on deployment. What they do and where the fly whilst on deployment to the UK is 'opsec' to a point.

[@laurashapter6287]

Oh my gosh I should have read your comment first. I swear I was right there

[@mjelena]

I seruously need to watch the intro of these type of videos several times - once to see what's going on and a few more times to enjoy Kelsey's reaction. 😂

[@Nefville]

In this combat landing the pilots were their own worst enemy. I bet those landings are fun though, having the nose pointed at the ground so close to it and near zero g... awesome!

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

As a one or two time passenger in one of those landings. No. They are not fun. They are about as far away from fun as they can be.

[@gnarthdarkanen7464]

@@Mostlyharmless1985 The express elevator to Hell??? Meh... It's definitely more fun if YOU are the one with the stick in his hands. ;o)

[@jdod64]

​@@Mostlyharmless1985 kinda like riding shotgun with a bad driver eh?

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

@@jdod64 it’s a three part terror really. One is the crew has a bit of fun with the new guys so they’ll “neglect” to brief the less nervous fliers about the combat landing to make them appropriately scared and over brief the nervous fliers about it to make them overthink every pop and groan. 2: No windows. Every sensation is purely vestibular, it’s disorienting AF just feel like gravity shifted at a weird 45 or something. 3. If you are going to the sorts of places where this maneuver is needed then there’s the real worry in your mind that you’ll get shot down and then you’ll crash and burn in flames forever.

[@sammydavis991]

That will buff right out

[@MrStantheman103]

If I remember correctly I think that was at RIAT in the early 2000s. Think I have some pics of the recovery crane used to lift it back up after the incident. Most of the photographers and crowds are located towards the middle of the runway, so thats probably what the pilots were aiming for.

[@carolharrison1204]

The wonderful G222 RIAT . Was there following year bird strike !

[@cmxpantaloones]

I'm a student pilot right now and in our standard operating procedures in the flight school we have a rule - bounced landing = go-around. The rule has been made after a student made a bounced landing, pushed the nose down hard, ripped the nosewheel off, which caused the plane to land on the nose and tear off the propeller blades in turn.

[@robertgaudet7407]

Any landing you walk away from…

[@captainthez6532]

What happened to the student

[@cmxpantaloones]

@@captainthez6532 Unharmed during the landing, received some additional training before resuming solo flights. I have no further info.

[@davidege3291]

Kelsey, love your videos. Watch every Sunday. Fun to see 2 references to 727. My dad worked for Boeing back then. Gas was 29.9 cents, and 747s were a mere 24 million.

[@paulbennett8516]

Hi Kelsey i was at RIAT at Fairford that day he gave the C-27J nose wheel a real hammering it called it a day he was doing a short field demo landing as it was a airshow

[@craigsowers8456]

I was involved in the initial manufacture of the C-27J (first 26 ships) with Alenia ... they had decades of building C-130J Super Hercs for us. Problem is ... the C-27J is NOT built the same as the Herc; they used "lap" vs the Herc being "dimpled"; the latter is MUCH stronger ... we've lost Hercs where the Wings popped off but the fuselage held together, all crew survived. This particular bird is a total loss ... due to poor decisions on construction methods in Napoli/Milan. That's one of the reasons we dumped the Program ... tried to tell them to at least add sealant between faying surfaces but to no avail ... thought I was "the enemy" ... typical Italian mentality. So when landing in rainy conditions ... pilots know to expect to get water down their necks the moment they touch the brakes. I only know I did what I could to help them help themselves ...

[@bjcombs4336]

Once again, I find the quality of your video reports to be really great. Thank you for what you and your production team puts together. I hope it is appreciated by others as much as I do. Kee p up the great work!

[@ryanworkman3032]

This episode demonstrates why you should do a collaboration with a military pilot KZbinr!

[@martharetallick204]

Blancolirio?

[@PsRohrbaugh]

He's a fighter pilot but I nominate Ward "mooch" Carroll.

[@johnhickman106]

​@@PsRohrbaugh Mooch was an F-14 RIO, not a pilot.

[@airbrushken5339]

I was flown in the Vietnam war on a C-130, from Phu Bai Combat Base South of Hue, to Long Biên.... they had me sit in the crew chief's seat, so I got to watch and talk with the navigator.... one thing he showed me was the air speed, among other things and he explained we needed to drop down FAST to avoid ground fire? At around 180 knots...we just dropped down nose first out of the clouds and then at the last minute we were on that run way ... never wanted to experience that sight, looking out the cockpit window again!! The crew seemed calm, but I had to check my drawers...LOL ... great post...

[@icuranis4597]

I've spent a good time back in the 80's fixing pilot signage. That smell from the fuel makes sense; now that you mentioned kerosene as an ingredient. Thanks, I've learned something again watching your videos.

[@ONE-OF-THREE]

Lol, I was so busy admiring just how beautiful the second airplane looked with the red/pinkish sky in the background, I didn't even notice the fuel mist coming from the wingtip and had to rewatch your video to see what I missed!!!🙃 But I'm also wondering that if the military pilot actually intended to land (not the hard landing🙃) further down the runway than normal, as a way to stick the landing closer to where the airshow spectators were gathered and give them a better view of the landing!!!🔥🔥🔥

[@EXROBOWIDOW]

I'm thinking the same about showing off for the airshow. That was a hot landing, for sure!

[@ukar69]

I was there that day. Not the only incident involving a G222 at RIAT. A deicing boot separated from a prop and punctured the fuselage. Incidents are rare though.

[@cityvibegirl]

More views than sub's. You crushed this Kelsey

[@DLRPyro1]

The surge tanks on B-52s will stop leaking once takeoff roll reaches a certain airspeed due to ram air in the air scoop holding it back then it drains back into the main fuel tanks once airborne and the wingtips flex up which puts the surge tanks higher than the mains.

[@eliasvalenzuela2701]

I remember when I was 8 years old stopping in Medellin from Bogotá to refuel and pick up passengers when I saw the fuel spewing out of the right wing of the 727. Scared the crap out of me seeing the fuel spilling into the runway. Plane took off and finally told the flight attendant. Not sure what was going in those days but definitely an experience to remember at that age.

[@harryhole6347]

The Sarajevo Approach refers to a tactical approach (25-degree slope) that was designed to minimize the time an aircraft was exposed to small arms fire during operations into Sarajevo during the Bosnian War

[@juliaconnell]

thanks Kelsey, really appreciate these videos - as well as 'your' ones. especially appreciate how constructive and informative your approach is - (plus so much *respect* for admitting you've made mistakes/rethought decisions after the fact - I'd much rather fly as a passenger with a pilot that takes this approach, than thinks "i can save this, watch this" each & every time, without reconsidering the decision after the fact, as you've done/you do) - I think, to a certain extent, to be a pilot (not just own plane - responsible for lives of others) - you need a certain amount of confidence in your own abilities, so "i can save this, watch this" as good, great, _needed_ - to a certain point (this role/responsibility, and similar ones, like surgeons for example) - confidence in own ability is _needed_ - it's the ones who get over confident, never admit to any wrong doing, that I'm wary of, just generally, esp in 'responsible' roles like yours so *respect* as a person, as a human being - as well as a pilot.

[@immikeurnot]

That's an Aeritalia G.222, a STOL aircraft. Landing midfield on that size runway would be no problem if the pilots did it right. Wikipedia says it can land as short as 1800 feet.

[@ndenise3460]

Need a DHC-5, twin otter performance in a 50k airplane. The demo guys landed it in a baseball field

[@chrisparker9886]

​@@ndenise3460That's not a military cargo plane! 😂

[@chrisparker9886]

I thought it was a Spartan.

[@gtaylor2770]

@@chrisparker9886 From Wikipedia: "The United States purchased a small number of G.222s, designating them the C-27A Spartan."

[@chemputer]

@@gtaylor2770 Which are no longer in use, but the upgraded C27J Spartan is. I find it fascinating that it was initially designed for VTOL, but they cut that capability, and went for STOL, reversible props to provide retro thrust to help stop the plane as quickly as possible.

[@richardhillier442]

Thanks Kel. Great job as usual 👏 👍

[@theolddm]

I flew on a C130 back in the late 80s (was in the jumpseat) and we came in to Incirlik AB in Turkey. They did this maneuver and I was like "OMG" as they didn't tell me they were going to do this. It's quite an experience, let me tell you.

[@timothy-2614]

Dude Kelsey, I love your comments like the one you started with. You're hilarious. Laughed hard at the combat landing comment too.

[@NikolaiUA]

I think if you're floating down the rwy, and you've already rolled the power all the way back, like Kelsey said, in that case before trying to push the nose over, you can try adding some wing spoilers to break the wing lift, you're going to kinda fall onto the runway from your floating altitude, it's probably going to be a rough touchdown, but better than risking the nose gear. I think.

[@SirCarlosMusicBMI]

Thank you Kelsey for sharing another awesome video. You always amaze me with your honesty and information. Blessings, Carlos ✝️🙏❤️😊❗️

[@averyj8160]

This happened at RAF Fairford during the Royal International Air Tattoo air show. He had plenty of runway left. This was one of the locations allocated to the space shuttle to use if it needed to land before it could get back to its home base. That’s how long the runway is. It landed where it did because that’s where the viewing crowd was.

[@KevinJCoburn]

RAF Fairford's Runway is 9990 feet long. That's just about as long as Kelsey estimated for this analysis. If it's 7000 feet from that sign to the far end of the runway, then they only have 3000 feet of runway left after they pass that sign.

[@aserta]

Were you there? I'm curious if the gear broke or if it wasn't fully deployed.

[@poppybonnie]

I was there as well The front undercarriage went up into the cockpit I think If I remember right they propped the front of the g222 onto the back of a lorry

[@SirGranular]

I was there. Despite all the smoke etc. There was a rush as the crowd surged towards it....god knows why. I was off in the other direction, there were less of us doing that it felt like.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

Context of the video suggested it was an air show. Thanks for clarifying that by identifying which show it was.

[@stevenwilson8718]

Thank you for these videos!

[@kenbrown2808]

a correction: kerosene is actually less volatile than gasoline. and there have been times when an airplane dumped fuel too low over an occupied area, and it did rain kerosene. the bigger distinction is that since the kerosene is less volatile, there is less risk of accidental ignition.

[@sharoncassell9358]

It could fill a diesel truck.

[@drhoops6937]

Came to say this. Jet A has a vapor pressure similar to diesel fuel and gasoline is about 150 times higher (depending on temperature of course).

[@ethanboyd7843]

Yup! As a kid I literally dropped lit wooden matches into tin cans of deisel and keroseen just to watch them go out. This is how fire spitters blow mists onto torches without dying like the Nazi Doctor in Raiders of the Lost Arc.

[@kenbrown2808]

@ethanboyd7843 I'm worse. When i was a kid i learned to put matches out in gasoline. It has to be cold and you have to be fast.

[@kenbrown2808]

@sharoncassell9358 only with a multifuel adapter or an injector adjustment, otherwise it will run badly.

[@geos569]

That combat landing earned the nickname of the Sarajevo Approach, during the Bosnian war in the mid 1990s. There is a similar corkscrew maneuver performed over the Baghdad airport. Some call it the Baghdad Corkscrew.

[@capicolaspicy]

I could clearly see that on the second bounce, the front landing gear tilted back slightly. I replayed it in Slo-mo a couple of times. Possibly damaged on the first bounce, but stayed perpendicular to the underside of the body, and on the second bounce I see it move a slight angle back. That would be some scary stuff!

[@TheGospelQuartetParadise]

It looks like at the beginning he almost flared but didn't. That may have taken a bit of weight off the nose wheel. Kelsey I cannot get any airline pilot to tell me how you maintain the centerline while taxiing. I saw an aircraft on a live planespotting stream that the nose wheel was a foot or so to the right of the centerline. Is there like a zone that you maintain or are they supposed to stay on that centerline. Is there a camera in the nose to keep you cognizant of where that nose wheel is in relation to the centerline since you are generally sitting over the nose wheel and cannot see under you?

[@C.Church]

I wonder if your analytics can tell you how much of your videos are rewound in parts. I rewind yours a LOT. For every 10 minutes I watch 13. That's when you know it's good. 👍

[@allmybasketsinoneegg]

The added pressure of being at a live airshow probably help the pilots make the best decisions. Still a landing they could walk away from, so good job.

[@North_West1]

Less pressure than the automatic Chaf defenses going off from a suspected surface to air missile.

[@fifthcircle1]

Had an ex-navy pilot take me along on a post maintenance test flight in a Beech Bonanza. Tower asked if he was able to expedite when we were on final. "No problem" was his reply.... He grinned at me and said "you ready?" I replied sure! Combat landing! It was fun, and we were on the first taxiway before I knew it. He called we were clear of the active, and the tower said "nice approach, contact ground..." 🤣

[@russbug3766]

I was at that Airshow Royal Internation Air tattoo at RAF Fairford, the runway was shut for a couple of hours and stopped the show.

[@benreeve9773]

RAF Fairford has a 10000-foot runway, so I think that was the 1.7 and 1.8 mile markers. We ended up with about 3 or 4 hours of helicopter-only displays for that day of the Air Tattoo!! At least it was less scary than when the MiGs collided by the camping site!!

[@rdspam]

It has the same 1,000 foot markers as every airport. He touched down with about 6,000 feet remaining in the opposite direction, so a bit under 4,000 feet left on 9,990 ft. Runway 09.

[@thatjpwing]

Excellent video. I porpoised a Cherokee 140 during my initial training, on the second bounce I went full power fast enough to not hit it a third time. It wouldn't have been pretty. Great explanation of why that's a bad thing on here.

[@rdewilde100]

"that's what we do, smash airplanes to bits" 😂😂😂😂😂❤

[@cymbalspecialist]

Thanks Kelsey! ❤

[@jamesm3471]

Well, it’s always preferred to crush the gear below you, than to crush everything above it.

[@mikhailaharris6230]

You and Mentor Pilot are fav flying vids! Brief clip of "Pan Am" is a 747 SP(special performance) which I used to park at JFK's Worldport (both of which are now GONE no less?!) Am 2008 Delta ATL gates/ticketing/ramp RETIRED but was at Pan Am's QNY shuttle when PA ops ceased in '91. Father, hired in 1956, went on to become Pan Am's Chief Pilot Atlantic and remember, as a 12yr kid, flying the then 😎😎😎new 707 simulators at JFK cargo WHAT FUN! 😎

[@rebelrrp]

I'm not a chemist but I did work in the oilfield for a long time. I'm not sure how correct you are about kerosene. Basic hydrocarbon chemistry is structured so that gas contains hydrocarbons with 7 or 8 carbon atoms. Kerosene contains hydrocarbons with around 10. That makes kerosene heavier than gas and less able to dissipate like you said. In air it will dissipate because it will separate from itself causing a mist during a hot day this mist will heat up and cause a lots of the kerosene to evaporate. This is why a few years back when that plane was in the news for dumping fuel in the wrong area it caused so many problems because the kerosene didn't dissipate before hitting the ground. The question here is what was the volume being expelled? Was it coming out like an aerosol and because of the size of the mist just looked like a large volume? Or was it coming out in enough quantity to hit the ground. A runway inspection should have been done quickly to resolve this question.

[@csterett]

As a retired volunteer firefighter, I can tell you that you are on the money about kerosene vs. gasoline. Gasoline is lighter that kerosene and evaporates more readily. Kerosene isn't as volatile as gasoline and has a higher vapor density. Kerosene doesn't flash like gasoline.

[@DrDeuteron]

FOD is FOD

[@stevengill1736]

On that nose wheel loss: I'm impressed that they can pull out of a dive like that so quickly! Luckily no one was hurt, but scenes like that make me wanna go to another air show! Cheers...

[@NikolaiUA]

Yeah, I couldn't understand as well why was he comparing jet fuel to gas, when jet fuel is so much closer to such a widespread fuel as diesel that everyone is familiar with (unless you've only driven gasoline passenger cars in your life, of course)

[@rebelrrp]

@@csterett Thank you, if I recall the flash point of gas is -50° and the flash point of diesel is 110°. I have only been on the crude oil side but the finished product guys tell me that technically diesel have to be placarded flammable it is combustible.

[@Apokalypze2077]

That was at RAF Fairford for the international air tattoo 2002 (i was there) The Italian J222 went in for a short landing but hit too hard..

[@carewser]

I've always wondered why when planes dump fuel it doesn't rain down on people but now I know it quickly dissipates into the air because it's mostly kerosene so thanks for explaining that Kelsey 👍

[@melissalentz32]

Yay - another Kelsey video! Learned something new again. Thank you!

[@DelphineDofain]

Imagine getting the "Prop Strike" nickname while piloting an helicopter

[@walmartdog1142]

I used to work for a propane dealer. Smaller fuel tanks like grill bottles or fork lift bottles were usually filled until fuel started coming out of the "10 %" valve, which was opened prior to filling the tank.

[@TheSjuris]

It’s still the case.

[@DRV-mt5dd]

Not mine, I think I get ripped off about 30% of the time, LOL.

[@immango5007]

Thanks for the video Capitan!

[@chesh1rek1tten]

He's FO, not Cpt.

[@Anna_Xor]

​@@chesh1rek1tten He's Captain of The 74Crew! Kelsey has moved up to Cruise Relief Captain so he's almost there, all he needs is to wait a bit.

[@Tera_GX]

I feel like the editing quality leveled up on this one! I'm glad you explained what happens to the leaked fuel. I've been wondering about that one a lot.

[@ThomasLuethi]

When we were stationed in FYROM, our pilots used the same approach to limit the time in which they can be easily shot at, usually together with a spiraling 180 last second turn... Was especially fun, as it was a freight version of the Fokker F27 with some seating behind the freight space, and direct view to the cockpit...

[@stephenrogers4537]

Good afternoon to you, Kelsey from Chicago. I hope this day finds you and yours as well, BROTHER ! KEEP THE BLUE SIDE UP 🛩🫡

[@JayMaverick]

I can't imagine the skill needed to pull off that landing successfully, much less so under the pressure of a real combat situation.

[@shaukatjaved7602]

Very informative, quite interesting one . Now I know more while I didn’t know before, like the kind of fuel, I always thought its a super duper quality that are used in jet engines. And there are some other points which I never knew before. Thanks bro.

[@ImpendingJoker]

Kelsy, love your videos man but gasoline has a lower vapor point than Jet-A. Jet-A is closer to kerosene but it's other name, dry diesel should be an indicator of what it really is. As a result it will remain in liquid form longer than AvGas or automobile gasoline. A lot of this is due to the additives in Jet-A to reduce the possibility of combustion in the tanks, which increases the vapor point and decreases the temperature at which the fuel will freeze. Jet fuel itself doesn't freeze, it is the water in it that freezes because Jet-A is anhydrous and absorbs ambient water easily leading to slushy fuel when cold(the reason for fuel warming systems), and microbial growth(which despite what people say, can happen in AvGas as well if it sit long enough)

[@ericfielding2540]

Another great explanation of two airplane situations.

[@thorssensgamesNCC1701]

That (the second airplane) reminds me of the scene in DIE HARD where the tank was made to leak and it did so as it left. But since Kerosene is less is less volatile than automotive gas/petrol, the scene where the fuel burns up to a departing airplane flying at destroys it becomes highly unlikely.

[@kevingould6725]

As Kelsey pointed out Jet engines use Kerosene. The fuel used on these aircraft have loads of additives for various reasons. So this fuel can not be used in home heating. However it has been used in diesel cars when mixed about 50/50 with diesel. I know in the military we have an anti ice inhibitor additive in it (FSII). Big aircraft like Kelsey’s 747 have fuel heaters so can run without this particular additive. Now we was told that FSII had a secondary use, that is stopping a type of fungus called Cladosporium Resinee which breeds in fuel tanks and can block fuel filters.

[@psinclairjr]

Wing Commander: WTH happened? Pilots: Sir/Ma'am does oopsie suffice

[@CookingCanningAndBaking]

When you showed the TWA aircraft, it threw me right back to Catch Me If You Can. Was your friend's dad's name Frank Abignail Jr? 😂😅😂

[@m118lr]

I’m REALLY surprised that NOSE gear collapsed..even with that ‘porpoising’ effect, which in reality was very slight. That gear is designed/supposed to handle THAT landing with relative ease. My guess something else possibly in combination with the landing..didn’t maintain its parameters of support ie, a seal or something. These aircraft are designed for ‘STOL’ requirements..

[@robertheinkel6225]

The nose gears are extremely tough. Unusual that it failed.

[@m118lr]

@@robertheinkel6225 ..exactly. Like I had said previously, it is designed for ‘OFF-field, STOL’ engagements..

[@brentsummers7377]

0:40 If this was a Piper or Cessna, the instructor would say 'I have control' & around you go for another attempt on your journey to a 1st solo flight😂😂

[@maddmatt55]

That type of landing is called a Khe-Sanh approach. It was first used in the Viet-Nam siege of the same name it was to reduce the chances of the aircraft being hit by ground fire. It was most recently used in Afghanistan at Camp Bastion! I was fortunate to see it demonstrated at the British Army school of Artillery Larkhill where it was a C-130 Hercules onto a grass runway, the plane stopped in a very short distance, turned using differential thrust, then backed using reverse thrust and then performed a very short takeoff!! The Royal Air Force showing just how skilled their pilots are!!!

[@robertsears8323]

I have also heard this call a Sarajevo landing.

[@BaikalTii]

it may have been called a Khe Sahn approach but now it's called a Sarajevo approach. Air defense during the siege of Sarajevo was much more sophisticated than at Khe Sahn or Afghanistan. the glide slope is 25 degrees, btw

[@paulturner2911]

Just for info, that first clip of the G222 was filmed at the Royal International Air Tattoo (RIAT) at RAF Fairford, UK. The runway there is VERY long, and is on loan to the USAF where it's currently used for deployments of B1's, B52's, and also the U2's. It's usually a very quite and lonely place unless RIAT is on, in which case on departures day after the shows, it's busier than Heathrow for about 2 hours!

[@Ilix42]

I imagine a go around is less ideal in a situation where you can be shot at anytime you’re outside the borders of the airport.

[@TheNixie1972]

But would that be worse than damaging your aircraft? Making a swift departure impossible?

[@Ilix42]

@@TheNixie1972 Your departure is just as impossible if the plane is hit with a SAM during the go around, but at least this way the plane is recoverable.

[@johnnunn8688]

I had cycled to the show, intending to watch from outside the fence. Just propped my bike against the fence, this happened, went home. 😂🤣

[@sanandaallsgood673]

I was on a C-130 Hercules that flew from Dague, South Korea to Danang, South Vietnam during the Vietnam war and we did that very type of dive landing, which is TOTALLY unnerving, believe me! Not something I want to repeat. LOL

[@icelandviking1961]

Looks a lot funnier in the front seats. With the loadmaster telling us about all your faces.

[@fredMplanenut]

Royal Air Force Fairford was also used during developing Concorde due to it's long runway. This pilot was showing the steep approach but the bounce caused him them to land with more force on the nosewheel which collapsed.

[@declaration9704]

I was told the "Combat landing" was first called the Sarajevo Dive. Not sure if that's true

[@chrisbentleywalkingandrambling]

Yes it is/was. Or Sarajevo Approach.

[@jameslong8382]

I am not a pilot or plan to become one. Your Chanel is fascinating, good job.

[@darioanais1125]

Hi Kelsey. What are your views on skiplagging? Can you do a video on the pros and cons of skiplagging and how you could get your luggage off the plane at the stopover etc? Thanks

[@bobh6728]

I don’t see why airlines would be against skiplagging, even though it seems they are. You paid to go from A to C, with a stopover at B. If you get off at B, the airline gets the same amount of money and doesn’t have to carry your weight to C. Are there other disadvantages to the airline other than they could have sold you a higher priced ticket from A to B? But then because of the price, you may not take any trip at all. The luggage could be a problem.

[@canadave]

@@bobh6728 Here's why airlines don't like skiplagging. With skiplagging, you fly from A to B, but paid for A to C via B. The B to C leg is empty. If you hadn't skiplagged, and simply bought a ticket from A to B, the airline could've sold that seat to someone else to fly from B to C. And remember, the whole reason you bought a skiplagged ticket in this scenario is because A to C (via B) was cheaper than A to B; so if you hadn't skiplagged, the airline would've collected more money from you for your direct A to B ticket, PLUS could've sold that seat from B to C to someone else. That's why airlines are against the practice.

[@mwbgaming28]

Thanks to security requirements, if a passenger is not on the aircraft, the baggage that belongs to that passenger will be offloaded Air India 182 was destroyed by a terrorist bomb because the airline didn't remove a bag that was onboard when a passenger didn't get onboard the aircraft after the stopover So yes, you can skiplag all you want and your bags will come with you wherever you decide to get off the magic metal bird

[@antoinebonnet4340]

@@canadave yes, but you are not answering the underlying question: why are they selling A-B-C cheaper than A-B ?

[@canadave]

@@antoinebonnet4340 The person I was replying to was asking why airlines are against skiplagging. I answered him. As to your question, you're welcome to seek answers. Airline pricing involves myriad factors and I have no idea why A-B-C sometimes costs less than A-B.

[@aerotube7291]

Kelsey, I'd have to say you are probably my favourite airplane expert.....there is something beautifully humourous....the facials on the title screens say so much...keep well Nd fly safe

[@MrShenron89]

My mentality is that you gotta be ready to land incase you can't go around. To help with this, I will occasionally save a bad landing that isn't horrible. For the most part, just go around but occasionally saving one should help hone in your skills.

[@hsbvt]

That dive had my stomach in my throat! LOL I had a flight that once took a dive into JFK. We were minding our own business and then woosh...down we went. My kids freaked, I detached their finger nails from my arms looked at my watch 5:30 pm. "Oh, they cleared us to land quickly so the heavies from across the pond could get in." It was a Madagascar moment...there was a second of zero G. Kid that was on the right arm just graduated high school yesterday and is going to flight school in the fall!