Terrorists Hijack Plane | Dark Knight Rises

[@indyjons321]

The air crash investigators are going to have a lot of fun with figuring out that one....

[@Caffeine_K9]

Agreed

[@chabka34]

(How did air cut the tail off?!?!?!?)

[@chuckymcnubbin1518]

@@chabka34 they used cutting charges (supposedly). It is a film after all. More to the point, why didn't the explosives from the tail removal scene affect the drag cables attached to the Embraer?

[@EfftupSmith]

@@chuckymcnubbin1518 I think his comment is more that they are staging a crash but because of the way they have taken the plane the air crash investigators are going to find the tail blew off AFTER the wings and bullet holes all over the plane etc. There is no way they would not find this extremely fishy.

[@maciek8159]

Chucky McNubbin A shape charge?

[@ermak4ever]

One of main issues disregarded: C-130 is holding the whole weight of embraer through cables, that are connected to C-130 somewhere near tail. That wold shift C-130-s center of mass to the back, far behind the wings and C-130 would instantly become aerodynamically unstable. Then in a second - uncontrolled nose up and stall. Then crash.

[@willschultz5452]

The C-130 is made to carry a lot of heavy equipment. in comparison that little plane is probably like a feather to it so I doubt it would have any effect on the stability of that big C-130, if it did it probably wouldn't be much, the Embraer 110 I believe weighs less than 20,000 pounds so that would be nothing to the C-130

[@garyb4149]

@@willschultz5452 To put 20,000 pounds at the very back of a C-130 would definitely put the aircraft center-of-gravity to far aft to continue flying. A C-130's max load for cargo is 45,000 lbs (for the older ones) and I think 60,000 lbs for the newer ones. So to put 1/2 to 1/3 of the max weight at the rear of the plane would be instant loss of flight. The CG of the entire aircraft has to be maintained within 24 inches of the center of the wing to keep flying. I used to be a loadmaster flying USMC C-130s.

[@revmatch2648]

What if they had a rolling ballast weight inside to shift the weight as needed between having the hooked aircraft and the cruise over with out it?! :) haha just some ideas

[@gpaull2]

There have been C130 crashes caused by cargo getting hung up aft of the CG when pushing cargo out the back while in flight. In this case you’re adding the drag as well as the weight.

[@Tuberuser187]

I think a military pilots perspective on this would be more valid in some respects, C-130s are designed for shifting loads as they drop cargo in flight. Either at very low level or at higher altitudes, literally weights of up to 15,000KG/34,000lb shifting from the centre (where the wings are) too the rear and straight through the hatch. Thats a massive and rapid shift of the centre of gravity, when its done just a few meters above the ground there is no room for error so their must be a way of compensating for it, perhaps thats why the flaps where deployed or they pump fuel around in preparation. Automated anti stall systems might also play a factor, again the flaps might be key as they are deployed for lift with the aircraft trimmed hard nose down.

[@Gunnariffic]

Even after learning more about how unrealistic this all is, I still find that this is one of the most jaw-dropping action sequences ever

[@Galm_1]

You must be new to the genre. This scene was as boring as Dark Fate.

[@Gunnariffic]

@@Galm_1 haha thanks for the morning laugh

[@deven2795]

maybe you already know this but Christopher nolan actually had a plane carry another plane for this shot. He actually got the studio to agree on this. the madlad

[@rnilu86]

Because over the top and unrealistic things attract the audience. A very realistic action sequence will be boring I guess.

[@GeneralG1810]

@@rnilu86 Yeah if all movies were based on real life they'd all be boring as shit.

[@mr_wildschwein]

"I am only 6 foot tall" "you are a big guy"

[@julianblake8385]

For you!

[@ploppyjr2373]

6 foot isn’t tall. Like, I’m 6’2 and I’m barely average compared to classmates

[@CountlessPWNZ]

@@ploppyjr2373 me too, like, im gay too.

[@CountlessPWNZ]

based, more bane bosting

[@Heinrich_Kronen]

@@CountlessPWNZ 🤣🤣🤣

[@VanquishedAgain]

Investigation board: Fascinating! The plane flew for several miles with no wings at a few hundred feet of altitude

[@lightningxx]

Right? lol

[@TyrantJaeger]

Autopsy report: Curious. We ran a blood test on this body and identified him as Dr. Pavel. But the DNA in his saliva and skin flakes says otherwise. Also, it looks nothing like him.

[@terrgle]

this. atleast there are the correct number of bodys with the fuselage.

[@Danilego]

"Or perhaps he is wondering why someone would shoot a man, before throwing him out of a plane". Am I the only one who thinks Bane sounds super badass?

[@patrickm5217]

I hate the voice personally

[@thesisko5645]

@Maybe it’s Just me beacuse the actor who plays him is Tom Hardy and he's british.

[@thesisko5645]

@Maybe it’s Just me yes he was a nacho libre from mexico in the comics, the filmmaker and actor wanted to make thier own version and frankly i prefer the intelligent British bane to the mexican wrestler (i may be biased cause im from britain)

[@grdprojekt]

@Maybe it’s Just me because Tom Hardy is British?

[@jaredtimme5851]

All his dialogue is bad ass but his voice is so high pitched its not menacing

[@tyjoseph7343]

Awesome video! I too am a pilot, and I love the dark knight series, so this video was epic! Just a few things I noticed/corrections for you: 1. - The interior is that of an Embraer EMB 120, not a 110, so it’s actually a slightly larger, taller and wider cabin version than the 110. And proof they used the EMB 120 to film the interior and a EMB 110 for the exterior shots. 2 . - While it was shot in Scotland, the scene takes place in Africa, so the South African registration makes a lot of sense. Nice catch, it’s nice to know other people also catch those things in movies, haha. 3. - The Scene with the L-100 (Aka C-130) actually makes sense. The Embraer is Flying a lot lower than cruising altitude, likely because the CIA guy asked them to fly a lower altitude and slower speed so they could open the doors without too much cabin turbulence. At such a speed, it would make sense for a Hercules to deploy its flaps in order to maintain a slower speed and level attitude.

[@popefish8522]

1:44 Oh boy does seeing the slide on that gun not move grinds my f***ing gears! Anywho, love the vid!

[@74gear]

thanks Kapkan, glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching and commenting.

[@allen4360]

Tachanka better

[@popefish8522]

@@allen4360 TaChAnKa BeTtEr. Of course! We all know the lord is better than the fragile man! Praise be to him.

[@RooonilWazlib]

Also if he already fired a shot there would be no need to cock the hammer later at 1:54

[@carterschaf8691]

In addition the slide doesn’t rack from the shot and there is no muzzle flash. Just a gunshot noise is made. Talk about lazy

[@BoReD2HaRd]

74 gear is one of Bane's men who took part in this hijacking and is trying to discredit what happened to cover his tracks. Not falling for it. The Fire Rises.

[@abcdabcdoops]

Its going to be painful

[@visceraeyes525]

@@abcdabcdoops youre a big guy

[@Kevsteroni77]

@@visceraeyes525 for you

[@jefbozies3707]

They expect one of them in the wreckage brother

[@jgv2699]

@@jefbozies3707 Have you started the fire?

[@ismamuller1]

Kelsey, I know this is an older video, but I was just recently introduced to your channel. As one of the engineers responsible for the modernization of the Embraer 110 (or Bandeirante, as we call over here) of the Brazilian Air Force, I can definitely attest to the fact that that interior is not of a EMB110. One thing they got right though is that the back door does open inwards… that door depicted is definitely not an EMB 110 door, but in the actual plane it does open inwards.

[@h4tchetman]

Only... only six feet tall? S*** I wish I was 'only' six foot lol

[@matteframe]

Wtf is a "commercial guy"??

[@bribartman8578]

At 5'5" being short does have some advantages.

[@chuckymcnubbin1518]

Being short isn't so bad. If you were walking down the sidewalk with a 6 ft+ tall friend and you both saw a $50 note on the ground, who'd get to it first? The short person or the tall? That's right, the short person as there's less distance to travel to get to the $50. Mind you though, Gigantor could just simply kick shortstack out of the way and BAM!, hightower now has $50. 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂.

[@apple54345]

@You Have Horses U U U U

[@theasianguygaming4724]

Bruce woolford yeah because that’s an everyday scenario everyone can relate to 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@knuble]

I bet that when the big guy opened his door the embraer pilot thought he picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue

[@killian9314]

@@SentientSingularity yes i am, and don't call me shirley

[@killian9314]

I just came here to wish you good luck and we are all counting on you

[@slidey1000]

siri used to say things like that to me all the time. My phone was stuck in airplane mode.

[@ComicBookGuy420]

Lol airplane jokes, love 'em, even the bad ones

[@rctjacksonville]

My cousin worked on this film, both planes were leased by the movie maker. The 110 was actually in Scotland but was in fact from South Africa, because the company these planes were leased from is home based there. The company does have offices in several nations so their planes can be registered in many countries. The Studio had to carry insurance for damage on both planes additionally to the insurance the leasing company has. If you notice during the scenes when you can see the 110 now wingless and hanging, there is no ground speed under them. The 110 is just hanging at a slight angle to make it appear as if there is speed, but notice the cables are creating the angle not wind speed. This because the stunt was done using a Helicopter suspension that was stationary. It's also why they never show an angle with the men on the 110 and the C130. Hats off to them for not using CG, all these scenes were actually at a decent altitude it's also the reason it was not just filmed over say Colorado. In the United States it is almost impossible for permits to obtained for extreme stunts like this, especially when airplanes are used.

[@SpecialEDy]

The wing spars would be stronger than some magnets attached to the fuselage, the wing roots should be the sturdiest part of the airframe I would think.

[@TangyLlama]

Yes, this is a valid point. The wings were unrealistically weak. Normally, the strongest part of an aircraft is the wing box (where the wings connect with the fuselage). Also, the wings would flex and cause lots of drag for the c-130.

[@JimJam1069]

Also worth noting, I believe most aircraft fuselages are generally constructed from some sort of titanium or aluminum alloy correct? If so, the magnets wouldn't actually hold to begin with

[@Bladezstorm]

More drag than A C-130 Going at that power shouldn't be able to hold its Altitude

[@sigmasquadleader]

@@JimJam1069 Absolutely. I read the parent comment saying magnets and my brain exploded because I thought they were always hooks.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

Could the C-130 even pull off this stunt without going into a stall?

[@3dartxsi]

The use of flaps was almost certainly to facilitate filming and safety. You've got likely a helicopter circling these two planes to get these external shots, flying slowly makes doing that much easier. Also, you've got three aircraft operating in very close proximity, flying very slowly probably reduces the risks of midair collision.

[@ArsenicApplejuice]

Thoughts on the flaps on the C130. Is it so it can go slow for filming? A lot of big budget movies prefer to mount cameras on helicopters to get airborne shots. Sound reasonable?

[@stefanofioravanti709]

Yess for me😂

[@honestreviews9831]

The flaps could be the plane slowing down to match the smaller planes speed. It caught up and then had to slow down.

[@willschultz5452]

@@honestreviews9831 yes that's what I'm thinking or it would have flown right past the smaller plane

[@skrljr2934]

It's CGI.

[@AutisticVegan]

Or because it was about to have support the weight of another fucking aircraft so that was the director trying to show that

[@psps6623]

9:51 It's probably more of a tactical move than it is a standard pre-boarding at La Guardia. Same reason swat enters through windows when there's a perfectly good door they can single-file through :D

[@mdyiya]

A lot of things in, “The Dark Knight Rises” doesn’t make sense. Like why the CIA brought men upon their plane without knowing who they are first. Right?

[@MichaelJohnson-]

Like how did we miss this blatantly obvious mask wearing guy before tagging and bagging lol.

[@kingtigertank72]

first of all...what has the CIA DONE RIGHT ANYWAY??....so i guess this wuld be normal

[@matteframe]

It's a fucking comic book movie.

[@youtuuba]

@@MichaelJohnson- , that objection is answered in the movie.....

[@v-trigger6137]

that CIA guy was acting like he was born yesterday. I mean seriously what did he done right anyway? if something makes this scene most unrealistic then that would be only him

[@FurryWrecker911]

"I'm only 6' tall" _Cries in 5'4_

[@linda10989]

Cries in 4'10" You're supermodel height compared to me 😭

[@RudiW1510]

Bunch of dwarfs and smurfs.

[@phrixus8118]

*Cries in 5'6*

[@scottmatheson3346]

@@yousquiddingme so you're saying it's not about penis size?

[@theosloan6880]

Cries in 6’4

[@stevewaclo167]

Somewhere was there a technical consultant shouting “NO, NO, NO!”?

[@ezramax1643]

The flight plan didn't mention a technical consultant.

[@chosenArchitec]

while reluctantly oking somethings

[@MarkH10]

Very often that does not matter. Lee Marvin left behind an interview wherein he described his hatred for "The Dirty Dozen" He was a WWII Marine and resented 100% of the movie. Wouldn't see it.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

@@MarkH10 Lee Marvin was such a badass. They don't make actors like that anymore. All a bunch of Hollywood pussies. Even Harrison Ford was a real working guy before he started acting. Of course he sucks as a pilot but that's a different story.

[@MagnarNordal]

The cabin is 5 ft 3 inches high (1,60 m) and is not pressurized. Funny how spacious cabins are in Hollywood.

[@Ratboy2004]

And quiet

[@andrewvancleef2482]

Watch Executive Decision. The forward aviononics compartment on the 747 is like the Tardis. They were having a town meeting in there.

[@hugoslr]

they did the same for titanic. widened everything so it would look more grand than the actual ship.

[@johnknapp952]

On the C-130 there is a speed limit of 150 KIAS with cargo door open and ramp down (which it is in the shot I saw). And you can have about 70% flaps to maintain stability. If the ramp was up and locked then you can do 185 KIAS. So at those speeds the Embraer can run away from the C-130. One other small detail, when the guy shoots the pistol I didn't see a shell casing being extracted or slide moving.

[@ConanOG]

I guess the pilots of the Embraer knew about the door that was going to open so they slowed the speed for it?

[@jaradgreen6013]

NATOPS limitation is 250KIAS with the ramp and door open and locked.

[@pathann99]

@@jaradgreen6013 only if you have a high speed ramp a door. this 130 is a A/ B model (you can tell because the external tank are outboard of the #1 and 4 ) The high speed ramp and door was not introdused until the E model and then was only used on the MC-130E / HC-130P

[@doesitmatter1667]

John Knapp the SOCOM Mk23 USP, which I suspect he’s using, has a function where you can lock the slide to prevent a round from being ejected or the slide from cycling, to decrease noise when using suppressors. Why he would have that function on is beyond me, but it’s possible

[@markplott4820]

John - how FAST can a C-130 go when Deploying a Sled from the rear carrying a JEEP , like in the Living Daylights ?

[@ForensicsLabwithDrDan]

Sweet - would love to hear your take on the Malaysian airline disappearance

[@00BillyTorontoBill]

me too. Already talked to my buddy whos a A320 captain.

[@74gear]

🤔 I hate speculating but I will give it some thoughts Dr. Dan

[@ForensicsLabwithDrDan]

@@74gear I totally understand, It's a really open ended video. Not sure what exactly you'd focus on, but it'd be interesting however you took it.

[@joeundercoffer2567]

I agree!

[@benconway9010]

Well actually im now hearing in the news that the captain may have committed suicide and murderer all the passengers only going by wat the news said

[@smokingspitfire1197]

The Embraer EMB110 has a cabin height of 5ft3. So the first point is even worse!

[@amscreations1634]

It would be realistic if they had made the whole scene in cgi, but the whole scene was shot in the air so fuel and cables from the wings can be ignored.

[@sambrainard3487]

Your right, but he didn't because it looks WAY better.

[@nadavegosi3514]

A lot of this is CGI, and green screen and simulations and such.

[@sickkick8268]

@@nadavegosi3514 Christopher nolan didn't use any CGI in the part of the movie bro

[@dafuture2457]

@@nadavegosi3514 you clearly don't know who Christopher Nolan is, that guy hates using cgi, he didn't even used cgi on interstellar. So nope, he didn't used cgi here

[@railerswim]

DaFuture and when he did use CGI (specifically for the black hole) he made sure it was so good that it actually contributed to science and to this day is the model used for studying black holes.

[@mdruryscs]

I've always enjoyed the super hero genre since I was a young kid. Now that I have a son and he shares my fondness of the genre, we get to enjoy together. We especially loved the Christopher Nolan Batman films. Thanks for another great video Kelsey!!!

[@74gear]

awesome Martin, glad you can enjoy these things together!

[@dwightsummy2439]

Kelsey, I like your breakdown of movie scenes. When I taught physics in HS, I challenged students to bring in DVD’s of absurdities in Hollywood thrillers like The Dark Knight and show us their “Bad Physics” - for extra credit. You’d get an “A+”! Keep them coming.

[@spencerfalzy]

Dwight Summy yeah but all of this video actually happened. It was shot in the air with actual planes.

[@Kaipeternicolas]

I think there is a few things that he pointed out here that aren't correct. The Embraer was also flying with its FLAPS down when they opened the door, so it does make sense that the much bigger and heavier C130 with a higher stall speed also has its FLAPS retracted even-though it's catching up to the Embraer, The whole reason why the blew the tail off was to get Bane and Dr. Pavel on a rope and then disconnect the embraer from the C130 and have bane and Dr.Pavel escape easily and dramatically. By having the tail open, it was also easier to get the body bag in and 2 men with guns, vs having to go through the tight door 1 by 1 and shooting the CIA officers. So I think some points that were pointed our are true, others are very debatable. Great scene no matter what! ;)

[@kendog52361]

Also, I'm not sure the team knew that door opened inward. They had to get everything set up, ahead of time, so they may not have know whether the Agency Plane door opened inward or outward, so blowing the rear removes that potential issue, entirely.

[@kendog52361]

@David Roberts While it's been 3 months since I wrote the above, I think I was referring more to the idea that the "bad guys" didn't know ahead of time exactly which plane would be chosen. The "good guys" could have chosen/been using a different plane, with a different door method, hence instead of the bad guys hoping they got a plane that worked, they bypassed the whole thing by using explosives.

[@omarjones1460]

A CIA aircraft would be modified so that operatives could parachute out. Also a side door entry for Bane's team would never be possible. The registry could be anything to disguise the the true operators of the aircraft. The CIA doesn't follow normal rules.

[@trebot9292266]

dunno about great, pretty lackluster tbh.

[@Peter_Cordes]

I assume the exterior shots were filmed from a helicopter (instead of a more expensive Learjet), and that's why both planes had to be flying so slow they needed (or wanted) flaps.

[@centralintelligenceagency9003]

Not gonna lie, I'm a big fan of this scene.

[@totolaunione3939]

Your pfp says it all

[@georgeofhamilton]

For you.

[@Jawshuah]

a lot of loyalty for a baneposter

[@Texicus_Reddicus]

Imagine putting a bag over bane's face and not telling your boss that you caught bane ?

[@DariusDareDevil]

Those aren't cia's men

[@Texicus_Reddicus]

@@DariusDareDevil who are they then ?

[@ramzizou6277]

@@Texicus_Reddicus Watch the movie dummy

[@DariusDareDevil]

@@Texicus_Reddicus Bane's men

[@jimmyj5703]

Imagine actually thinking you're pointing out a flaw, when in reality you just didn't pay attention.

[@RandomBlackGuyisrandom]

When I jumped out of airplanes in the army, the aircraft had use its flaps to slow down so the guys jumping out didnt get messed up from to much speed. From what I was told, they were practically stalling in mid air.

[@Parabueto]

I used to skydive recreationally, they do the same thing with the smaller planes. It's mainly because you have to throw yourself out into the airflow; too much and you'll get pushed back into the fuselage. I got dispatched at about 130 knots once where normally it's 90 odd and you can really tell the difference! Main thing though really is to make sure the plane's trimmed so you don't hit the horizontal stabiliser after you go out; it kills you and the pilot.

[@milanstevic8424]

@@Parabueto I'm glad someone finally mentioned this. I was always wondering.

[@vbscript2]

@@Parabueto Indeed. An encounter with the h-stab would be very, very unpleasant. You would have to hit the airstream just right (or wrong?) for that to happen, though, especially aft of the wing with the downwash. You'll accelerate downward very rapidly unless you hit the airstream at an attitude that causes you to create a bunch of aerodynamic lift.

[@Parabueto]

@@vbscript2 tbh the main danger isn't you hitting it yourself, but having a parachute open as you're in the door and getting sucked out. It can happen if someone hadn't packed their main toggle properly and is climbing out of the aircraft to go out in a group. Worst case is a reserve somehow going off and getting caught. That's the stuff of nightmares.

[@kaimanson3174]

Got to do Harrison Ford - Air Force One. Saving the president before the airplane crashes.

[@TristanVash38]

APPARENTLY...You have never played War Thunder. B-17/B-29 wings just FALL OFF 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@lashkal]

Too bad this millenials don't know that game

[@kupieckorzenny5093]

Russian bias

[@williamst.george6381]

@@lashkal ok boomer

[@yourhandlehere1]

I adjusted my damage model so it looks more justified in how easily they are shot down. Tail gunner and waist gunners end up in open air as huge gaping holes appear everywhere.

[@simmyabis7330]

@@lashkal bruh im 15 years old and having playing that game for more yhan a year I enjoyed it but its getting boring

[@MKF30]

To be fair I think every movie is unrealistic to some degree, but I give Nolan props for actually doing this stuff in an actual plane, in the air etc, etc and not just green screen on a set pretending.

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

Doing some back of the envelope maths, the wings ripped off the plane 82 seconds before the plane was dropped, assuming they're flying at a pedestrian 160 kts (about 300 km/h) thanks to dragging another plane behind, then they would have covered 7km in that time. I think the air crash investigators might find it rather fishy that both wings suddenly sheared off 7km before the plane stopped "flying", not to mention, riddled with bullet holes.

[@Danilego]

I never noticed before that Petyr Baelish was in this scene lol.

[@mvernon1979]

Oh, you think darkness is your ally. But you merely adopted the dark; I was born in it, molded by it. I didn't see the light until I was already a man, by then it was nothing to me but BLINDING!

[@HoneyBadger_____]

Please do a movie react of Airplane (1980) would actually love to watch that lol

[@modrak]

C. Collier do you like movies about gladiators?

[@jasoncentore1830]

Have you ever been in a Turkish Prison

[@Bob3519]

Surely you can't be serious?

[@modrak]

Have you ever seen a grown man naked?

[@deeanna8448]

People keep asking for that. I hope he'll do it one day. It would be hard though since the entire movie is meant to be satire.

[@Z2357111319]

"It doesn't matter who we are... what matters is our plan. No one cared who I was until I put on the mask."

[@joshuamoore4971]

As for the wings sheering off, that one's pretty legit. The wings are designed to take a strong headwind much faster than the planes top speed, as well as a strong force pushing up on the wings. If you were to put a plane vertically into a wind tunnel so that there is a 100+ knot wind pushing down on the wings they would likely sheer off due to the insane forces working in the opposite direction of the design of the wings. That does, however, mean that the horizontal stabilizers wouldn't sheer off as fast as the main wings. Also, there are 2 reasons why they blew the tail off instead of opening the doors: 1, it's more cinematic; 2, so Bane could hook himself onto the rope and drop the plane instead of climbing out the door.

[@A.Lifecraft]

The fuselage would have to be mounted in a way to contribute opposing forces. Otherwise you would need pyrotechnics to have the wings separate like that without the whole thing flapping heavily in the stream of air first. Even if or especially if you film all of that in real, you will make sure those parts separate right on time and symmetrically, so as not to have an uncontrolled situation where you kill your stuntmen.

[@genevieve571]

I was wondering about the standing height. I'm a solid 5'8" and even I have to pull a hunchback routine on a lot of turbo prop aircraft. I have to say...film makers do the absolute most with some of these scenes...Love the video as always!!! To answer your question...superhero movies are kind of "meh" for me...action sequences are almost always over the top without fail...like beyond believable most times. Love that you include bloopers now!!!

[@74gear]

love that you are making it to the end of the videos for the bloopers!! Always impressed with how fast you are able to get a comment on here!

[@mwbgaming28]

I don't think the plane would have been pressurized at such a low altitude anyway, looks like they are only at a few thousand feet AGL As for the wings tearing off, generally speaking, as you already know, aircraft wings are very strong when subject to positive G's, but they are pretty fragile when it comes to negative G's, the 747 for example, has been known to survive a sustained 6G when pulling out of a dive, but it's only rated for 1 negative G, in the scene, the sudden pitch down and negative AOA would put immense negative loading on the wing structure, so the wings breaking off in that scene is plausible, but, as you said, they probably wouldn't break off cleanly, and it's likely that you wouldn't lose both both them, after that it would fling around like an out of control kite, and that's not acounting for the probability that the C130 would be pulled off course and likely be damaged due to the airframe stresses associated with capturing an aircraft in flight (tow plane pilots know all about that problem with rookie glider pilots who haven't yet mastered the art of being towed) And here in Australia, we use VH as the prefix for our aircraft tail numbers

[@timothywillox8564]

For you

[@mwbgaming28]

@@yousquiddingme me too

[@chrisnelmes7180]

On one hand,when I saw this sequence for the first time,I was impressed how original it was.Visually it was impressive and there certainly was an element of danger. It obviously took a lot of planning and it works. One the other hand,there are flaws. Anyone investigating this "accident " would find he wings at one point,the tail at another and eventually the forward section at another. The bodies in the plane have 9mm bullets in them. Banes boots would leave footprints on the seats,not the floor. And then the cockpit flight recorder would have recorded the data. Conclusion: Not an accident.

[@ShiftingDrifter]

As a long-time movie goer, I get the urge to start facepalming as soon as they show a plane in any movie.

[@OmegaTou]

Imagine how differently this scene would have gone if the four guys rappelling down had been too far forward and got sucked into the propellers. 🤣🤣🤣

[@abigailhowe8302]

sucked into the props, their cables get wound up and rip something vital out of the AC above, and all of them come a-tumblin out of the sky? "well, I guess now EVEN OUR PLAN DOESN'T MATTER... Doctor, Now is a good time for fear--- we're all going to die"

[@peterzingler6221]

Pulling people on aircrafts has been done since the 60s with the sky hook system

[@9999AWC]

Fun fact, it's not a C-130, it's an L-100 (the civilian Hercules designation)

[@michaelcassell8435]

Fun fact, to be more precise, the plane that was used (N117TG used to be USAF 54-1631) and is a C-130A (L-182) Hercules owned by the Marine Spill Response Corporation and is the oldest one still flying in the world. It was also used to fight the BP deep water horizon spill. Source: my brother - he used to work for them.

[@HawkeyeFLA]

@@michaelcassell8435 it's USAF was 56-0511. Procured in 1956, entered service in 1957. It's so old, it could have had the weird ugly nose the original 130s had.

[@saxopio6280]

HOW DARE YOU!!!!!

[@sambrainard3487]

Bane has resources, so you don't know that.

[@onebitstory]

Not a Single time did he Say " The Dark Knight Rises " , he said "The Dark Knight ". Did you guys notice??

[@Sturb100]

Yeh. Just watched the whole of the Dark Knight wondering when that scene would happen 😳

[@ndatiagapitus7607]

Yes, I was enjoying the flight stuff but once I heard it I just kept hearing it and getting annoyed😂 If the flight stuff didn’t hurt Nolan’s feelings perhaps using the wrong film title will!

[@AlongForTheRideee]

I'm waiting for the day that you do Snakes on a Plane, for fun. But like actually please do it 😂😂

[@Ishisigma]

“With no survivors” 😭😭😭 that made me laugh too hard.

[@TaraRoyTV]

I would love to see “Air Force One” with Harrison Ford and Gary Oldman. ✈️ Thank you!! ☺️

[@bombomos]

Get off my PLANE!

[@possiblepilotdeviation5791]

Oh man. I forgot all about that movie!

[@TaraRoyTV]

Lyle Arnett, Jr I really hope he does a video on it. There are so many scenes to dissect. 😂

[@TheField-HR]

He has already done a video on that. Check his channel

[@lyricianmanish4990]

Fuck u all bitchs

[@hatboxghost735]

Actually, if the C-130 had been trying to catch up with and already been surpassing the plane, it would require the flaps to slow to the same speed as the small prop.

[@phumlanimancaku3722]

Yep... I wonder if this was considered

[@lukef00]

flaps are not meant to slow but to increase lift

[@hatboxghost735]

@@lukef00 just like reverse thrust is meant for use on tarmac, yet, it can save a plane from crashing. Everything has multiple uses on a plane, and any pilot worth their salt is trained to make use of what they have.

[@----.__]

@@lukef00 Flaps create more lift but they also increase drag slowing the aircraft down. The lift can be compensated for meaning the aircraft will remain at the same altitude but it's airspeed will decrease.

[@lukef00]

​@@----.__ flaps are designed to be used at certain speeds. if you extend them when the plane goes too fast you just damage them.

[@monkeybrain3542]

Dynamic entry that tail was blown off for proper entry. The risk of cable tear is there if going in the side

[@1Chasg]

Exactly. They also did it in order to lower the body bag in.

[@ThereIsNoLord]

The risk of getting hit by the detached tail before it falls is also there.

[@LowieDM]

first of all, I'm an aerospace engineering student so I have some leverage when it comes to this stuff. The first comments he makes about the aircraft are almost all wrong. The first thing being the shape of the fuselage. If you look at the aircraft, it has a square shaped fuselage meaning a few things. First of all, it's not pressurised because a pressurised cabin can't hold a square shape. Secondly, because of the shape of the fuselage, it's not unlikely that they would actually be able to stand up. The second thing about the flaps of the C-130 is kinda correct but not entirely. Altho from an airline pilot's point of view, flaps are for flying slow, from a wing point of view, flaps drastically increase lift but also drastically increase drag. So it depends on the situation. while yes, you aren't going to fly cruise speed with flaps out, they are about to carry an entire aircraft so it might just be to prevent a stall in that case. The next scene where they attach cables to the aircraft is one that actually worries me. while yes, a plane is a relatively strong structure, the skin is less than a mm thick. So for that to work they would have to attach it right onto the frame of the aircraft which would be quite hard to see from the outside. The last thing he got completely wrong is the thing about the wings. Conventional aircraft wings are usually designed for loads up to 3G with a safety factor allowing for loads up to 9G. So what does that mean? this means that the weight the wings can carry before the wings snap is 9 times the weight of the aircraft in normal conditions. Looking at the footage, they are flying at an angle of attack of -90°. I can almost certainly guarantee you that for a conventional transport aircraft flying at cruise speed at an angle of attack of -90°, the wings would snap like a toothpick. Altho it is true that there is fuel in them and we didn't see any of that.

[@LowieDM]

@Paul Simonson As I said, I'm a student. I don't know everything and I am well aware of that fact. To answer your question: yes, I have flown an aircraft. I currently have exactly 100 flights of which 29 were solo flights. I might not be the best pilot in the world but I wouldn't have a single solo flight if I didn't know how an airplane works. Those wings falling off do in fact look very fake. I don't know exactly how those wings are built so I don't know how they would fail in reality. That's why I didn't comment on that. And to a lot of people's great surprise, a lot of aircraft (like for example the piper cub) are still almost literally made entirely out of paper and sticks.

[@DaleRaby]

I would like to see you do the old Twilight Zone episode with William Shatner seeing the gremlin ripping metal from the airplane and throwing it into the engine.

[@johnwatson3948]

Another question is whether the drop crew from the C-130 could really stand and work on the Embraer in a 150 mph wind. Flying in a B-24 I’ve tried and failed to even push my hand out into the slipstream.

[@omercinar6693]

It was all filmed irl so yes

[@Rgdarkchild]

The Ac130 had already caught up so they were slowing down

[@macieksoft]

But there are speed limits for flaps, you cannot use them like speed brakes because you are risking damaging them.

[@mightybedbugs]

I'd love to see you review "Airport 75". Star studded cast starring a brand new 747-100 where the stewardess has to fly the plane over the mountains outside of SLC until Charleton Heston can be transplanted via a tether so he can land it. It's one of the 70's air disaster movies that is heavily parodied in "Airplane".

[@thesteelrodent1796]

Airport 75 is not just parodied in Airplane, it's also the movie playing on the in-flight entertainment

[@lj5632]

"I'm Only 6'0 foot tall" FOR YOU

[@DSFARGEG00]

Someone get this hothead outta here

[@julianblake8385]

@Matthew Barrick who fkn cares!

[@yeetboi9817]

Bravo Nolan

[@finejuggler7601]

UUUU

[@jakedw25]

Thank you.

[@scottthewaterwarrior]

I think the fact that the wings and tail were miles from the fuselage would be enough for investigators to tell this wasn't an accident. Plus, you know, the bullet wounds...

[@ThereIsNoLord]

I don't think they were trying to make it look like an accident. They were trying to make it look like the scientist died. Seems like a lot of work.

[@Circurose]

The pilot could have performed an evasive maneuver... Guess he didn't fly so good!!!

[@DSFARGEG00]

He was probably nervous since Gedomon Board and Isle Callitin were on-board.

[@harrybarodawala3588]

7:34 - Haha, I love your super serious move watching face

[@Killerean]

Technically speaking, an aircraft wing must be able to carry it's own mass, the mass of the aircraft and the mass of the cargo, as well as the pull of the engines + wind resistance and potential turbulence. Therefore, it's most unlikely that it will disintegrate if only put in to a wrong orientation towards the winds at regular speed, as the construction must be able to withstand a flat stall, or a storm, or both. It's much more likely that the cables would snap, or that the construction cables are anchored to would fail due to structural damage from the anchors rammed in to it. Also, the airplanes at that time will be going over 200 km/h. If you can grab the side of the aircraft at that speed while dangling off a rope, or even stabilize yourself enough to shoot through the windows of the aircraft, you're superman with no need for rope or an aircraft.

[@MrMurphyum]

OMG Bloopers!!! 😂😂😂 Please do more bloopers too!! I LOVE IT! ♡♡♡

[@tyranusarchive6984]

Take a shot every time this guy says: “that doesn’t make any sense.”

[@LilAnnThrax]

I'm 4' 7". Airplanes are one of my strengths size wise. I can sit cross legged in most airline seats, my knees have never hit the seat in front of me and I've never needed to duck haha. My only weakness is overhead storage. Dammit.

[@havardlangeland5165]

Please do a react video of "Executive Decision (1996)". It has a F-117 docking into a Boeing 747 MIDAIR and many other aviation clips!

[@hagarthehorrible1391]

I love that movie.

[@camopaint0707]

he did

[@bradenmcdonald9650]

Called the flaps on the c-130 before he even said it

[@bradenmcdonald9650]

He explains in the video which I guess you didn’t watch

[@TheSnivilous]

@@bradenmcdonald9650 I didn't think his explanation made much sense. He even said the Embraer flies 100knots slower, so seems perfectly plausible that the C-130 has flaps out to match speed with the smaller aircraft. They're not trying to leap frog them, they're trying to maintain their position over them. Plus, that clip with both aircraft in formation I bet is real.

[@bradenmcdonald9650]

Lets go with whatever you guys say

[@TheCrawl979]

Interesting fact: there is a company in Mesa, AZ at the Mesa Gateway airport that houses 2 of these C-130's. They use them for most movies that have a C-130. Years ago there was a commercial where skydivers jumped out of a plane in a vehicle, they used one of these C-130s. Can't remember what the commercial was for. I found this out maybe 8 years ago. I used to be a FedEx driver and I would deliver parts to them often.

[@TheCerealHobbyist]

Thank you for having Closed Captioning enabled!

[@Clipper707]

Hey Kelsey, love the channel. I would like you to consider going "old school" and maybe do Airport or Airport 75 when you have time. Thanks and keep up the great work!

[@karenmarieh.j.3842]

Roger GREAT IDEA !!!!

[@plsgooby6545]

You're a big pilot

[@xxOmponxx]

UUUU

[@luca-sh5zq]

For you

[@elliot3147]

I could see the flaps deployed for extra lift, since they are literally lifting another plane. Also blowing the tail off is for ease of access. If you went through the doors the harnessing cable would get caught.

[@yvrelna]

When you deploy flaps you get some lift momentarily, yes, but you also add drag and this reduce speed. With less speed, you will get less lift.

[@macieksoft]

Consider that they are dragging another aircraft with flaps extended, that would not make any sense. Flaps would add even more drag to the already insanely draggy thing. And as you fly slower, you would also loose stability. So you would have tons of drag + lack of stability, it is exactly opposite to what would you want in such situation.

[@Peter_Cordes]

@@macieksoft The way they're dragging the smaller plane is already probably *very* high drag, drag which increases significantly as a function of airspeed due to the shape. So it might not be possible to go fast enough for the C130's wings to get good lift in clean configuration, given available engine thrust / power. It seems plausible to me that having the flaps down could help more than it hurts in this configuration, but I don't have numbers for C130 thrust vs. airspeed or C130 drag vs. airspeed (without towing a kite). (update: I commented before finishing the video. I forgot the wings tore off like a toy model. Seemed totally unrealistic to me, too. Just the bare fuselage is a lot less drag than I was thinking, so yeah probably you wouldn't want that much flaps, if any, if the small plane's wings did rip off, lol.)

[@feralarmadillo928]

Loving this series on Hollywood vs Reality. Would love to see some of the old Airport movies, especially Airport '77 and '75. Keep 'em coming!

[@wipeout2098]

There's also a question about if two fuselage ribs of the Embraer are stronger than both entire wings. Seems doubtful and more likely that the cables would simply tear out chunks of fuselage when the Embraer tipped forward. But lets assume the fuselage ribs are strong enough. Then we have metal pins being fired against these extremely tough fuselage ribs versus the grip the men have on the devices. And the mens' grip is by far the weaker of these. The devices would immediately launch themselves backwards out of the mens' hands. xD

[@JimsEquipmentShed]

Great stuff, the super villain thing never quite got my suspension of disbelief going. Personally, I'd go for a simpler way of dispatching my victims, and perhaps save the second plane for use in another evil plan later. (Yea, I'd be a really cheap super villain.....) Or, uh, fiscally responsible.....

[@rixille]

The reason why the fully trained soldiers are highly incompetent at deterring the hijackers is because of a thing known as "Plot Armor".

[@MM-hk4pb]

@rixille yeah because in real life soldiers never fail...

[@paradox5919]

@@MM-hk4pb Wow its surprising how you completely missed her/his point

[@MindsetMastery75]

292 Likes and 0 dislikes. Now that's what i'm talking about 74!

[@CCTV_1984]

Space Alien and 1 dislike from random guy

[@MrScottChristie]

Your way of explaining how things work has helped me quite a lot. I plan on taking flying lessons at our local airport here in Elizabethtown, Kentucky. It's on my to do list right after my Skydiving AFF course. Thank you!

[@th3b0yg]

Yeah, but it is an awesome opening sequence.

[@ninus17]

i would like to see a video on the movie Airforce one ( the one with harison ford )

[@74gear]

That is on the list actually I am going to be working on that during my time off this month 🤫

[@carstorm85]

I was just about to add this comment myself. That movie seems to have tons to digest. Including certain procedures and such that deal specifically with the president

[@ninus17]

@@74gear awsome. i look forward to it, you make some good content

[@dominickatx478]

74 Gear GET OFF MY PLANE 😂

[@chrischicol]

"I'm only 6 foot tall" >Me , 5'5 Manlet: "am I a joke to you"

[@hyperion3845]

Me 5' 3" manlet...😂😂

[@ЖудаМ]

Im 6'4'' hahaha

[@julianblake8385]

@@ЖудаМ fuck off

[@wilsondoesstufff]

It would be a cool video if you’d cover some strange pre-flight rituals you’ve seen.

[@Voncid]

Investigating this crash would be a NTSB nightmare.

[@danielmarshall4587]

LOVE THIS SCENE, and LOVE your analysis of it, great to get the "real deal" and it doesn't lessen my enjoyment of the scene, thank you.

[@happyjohn1656]

9:14 Probably was. As you know Christopher Nolan likes filming as much as he can real! 😀 11:47 AM 7/1/2019

[@clayopold2131]

Tl;Dr. 74 guy: *frowns at 2 minutes of footage * "yeah that doesn't make any sense to me"

[@alban_fooz]

*TL;DW.

[@clayopold2131]

@@alban_fooz high iq no doubt

[@alankroit]

@74gear In this video, you say that most aircraft, the doors open outwards, but in the radio interview recently, you said most open inward so the pressurisation keeps them from being opened in flight. Could you please comment.

[@krakoosh1]

You had to make me go back and watch it over again because I missed that.

[@kissedbyaudrey21]

Sad fact. That plane ZS-NVB actually crashed in 2013 on approach into Francistown Botswana.

[@FlyingDreaming]

Did some research. C-130 door and loading ramp are operated at a speed of 150 KIAS, with flaps down at 50%. That's normal operation. EMB110 normal cruising speeds are in the range of 185-220KT. Considering this number and, if you look closely, you might notice that EMB has flaps (first notch, from what it looks @ 4:32) deployed as well, therefore we can expect speed to be somewhere in the range of 140-150. Based in this, I come to a conclusion that C130 flap setting of 50% is reasonable.

[@FarmerFpv]

You clowned that whole Hollywood hijack scene. It was a complete mess. Great job breaking it down bro! 😂🤣

[@escaperoomleander1948]

"Why does Bane wear the mask???" "Hey, ask him yourself, he's one of the guys you put on a plane apparently without bothering to look under the hood to confirm identities."

[@paulrogers4444]

He should do a review of cliffhanger the beginning scenes of that with the two airplanes

[@LALIWOOD]

This plane later crashed On June 29, 2013, en route from Johannesburg to Lubumbashi, D.R. Congo, the plane crashed with no survivors as its two pilots attempted to land at Francistown, Botswana for refueling

[@FredrikRambris]

A classic aviation movie to watch and comment is "Airport". With the classic line: -"The instruction book sais that was impossible" -"That's one nice thing about the 707. It can do everything but read."

[@realradiant1r69]

Please do 1993 “Alive”. Best crash scene ever!

[@svenjansen2134]

And Flight.

[@Starlesslemon]

"I've never seen this actual aircraft, but let me tell you about it"

[@neurofiedyamato8763]

its a disclaimer to not take everything he says at face value. He did say he did research on the aircraft to back up what he is saying and comparing it to other aircraft of similar type.

[@brandonwhorley674]

74 gear squad assemble!

[@74gear]

well you got 2 likes, I guess thats a start from when you started 😂 appreciate it, how did you like the Dark Knight?

[@brandonwhorley674]

@@74gear haaaaa. Dude right? I loved it. Another great video. This is the best aviation channel. Good stuff. Next video I'm going for 4 likes on the 74gearsquad assemble. Then the week after that 6.... by then you will be at 70k subscribers and it will be easy.

[@Ayrshore]

The plane used in this movie actually crashed soon after the movie released. With no survivors...

[@richardschlange9629]

The c130 I presume? How many were onboard

[@Ayrshore]

@@richardschlange9629 no, the Bandeirante.

[@xavier-ir6kf]

I've seen this man a lot of times he's a doctor, astronaut, advocate, plumber