Tesla Cybertruck range and reliability boosted with new motors

Tesla Cybertruck range and reliability boosted with new motors
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[@RagnarinVa]

Newer motors make a difference. My 2024 Model 3 LR has an EPA range of 341 - after two months I have been getting 353 average on a full charge

[@cjonesplay1]

Picked mine up today.

[@mitchcollins2947]

Congratulations

[@AnInterestedObserver]

Tesla sound to be very fair to early buyers by upgrading their trucks free of charge. I can't remember any time that legacy car makers offered a free upgrade of a more powerful engine!

[@bear4278]

That’s probably because most legacy car makers have never had a need to do this. They just do actual testing to make sure their product works and meets the advertised specs before putting it in customers hands 😝 Remember, like in the good old days where you just got what you paid for from the factory? Now everyone seems happy paying stupid amounts of money to be “beta testers” for “finished” products with the hope the company fixes all the issues in the future… Seriously, what the hell happened to this world?

[@davekozlowski1266]

​@@bear4278yeah, no other car manufacturer would replace a motor like this! I'm sure all of those Toyota owners that have metal shavings in their engines will be happy to get a magnetic oil plug instead of a new engine! But I'm glad they have taken care of the problem so quickly unlike Tesla who is replacing motors on vehicles that the owners haven't even had an issue with.

[@bear4278]

@@davekozlowski1266 I’m really not sure what you are trying to say. Two things though: 1) Car makers like Toyota absolutely will (and do) replace an engine if it is defective (that is standard build warranty stuff and is mandated by law in virtually all first world country that I know of). Also not sure what you are referencing specifically but a small amount of metal in the oil is not uncommon for a brand new car. A new engine usually needs a little time to break in (hence there often being a recommended 500km / 500mi oil chance) and you sometimes get specks of metal in your oil from that so having a magnetic sump plug to catch that so it doesn’t recirculate through the engine is normal and helps mechanics check if there is an issue. If it is a significant amount of metal and or causing issues / is hurting performance, see the first sentence of this dot point above. 2) the Cybertruck owners are having an issue. The issue is that they aren’t getting the range that was advertised to them.

[@AnInterestedObserver]

@@bear4278 I guess that you've forgotten about the many defective cars produced by British Leyland.

[@dzerres]

We were offered a founders series because we had an existing pre-order - around #350,000. We jumped at the chance because calculating conservatively it will take another four years for Tesla to produce 350,000 Cybertrucks. This was an easy way to jump the line (for a cost, obviously). I am happy they keep making fixes and improvements.

[@josephv5484]

We are about the same place in line.. But we will wait. 👍👍

[@chassdesk]

That’s crazy upgrades on motors! Un heard of any other manufacturer would just have a new model year.

[@dzerres]

We got that free range and power upgrade for our 2019 Model # back in 2020.

[@MsAjax409]

My AWD Cybertruck is at my Tesla SC now getting both the front and the rear motors changed. I was experiencing a slight vibration at highway speeds that Tesla said was caused by a drive unit. I was told that the rear motor was replaced with the newer version. The rear motor is permanent magnet. The front motor is induction.

[@philesq]

I've had my FS dual motor for 2 months now and I love it. I haven't heard anything from Tesla about exchanging the motor for a newer motor but I would love a more efficient motor. I have a second pre- reservation that I made a year later and I may get that one if there are substantial upgrades.

[@kipper2k]

upgrades are great, early purchasers risk losing out on improvements. Personally i think waiting a little bit is always the best way

[@icosthop9998]

Sam said *"everyone"* with a #CyberTruck gets the upgrade. That is very good, or the early receivers and the pre-order owners would be missing out.

[@tomh1727]

Yeah, the ones who buy early do it for status and to show off, not so much to have a reliable car

[@icosthop9998]

@tomh1727 you are probably correct. Via many Channels, lots of people are regretting too.

[@thomasruwart1722]

​@@tomh1727- There is a third category of Early Adopters: they buy one out of curiosity because it is so different. Regardless of the motivation, Early Adopters are a very important part of a new tech rollout. They are the ones that essentially shake out as many bugs as possible. This is a very effective way to find out what works and what doesn't. I suspect that Tesla found something with the motors in the CT that would have caused them to fail within the warranty period so they decided to fix it before it became necessary. Furthermore, because of the way Tesla runs their assembly line, they can easily integrate the new motors in the assembly line so that all CyberTrucks moving forward will have the new motors. That is a capability most legacy automakers don't have. All that said, I am waiting for the non-Foundation Series before I get one. This will reduce the price and, more importantly, give me more time to figure out how I am going to tell my wife that I ordered one... three years ago!😊 Have a great week!

[@OldDirtyRobot]

@@icosthop9998 eh, a few influencers are "regretting" it.

[@olebloom1641]

Received my preorder for a Foundation Series. I'm going to wait for the configuration I want. Get as many bugs out of the system as possible.

[@kallekas8551]

Are you serious? Those bugs are gonna be buried in there for a while yet…

[@drevo400]

I finally got to sit in one, and I compare it to my Lexus GX460. Inside the CT has more room, the truck bed has more storage cost to drive 300 miles in Arizona: Tesla CT about $10 Lexus GX460 $100 I declined the foundation CT and I will wait for the 2 motor CT

[@icedout2322]

Yea got mine back in may, didnt order the truck but my friend already got his Beast.(what I ordered) ive decided to wait till they are done with the foundation but his was very good. nice and tight panel gaps nothing like the videos of them ive seen. his were consistent 1/8 maybe 3/16 inch panel gaps and very even everywhere. Im still waiting, issues will and always do pop up on any first run of a vehicle.

[@bikesbeersbeats]

Stark Varg have just done exactly the same thing, they released a software update that increased range 10%, fixed some small bugs and added a host of new features (crawl mode and reverse). When I compare this to motorcycle companies like KTM or Yamaha they NEVER fix ecu issues, they simply release all the updates/fixes in the next model year - leaving the customers with the dud product to resolve it themselves. So this is incredible we see this kind of benevolent behavior from manufacturers.

[@tedmoss]

My Cybertruck front motor has to loud a noise at about 45 mph, I scheduled with Tesla to look at it and they gave me an appointment September 3rd! Seems to work fine in the meantime.

[@WilliamFiler]

I am resi number 1.4 million or so (unless I have this wrong) and I have been invited to order a foundation series delivered in July/Aug. So far I don't have the dough.

[@MyUniversalUniversity]

This is 3 week old info. I did not hear it before, thank you!! My friend who has one has not said a word about it??

[@dinojohn1]

So. What is the real miles on full charge.

[@steveedlund7357]

Exciting! Just received my preorder invitation for a Foundation Series. It is frustrating not being able to contact a real person to ask questions.

[@tedmoss]

I didn't ask any questions, I just paid the money. I am still going to find out about the wall charger.

[@teslagaijin8672]

I find it kind of silly to adhere to an old adage "wait a few years for all the bugs to get ironed out," when that is an OLD adage! In case you hadn't heard, Tesla is a technology company. I drove a Model 3 for almost 3 years, and now a Model T Performance. Neither had any issues, but are constantly upgraded for free over Wifi. The single "recall" was to move the emergency LED flare from a place the driver could not clearly see, to a place I can now clearly see. I only went to service to get it because I was in the neighborhood. Yeah, I might want the refresh Model Y someday, but that is just another Life Option.

[@joebullwinkle5099]

I have a Cyber Truck Pre-Order and so far I still intend to pull the trigger. I waited to order so that I hoped that my order would take a year or so after launch. I used to buy Ducati's and it was the golden rule to wait until the next years model after initial release for them for find most or all of the launch years problems and fix them.

[@WilliamFiler]

Did you get an invite yet to order? I did.

[@joebullwinkle5099]

@@WilliamFiler I'm expecting from early 2025 on for the call!

[@aguyfromnothere]

I am in line for 2028 based on online estimates but we will see.

[@joebullwinkle5099]

@@aguyfromnothere Once the initial back log of Cybertruck fantatics gets their vehicles and 2nd hand ones start coming on the market in significant numbers, I feel you will see your purchase opportunity come much sooner.

[@marklaffey7972]

This is amazing! When is the last time any car manufacturer did this for their customers? Hey I know you just bought this truck but we have better motor for it now and we will give you the motor for free and by the way we wont charge you anything to do this also. I have a F150 and they want $150 just to update the map.

[@johnlehew8192]

Agreed, BMW and Lexus didn’t do anything like this! Tesla is one of a kind

[@marcusoutdoors4999]

Intriguing, good to see Tesla doing the right thing. In the cycling world Specialized had a similar issues and also did the right thing, free replacement and extended warranty for free. This contrasts sharply with Audi whose electric vehicles are unbelievably unreliable and in or out of warranty, your in trouble.

[@DQ-su6qf]

I love the ct but won’t be getting one until it gets a minimum of 400 mile range without compromising the bed…

[@theknifedude1881]

I’m ready for Tesla to send me an email. The plastic trim on the drivers side front door is currently held on by duct tape. I don’t know if all the wiper motors are effected? In any case, I have not received any emails.

[@boomerfuturist4309]

I have a cybertruck on order and will take it if I don’t have to take a foundation series and if the additional battery is available.

[@1slyboy]

I have a pre-order I made because of the original promised range of 500+ miles. I got a model Y in the meantime and will gladly wait longer for range improvement options

[@noel3munoz]

My sub 1000 cybertruck already had the new motors. I had Tesla confirm this last week.

[@joshmcguire9594]

Do you notice a range improvement?

[@noel3munoz]

@@joshmcguire9594 I never had the old motors, so I have no clue.

[@Drewcardello]

The f150 lightning is beginning to look obsolete with it's technology.

[@HygienistDentist]

Bought the cyber beast. It’s ready for pickup. But I’m delaying it until after my business’s construction is completed 😭

[@possiblynick]

Hopefully the range improvement is significant. I imagine it would be with such a significant replacement. Just depends on what Tesla would define as significant I suppose.

[@todd1771]

I have been hoping Tesla would utilize the carbon fibre wrap motor in other models, maybe to increase power with a smaller motor. It would be cool if this is the new motor.

[@apple1231230]

pure speculation on my part. Maybe the motors they're replacing will be used in lower trim models exclusively where the new motors are incorporated into the higher trims. Say the single motor is the older motor that might be a bit worse but cheaper. In duel motor have that be one of the two and perhaps two of the new ones and just one old in the highest trim for the best performance, but it sounds like they're just replacing 1 of the three in this free upgrade. I don't know how teslas motor variation work currently, but id guess the main motor is in the front and then any in the back are added but i could be way wrong.

[@gocybertruck8189]

No automakers have done this. Great job Tesla.

[@andrewvercillo7584]

I hope the sound doesn’t change! I thought it sounded amazing!

[@DreDresChapters]

Where the hell did you get this information?… I’m actually just curious

[@shepherdsknoll]

This information has been available from Tesla for quite a while.

[@tonpul321]

Porsche taycan , 5/10 batteries are reported to be faulty. They rejected tesla's offer of help for BMS systems, look where they are now. Tesla launched cybertruck, THEN updated the charging curves, and now motors, because they do it SAFELY after collecting data. tesla is a true technology company

[@ExploringCabinsandMines]

Im waiting 5 years and hoping for a better battery and the bugs worked out, then ill strongly consider purchasing a CT.

[@Edward-tz7xz]

I’m on the waiting list and will take my ct soonest. Tesla will keep it fair.

[@Michael-yi4mc]

I’m waiting for the Cybervan

[@finned958]

Haters will now call it a recall. 😢

[@elftax]

Great, so you pay extra for the first trucks and less than 6 months later they improve motors on the mass market models

[@sculpt-media]

But they will change it for free. So it’s still a win.

[@petercoverdale5003]

Ever bought a computer or mobile phone mate?

[@sylvestervoigt9836]

Sounds like how the Talk Shows describe the difference between the Left & the Right, One Party doesn't Like when somebody comes out Ahead even if they also Do Fine on a Deal.

[@JohnBoen]

Removing low-end torque that would never be used, and gaining high-end efficiency... It seems that if you have multiple motors, one should.be geared to be the highest efficiency at highway speeds.

[@kevroll99]

An unprecedented move by Tesla but obviously it's necessary for multiple reasons otherwise they'd never do something like this. Tesla is mission driven but business profit motivated too!

[@andrewvercillo7584]

Legacy auto would never change a part!

[@kellymoses8566]

Its going to take a very long time for Tesla to replace all the motors on all cybertrucks.

[@dangrass]

maybe a month or more.

[@LegendaryInfortainment]

Tesla is broadly saying in essence, "Our bad, you bought and paid for version one but we gave you working version zero motors somehow. Please come in for your free correct parts at our expense." I'd bet this has never happened in automotive history at any significant scale until now. Elon/Tesla=Rocks the world.

[@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler]

These new Motors are meant to give the Cyber truck low end crawling torque

[@mikapeltokorpi7671]

Hopefully. Tesla, after all, has already a Cybertuck recall for the motorss related issues.

[@OldDirtyRobot]

not really. Its for a motor controller for the wiper. Big difference.

[@rambo4war]

Competition is great clearly the upgraded gen 2 r1T put some fire under their butts

[@georgeelder8415]

It's a pleasant surprise...

[@kendrickpi]

Isn’t it one driven unit of two? And unclear which!?

[@iowa_don]

Must be the front if it is for both the dual motor and the tri-motor as that would be the only unit in common between the two.

[@samijokinen9246]

Tesla is being smart, they don't need to store different spareparts for decades for different versions. Might be that or not.

[@Molishious]

If a legacy automaker did this there is no way people would believe that it was out the kindness of their own hearts. I suspect Tesla is doing this because they’ve had a problem or see one coming. Interesting that so many here see this as a good thing. A company that feels the need to change a motor on a new truck?

[@MrGMawson2438]

Almost afternoon mate

[@chrisroberts3963]

Most owners are not getting this. I have not been notified.

[@MrGMawson2438]

Cheers mate

[@Michael-yi4mc]

80 thousand dollars for a experimental truck? Give them the latest version!

[@chrisroberts3963]

Tesla has to reach out to the owner. You can’t request it, you have to be selected.

[@satay8167]

I hope Elon is also fair with existing owner before dropping price of new car

[@ASmith-vl2km]

Can't wait for the cheaper model.

[@danabe3220]

Now it gets 251 miles of range.

[@anthonyg638]

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says Tesla has now issued four recalls for its 2024 Cybertruck. Tesla said it is recalling 11,688 Cybertrucks from the 2024 model year because the front windshield wiper motor controller failed due to excessive electrical current.

[@dangrass]

True. But let's compare this to the new Toyota Tacoma...the truck whose transmissions fail within the first week of ownership, and Toyota has no spares available.

[@davis.fourohfour]

Try finding a Fisker wiper motor now.

[@MarkSpohr]

The original motors must be really bad for them to replace them all. Of course, the people who bought the early versions paid a very high price so it's a good thing for them.

[@AllDogsAreGoodDogs]

When was the last time GM did this? Or Ford? Hmm?

[@andreandre1051]

👍👍

[@i3looi2]

I mean the replace is included in the "early-bird-price". It does not cost tesla 100k to make the cybertruck. Plus they didn't sold/produce too many to be a logistic issue.

[@mikejones4097]

Until they hit scale production, it cost tesla many times more than 100k to make each cybertruck. The factory wasn't free. Until they sell enough to cover that initial outlay they're not making money.

[@1flash3571]

It actually costed more than 100k to produce the truck......Don't forget that they are not mass producing them, especially in the beginning where they are learning and tweaking on production line. You are also forgetting R&D to develop the truck, all the initial Hardwares purchased to produce the truck, and all the new employees hired to produce the truck. All those cost added up initially will be included in the cost of development, AND production. As they produce more FASTER, and start delivering them on a more mass scale, production cost will go DOWN, but for now, it is more than 100k to produce them, or at least at around 100k.

[@GlennLittle-i9r]

By how much do these motors boost the cybertruck's range? Without these figures, this video consists of opinion and assertion, not fact.

[@roger_is_red]

sounds like one motor not two

[@Truecolors326]

Elon gives nothing away for Free Defective part is culprit

[@rayr6278]

Didn't Tesla freely change a part that would allow for a tighter turning radius? You made a claim, if you stand by it, feel free to provide evidence on the contrary instead of 'Elon bad'.

[@andrewvercillo7584]

The people not a fan of the Cybertruck are the epitome of prejudice! How can these people HATE the Cybertruck when they haven’t actually seen it or more importantly driven it and tried it out! It’s sad that this world is still so prejudice even with a motor vehicle! They are actually like this with most EVs, though it’s changing a bit, but the main prejudices is a shame.

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

So, it's a "Clayton's" recall. "The recall you have when you're not having a recall". You couldn't make this 5h!t up, could you.

[@jameswilliams5921]

😂😂😂

[@Nelson-HaHa]

There has to be some serious issues with the original motors. Tesla is not a charity.

[@davis.fourohfour]

Just a very fine car company.

[@Gallardo6669]

My model 3 2018 got two updates, to bring it from 300 to 315 miles of range. Archived it maybe twice and never again... I have now around 285

[@kellymoses8566]

Replacing the motors on all the cybertrucks is going to be VERY expensive.

[@dangrass]

depends on what's involved in updating the original motors. Could be something very minor.

[@steveedlund7357]

@@kellymoses8566 I doubt that with Tesla’s own vertical integration.

[@AudiTTQuattro2003]

Kind of makes you wonder if they actually tested the Cybertruck at all, before it went into production.

[@dangrass]

hmm....if only Toyota were so ethical with its customers. I mean, 100k Tundras have failing bottom ends, apparently their new V6 bottom ends fail as well, the transmissions in Tacomas overheat and fail, and Toyota has no spares available in north America. By comparison Tesla is giving its customers an improved motor to increase efficiency.

[@jamessimmer725]

It doesn't make me wonder that. Would idiots who never test their products be willing to pay for replacing parts that don't meet expectations?

[@bigdougscommentary5719]

We are waiting because it’s not financially possible until the $79K version comes out. Need the EV rebate.

[@mahealanihawaii9830]

I'm up for delivery but I'm waiting. 100 for 300 mile range won't do for me. It's not a truck till it can hual 10000 at 300 mile range. It's not a truck if it can't be worked.

[@donfields1234]

The media will build this up like some horrendous recall, when it is actually Elon and the crew doing what they do best. Making a product that the customer just loves, and yeah the haters gonna hate because they are stuck in their own mud, in their own way. It is almost impossible to please a miaerable person... just let em be and hope they too realize hewven is also right there in the midst of themz and that the end of suffering is just a small adjustment in our direction/path.

[@mikem6549]

Looks like tesla screwed up and are spinning it. That's to cost labour and parts hitting the margins. If they think the motor is going to fail in 25k miles after shaking itself to bits that's going.to be a warranty-repair might as well get it out of the way now.

[@WeVisitTravelGuide]

lol insightful “efficiency may improve range” no shit 😂

[@ianswayne7296]

Not if the software doesn’t change range.

[@srqTactical]

This is why you wait 3-4 years till you buy a new model of a Tesla

[@jpm000001]

Translation: we found a major problem and must replace your motor

[@Ianmundo]

hardly an upgrade, that’s a recall for the underperformance of the Cybertruck. It’ll be a couple years before they’re building them properly

[@snow-uq4gx]

U mean the 500 range pinocio promised in the beggining 😂😂😂 is now gonna happen🤧

[@margarita8442]

motors catching fire

[@TheDripSpotter]

What an untrue facile comment.

[@margarita8442]

why are they replacing them ?

[@dangrass]

asteroids fall from the sky.

[@TheDripSpotter]

@@margarita8442 more efficient.

[@kevinW826]

Elons vanity project. It fails in sand, it fails in snow, it fails in water, it fails everywhere.

[@kallekas8551]

In other words all key criteria met.✅👍👌💃🏻🪣💩

[@dangrass]

is that so? Last I heard ever since the software update to enable locking diffs and new off road modes this thing has been killer as an off road vehicle. But let's compare it to the new Toyota pickups....the Tundra whose engines all fail catastrophically, and the Tacoma whose transmissions all fail catastrophically. If only Toyota were capable of introducing new trucks with as few problems as Tesla.

[@kevinW826]

@@dangrass there is a guy from Croatia or Serbia and you see some clot with his cybertruck in a shallow lake bed, maybe a foot of water and his tires are spinning. He tries and tries, but his cyberfail can’t get out of the water. The video was posted last week I think

[@KnowNotNo_I]

⁠@@kevinW826, did he have off-road tires or standard AT? traction is only as good as the tires & the differential. This goes for all SUV’s, btw. Not really sure what your point is trying to make?

[@darkrangertelescopetours9601]

Buy one (only 2 million orders ahead of you). Test it thoroughly as I have mine and you will have an INFORMED opinion. After 3 months and 7500 miles, I'd advise that the only people who shouldn't get a CyberTruck are those who don't want having just 1 stock vehicle that is better at everything that any 4 specialized vehicles were individually designed for. It's a better jeep than anything Jeep makes. It's a better heavy-duty truck than my F350. It's almost as fast as my Model 3, which makes it a better sportscar than all but a handful of supercars. It's more roomy and comfortable on 2000-mile road trips than any minivan or saloon car. I've pulled my 7500 lb RV up and down 8-14% grades of Utah Mountains (easy to make a dead stop on 14% grade on regen breaking alone), off-roading and wading spectacular mud in bentonite clay hills of South Dakota's Badlands, transported full 2500 lb loads of water and cement, run a professional welder off the 240V outlet, powered multiple variable-voltage (saws are tricky that way) power tools, charged BEHE (Battery Electric, Heavy Equipment) like my L25e Volvo loader as well as other Teslas, outraced sportscars and suped-up trucks, on windy backroads and crowded interstates. Or you could just share what you think you have learned from the outdated youtube vids you've watched. 😂

[@thewheeliain]

On the owner's forum, there's a bunch of people talking about vibration at 55 but that may be related to the deforming but that may be related to the tire foam coming loose. There's a few complaints about loud noises from the front (maybe motor or gearbox) but no one's had anything fixed yet. They are waiting in queue for but no one's had anything fixed yet. They are waiting in queue for the appointments.

[@metricstormtrooper]

Changing the motors isn't going to fix the UGLY and STUPID, We know you like the cyber truck, that's why I take your opinion with a grain of salt.

[@margarita8442]

pedestrian killer

[@raymondschembri5042]

Well , then stand infront of a semi and you’ll be safe😂😂😂😂

[@AudiTTQuattro2003]

​@@raymondschembri5042...about equal, great.

[@dangrass]

unlike all the US and Japanese pickups? You know, the ones whose number heights don't match up with cars and aren't subject to the same pedestrian safety regs as cars.

[@iowa_don]

Stand in front of ANY full size truck.