Tesla Cybertruck vs Ford Lightning - Feature Length Comparison!

What do I mean by feature length? I mean I just couldn't stop talking and we couldn't figure out how to cut this down to a normal 30 minute episode, so we decided to make it an hour long! Eeek!
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0:00 - Introduction
0:52 - What are they?
3:30 - Styling
6:30 - Suspension and clearance
11:29 - Tesla cargo area
15:35 - Seats
22:00 - Cybertruck Interior
29:42 - Lightning Interior
35:34 - Let's talk range
37:43 - Cargo beds compared
47:04 - How they Drive
54:41 - Conclusion

[@zschudrowitz155]

OMG! DON’T APOLOGIZE! This is THE BEST auto review channel on youtube! I LOVE that you go sooo in depth and analytical. 1 hour of helping us make decisions about a big purchase is THE BEST!

[@echel0nx]

I don't get why people are so worked up over Ford vs Tesla, EV vs gas, or what. Get whatever truck you want. Who cares.

[@markplott4820]

TESLA Cybertruck is a BETTER truck, hands down. CT has ROI of only 11 mos. let that sink in.

[@IanSizzler]

​@@markplott4820 😂 yea bud ok

[@tylerharvey9154]

Big. Brain individual here

[@TCDShow]

CyberTruck RULES! 😊

[@ericli6054]

Stupid people do not know what they want. Simple.

[@denniss1211]

Just OUTSTANDING !!!! you did not talk about the steer by wire... which is remarkable.

[@iNFECTED_pIE]

Love the long format content, thanks Alex!

[@officialyasir]

The est. range for the Cybertruck dual motor with all-terrains is 318 miles. The 340 miles is with all-season tires which Tesla hasn't started shipping yet.

[@gherreraj]

what’s your point? You are talking about something that doesn’t exist. You are living life on hopes and dreams.

[@ALMX5DP]

⁠@@gherrerajI think their point was that Alex mentioned 340 and not 318.

[@gherreraj]

@@ALMX5DP He has no point. He is talking about a fictional product that will make people think the Cybertruck is a good product. Remember when Elon said it would 500 miles of range when he first revealed it.

[@officialyasir]

@@gherreraj Did you watch the video? Alex kept mentioning Cybertruck's range as 340 miles, that's what I was correcting.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

340 miles is what Tesla told the owners of this truck... There's plenty of info Tesla hasn't shared yet, and this seems to be a point of confusion.

[@paulthing]

both look great to me. thank you for all the info!

[@baltazarkosa29]

very good comparison, very detailed! good work!

[@TroyMeekhof]

Made it to the end 😉 Excellent video! Two notes: The Destination Fee is $1,995, same as Tesla's other vehicles. Also, the "Foundation Series" is another name for "first edition"- there is no charity involved, all money goes straight into Tesla's profit margins (but you do get a bunch of premium features for the extra price).

[@feliciaordinary4910]

Terrific, objective, fact-based video!

[@mr.alasin1055]

Thanks for the video, I've been waiting for something like this for a while now, looking forward to more videos like this and I won't mind if it lasts 1 or 2 hours 😂

[@hwirtwirt4500]

Excellent and very comprehensive report Alex, thank you for the great effort. It was also very interesting and was easy to view in its entirety.

[@Wise-up-already]

Great commentary, very informative. Perfect delivery

[@ChristopherStandardTime]

6:22 that's actually a smart update. good to hear!

[@drive-channel1834]

Thanks Alex, I love this Feature Length Comparison video I'll be very happy if you make another one maybe Silverado EV and Rivian R1T or whatever is available

[@accountingstepbystep2229]

Wow! What performance!. No, not the trucks, Alex the host! He gets through a massive amount of material in a most meaningful way without a any hesitations or mistakes in the presentation. All perfectly timed and matched with outstanding video. Well, the trucks are nice too. As for me, I like the Cybertruck. Thank you for a great video!

[@KaiPonte]

Another great video. I have a buddy with a Cybertruck and love it. However, I would choose the Lightning over it. As a former Avalanche owner, I like the Silverado EV, but would be leery of their quality. 30,000 miles on my Mach-e and zero issues.

[@ekaddo]

Lightning is my 1st EV but 7th F150. 46,000 miles since January 2023 , really nice truck and electric saves a ton of fuel costs on my ~204 round trip commute.

[@Tanktaco]

Grinding dailies perfect for a long one.

[@nicolebradley3959]

Zack should start his own KZbin channel! I loved seeing him on camera comparing the ford F150 to the Tesla cyber Truck was awesome! 😊

[@shaggydogsales]

All the ford lightning models in my area are priced between 90 and 98k

[@wydryfly]

Crazy insane ridiculous. F Ford!

[@naaspam1185]

Look at another area. Autotrader with Radius set to 'Nationwide'. There are over 5000 new F-150Ls listed as available (5500 new and used), with loads priced below MSRP. If your area typically doesn't have great deals on vehicles, it's always best to look at regions that do. When I bought my last car, I went to Baltimore (from Michigan) and saved thousands. If you're looking to get a state EV tax credit, then you'd need to look at the rules for that, but the savings under MSRP may exceed the value of the credit.

[@christopherhughes7970]

I just bought the top end trim, the platinum for $72k…

[@darpompie4354]

Have no idea where you live, but there are crazy incentives on Lightnings everywhere I've checked. I live in Canada and they are selling Lariats for 65kCAN. That's around 48k US

[@KitsTech]

The fact that he said Ford sent him that Lightning, I knew how this was going to go. Lol

[@tbone9405]

I love my lightning, would like to see a Cyber Truck in person, and drive it.

[@markplott4820]

TESLA , actually built a BETTER truck from ground up.

[@tbone9405]

@@markplott4820 do you have one? I think the accelerator pedal falling off, carrot cutting frunk, is better built?

[@GET2222]

@@tbone9405both have been addressed. Pedal was fixed in 90 seconds. RIVIAN had a similar issue with their accelerator pedal. OTA for the frunk. They just adjusted the sensitivity of the lid sensors via OTA update. Anyone shutting their finger in any door is going to get hurt. You want to talk build quality? FORD is the worst automaker when it comes to recalls with 58 in 2023. (down from 61 in 2022) Ford CEO, Jim Farley, was irate about this. Tesla has 3 physical recalls. 13 of the others recalls were software recalls which didn’t require the owner to bring it in where ford owners had to bring in their trucks for build quality issues in 61 and 58 different stances totaling 119 recalls in two years. Who has build quality issues😂

[@rret6885]

​@@markplott4820form over function is never a winning design.

[@markplott4820]

@@rret6885 - Cybertruck was DESIGNED from Ground up to WIN the BAJA 1000 Rally.

[@JeepAndThings]

Oh why didn't they put the rear camera view in the mirror? I was offered a cyber truck in December, but can't bring myself to pay the Foundation tax of 27,500. Now I don't want it anymore. Bought my wife a Maverick XL and I pre-ordered a 24 Model 3 Performance. Both combined were less that the dual motor Cybertruck even without the Foundation tax.

[@oceanNmotoWoman]

That's pretty smart. The Maverick will handle 98% of normal peoples hauling needs and you can do zero emissions driving all day with the model 3

[@rare_wubbox360]

It isnt only a tax, among others you get fsd… value is soon to skytocket

[@hwirtwirt4500]

@@rare_wubbox360 "value is soon to skytocket" LOL!

[@Ken69690]

There is a rear camera view on the screen that he didn’t show

[@JeepAndThings]

I have a $50 one 9n my Jeep mirror. Tesla has electronics up there D, R, etc. It was a dumb idea to not put it in the mirror.

[@joebullwinkle5099]

Another tour de force review Alex, thank you. Very interesting to see the direct comparison between the lightning and cybertruck. The lightning isnt my cup of tea, however the cybertruck has its issues as well. If there is any possibility I would love to see a comparison video between the cybertruck and Chevy Silverado EV RST.

[@markplott4820]

Shitty Silverado EV is already a FLOP , Cybertruck outsold it. and Silverado EV weighs 9,000 lbs , just like the Hummer EV. CT is only 7,000 lbs , and has BEST in Class handling.

[@joebullwinkle5099]

@@markplott4820 Mmmmm, I’m attracted to the Silverado as it is a ground up EV design, rather than Fords conversion of an ice vehicle into an EV. Unfortunately the weight of the Silverado is a reflection of where we are in terms of the current battery tech, however, the real world 440 mile range is an enormous attraction to this vehicle. I do a lot of long-distance driving with a Tesla model Y. At Hwy speeds, I’ll get typically between 200 & 250 miles of usable range, depending on the speed. That can make things really really tricky in states where the public charging network is a little sparse. so I don’t think it’s a shitty vehicle at all!

[@kqschwarz]

Terrific and fair comparison. Both trucks are great if you need a truck. Hopefully, viewers that do not "need" at truck will purchase a car or small crossover, as the consumption of both of these vehicles are about double that of my Model Y. Thank you.

[@prawnmikus]

I was really hoping for some breakthrough body tech in the cybertruck, such as the aerospace stressed-skin exoskeleton they initially touted. Also no aluminum involved in the structure. Guess that was a tall order for engineering. If it was wider, longer, a bit taller, and an SUV, I'd want it. As it stands I'll let my day-2 order slip, as here in Canada who knows how long until we can actually have it. Picked up a Y instead to go along with my 3. So far the Y seems amazingly practical. Maybe tesla, since they are making a very conventional body, albeit with stainless slabs stuck on, should have gone all aluminum and beveled the edges. Oh well. Stick a foundation model in storage for 50 years and it'll be pretty valuable, I'd imagine.

[@markplott4820]

Cybertruck , is still Ground breaking w/ LARGE Front & Rear gigacastings, 4680 Structural battery pack. the BODY is all clad in 1.3mm HFS everywhere , except doors which are 1.8mm thick. ALL the Glass is also ARMORED and the ROOF glass is Structural. makes for the TOUGHEST truck ever PRODUCED.

[@pfwww12]

Watching this on my 65 inch TV. The Ford Lighting had super nice handling. Those turns were so flawless and kept up the exact same speed. The Cyber truck was box like around those roads. Also Fords new Magneride is like driving on train rails how well the suspension turns on corners and bends now. America baby🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@G-Rated]

I never thought I’d say this, but the Ford Lightning looks kinda good especially sitting next to the Cybertruck. The Tesla Cybertruck is like that ugly pair of designer shoes that are purposefully polarizing for some sort of “fashion statement” and all the desperately popular people are fighting to wear them first. 😬

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Fast fashion.

[@user-vx7vi3vq1c]

A burst hemorrhoid looks good sitting next to the Cybertruck.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

The interior looks much better in the Lightning compared to the drab cheap look of the Cybertruck.

[@canieto1]

The cyber truck is based in part on the lotus espirit from the 80s and 90s. I love that car when I was a kid (and still do) and I also love the cyber truck.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

@@canieto1 It looks nothing like the Esprit, that comparison (by conman Musk) is ridicules.

[@Mr_Make_It_Worse]

Great comparison video! The cybertruck was never on my radar due to its unproven reliability, experimental nature, its outrageous cost, and, let’s face it, it is pretty damn weird looking…… not that there’s anything wrong with that. 😅 😂 Although I’ve only had my 2023 F-150 lightning Lariat for eight months, I can say unequivocally that it is the most amazing vehicle I’ve ever owned and I could not be happier. It is scary fast, whisper quiet, incredibly comfortable, dirt cheap to operate, has excellent storage, great visibility, huge cabin space, unbelievable tech, beautiful interior appointments, spectacular exterior lighting, cameras everywhere, eye-popping metalflake paint, awesome B &O sound system, windows I can actually see out of,……. I could go on for a long time. Too expensive? List was about $70.000. Ford MoCo gave me a $7,500 discount at point of sale, the Dealer gave me a $3,500 discount & the feds gave me a $7,500 tax credit; a total discount of $18,500 making my net price $51,500. (I am 100% certain even better deals are available today.) This is only a little bit more than the price of a similarly equipped ICE (internal combustion engine) F-150; A difference I’ll quickly make up in reduced operating expenses, repairs, maintenance and fuel cost, not to mention the downtime I would lose while my ICE truck is being repaired. (The recommended 10,000 mile service for the lightning is fill the windshield washer reservoir and rotate the tires…….that’s it.) Charging at home at night while I sleep cost me $.14 per kilowatt hour. My 98 kWh battery is good for about 240 miles which is about the distance to New York City from Washington DC; a trip that would then cost me about $14.00. (The published federal fuel economy equivalent for my lightning is 62 miles per gallon.) My lightning has a 98 KWh battery, ten 120 Volt, 20 amp circuits and a 240 Volt, 30 amp circuit. It will power my entire house for up to 10 days. Not only is it an amazing pick up truck it’s also a whole house generator and a tax shelter! (That $7,500 federal tax credit, created a huge tax shelter for me using “bonus depreciation” in the year of purchase.) I feel like I won the lottery every day.

[@klyded8523]

Alex thanks so much for the video, this is why you're my favourite KZbin channel. I have a Cybertruck on order but I was unsure about the rear space for two child seats. Thanks to your video I have cancelled my order and will be getting a TRX instead. 🙏

[@sahajp11]

Look at kim java's video. It can fit 3 car seats in the rear

[@klyded8523]

@@sahajp11 need two seats and one person, don't need to compromise when I don't have to

[@caffeinatedfunctionality]

Yeah my cybertruck can easily fit two car seats and allow a full adult in the middle. There is a ton of space

[@Holy_Shadows]

I think they are both great trucks depending on what you are looking for. I myself will be getting a Cybertruck but either of these trucks are endlessly subjective. Great video that covers a lot of in depth content.

[@markplott4820]

the STOCK F150 Lightweight , cant go OFF ROAD. Cybertruck is an OFF ROAD 4x4.

[@StormyDog]

Like your t-shirt at the end. NACS. One plug to rule them all.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

You can find it (and other Alex designs) at www.aoamerch.com -Travis

[@marcvalme7732]

Is ground clearance really measured at the center? I did not know that, I always assumed it was at the lowest point, for independent suspension vehicles, that's usually the control arm

[@steinwaymodelb]

Technically the lowest point is the bottom of the tire tread...

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Usually it's measured down the centerline, not the lowest point.

[@BigDrummerg]

Wheres the carseat video he mentioned?

[@patch350]

Rear quarter panels are structural as well as revealed by service manual. They bolt directly to the rear structural aluminum castings and some backing stainless welded as well.

[@TonyStone3000]

Have you seen the article in which the rear 1/4 panel of a cybertruck flew off? Structural components do not fly off in the wind.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

All unibody body panels provide some structure, but this is not some kind of new spage-age exoskeleton as was originally implied, with good reason: unibodies just make sense.

[@markplott4820]

@@AAutoBuyersGuide - YOU cant dent a GIGACASTING , youll break your arm. ZERO creeks & squeaks w/ Gigacasting vehicles. BONUS - panel alignment is PERFECT. (stamped).

[@fantomtuba]

I'm starting to see a few CyberTrucks around Boston. I honestly think the new Santa Fe is more hideous looking.

[@amandaadler1860]

43:14 the floor on the F-150 Lightning IS in fact completely flat when you don’t have that under seat storage box. I can confirm.

[@Grilcantino]

Dear Alex, about Cybertruck my big concern is: high risk of iniuries - I suppose - in event of collision by pedestrian , cyclist, motocyclist because of sharp angles in the car body.

[@Rioichi4]

The CyberTruck is a Tesla that happens to have a truck bed. The F-150 is a truck that happens to be electrified.

[@markplott4820]

the Lightweight , is built on Horse & Buggy chassis.

[@mr.alasin1055]

You should start making a playlist for ev trucks only

[@rightlanehog3151]

Sorry Alex, I refuse to comment on this video.

[@JD-yx7be]

i refuse to reply

[@dongray6144]

​@@JD-yx7beI refuse to point out that you did in fact reply

[@G-Rated]

I refuse to point out that the OP definitely commented on this video.

[@CaptZattack]

I refuse to be a part of this conversation

[@United_Kangaroo1992]

No

[@kimle01]

Right now the f150 win for what you get for you dollar. Ford should have Output all 9.6 kw to the 240 outlet instead of splitting it. Also the Blue cruise need to be available in more road. From Houston to Austin it was not available on 50% of the 290 freeway!

[@markplott4820]

NOPE , it costs FUD motors $50,000 to repair the Lightning........lol. CT doesn't need repair for 200k miles.

[@kimle01]

Repair what for 50k. Cyber truck do need repair

[@markplott4820]

@@kimle01 - general maintenance & repair.. lol FUD is expensive to fix. CT doesn't need maintenance for 200k miles ....lol.

[@markplott4820]

@@kimle01 - FUD motors still using OUTDATED parts bin in 2024.....lol

[@churblefurbles]

Microfiber windshield wands are useful on any vehicle, its always an awkward arm position, I don't know why people don't spare the few bucks it costs.

[@danihellz]

Still one of the greatest car reviewers of all. Thank you for this one Alex.

[@oceanNmotoWoman]

5:22 am I the only one that got a physical oh my God I'm scared for Alex's head reaction? My gut brain screamed "That frunk breaks fingers Alex don't let it take your head!"

[@rare_wubbox360]

It does not brake fingers

[@user-vx7vi3vq1c]

The purpose of the Cybertruck is to draw attention to its owner. And that it does extremely well.

[@canieto1]

Hopefully the novelty wears off by the time I get my cyber truck because I love the cyber truck, but don’t love the attention. Yes, it is possible to have that combination.

[@TheRealYaro]

Incorrect statement. The polarizing design was a lead-in to the engineering advancements. Most Cybertruck owners are simply early adopters of revolutionary technology. They are convinced that it is paving the way of the future and are literally investing their money to ensure its success. If you’re looking for ego, talk to G-wagen or Cullinan owners.

[@user-vx7vi3vq1c]

@@TheRealYaro Ha! You really have bought into the hype. Elon needs a lot more people like you.

[@OnTheSnap1]

@@TheRealYarocorrect

[@D0li0]

At 56:15 donation? Wat? Please check again...

[@pierre.a.larsen]

Is this an old video? The locker controls are available on the Cybertrucks now with an over the air update;

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

We filmed this right before they came out

[@pierre.a.larsen]

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Thx for the info

[@johnross6314]

@@AAutoBuyersGuideyou should have made the edit. Leaving bad data in video to tilt the comparison, disingenuous.

[@chinnana583]

@@johnross6314 Alex is great detailed reviewer of the cars, but unfortunately hates Tesla, and always leaves out these and try to leave Tesla in negative light.

[@oceanNmotoWoman]

The team did make the effort. At eight minutes there is a screen prompt that explains that Tesla is "rolloing" an OTA update 😂 I love the typo

[@rare_wubbox360]

Cybertruck looks like it does because its engineered, not designed.. they wanted Extreme capabilities, super tough and no paint.. exactly what i look for

[@skywalker2852]

Interesting, I would have said the exact opposite. I think of "engineered" as setting a series of requirements (performance, capacity, functionality, etc.) and then designing around these requirement. I think of "designed" as styled to a target and then engineered to support that style. To my definition, I'd say the Cybertruck is "designed". But admittedly I have not driven one yet - I do think of my Model Y as "engineered" however.

[@user-sv9tc5ng5v]

What is the cheapest electric truck you can get today?

[@markplott4820]

KANDI K32 4x4 off road. next, Chang Li $2,000 UTV.....lol.

[@NightStalker83]

Structural battery pack and giga cast front and rear structure is not a unibody structure like a Silverado .

[@justintoso]

Rivian is just the right size.

[@kimle01]

Rivian is a Honda Ridgeline size.

[@markplott4820]

in 2024 RIVIAN still cant fix its very CRAPPY wields.

[@GONAVYCHIEF]

Great Video. I traded my 2023 F150 for the Lightening. I have to say I truly believe the ride is superior to my EcoBoost F-150. I can't take the Cyber Truck Seriously. To me it looks ridiculous. Got a good look at the Cyber Truck when we were having my wife's model Y serviced. It honestly looks cheaply made compared to the F-150. Definitely not for me. I think the hype will pass on the Cyber Truck and you will be able to pick one up cheap.

[@nevco8774]

I would prefer the Ford F150 Lightning upcoming second generation which has to have the battery size and the range of Chevrolet Silverado EV for 2 reasons: largest, most functional frunk, the most comfortable ride. Yes, Silverado has its perks with opening the cabin for cargo, but it's noisier. I'm interested in AC home charging speed. So far Ford has 80 A AC charging capability.

[@markplott4820]

FUD Lightning , still OUTDATED & too heavy , Inefficient. Lightning too reliant on Horse & Buggy TECH.

[@rambo4war]

Been a truck guy my whole life, I’ll take the cyber truck. Call this payback for all the issues I had with my K3500, my Silverado, my Canyon, my Ram, and my Raptor.

[@G-Rated]

They don’t care. *gm,* Stellantis, and Ford will call it “payback” once your excitement has dried up and you’re trying to sell your CT without paying Tesla $50k from the sale. You’ll be crying from dissatisfaction after you’ve peeped the resale value in a couple years as the price of the new ones drop. You’ll possibly make more money back renting it out than you will finding it a new home since *nobody* will be interested in dealing with one outside of warranty.

[@TonyStone3000]

Cybertruck also has issues. Have you not been paying attention?

[@Freakyguy666]

@@TonyStone3000had mine since March…ZERO issues…

[@darpompie4354]

lol. payback... If you are that soft about promises and problems, wait until you get into the world of ELON. Its one thing to say you like the cybertruck better due its features, completely another making decisions based on payback where essential you disservice yourself for something that absolutely nobody including all those companies you mentioned care about.

[@Freakyguy666]

@@darpompie4354 ya yer right, those other companies certainly don’t care about sales…😂

[@ElapsedBeats]

If it doesn't already exist, what would be really cool is a Lightning Raptor!

[@ALMX5DP]

Ford did allude to that with the Switchgear concept.

[@richdaley9982]

I have to admit that I don’t think the Cybertruck looks as stupid in person than it does in photos and videos. That said, I can’t think of a compelling reason anyone would buy one except that they want something different and they like the attention they get from owning it. I think it is fine for people to buy something just because they think it is cool. I have owned some pretty impractical vehicles in my time. I just feel like a better comparison would be with other “look at me” vehicles like the Hummer EV or even something like the FJ Cruiser.

[@OnTheSnap1]

I bought a cybertruck for - PowerShare (backup for my house), air suspension (entry mode and off road mode are awesome), autopilot and FSD (best in class at this point. CT gets it in June), drive by wire with 4 wheel steering (game changing), 11kw bidirectional capability. I get a lot of use from the exceptional high powered 240V and 120V outlets, exception power and speed (not much compromise for a truck vs a car)

[@hoffmantnt]

@56:15 Tesla is running a foundation that Cybertruck buyers are required to donate to? LOL

[@verbal213]

No, he was either misinformed, did not quite understand or was not clear in his messaging. Foundation series is what they are calling the first run of these trucks. It is a $20K option but it comes with a bunch of options that if selected would cost somewhere from 10-15K depending on estimates of what options will be. Certainly not fully accounting for the cost but it is a price to get the product earlier.

[@TheKingkingg]

1000000000000% lightning 🌩 😍

[@hardcoreherbivore4730]

After driving both, absolutely not.

[@TheKingkingg]

@hardcoreherbivore4730 I would choose Ford even with square wheels...looks often subject and not based on substance, however, this is Rachel McAdams(lightning) vs Mrs doubtfire(cyber truck)....I will always choose Rachel.

[@hardcoreherbivore4730]

@@TheKingkingg Very poor analogy. The Cybertruck feels like a sports car with 2500lbs payload. The Lightning feels like an ICE F150 carrying 1500 lbs of sand. Oh, and with only an 1800lbs payload.

[@TheKingkingg]

@@hardcoreherbivore4730 I have nsx type s, Integra type S and tlx type S....I need trucks to be trucks like my Ridgeline trucks are and F350 platinum....I really don't care what you think.

[@markplott4820]

facts for each BEV FUD motors makes, it costs them $130,000 to produce. unsustainable.

[@brunoheggli2888]

Game over for Tesla!

[@markplott4820]

@@brunoheggli2888 - TESLA to announce 4 NEW Affordable vehicles in 2025. let that sink in.

[@markplott4820]

@@brunoheggli2888 - BONUS , is costs FUD motors $50k to fix each BEV it makes.

[@FreedomAtRisk]

We need a full length video about your amazing hairline

[@billdale1]

LOL! Crazy

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Aww, thanks!

[@rblbatb]

These are both wildly expensive. At least the cyber truck looks different.

[@markplott4820]

CT is a BETTER built truck.

[@wydryfly]

When I get my brand new cybertruck, I will forever park directly next to the grocery cart return area in the parking lot. Let’s see how many new lightning owners will make that pledge. 😂

[@billdale1]

OMG, dude, that was good for a serious belly laugh!😂

[@golfish8589]

I was under the impressions that the Ford Lightning did not redesign the frame.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

The frame and everything attached to it are completely different than the normal F150, it's more heavy duty and completely unique.

[@golfish8589]

I saw a frame comparison on Sandy Munro youtube tear down. The Rivian had much more space beyween the frame rails than the Ford. Maybe Ford needed to keep that frame width so mounting points for the cab and bed would stay the same. A wider distance between frame rails would have given Ford more space for batteries.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

@@golfish8589 The Rivian frame is bolted (about 65 perimeter bolts ) and glued to the body, this looks like a late in the design fix due to lack of rigidity of the original frame design. In doing so there are hydraulic and electrical lines trapped between the body and frame that are unserviceable without major disassembly. Hopefully this will be corrected in future designs. The wider spacing of the frame rails does allow for more battery modules.

[@golfish8589]

Do you have a link to the Rivian info? It sounds interesting.

[@markplott4820]

FUD Lightweight uses STOCK frame. no Gigacastings , no Structural pack.

[@stevenkong8837]

I'd definitely get the F150 over Cybertruck.

[@markplott4820]

check, you like OUTDATED horse & buggy TECH.

[@dvwatts]

Most comparison reviews seem to always leave out the fact that Tesla has a dashcam using the cars cameras to record and save the front, rear and side cameras, as well as Sentry. This is very useful if you are in an accident. The car can also can be remote viewed in realtime from the app. The sound systems are also VASTLY superior to what is in Ford. These are two things I really miss in the Lightning as a Tesla owner.

[@BryceLovesTech]

1000% agreed also don’t forget that every tech Tesla can work on electric vehicle. I’ve been told that sometimes there’s a traveling tech that I can only work on legacy electric vehicles and they service about 10 different dealerships.

[@GGChinatownTV-ym4zg]

To me, the interior of the Cybertruck is regress, not progress.

[@MrQuay03]

To each their own

[@geosh10]

My 2023 GT has been a great vehicle. I wish I had the Magna ride, it’s rough without it. I’ll drive it to 100,000 miles and then get another one.

[@misterx280]

I dont consider the Cyber truck as a truck. its more of an SUV with a bed.

[@achasilas6535]

You be wrong!

[@markplott4820]

the CT SUV is coming 2026.

[@boostav]

Because it has a longer bed and significantly higher payload than the Lightning?

[@ltkwok]

Excellent review. Clear the CT is not functionally for the pickup truck customer & more for someone who wants attention.

[@rare_wubbox360]

What? Cybertruck is super functionally… and in june fsd will make it way better

[@markplott4820]

FALSE , as STOCK the CT is 4x4 OFF ROAD, the Lightning cant go off road w/o parts. the CT has MORE utility than Lightning or any other Truck , more USE case.

[@naaspam1185]

You can fit 80" sheets in the back of the CT without it hanging off the tailgate, so long as you don't have a stack higher than 4"! The higher the stack, the more each additional sheet will stick out, giving a reverse stair step hanging out the back. Ayayaya, what a silly design. The benefit of the rear cup holders in the F-150L is you can both use them with 3 passengers in the back seat, or they can become additional cupholders accessible from the front seats. Probably pretty useful for a long road trip for 2 passengers to have 4 cupholders. Meanwhile, in the CT, there are only two cupholders accessible accessible from the front seat, and with 3 rear passengers, there are no rear cupholders since they're in the rear center armrest. Small usability things like this matter. That really shows how Ford designs their trucks, with the ultimate focus being on utility and usability. The Cybertruck is Tesla's first truck, and it shows. Designed more like a stylistic car with a bed, primarily meant for daily commutes and to turn heads, versus as a work and/or utility truck. And that's actually kind of sad. I personally don't promote people buying trucks who don't absolutely need trucks, given their inefficiency and huge resource use. Tesla, "the company that's done for the most for the environment, and the man who by extension who has done the most for the environment", has built a truck that will primarily be used as an extremely inefficient commuter car that in no way is good for the environment. The overall design of the CT just seems flawed and bad. Stainless steel panels sticking out where they can cut people. Huge blind spots. Interior design flaws like not being able to reach the front of the windshield for cleaning. High sidewalls in the truck bed making it impossible to reach over. The weird sloping and inconsistent side walls in the truck bed that skew the dimensions and can make its usable space even smaller than the F-150s. You mention the smaller amount of glass in the F-150L, yet every video it seems like the F-150's interior is brighter and more open. It also has a sunroof that can open to help air it out if the truck's been sitting in the sun, a sun shade if a worker wants to get out of the sun after being in it all day. The frunk in the F-150L looks to be far more usable for multiple applications... except as you point out, putting a single golf bag in it; which oddly enough, is about as the extent of hauling as I expect CT owners to do. Plus, the CT is more expensive. I just don't see in what world a person who actually needs a truck would ever choose the CT over the F-150L. Of course, from the looks of things, most people are still opting for ICEV trucks, so I guess the situation is moot for now.

[@Wi2Low]

TLDR from hell. Blah blah...

[@Abebe345]

The Cybertruck has plenty of advantages over the traditional Ford and more than a few have ditched traditional trucks for it.

[@billdale1]

Lots of interesting data, but considering that the Lightning is selling for something like $100,000 less than it costs to produce it, Ford is going to have to pull a rabbit out of their hat, or they will soon be in the unemployment line. There are reasons I have liked Ford for many decades, but they really need to look at some extreme measures, such as buying a Gigapress to reduce production costs even if it means an enormous up-front expense, plus switching to a complete 48 V system, and an an advanced wiring design similar to the one the CT uses. Adopting Tesla's wiring approach would dramatically reduce copper weight and material cost. Swallow your pride. Use Tesla's cost- saving tricks everywhere you can to keep your head above water. Even if the result is a few grand higher sticker price than Tesla, you may have enough Ford loyalists to make you solvent.

[@Abebe345]

The Cybertruck is Truck 2.0 designed ground up. You had to give up 1/3 of your truck for an engine bay, but keeping that for an EV can't be good design. Cybertruck extends the windshield, no longer needing to shove it in your face, and instantly takes the engine space and gives a spacious cabin impression to driver and pax. The roof of the CT is glass so it's as bright as you want to make it. The CT has a larger bed, but also gives you a tonneau that quickly secures and protects your gear. The Cybertrunck works great as a bench. The stainless steel, on top of saving cost, taking away scratches and damage which is the bane of work trucks (people want their truck to look good so repairs are expensive), it also gives CT 25% more rigidity so it rides much more like a stable sedan than bouncing truck like traditional Lightning. The CT gives you all that space but still fits in almost all garages. Call it an SUV w a bed, or what have you, it excels off road, huge payload, huge towing, lots of space, and great technology making handling easy for all. Not a surprise Ford has one on testing grounds. It's very popular across a wide spectrum of buyers already from rural to urban. The extender will prove popular.

[@canieto1]

But do you understand the concept of having a truck for things other than construction work? The cyber truck will work just fine for people like me who do light off-road stuff and haul dirt bikes, and gear to various locations.

[@hankclouser7762]

Interesting not much was said about the 48 volt steer by wire and the rear wheel steering. Be interesting if the rest of the industry will adopt this technology as it seems a game changer

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Other vehicles have rear wheel steer, including two competitive trucks. The 48V system is interesting, but at the moment it's impact is uncertain. It has plenty of promise, but little actual impact at the moment.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

The 48 volt system was required to run the steer by wire system, other than that it serves no useful purpose. Ironically tesla fanboys constantly repeat the innovation of a 48 volt system like it's some kind of engineering breakthrough when in reality it's nothing but hype.

[@michaelpartridge3723]

I believe it also allowed smaller amount of wiring and the Ethernet ring system saving weight and price

[@hwirtwirt4500]

@@michaelpartridge3723 The small amount of weight savings is easily offset by the weight and cost of the 48 volt battery and associated charging electronics.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

The ethernet system didn't need the 48V, but the steering system did, as do many other high draw systems. In a logical world if we developed cars new today, 24 or 48V would make more sense than 12V, but there isn't a huge world of benefit and there's also a lack of supplier support for 48V which is why to this point only high draw systems in other vehicles have moved. The reality is that if the device has a low current draw, say interior LED lights, or signaling controls for switches, etc then you are unlikely to save much weight on those systems by switching to 48V because the gauge of the wiring is already very small. Electric power steering should see solid weight savings, but there are other 12/48V out there that run those systems on 48V already. And lastly, the CT still has to have a 12V subsystem around because the lighter socket and trailer wiring harnesses use 12V. I applaud Tesla for pushing their suppliers to complete the transition to 48V on systems like window motors, etc but the long term benefit is unclear. If nobody else follows, then it may just make parts more expensive for Tesla owners, but if the industry does follow then everyone could benefit. Even slight weight reductions are important.

[@rogue13131313]

ANY truck should have a full size spare tire...period.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

A spare tire shouldn't be an optional accessory on a 100K+ truck.

[@markplott4820]

NOT needed anymore. DELETE.

[@JNow4Now]

U 4 got to mention the offroad mode and all its features, especially front and back differential locks. Also, the FSD features.

[@korvics]

Differential locks were mentioned - as was the fact they are not yet available. Nice try, lol.

[@trondialsingh594]

Ford lightning charging speed is too slow compared to cybertruck. F150 150kw cybertruck 350kw

[@randolphpaul5899]

Cybertruck has a close resemblance to the F117 Nighthawk Stealth Aircraft.

[@markplott4820]

its even BETTER , w/ lowering kit, street tires & Total Body AREO kit.

[@naveenthemachine]

I find the cyber truck bold and interesting. People are buying it in the Bay Area. I see more cyber trucks than lightnings so that should tell you something

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Lighting is still selling better

[@ALMX5DP]

The Bay Area is it’s own microclimate, and being that was/is Teslas front and back yard makes sense there would be a disproportionate amount of CTs running around there versus other parts of the state or country.

[@Abebe345]

@@AAutoBuyersGuide Not true. Tesla can't make more than 250/day but have an order book many years deep.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

Order books are not sales. It's simple fact that Lightning is selling better. Whether or not Cybertruck sells better in the future is a different matter, but at the moment Lightning is selling better.

[@Abebe345]

@@AAutoBuyersGuide it is not selling better. It simply has supply where Cybertruck is in early days of ramp. That is not better in my book. Selling better implies demand is higher as better is a qualitative term. Selling more mechanically at the moment but imo people care about the demand for each.

[@tonymcflattie2450]

The mullosk mobile is great other than you can’t see out of it, it’s too expensive and looks like poo

[@churblefurbles]

Based on the amount they lose per truck, the Ford will never be a viable product.

[@markplott4820]

Ford also spends $50k to repair each Lightning........lol.

[@chomar97]

Great video but you forgot to mention cybertruck best feature the guillotine frunck that chops carrots and fingers😊. It looks as if the infotainment system in CyberT is broken then the truck is useless where in F150 you still have real buttons to operate the truck. FI5O all the way for me.

[@hwirtwirt4500]

This is a Cybertruck feature, you don't have to carry a bunch of kitchen utensils when camping. Your meal can be prepared using the sharp edges of the doors and hood. A Tesla exclusive.

[@markplott4820]

ZERO people have EVER been injured by Cybertruck.

[@rk-xv4km]

Bottomline LITERALLY what is it worth ten years from now. What is the residual value??? WHY??? Purchase $$$ minus residual value is YOUR true cost. The reason the VW beatle, Jeeps, toyota midsize trucks, hold value is people spend $ thousands to maintain them rather than pay tens of thousands to buy new. ASK..... which one can have the battery repaired, replaced, upgraded easily. I suspect it will never be a tesla....sorry fan boys!

[@rogue13131313]

If Ford or GM came out with the Cyber Truck design, it would've been laughed off the face of the Earth. ALL Tesla fanboy hype

[@G-Rated]

They would have ripped *gm* A PART 😂

[@hardcoreherbivore4730]

You’re going to be very butt hurt when they’re everywhere. 😏

[@cheapme1850]

If Tesla had made the Aztek, it would’ve been given rave reviews and called revolutionary.

[@G-Rated]

@@cheapme1850 they would’ve called it polarizing, you love it or you don’t, and the *most popular* car with styling ahead of it’s time. 😭😭😭

[@tsemnani]

It ***is*** being laughed off the face of the earth.

[@alexmar1382]

nope!

[@AmericanRoads]

I'd very much rather watch a one-hour episode by Alex, than a 10-minute of that joke of "car review" channel known as TheStraightPipes.

[@TacoRob72]

I just can’t stand to even look at that cybertruck to be honest.

[@StormyDog]

He says as he hangs out the window at 70 mph with his phone...

[@SSS-mp8th]

Went to a Cars n Coffee style event yesterday and they had a Cybertruck there. Looks just as stupid in person as it does in photos/video. Would gladly take any of the Kei trucks they had there instead.

[@RedRyz3n]

People who want a pickup to do truck things buy any pickup on the market. People who need attention and have more money than sense buy a Tesla Cybertruck, make a few videos of why they bought it, and then a few months later, make a video of why they sold it...

[@billdale1]

You agree to not sell the CT for two years, so anyone that buys it is really intending to hold on to it.

[@aboumawiyah]

Tesla buyers are alpha testers.

[@rare_wubbox360]

That Tesla looks awesome!! The Ford is just boring

[@christiandrangsholt868]

Ford lightning

[@markplott4820]

FUD gas Lighting.........lol.

[@spinmouth4114]

Ford F-150 Lightning ALL DAY. Ford is a usable truck, that looks and feels like a real truck instead of a gimmick. Ford has full time door handles, available all the time, a truck bed capable of carry most anything, no sharp corners, windshiled is tilted upright and proper, headroom is fantastic, ground clearance, as it should be, and controls are user friendly. Ford just works. As for the cyberflop, it's not a truck, its a gimmick, whith sharp edges to cut you, a slanted bed that won't hold a full load od upright items safely, a slanted windshield and receeding roofline that has no practicle use for teng anything of notible size down, anf genrerally the FUGLIEST vehcile design a wind tunnel worshipping idiot could ever spend good money making such a useless thing, that doesnt even offroad worth a damn.

[@russ2714]

I don't care for the looks of the Cybertruck at all. Furthermore most of the features that make it special actually detract from its usability; the huge windshield that as you noted actually decreases visibility, the single big wiper that doesn't clear as well, the rear window obstructed by the tonneau cover and the rugged stainless steel body panels that show every fingerprint and is harder to maintain than a painted truck, Tesla's obsession with having every control on the screen and the silly steering wheel...and it's really not especially good off-road either. It's just a series of misses in my book. The Ford on the other hand is pretty much what a truck guy would want in an electric truck, as long as they don't tow or don't tow far (and in that use case there's the Silverado EV).

[@hwirtwirt4500]

My daily commute on local expressways results in a chipped windshield every few years, I can't imagine the replacement cost of the Cybertruck windshield.

[@drtydsh]

Nothing beats that charging network.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

No one wants to charge outside the home.

[@ALMX5DP]

A charging network that both vehicles can use.

[@ryanfraley7113]

Both Ford and Tesla have access to that network.

[@bradyb9929]

Ford every day and twice on Sundays

[@markplott4820]

FORD trucks in the Garage for Repairs 5 days per week.

[@NorwayChallenge]

I don’t know why anyone would get a cybertruck even if you could get one (they’ve only been able to make about 4000 so far). It’s the worst Tesla you can get and arguably the worst EV pick up too.

[@markplott4820]

more like +8000 now. and they are Accelerating.

[@markplott4820]

CT literally the TOUGHEST pickup truck you can buy.

[@NorwayChallenge]

@@markplott4820 based on what? The recall was little over a month ago. I doubt they just all of the sudden were able to double what they made in several months

[@NorwayChallenge]

@@markplott4820 Yeah just don’t get bugs on it, drive it through a car wash, use the pedal because the cover may very well come off and push the accelerator down or drive it off road. Heck there are videos of multiple of them breaking after just a few miles and some have even had panels come off. Even avid CT fans have posted about how it’s spent more time in the shop than on the road.

[@markplott4820]

@@NorwayChallenge - petal NON issue anymore, all vehicles FIXED. HFS is non stick. just wash w/ tap water.

[@gocybertruck8189]

Cybertruck is future and cool.

[@Trades46]

Absolutely no reason to get a CT unless you want to show how much of a "big man compensating for his inadequacy" you are, ironic just like Elon Musk himself. The build quality is beyond atrocious, recalls galore (stuck accelerator pedals, wheel covers eating tires, stainless steel panels falling off etc.) and it isn't particularly good at being a truck with its silly design. The biggest kick in the pants is that Ford is the first OEM with NACS support, which completely eliminates the Tesla advantage since the F150 Lightning can use Superchargers & CCS at your convenience while the CT with its poorly designed charging port location means even Tesla's own CCS to NACS adapter doesn't even work on its own truck.

[@ryanfraley7113]

Ford made a real truck, Tesla made a very odd thing to try to reinvent a product that didn’t need reinvention. I do respect that Tesla engineers tried things like 800v and steer by wire, but that’s all things that Ford can also implement on the next generation of the Lightning.

[@officialyasir]

Cybertruck has higher payload and towing capacity (2500 lbs and 11k lbs). Air suspension allows it up to 16" ground clearance. It has front and rear lockers vs only rear for F150. And you still think Cybertruck isn't a real truck?

[@ryanfraley7113]

@@officialyasir Not with that design and build quality

[@hwirtwirt4500]

@@officialyasir The unibody chassis will twist like a wet noodle and squeak like a rusty door hinge with 2500 lbs. in the bed. Looking forward to seeing that specification tested.

[@markplott4820]

FUD Lightning made w/Horse & Buggy TECH.

[@boostav]

@@hwirtwirt4500 Except it has far higher torsional rigidity

[@G-Rated]

I think a LED ambient lighting strip across the dash right in front of the driver’s view at night is stupid.

[@Jgjginkg244]

Hideous = Tesla Cyber truck

[@markplott4820]

CT = Litteral TOUGHEST truck in Production.

[@mrgurulittle7000]

Lightning a thousand times over that Tesla crap. If the Cybertruck looked like Tesla’s other cars, then it would’ve been a smash hit.