Tesla FSD 11.4.4 brings MAJOR Regressions

[@AIDRIVR]

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[@stcredzero]

It sounded like your Tesla sometimes anticipates "pinch points" where traffic is merging. I have no confidence that my FSD beta will do this! When I see it coming up in heavy traffic, I pretty much take over and either speed up or slow down to give the other cars extra space. It's like FSD beta has no sensitivity to another car getting closer, with little to no bearing change. That's the classic looming collision heuristic that seems to be built into to organisms with sight!

[@NixxyVR]

No, I do not believe you did had to stop at that one intersection, although most humans probably would have to get a better view

[@SublimyMonkey]

On data connectivity, sounds like enabling FSD is what is causing the issues. Given you drive in self-driving a lot and submitting many snapshots when you do drive, my guess is that the harddrive or upload queue is full. Sounds like a bug once you've hit thousands of snapshots basically. If you or Tesla can delete them from your car's storage, would fix the issue if I'm correct.

[@sbiefeni1]

I actually think the "take over immediately" chime is a good idea to use more often, although they could really rename it to "I think I know what I'm doing, but please pay close attention while I do it"

[@Valiryon]

If they do that, they need to give us the option to turn it off. I already pay close attention without the need for them to blast me with noises. If the car is making a maneuver, showing something in the display is good enough for me. I often take over because I have no feedback from the car other than it's slowing/stopping for no apparent reason.

[@DarkNemesis25]

I feel that when I see the nag pop up in construction it gives a different icon also. That's my que to take a closer focus. I don't mind it at all when I know it's not confident I kindnof w8sh it would be more vocal with it to let it try things and not be shocked by abrupt choices

[@tech-utuber2219]

@@Valiryon I would agree with everything you wrote if this was the release version but while it is still in BETA training, this is perfectly acceptable for now.

[@madhououinkyoma]

rolls off the tongue

[@FlorentHenry]

That would open the door to more inattentive drivers

[@nowsc]

… Yes, you are not alone :-) your connectivity issue which you mention sounds 99.9% similar to the problem I’ve been having with my car. It’s been a horrible, horrible experience with the Tesla Service Center here in my city. I’ll be brief: my 2018 model three has been in and out of the Tesla’s repair shop at least 11 times since last August, about. It’s always about the same problem - connectivity. They’ve REPLACED EVERYTHING they can think of, even the computer! It’s still not fixed, (worse, in fact) and I have a long, long story/struggle with our local service center in Salt Lake City (no, I am not a Mormon :-) I could talk more if you want to call me to talk; I just don’t know how to leave my phone number for you here. Keep up the great work that you do. I look forward to every episode of your driving, and thanks for .

[@bishop341-b8]

I cannot use FSD without intervention... even on a 1 mile drive to the grocery store on a Sunday morning in West Berkeley. I've had it practically strike pedestrians, suddenly stop in the middle of intersections while traffic is flowing, attempt to use a parking lot as a city street, miss very basic navigation routes, run stop signs, software restart while driving, turn signal stop working, and much more. Ever since automatic lane changes could only be stopped by turn signal intervention, I've just about stopped using FSD altogether. FSD causes more stress and is more dangerous than me just being in total control. I have a 2019 Model 3. Side note - I love occasionally spotting your AI DRIVR tag in town! My family is utterly confused by my pointing and giddyness whenever spotting you!

[@ericelfner]

As a fellow beta tester, I too find 11.4.4 to be... troublesome. I have become a strong believer that FSD performance is very correlated to good map metadata. For now my mantra has become, "Take over early and often."

[@rustyfox81]

Are there any good video explaining the whole map data thing ? Does Tesla have its own map data at this stage ?

[@ericelfner]

@@rustyfox81 Telsa has primarily stated they want to be able to drive with "vision only". But, they are now adding HD radars. My (and others?) speculation about map metadata is the best explanation for why FSD can perform better in some areas. And, those areas are often areas with a high density of Teslas or popular KZbin FSD vloggers. YMMV

[@captspeedy1899]

So it's just a trick

[@thomasreese2816]

11.4.4 has not been great for me either... Routing in-drive has gotten worse

[@Elektro2024]

@@ericelfner Vision only with remembering how to handle situations where you've been before may be acceptable, but vision only will guarantee the technology will never be ready at certain places for everyone every time. Also, I've had the most dangerous situations created when the car is struggling with internet issues and suddenly gets a burst of data packets for a new route and urgently transitions to that new path without warning, leaving everyone in the car wondering if we'll survive. I haven't seen this problem in awhile so maybe addressed!?

[@Colecraft13]

Glad to see I'm not the only one noticing the regressions

[@WirageVoyage]

The Human Honk counter at 9:18 made me chuckle. It's a great addition ;D I remember how it was talked about in an earlier video

[@wrefk]

man those roads you drive seem like hard mode, every time I watch these i'm impressed it handles it any bit as well as it does

[@martinvannijnatten8134]

this is a great route to check whether future version will improve on the regressions .... keep it up!

[@SHAREMediaBK]

Most impressed watching your battery meter! Went up from 48% to 49% at one point!

[@SDLordHUN]

yeah it is recuperating

[@Pavel_draganov]

It recalculates the battery percentage and miles by driving style(uphill, highway...)I think

[@tesladura3085]

My experience is similar to yours with 11.4.4 regressions. Occasional unnecessary slowing, unnecessary lane changing on the route (even when set to minimize them) and a certain timidity in lane changes on the freeway, even in assertive mode with only moderate traffic. I created a video specifically with this issue. Gotta say though, you are putting this thing through edge case hell, this time. Always enjoy your perspective and videos. Thanks!

[@saykharng]

The amount of work you do for the videos is crazy. Hats of to you for the great production. ❤️🙏

[@delschier1419]

I have 77K miles on my 2016 model S and find the old autopilot good and useful. I just drove a friend's Model 3 with the FSD option and the latest FSD beta activated. It worked but nowhere near autonomous. On a short 5 mile light traffic trip it made it to the destination of Home Depot; almost. It could not back out of the driveway and when it got into the parking lot it went on a collision course to parked trailers and I had to quickly take over. It turned left at a simple intersection when the light turned green it cut sharply and almost clipped the car sitting at the light for the other direction. On the return trip it started to pull out from a stop sign with a car coming and I had to stop it from doing that. It ignores potholes and it tried to run over a kid playing in a side street, but he got out of the way. I am sure it would run over dogs and cats. The $15K my friend spent for the FSD option is a total rip off profit center for Tesla FSD will probably not be safe until after his car is worn out. The should be paying drivers to test the beta not the other way around.

[@chrismarquardt]

Thanks for yet another piece of great quality content. You’re one of the few creators that manage to make me drop almost everything and watch their new videos right away.

[@Duder0n]

The chime is not a "take over immediately" chime. It's the forward collision warning chime. "Take over immediately" is the red hands coupled with the chime.

[@sachmuer1]

yes you are right, the new beta seems to have some difficulties that did not exist before, hope that the autopilot team will fixes those one the next version. I love your videos and I'm glad to see a new video of you :)

[@l0v3nul]

Just unbelievable videos. Amazing visualizations, comments even your voice is just perfect. Never thought I would enjoy so much a vehicle moving around 😂 thank you very much and keep doing what you do, it provides great insight especially to those not able to test FSD.

[@GreylanderTV]

20:50 I think it was stopping for the stop sign that was pointing the other way. As a silhouette it definitely looked like it could be for you but in shadow/dirty or something. I'm sure it only gave a small chance the stop sign was legit for you (hence we see everything interpreted correctly in the visualization) but the uncertainty (maybe only a small percent) was enough to go ahead and cautiously stop _as if_ it was a legit stop sing for your lane/direction.

[@TenchiFox]

Yep, that's what I commented as well.

[@Darthus]

However, it also momentarily highlighted the car coming in the opposite lane in blue as well, which usually means a car blocking the path, so that could have also been an issue.

[@GreylanderTV]

@@Darthus Good catch, that probably added to the uncertainty. Or maybe it was the entire reason for the stop.

[@katysramkova]

Seems to me that the confusing turn signals usually appear when the path planning sees something far ahead to go around.

[@BrianBull]

14:49 Interesting that the car saw break lights here.

[@gfbrnby]

I found 11.4.3 to be very impressive but I'm experiencing lots of problems with 11.4.4: frequent unnecessary stops on city streets and lots of sudden little jerks to the left of right on both highways and city streets. Today the car suddenly served to the left into the oncoming traffic lane. I'm sure I must have freaked out the oncoming bus driver and the driver behind me. That's the first dangerous thing FSD beta has done for a long time.

[@antonioarroyas7662]

Really excitted for you to hit 100k, you deserve it.

[@stephencampbell9095]

I was in the Berkeley area a few weeks ago. Driving 11.4.3. The whole area is definitely a challenge. Arlington Circle was much busier when we went through and was honked at a few times before making it through. I found it nerve racking when it would make UPLs on very narrow roads with no visibility for me but it would plow on through quicker than I was comfortable with. Now on 11.4.4 and not in that area to try it out. Where I am now, it’s working pretty well but still a lot of quirks with all the construction around here. Smoothness in acceleration and braking seems better and more natural. Proper lane selection is still not so good. Keep up the good work! I really enjoy your videos. Top notch!

[@sccjacob]

20:50 car stopped early due to the other stop sign on the right side for people traveling the opposite way

[@AntoineThisdale]

I agree. .3 was pretty damn impressive, it felt like a leap. .4 unfortunately took us back to the times of the 10 series.

[@EpicBenjo]

I really wonder why!

[@gamerguy9533]

It’s a good day when a video comes up!

[@FermiBubbleGummyBear]

The funny thing is that the previous 2 updates had major issues for me but the funny thing is that it started suddenly, as if it were a neural network issue. But after 11.4.4, it fixed a lot of the issues i was experiencing. Prior to 11.4.4, I was forcing disengagements so frequently, I just ended up not using it unless it were a simple drive. After 11.4.4, I can do the same routes with 80%-90% success/minimal disengagement, albeit with some weird behaviors I've never seen since the inital v11 update.

[@TeslaTechNow]

Great video! I also have FSD 11.4.4 and have noticed regression in many areas. Specifically, driving down a two lane boulevard in the left lane and the navigation is to go straight, but FSD moves into a left turning lane doing 60kms/hr (37 miles/hr) where there is a concrete boulevard 100ft in front of me, then quickly moves back into the lane. Quite a scary scenario when you are not expecting it. Made my wife scream in terror as a passenger. Not good for me ;-) Also noticed taking one specific right hand turn is not smooth. Car cannot decide if it is going to turn or go straight even though navigation is to turn. There is a concrete curb that gives a small right hand turn lane. I usually have to take over in these scenarios. Was working great a v11.4.2, but not so good now. Fingers crossed for more improvement in the next iterations!

[@quickpstuts412]

I had the EXACT same two scenarios today. Was in the left lane and the car took a dive into the left turning lane all of a sudden. And then down the street, it struggles with this right turn and I think it gets tripped up by the cub. The wheel goes back and forth as if it's confused and I get the takeover chime.

[@timlamacchia7070]

I love in the Florida keys we only have one main road which we all travel allot (us1). My car dives into turn only lanes when the navigation path is to go forward. It does this at the same spots in the road consistently. I report it each time. But it is so potentially dangerous I called Tesla. They said they were going to raise the issue with management. We will see

[@andromedach]

my real concern, I own a 2013 TM3 with FSD, is that it won't be long before FSD features require HW4. HW3 and the camera layout if not specifications of the cameras on my 2018 really isn't sufficient for the car to properly see.

[@ThePtgman]

FWIW, here's my input... At 4:35 mark, the two cones PLUS the car with emerg flashers ON gave a "construction zone / hazzard" indication. (The beta did well.) At the 14:30 mark, the utility truck appears to have stayed in a "fixed position" relative to your car...but by it turning slowly toward you the visual presentation seen by the camera made it appear still stopped, but getting larger! Relativity is a factor for us, too. E.g. Whilst flying military jets and "forming up" as a wingman, we use "cut-off" and keep the lead aircraft in a "fixed position" on the windscreen. However, if we don't monitor the rate of closure (on the lead aircraft), the spot (jet) that doesn't move at all on the windscreen is the one we will hit!

[@BobSwithers]

I think I had all the same troublesome issues you described -- connectivity problems (and the many things that impacts), inconsistent activating FSD, .... They replaced the computing board and all problems were resolved, thankfully under warranty.

[@georgepelton5645]

Thanks for this video. I love the format, including the camera behind the car. It is easy to see what is happening both on the screens and in the real world surroundings. Commentary is first rate as well, very calm and informative. I also have the same impression of 11.4.4 in my 2022 Model Y. It seems less predictable than previous versions, including not stopping for some stop signs. There is one stop sign that is clearly visible from a distance that it repeatably will drive through at 55 mph, right into 65 mph cross traffic that doesn't have to stop! The stop sign does show up on the screen. Previous versions had no problem stopping at this intersection.

[@ethanphan7171]

glad this video came out- my 2023 model 3 does not have the ultrasonic sensors- it likes to make red light right hand turns when it wasn't safe to do so (oncoming traffic), running straight into concrete barriers (which it did not recognize on the display), or start changing lanes when a car was directly next to it, making it move suddenly back into its original lane... older versions were more reliable. though it definitely had more trouble in tight roads like Berkeley, rather than open roads like in SoCal

[@Pikminiman]

One time a few days ago, 11.4.2 completely ignored a stop sign in my neighborhood. I was thankful the intersection was empty at the time.

[@roka]

The connectivity issue is common with a lot of OG beta testers (that still have the snapshot button). It most likely has nothing to do with your car. You can get rid of it by toggling FSD Beta off. It also seems to be good for a little while after a new firmware installation (or after a reset, in your case), but will come back rather sooner than later.

[@Fake_Blood]

Maybe the many snapshots create too much data?

[@roka]

@@Fake_Blood It even happens without using the snapshot button. It is quite strange... Also, the car doesn't seem to recover - it feels like a buffer that gets filled, but never emptied (other than by resetting the car or installing an update).

[@AIDRIVR]

Even disabling FSD does not bring data connection back. Only way I've gotten it back is a factory reset

[@roka]

@@AIDRIVR OK - I can toggle FSD off (not just disable, but toggle off in the menu), and I don't have connectivity issues anymore. It's a weird thing - but lots of other OGs have the same issue. At least you are not alone :)

[@georgepelton5645]

@@AIDRIVR Chris at Dirty Tesla also had intermittent connectivity issues in his Model Y. He finally convinced Tesla to replace his connectivity circuit board under warranty, and that fixed his issues.

[@imagineoneday]

How do you do that fantastic aerial follow shot? Do you have a drone following the car? Great stuff.

[@achaz_]

Hey ! Really love your videos, it's extremely impressive to see how far Tesla got into fsd ! But, as a french, this shows how NOT ready AT ALL this is for europe... The most difficult streets to manage that you show in any of your videos are nothing compared to normal roads in france... Especially in Switzerland ! And knowing that in France, there is as much roundabouts than crossing roads intersections... I would never use that, even if Tesla already makes us pay 7500€ for that option... To illustrate that, my neighbour has an S Plaid and always had the newest Model S, very nice. But the problem is that he has to make a five point maneuver to turn from the main road into our street... That's why even a Model 3 is too big of a car for a lot of European people...

[@tech-utuber2219]

You reminded me of walking through the streets of Lausanne, which, as you know, is a fully mature example of cities before automobiles. It will be very challenging. Robust autonomy is many years away but the progress on display here is very impressive. We need to be patient as it will not be as quick as Elon’s multiple, hyperbolic timeline promises.

[@achaz_]

@@tech-utuber2219 Oh yeah I know Lausanne very well ! My mother did her studies there ! I'm glad to see that some people don't get the wrong opinion about this technology, it's very advanced, but years away of being perfectly natural and secure, even on these large streets of the USA ! I was talking with a friend that though that this was very scary and super dangerous, he was like "but if the car does something dangerous, you're basically ded right ?" So I showed him this video, and now, he loves it !

[@tech-utuber2219]

@@achaz_ Yes, the Rue de Bourg, Ouchy… I used to go there often to visit a friend. Long time ago. There is tremendous promise ahead in this technology, but we have to be patient instead of delusional. It will take some time before there is a Robo-taxi fleet, but I think that release 12 will have a lot of utility even if it is not level 5 at first.

[@waltertoki1]

I was impressed with how the FSD worked in the Berkeley hills around Marin Ave in between Grizzley Peak and the Fountain at the Circle. I lived in El Cerrito and would drive through that area to the UC Berkeley campus. There is little traffic, but the streets are narrow and hilly and they are filled with parked cars. So driving around the on coming traffic is especially difficult. The beta FSD in that area clearly needed driver assisted interventions, but nevertheless, it was amazing to see how well it worked.

[@wreckinball11]

I live in the country and deer that cross the road are displayed as large dogs. Deer out of the path do not show on the display.

[@EarlCo]

This is exactly what I experienced! As a software developer, I suppose it can be quite common to move fast and push updates that break things and introduce bugs instead, but as a car company Tesla should really be more careful.

[@swait239]

What is the white line is wheel for? Safety? You look at this as a gauge?

[@djbrown79]

This is actually the first time your drive resembles what mine have always looked like.

[@OllieFallon10]

I always find how America does roundabouts weird, since in Australia, you turn on your indicator on relative to the way you're going, so: If you're going left you turn on your left indicator, etc. Once you get to your exit, you turn on your left indicator (because of left-hand drive) and leave the roundabout, because this shows to the people who are yielding to people that you're getting off and that they can go.

[@nickfosterxx]

seconded. UK roundabouts are a seamless beautiful ballet.

[@Dave-ei7kk]

I agree with your comment about inconsistencies in the aggressiveness/timidity character of this version. I just got back home after two intervention and disengagement free drives that were reasonably complex. Beta even let me engage while still in my long driveway which is a first. But what stood out to me was how timid it is while merging onto a city street, waiting way longer than necessary. And then after waiting when it didn’t need to, it charges out into traffic at the last possible comfortable moment crossing oncoming traffic when it could have crossed earlier while that traffic was a more comfortable distance away. But, still, it would have gotten me to my destination and home safely had I been napping the whole time. So progress is clearly being made.

[@guffi00]

I really like you "summary screen" in the end, minus weird shadows on white boxes tho it would be cool if you do something like history comparison of versions on same rout going forward, that would be very cool to see!

[@aa72on]

It's so wild how it affects different people differently. I have to assume its everything to do with where you are driving and how FSD kinda takes a 1 size fits all approach to autonomy. 4.4 has been such a fix for me. So many of my issues went away at least driving around Encino / Burbank / Freeways

[@OverlordActual]

Might explain why I got put on 11.4.2 instead of 11.4.3 or even 11.4.4 since it was apparently rolling out to a small group. Still having issues with the car wanting to change into turn lanes instead of continuing straight in our lane. This was introduced in version 11 for me and has made drives much less enjoyable when I just need the car to stay in the lane.

[@Plexipal]

The home of the best FSD videos is back

[@oceso]

i dislike how you disregard the egregious behaviour in roundabouts. it always uses turning signals wrong and has no lane discipline at all. it would be thrown out of the vehicle on a driver's license test in any european country for how it drove through the roundabout at 9:10

[@vicneo1]

Your inconsistency comments- ring a bell as well. And my guess is the diagnosis is the same. My Chat GPT experience was that the "hallucinations" often occured when there was conflict between one or more " directives"- one wonders if resolution of seemingly conflicting commands is at fault.

[@IDamian1]

Could you please explain exactly what I am looking at. My best guess is : 1)Below is what you see as the driver of the car on its dashboard. no problem. 2) The car ahead of this daashboard jumps around so much that I can nt believe we are tailing an actual car. So could you please explain why the constant bumping around that we see when we look at the back of this" car" ahead?

[@raamblings]

2016 P100D, also agree on the regressions. late/stuttered braking for signs and lane changing in intersections are still my primary issues with v11

[@TenchiFox]

21:00 I think FSD was confused by the stop sign on your right facing in the other direction. While it didn't show on the display, it did stop pretty much right in range of it, so it may have recognized the shape of the sign and the roughly-correct placement for a sign it should obey.

[@sccjacob]

great video -- fsd takes a step back but it makes for great content. that family of deer just walking on the sidewalk like people was crazy

[@ghauptli1]

Nice video! 11.4.4 in my 2021 model Y does better on the freeway, especially with driving ahead to find a wide enough space before merging into a slower lane. Decisions on the side streets, while not as challenging as your drive, seem to be a bit faster which is a good thing most of the time. However, the trouble spots on my commute still show inconsistent behavior. We need to be extra careful as FSD becomes more confident.

[@brandonl9286]

Enjoyed seeing FSD in action. Also I have experienced FSD on a Model 3, it hesitated on the roundabout just like in this video. We got honked at, but my response “the person honking only wishes their car could drive on its own.”

[@raz318]

I appreciate this channel! Finally pointing out the myriad of issues that still plague FSD. Too many channels seemingly find nothing wrong with how it operates, and if you say there are issues then you become a Tesla hater. I love my 3 and X but the only way it’ll improve is being honest about the issues. Thank you for your honesty!

[@rickkay9548]

it seems like the steps backward have to do with distillation of various model layers that did well before to fit larger models or networks that need more room for honing before they get optimized. This will eventually get better.

[@STEVEF777]

For me, all 11.4 versions have been a regression from 11.3.6. It has reverted back to drifting into the oncoming lane on my unmarked road and has resumed phantom braking on the same road. That was a problem with 10.69 but fixed with 11.3.

[@formytots0128]

Thanks AIDRVR for testing V11.4.4. It confirms that some regressions have occurred when upgrading from V11.4.2. Cybrlyft can correlate the poor performance as well so far during his early tests.

[@Franklinsone]

Not isolated to your car. Mine is so bad that both myself and my wife turned off FSD in our cars and went back to good old EAP (with NoAP Off).

[@jamaicantesladriver]

Well two things you bring up that are situations that I'm also going through. I have a model 3 with FSD beta which I've had for 4 years now or more maybe and this 4.4 update has been a real big regression for me. Just like you said in your videos it can't do things that it used to do well. And I did get new map data. So my apartment building which didn't exist on a previous map is now visible and has the parking roads in it, but I guess it's not used to the map data or something about it because it is not doing a good job recognizing a lot of things. The second thing you mentioned was that your data connectivity has been having issues and I've been having that issue but I didn't even think that it related to the FSD beta until you mentioned it. I don't really want to reset everything or pay to have it reset at this point, so unless you know a way to do it myself, I'm just going to ride it out and see if it fixes itself with an update.

[@Rocco_Speranza]

Your data connectivity issues 100% have to do with being an early beta tester. I and all the other snapshot button testers have the same issue. We've also confirmed independently turning off beta stops the issue. If the trade off is getting Tesla our data sooner to correct the issues we are seeing quicker, I'll take it.

[@n3wSong54]

I haven't seen any speed bump navigation attempts in a few months. Are the last few versions getting any better at slowing down?

[@hwillia204]

Yes I get the turn signal for left and right turns in certain situations and beta 11.4.4 does make the corrections although I am driving straight per my navigation for home. Awesome on the highways Hands down!

[@davidlebel9687]

I don’t know how you can say that each version gets better. Every version my FSD gets worse more ghost breaking than before more incorrect turning lanes than ever before. My blinker turns on quite frequently for no reason on straight roads. Each update it all in does worse.

[@kylecoolky1189]

Regarding your connectivity issues, Dirty Tesla has the exact same issue. It also constantly says “routing without traffic data” and takes forever to route and reroute (which has actually messed beta up quite a few times with it finally routing after it’s already missed the turn). I’d ask him for help. He’s taking it in soon (or maybe just did I’m not sure) for a hardware fix to see if that solves it.

[@TimothyArmstrongamblixVR]

How do you place the FSD display on your videos? Looks great!

[@RubenKelevra]

That's not the "take over immediately" chime but a general warning chime to get your attention for a serious issue. Whats actually happening here is that the forward collision warning is completely separate from FSDs decisions. So regardless if you or FSD is driving, the safety system would warn you that it may become a dangerous situation. You can lower the warning threshold, if you feel annoyed by it in your FSD profile.

[@vitormoreno1244]

On the Prius, did it detected the hazard lights or it detects as a left sign?

[@cybrrrrrrrr]

My legacy X with FSD beta also does struggle with voice commands and music streaming. Not sure what’s up. Also I agree on the regression. I have much more take overs, especially for lane switches into a turning lane when going straight.

[@footsy420]

I drive for a living in a national park in the canadian rockies. Im curious to see if there is any development for driving when road edges are hard to see and lines are covered. there could be advantages with sensors but processing the information would be a whole new ballgame.

[@EpicBenjo]

I wonder why this version suddenly had a big regression. Usually when something like this happens, Elon mentions something about it. The only thing he’s said was Version 12 will no longer be Beta. 🤔

[@raphaelmahumane1648]

If I may ask, does the vehicle remembers frequently used routes, does it keep history data to improve its manuva on its next trip to the same place? I know this might be somewhat imposible or difficult question to ask..... @AI DRIVR

[@vling4312]

Nice video, as always. As you said, credit to Tesla for somewhat being able to navigate these difficult roads, but there is a long way to go to fully autonomous robotaxis. Really gives you an appreciation of how difficult the problem is. It's not just recognizing the features of the environment, but also understanding the intent of the other people on the road. As a motorcycle rider, I have learned to not just look at the other cars, but to check to see if the driver is looking at me to anticipate their actions. Even in a car, I check to see if other drivers are head down looking at their phones instead of paying attention to the road and this informs my decision making. It feels like this level of awareness is not even under consideration yet, which to me, means that human-like full autonomy is years away.

[@sudeeptaghosh]

We can’t comprehend Exponential progression ..

[@vling4312]

@@sudeeptaghosh I believe the growth will be more like an S curve and perhaps requiring further step changes in architecture.

[@a_kazakis]

@@sudeeptaghosh First of all, we CAN comprehend exponential progression, this is just not exponential. As the previous comment said, self driving will almost certainly follow an S curve, being extremely difficult to improve past a certain point. The reason for that is that you cannot fully automate the AI learning experience. You need real life scenarios and data to train it, which limits the progress. Also I would imagine that all these scenarios have to be manually reviewed by a human to make sure the AI passes the test, since driving is never 100% black/white, there are always grey area decisions you have to make in a case to case basis.

[@sudeeptaghosh]

@@a_kazakis let me prove how we can’t comprehend exponential progression .. what is the minimum and max adoption of computers driving the car ? 0 to 100% this will be S curve What is the amount of data needed for the S curve data ? THIS data part is exponential.. from 99% to 100% it will take more data than 0% to 99% and equivalent compute power .. I hope I made sense ..

[@sudeeptaghosh]

Because of in your word those grey area will need lot of lot of data .. and that part of tech will be exponential

[@kyleb8117]

Always love to see your videos. High production quality, great commentary, and routes that seem like they'd actually be a challenge for the AI so we can actually see if it's progressing. Keep up the great work. The motorcycle parked in a weird way and ignoring a truck that's taking a u-turn were really disappointing ones to see. It's really interesting to think about how an AI considers scenarios that'd be a no-brainer to us. Also would be really interesting if they had a way to read the signs. You could maybe have it with a database of every sign they can find and have it compare to the database, but it'd be really cool if it could read text because that'd cover hand-written signs or digital signs as well.

[@keco185]

The turn signals have gotten so incredibly bad. It's actually impressive how bad they've gotten since the early FSD betas.

[@5pm62]

what model tesla is this? tires type? u should include links to your default description

[@jakubsuchybio]

Btw some of those turn signals seems to be going on only on the intersection turns, that is actually correct behaviour (at least in europe), every time you are not going straight through the intersection, then you have to signal.

[@DerKatzeSonne]

Hey, it's not a "take over immediately" chime, it's the AEB (automatic emergency braking) early collision warning chime.

[@Ellipsis780]

A wild guess at the connectivity issues is a new power save setting when FSD is enabled. Check for any settings for wireless radio power. Wireless radio covers a lot of ground like wifi, bluetooth, phone, etc. It's like on a cell phone when the battery is low it reduces the power to the wireless and wifi signals. Suddenly network connections start failing. It's a pet peeve of mine. I turn off the power save setting because I'd rather have the network connections for short remaining battery life than a long remaining battery life for a phone I can't use.

[@TheUbeIceCream]

i live in the east bay and i just couldn't help but notice that famous roundabout. Love the videos!

[@nrg4285]

Love the new summary stats/graphics at the end!

[@rich1383yt]

Chris from Dirty Tesla has had lots of connectivity issues (long drive route load times, e.g.). He finally persuaded Tesla to address the issue and they replaced his data communications board/module and all those issues went away (in a YT post within the past week).

[@tech-utuber2219]

Have you experienced any sudden braking in this version?

[@paracosmftw]

Its not just your car! Mine did weird stuff too like turning into a lane that already had a car in it, stopping on train tracks, swerving in its lane, and turning into oncoming traffic. It felt as if beta got worse this update.

[@sunydayz]

Totally agree. I'm in the DC metro area and construction recognition would be welcomed, even for basic tesla navigation!

[@chrvids5846]

Regarding the pickup making a u turn......so it was basically going rt to left and you continued turning left into the side of it. I find that 11.4.4 always has a problem when i am stopped to turn left and a car comes from the right and turns left, thus cutting off my left hand turn and my car always starts moving too soon and turns left directly toward the driver door of the car turning left.,,,,disengage. Always. Thanks for the great drive and commentary.

[@FlorentHenry]

Would be fun to have Tesla provide the total number of disengagement and the proportion that is in the training set

[@RayNLA]

I just recently stopped using FSD in my 2019 M3. I got tired of babysitting it after it started to be a bit erratic. Basic Autopilot works great though!

[@quickpstuts412]

Same.

[@thijsvandercaaij5968]

Ah great, new AI DRVR content! :) Was already wondering for a while if you were still making videos or if something happened to you. Hope you're doing good either way!

[@memememine1]

I really miss the radar based eap. The visuon system is absolute trash. I will sit there on the highway with the max speed set to 85. Fsd will drive 65-72 mph while the car infront of me pulls away and not react. I have to press the throttle manually and when i let go it slows down again even if there is nobody infront for hundreds of feet. Its is actually competley useless for actual driving.

[@lazerusmfh]

I like my teslas but… My area is horrible it drives me crazy to use autopilot now, I can’t even put in a destination… constant lane changes, changing lanes in an intersection, misses the left hand turn into my neighborhood 100% of the time but tries to kill you drives all over the two lane unmarked roads, favors the left side of the road on 2 lane roads…. Won’t stay in the HOV lane… constantly changes lanes on the freeway… Brakes too hard, follows too close, misses stop signs and SLAMS on the brakes.. Ugh

[@KirinRise]

great video... I wonder if map data is really playing a handicap with FSD now.. and how can they improve that

[@blocbonbon]

With normal autopilot here in Europe with autosteer on, there's this issue when lanes merge and if road markings are missing, the car goes into the midde of the two lanes that become one. Does FSD Beta also do this?

[@edwardwillett9015]

I have a 2021 MY and I too have noticed a regression. Tons of phantom braking even on the freeway. It feels like it sees things that aren’t there.

[@sbiefeni1]

I wonder if after doing the system reset, if you should also do the camera calibration? It seems to be acting like it forgot it's glasses or something! haha you could name your car Mr. Magoo..

[@aXimo]

I've just bought the PIA via your special link. Hope this helps you grow, thank you for creating interesting content!

[@BoycottHollywood]

I too have seen improvements and regressions. As for maps I haven’t noticed anything. My Tesla has always been unable to navigate my neighborhood. It first tries to ram the gate and then drives down the center of an unmarked two-way street.

[@BrianAnother]

Last weekend I test drove a Model Y for 20 minutes in San Jose with FSD turned on. I had to intervene twice to get out of unsafe situations including one time I felt FSD was going to just run into the side of a car making a right turn. This was with just basic suburban/highway driving and not city conditions. I currently have openpilot in my Honda CR-V, but I'm frustrated with the torque limits. I'm debating either getting a Model Y, or a new car that better supports OpenPilot. I'd be happy if FSD works well on highways and the nags aren't too annoying, but I'm not sure. I wish it was hands off like Openpilot.