Tesla FSD Update 12.5.6.1 is Great, But...

[@jessestone117]

Just wanted to say that I still really appreciate that you no longer put the little preview clips in the very beginning of the video. I always found myself skipping past those to avoid spoilers. Thanks again!

[@lawsnewton]

They really need to nail down reading School zone signs.

[@jasonberger3227]

They need to train it to not only read school zone signs, but also recognize when it is actually a school zone vs the regular speed. This may be one of the hardest Use Cases to solve IMO. It needs to associate the flashing Yellow indicator (when there is one) and the school zone speed. Or they will need to train it to always obey the school zone speed, which would be really annoying on a weekend or in the evening. Again, this is a really tough Use Case to solve.

[@weich1q2w]

@@jasonberger3227School zones are usually only active when kids are present. So it should follow the speed rules but gauge if kids are in the school zone just before it gets there

[@jasonberger3227]

@@weich1q2w Not here in GA. School zones are active during certain times, regardless if any people/kids are walking on the street at that time. I know in other states it is different.

[@ToledoTerps]

I’m surprised it took longer for school zones than speed bumps. Aren’t they all registered on map data? If Tesla had the argument that enforcements are irregulars and unposted, lobby for the requirement of publishing those times. After all, not all zones have the flashing lights.

[@ryanwelsch9384]

@@jasonberger3227 Same here on Long Island.

[@philwelling7172]

Chris, love your videos and my brain is slowly being trained on the streets of downtown Ann Arbor

[@Drewpost19]

Get mine on Saturday. Can’t wait to never have to drive again.

[@jasonberger3227]

It is awesome, but don’t get too far ahead of yourself. Though I guess my definition of driving has changed. Is it considered driving if you literally only have to interact with the car for a matter of seconds per trip? A Turn signal here or there to choose a lane. Maybe taking over for the last 0.1 miles since FSD sometimes pulls into a parking lot, but doesn’t park itself.

[@thefittestdoc]

Keep crushing it, Chris! I am learning from you as a (new) content creator 🎉

[@SterlingSansing]

While in autonomous mode the cars should have an led bar above the top of the window that lights up yellow in the direction of a pedestrian at a crosswalk. Pedestrians are mostly unpredictable however if the pedestrian can see that the Tesla sees them, then the pedestrian can be decisive in crossing. The FSD would then have faster and more accurate response times around pedestrian crossings.

[@sean_haz]

Just flash the headlights instead, it's a common way of communicating used by people already.

[@spchang2000]

I would have let FSD take care it instead of disengagement as long as no safety issue.

[@lancejones4636]

yep, me too

[@bobbyvetter2514]

Agree!

[@wesleyhale4472]

FSD needs a big eyeball that opens up and looks at people it is planning to yield to 😂

[@gregm1855]

Hoping they get this out to the fleet soon. Noticed they sent out an extremely small wave (more like a drop). I need that Highway stack haha

[@user-md2hw9kb2w]

FSD made the right decision to pas the red car parked in the midle of the road talking to someone.

[@Mrbfgray]

Agree tho I would have likely disengaged too not realizing what it was stopped for.

[@carlagat1075]

Chris was changing the destination and didn't see how long that car was stopped before he got there. I would gone around that car.

[@ryanwelsch9384]

At that time the person in the red car was not stopped to talk to someone. They were waiting for the black car in front of them to park. When the red car was passing the black car, that is when the red car briefly stopped to talk to the person that just parked. FSD should not have tried to go around when it did.

[@jamesg2382]

On the ‘pass or not to pass’. My take was that you were probably right to stop the pass, you could never anticipate a conversation or curse after that between the cars. Thanks for the video

[@SmoothSkySailin]

Great video and I'm excited to try this new update. I have 2024 MYLR (hw4) and my issues are rarely in congested areas.. Its the more open areas, similar to the end of this video, where the 12.5.4.1 version slams on brakes, veers for no reason and always gets in the wrong lane.

[@ProXcaliber]

I had a really weird incident myself today with FSD (12.5.4.1). I was on the highway and the off-ramp I needed to take was coming up, but there was a line of cars coming up and no one would open up a space to let us in. FSD had its turn signal on for a little over a quarter of a mile, but still no one would budge. Once it got within about 0.3 to 0.2 of a mile from the off-ramp, it pulled an extremely hard right into the lane it needed to be in, almost going into the side barrier on the highway. It was very scary and completely unexpected, but luckily I was able to take control and put it back in the lane before turning FSD back on after the exit. I honestly don't know what caused it to do that, since up to that point I've never had it react so strangely. The weather was clear, but it was early morning and the highway I was on is very well lit, if that matters.

[@johnnybravo964]

Seeing how FSD (Supervised) performs in different conditions like rain would be interesting. From your channel it seems the last time you tested it in rain was 3 years ago with version 10.

[@FriedChairs]

Probably because it makes the same decisions whether it’s raining or not so you are basically testing at what point does it break down and stop working. To your point though there are definitely environmental conditions where it will not work so it would be nice to know how Tesla plans to handle that in a car with no manual takeover.

[@DurandsDesigns]

@@FriedChairs My guess is it would pull over and put on it's four ways as soon as possible. Pretty much the same as a human would do if the weather was so bad you can't see. At that point it would contact Tesla for intervention I would think. The same as Waymo does. I would think that in the future it could read the weather radar data and maybe not take a drive if really bad weather was ahead. Or be linked to other cars ahead who have experienced extreme weather conditions and pull over and park until the weather has cleared.

[@johnnybravo964]

@@FriedChairsyeah it would be interesting to see how often disengagements and interventions are needed. Also, how bad of weather it can handle as in how much rain, fog, etc. it can handle.

[@FriedChairs]

@@DurandsDesigns It doesn’t do that yet. It’ll just at some point tell you to take over immediately. What it needs to do is slow down and put on hazards and even pull over and stop.

[@trent_carter]

Thank you. Even though I have FSD on 2 Teslas and drive them often I don’t tire of your content.

[@SirHargreeves]

Sorry Trent, but I don’t understand your comment.

[@chubstheclown]

"vegan's"?

[@MikeRadioNY]

A lot of vegans use FSD also😮

[@jasonberger3227]

Same here. He gives a preview of what we can expect in the next couple weeks. I always appreciate the sneak preview. Also with the 12.4 branch, it was interesting to see what never went to the full fleet. Yes, I am a Tesla geek.

[@TeslaMatt650]

Looks to be only going out to HW4 vehicles currently. Hopefully us in the HW3 crowd will get some love soon!

[@David_L3]

Waiting for V3

[@ryanwelsch9384]

I have FSD V12.5.4.1 in a HW3 MY.

[@ryuhayabusa3540]

I just picked up my 2024 m3, and it only has fsd 12.3.6. How do get 12.5.X ?​@ryanwelsch9384

[@jjamespacbell]

My biggest complaint with FSD is it gets the speed limits wrong. What is weird on my residential street which is 25 MPH is the speed the navigation system displays depends on the direction I enter the street. It will choose 25, 30 or 45 mph. My street changes to 45 MPH at the junction but car always does 25. I love FSD and in my experience it is very save so please Team Tesla get the speed limits correct.

[@ryanwelsch9384]

For me here on Long Island, I would say that most of the time it reads the speed limit correctly. However, sometimes it still seems to be reading the route number signs as the speed limit and on 25A between Smithtown and Port Jefferson going east, it will sometimes hold the registered speed limit at 40 mph even though the car reads the 45mph and 35 mph signs on that stretch of road.

[@Tresla]

I can't wait for this to arrive in the UK. I'm dying to test it out!

[@MichaelMuni]

nice to see the changing leaves , we dont get that in FL. Hopefully this rolls out to us this weekend.

[@johny1220]

1:00 having a bar like that (and a recommended option) is definitely nice to have! Can’t wait for this to hopefully go wide this weekend man. 😄🥳

[@ukstudent1]

Did you know? Britain made a new law where self driving cars are legal from 2026, but guess what, US already has self driving, everywhere, especially in Teslas.

[@henrik7777]

This new version of FSD 12.56 looks super impressive! The improvements in speed control and how smoothly it handles various situations, especially with pedestrians, are great to see. The ability to adjust speed with the scroll wheel is a nice touch, though I still wish it could stick closer to the speed limits in some areas. It’s also a bit frustrating when outdated map data causes issues, but overall, this is a huge step forward. Looking forward to more updates!

[@ryry17354]

I am on FSD 12.5.4.1 (HW3) and getting a lot of phantom breaking on this version . It's also still having trouble figuring out what lane it needs to be in near intersections. Other then that, still drives great and I can see improvement. Looking forward to getting the highway stack. Hopefully, HW3 doesn't have to wait too long.

[@phxazcraig]

I probably would have disengaged too, and then had second thoughts. I think it would have been fine in retrospect.

[@lancejones4636]

I'm with you on that.

[@selbyjohnson5986]

Being able to lower the max speed while it’s driving is great. Hopefully I get this update soon.

[@777Outrigger]

I have 12.5.4.1 on my Model Y with Hardware 3 and I'm not impressed. My wife's Model Y is Hardware 4 but she doesn't want FSD, but Tesla just gave her a free FSD upgrade for 2 months. I just drove her car and 12.5.4.1 is far far more impressive on Hardware 4. No interventions on her car today.

[@selbyjohnson5986]

Yeah my hardware 3 Model Y fsd is way worse than the Cybertruck fsd. Seems like hardware 3 is done.

[@Michael-ul7kv]

love that grey area disengagement for passing the stopped car. as a supervisor it was the right decision in that moment. but it wouldn't have been terrible had it gone around.

[@alphadelta87]

14:04 the same reaction I had in my head LOL I love seeing this kind of stuff cause it's what I would do. Currently on 12.5.4.1 in my 2018 M3P and I just want the speed choice in traffic flow to improve.. like you said, going 15 under in a 55 is not ok especially during rush hour traffic.. otherwise I love using FSD.

[@jamess6304]

Drove 19 miles today on previous version 0 interventions can’t wait for this new version

[@edwcory]

I’ve been using ASS a bit more, my heart skipped a beat or four as it started going one way in a parking lot before doing a five point turn to go the correct direction. It made it without issue, just took far too long. Even parked fully in a parking spot when complete.

[@jasonberger3227]

At around 10:05, why does FSD have the Right Turn Signal on, even though it goes straight through the intersection?

[@troydelgado1271]

This is a bug. FSD failed to cancel right-turn signal after Navigation reroute. 10:05 FSD starts signaling right to turn right on Maynard St to go to HopCat waypoint. 10:06 Supervisor deletes HopCat waypoint and Navigation planner reroutes to go straight instead of making a right. FSD does not turn off right-turn signal blinker.

[@KforKaspur]

I'm also from Ann Arbor and have been driving on the same roads but with a HW3 2022 Model 3 and I've had nearly the opposite experience, on a right on red it jerked the wheel violently when it had the right of way and the oncoming cars had a red and it told me to take over immediately when my yellow caution left signal light had too much traffic for the oncoming cars to continue driving and left the intersection gap open for people turning (Me)

[@b4804514]

I have both HW3 and HW4 cars. FSD is very different. The HW3 car seems like an older version of HW4. I hope we get to a point where they are both the same. I trust my HW4 car almost 100% the HW3 85%

[@chubstheclown]

I don't think 12.5.6.1 is available for HW3 yet, is it?

[@kkulkulkan5472]

I would have disengaged too. It isn’t obvious why the car was stopped, so would have waited. FSD knew it was safe to go around and no traffic ahead, so this would be a courtesy type intervention/disengagement rather than safety one.

[@Outrunner85]

I'm excited for 12.5.6.x on CT. Speed profiles seem very good. I'm hoping we can very soon get software release consistent between all AI4 vehicles. This release leapfrogging can be frustrating for folks that only have one Tesla vehicle.

[@tmo9466]

The pass situation at around 16:00 can be summed up like this: You shouldn't pass there, but you could.

[@tmo9466]

imo should count the disengagement because FSD can't reverse and that situation could get sticky and require backing up

[@18837dc]

The other side of that argument is that other driver should have not stopped there, but they did.

[@GregOverland]

You were correct, fsds was putting you in a potential unsafe condition

[@Rcm23195]

For the disengagement, in hindsight it was correct to pass, but based on what your in car camera saw, I would not have passed there, so I think it should stay. If the majority disagrees however, I don't think it's unreasonable, it's almost a coin toss. Also in terms of "I had a really great experience and it sucks to hear people have a bad experience", my hardware 3 model 3 on 12.5.4.1 has behaved poorly compared to older versions, and someone else I know with a hardware 4 model 3 has nothing but good things to say, so it might come down to that.

[@davidgrant5066]

I would have gone round the stopped car, can see why FSD was going too.

[@ryanwelsch9384]

That would have been an illegal move.

[@kevinjourneau8645]

I have been using fsd for a week. Finding that I have mini phantom and slowing down for no reason. Big issues with construction sites. Will keep on using it

[@floxer]

Hey could you make a video where you don't set a navigation and just try to guide the car by putting on the turn signals 😁

[@bobmarley8270]

Hey Chris, First off. I enjoy your videos and I am hoping you can help. I have seen on X where people have asked Elon to add an "Avoid Highways and Interstates" toggle on the Navigation tab, and I have even seen Elon respond with "Sure". I would like to see toggle to optimize navigation for efficiency and maybe a scenic route mode (for those who just want to go for a drive. If you have a way to help get any of these things added, it would be very much appreciated. :D Cheers!

[@itsmorepaul]

Curious why FSD enables the right turn signal at 10:03 and keeps it on even through an intersection until it makes a LEFT turn?

[@jasonberger3227]

I had the same thought. I love trying to second guess why FSD does what it does.

[@rigeborod]

IMHO It would be ok if it could reverse back in case it was a wrong decision. But as we know, planner knows how to reverse, so it is not the one to blame here. :)

[@SneakerJeezus]

When he said “send it out!”

[@JayGroh]

The big problems I have with 12.5.4.1 HW3 is 1. Speed! Goes too slow and will refuse to get up to the speed limit even if I force it it will slow back down. 2. Famtom speed limits. It will not see the drop in speed from 70MPH to 55MPH. It will think the speed is 50-55-50 all within 200 feet. No signs in that area other than 50MPH before and one after it does that. Sometimes it will think the speed on the highway is 5MPH. There are many different spots that I drive that it does stuff like that. 3. There are 90 degree bends in the road that it thinks it needs to use a turn signal on. Its not turning onto another road and its the only way to go. 4. With this version it has slammed on the brakes at some green lights and a few times at caution lights. 5. It does not know what lane to get into when there is a straight lane and a turn lane. Sometimes It can make the decition but its usually too late to get into the correct lane. 6. Sometimes it refuses to use a turn signal to merge onto the highway. 7. It will get into the left lane for NO reason even when set to minimal lane change. When its in the left lane it will camp there and wont move to the right. Sometimes when its in the left lane I will use my turn signal to move to the right and it will refuse the request. Since there is no report button I've been forcing disengaging every time it does these things and report it that way. Other than that as far as driving and navigation its pretty ok. Still not going to pay for the subscription until v13 is released then I will give it another try.

[@TheGOF]

My exact experience with 12.5.4.1 I paid for version 11.x last fall and had the previous free month with several versions thru 12.3.6 12.5.4.1 is awful. Stops abruptly for flashing yellow lights. Stopped for 5 cross walks in a row with no pedestrians in sight. This was on a busy 4 lane divided road. Truly unsafe. Even EAP phantom brakes, and stops for flashing yellow lights. Since regular Autopilot is unavailable once you have FSD, my car is now less capable than before the “upgrade”. Can’t remove the free trial either. 12.5.4.1 has really put me me off FSD. 22MY, hardware 3.

[@JayGroh]

@@TheGOF I know. Auto pilot has its faults but it does a very decent job of just driving. A lot less stressful as you dont have to babysit it as much. As a side note I got an email from Telsa saying they are extending my free FSD until November 24th. Got the email within a half hour of posting my comment above which was a little weird. I guess I'll just continue disengaging and reporting issues.

[@ryanwelsch9384]

I also have I have with 12.5.4.1 HW3 1. I have experienced this too. 2. I see for the most part it reads the correct speed limit. However, sometimes it reads the numbers on non-speed limit signs as the speed limit. This may be the case when it thought the speed limit was 5 mph for you. For me on Route 110 it thought the speed limit was 10 mph when it was 55. 3. I have experienced this too. I do not see it as an issue. Humans sometimes make this mistake. 4. I have not experienced this. 5. I have experienced this a few times too. 6. I have experienced this too. 7. I have not experienced this.

[@mikoske]

Great drive overall! Couple things that I noticed... I would have been shitting my pants at 12:15, or more like honking hard, that car looked like it was coming right at you! Also there was some weird turn signal behavior at some point, car was blinking right in a decently long straight before turning the left signal for left turn. Starting at 10:05, but looks like it was because of rerouting. Still had a turn signal through an intersection.

[@bergonius]

Please don't honk in the city unless it's to prevent an accident.

[@FSDwithme]

Thx for the video. 12.5.4.1 has been pretty solid for me, I look forward to testing this one out as well! (still needs to fix auto speed offset)

[@homosapien6031]

I’d have waited for a bit, not passed, but I’m a 24 y/o non-pro driver so not sure if that’s the right call 🤷‍♂️ But either way, thanks for the vid, love your content!

[@deandawiz]

V13 is gonna be sweeet

[@jurivibe]

I just hope I get to experience this before my FSD trial is up. But I am driving AI3 M3 so I don’t know.

[@Tobykody]

This past week ive had 2 or 3 take over immediately from fsd out of my 8 months of using. Is it more sensitive now? Ive also noticed some more mistakes this past week

[@Joe_Brig]

15:03, the deleted radar might have caught this.

[@Mrbfgray]

11:15 that's *awareness!* Dang...person looking in your direction indicating intent to cross, had he been looking at phone or diff direction it'd have been different interpretation. 15:30 I would have disengaged too but then it proved it WAS doing the correct thing. (vote no disengagement tallied)

[@mikeyc8139]

Yeah we are clearly not at the point of "almost all human input is considered error". If that were true, they are training on nearly 100% errors since they train on human input. And yes, going 45 MPH in a known 60 MPH zone creates a dangerous situation. Speed limit MUST be a considered parameter. Period.

[@rockafeller94]

Hey Chris, didn’t you say at the We robot event you spoke to someone that said they were aware of the speed degradation issue? From all the interactions on X I’m seeing with the Tesla team, I’m still not convinced they know what roads we’re talking about where this happens at 🤦🏻 never in any circumstance should the car be driving below the speed limit to that degree. As soon as it gets up to around 50 or 55 mph and it’s a non-interstate/highway road you can bank on constantly having to press the accelerator which has gotten super annoying.

[@Granddude1060]

Great video. Really appreciate your calm commentary. I assume your car is HW4 and on assertive or Hurry?

[@ZEVAGLOBAL]

Great vid!

[@thesoundsmith]

Tesla's MAJOR mistake for FSD was removing the radar/lidar sensors. In rain or fog, these would make ALL the difference, being able to do what vision cannot. And even the finest cameras are not as sensitive in low light as the human eye, so Elon has pretty much guaranteed that _his_ FSD will never out-perform a human.

[@foshizzlemanizzle4753]

It depends on the camera. There most definitely are cameras that have better low light vision and just better vision in general than any human. Also lidar is susceptible to weather effects like rain and fog. I think having a relatively simple radar system to avoid large objects in heavy rain/snow/fog/smoke and help with proximity detection while focusing on making the best performing vision system is the safest and most effective method.

[@MikeRadioNY]

Not true this works perfectly. You do not need lidar or radar and this has been proven by how FSD operates.

[@xavierStark84]

LiDAR and radar at faulty on bad situations and weather. Vision makes everything more smooth and natural.

[@ryanwelsch9384]

@thesoundsmith how long have you be designing and testing autonomous vehicles?

[@jasonk125]

So it's amazing, except disengagement after 3 miles. 3 miles! That ain't gonna cut it.

[@lancejones4636]

Chris did not have to disengage for safety, Genius. The car had a clear view to go around.

[@tomdy69]

I'm on 12.5.4.1 with a HW3 MY and it's been the biggest regression I've seen in FSD since I started with V11. Which is annoying because 12.5.4 was really good!

[@rmkep]

I'm also on that version but in a HW3 2018 Model X with no interior camera. I'm thinking that may exclude me from anything nag free but time will tell. I have limited experience with 12.5.4.1 but it seems comparable to the prior version. I believe there are still many edge cases for FSD and it will be a long time (if ever) till it reaches Level 4 autonomy.

[@evariste3534]

Yeah, I'm very disappointed with v12.5.4.1. v12.3.6 was awesome and made me really excited for the next update, only for v12.5.4.1 to be a major regression. Phantom breaking all over the place, questionable decisions, and lots of jerky movement. At this point, I'd gladly take v12.5.6.1 (or whatever other version next goes wide and makes it to my 2019 M3) just being as good as v12.3.6 + ASS, vision monitoring, and speed profiles.

[@arthursmith482]

What about: advance green left turns, sign that say reduce speed when flashing, school buses, trying to pass buses that are signalling to re-enter traffic, emergency vehicles, excess passing on multilane streets... I turned my FSD off 12.5.4.1. Will the next update work for me? I dislike how it does not enter the upcoming left turn lane allowing aggressive drivers to block entry into the lane.

[@ryanwelsch9384]

I have that version and my MY always enters the left turn lane correctly. It is strange that you are having a problem.

[@alexjeffs7092]

driving under the speed limit is sometimes not safe but also sometimes it is the safest thing to do , show examples of under speed limit where it's not safe pls

[@alexjeffs7092]

year or two ago when setting speed and fsd did try to go that speed was pretty sketchy tbh i did set it to high a few times and it would definitely be more dangerous to keep that feature built in imo , I just use the accelerator pedal if i want fsd to go faster and at least then its on me if something goes horribly wrong

[@ksampler6183]

WholeMarsCatalog has some examples in his most recent videos. For example, driving 10 under an already too slow speed limit WILL cause an accident. It is not a matter of if, but when. Almost 100% of the time you need to be following traffic, not always speed limit signs. For example, there is a road right outside of my neighborhood, it has a 25 MPH speed limit, FSD LOVES to drive 20 when traffic is going 40. Because that is the speed of the flow of traffic, which is what it should follow.

[@michaeldew7904]

For that questionable disengagement, I'd say the car did the right thing by not passing. The other car should have moved a lot quicker and you would have been in the way. If the other car knew how to drive, it wouldn't have been a problem.

[@hamzanaser5149]

Hi Chris, with your experience, when do you think FSD can actually be unsupervised? I know Elon said next year, but what do you think?

[@b4804514]

The devil is in the details in crowed tight situations. Pulling in and out of a hotel dropoff or parking lot. The airport departures etc. All these areas take a lot of brain power for humans..... how that translates to FSD will be trick of the century.

[@andrewmquintero]

That red CUV was parked for over a minute. I think passing was well warranted.

[@DanFrederiksen]

That was not a fail. But if it was a long line, it might not have been able to tell

[@Da-King-of-Swing]

I just got FSD software update version 12.5.5.2 despite the fact that I never got 12.5.5.1 🤔

[@rog351]

Remove the disengagement as the car could have gone around the stopped one….. in my opinion.

[@JimmyBosse]

RIP Pinball Pete’s

[@ericn3221]

Did you have hardware 3 or 4?

[@MrTechfreak95]

Oh man... i really wish in europe we would get that soon. But i heard that the regulatory will only allow it on highway, city streets seem to be a dream... till 2028 when they may reconsider that... im so sad and angry... i hope that is not the case but it seems like it. :( The regulatory seems to perfectly fit a system from a german car brand... so yeah... we will not see fsd till some europe car brand will have a similar system.

[@dannylemmon7123]

I would count it as a disengagement, I think in that scenario it would have been good to wait a bit longer before going around. Impatient drivers would disagree, but fsd needs to be calm, patient and safe. 16:00

[@The_DuMont_Network]

IMO in downtown areas, going around someone parking or waiting for someone to leacpve so they can park is generally not a good idea. Yes, waiting is a pain but so many things are in play.

[@JamesDarpinian]

Agreed, once they stopped to talk it would be OK to go around but it's not OK while the parking is happening. Maybe the autopilot cameras didn't have any visibility to the parking car?

[@MikeRadioNY]

I would’ve passed that car and I think you should remove the disengagement!

[@sirpanek3263]

If its going to slow then accelerate...like at stop signs when it takes forever.

[@ferzon69]

Are you speeding up the playback of your videos? Because the last week your videos are playing at either 1.25 or 1.50 normal speed at default settings.

[@DirtyTesla]

During the voice over part in the beginning it is sped up, but during the live talking it is not sped up

[@JonathanDrake]

Will be interesting to learn when you have a retirement party from FSD. Have watched since the first video. Wonder what your threshold is or if you are even thinking about what has to happen to not have videos worthwhile. This is not a saying you should retire from YT but what the threshold is for you.

[@The_DuMont_Network]

???

[@paulmeynell8866]

If someone has stopped for a chat or to,wait to see if a parking space comes free , go around them!

[@chrisp1336]

Conflicted.....going around should not have been an issue unless oncoming traffic. Actually should have moved out to verify no oncoming, then should have gone around.

[@The_DuMont_Network]

I'd like to see some of thesameroutes in the dark.

[@James-cq9dp]

i would have gone around the red car. there was no reason for him to be pulled over. I was disappointed when fsd didnt go around him but then when it began to i got excited then you disengaged lmfao

[@youtubesucks8024]

This is why I disagree with having robotaxi in my car. In a robotaxi, just go exactly the speed limit. Presumably I’m in the back seat or watching Netflix. But in my personal vehicle, let’s say I’m driving from LA to LV, I want it to park in the left lane doing 85 for example. Even if they get the software right, I don’t think a lot of people will use it, as most people drive like they have somewhere to be.

[@puddintime8107]

I don’t see the issue with going the speed limit if it’s 100 hands off. Out of sight out of mind and maybe costs you an extra five minutes of travel time. When that happens….tbd. I think Musk is still way overly optimistic Right now it’s pretty great the way it is paying attention but acting as you have two drivers, greatly reducing your likelihood of an accident.

[@mariusmeyer14]

Regards to the intervention a humandriver will have ither passed or honked. Witch is the lesser evil? I'm just flabbergasted that FSD could sum the situation up so fast!. 😮

[@sensei1x]

I still have v12.5.4.1 I’m enjoying the hell out of it But sometimes I get phantom breaking at green lights. And sometimes I get hard breaking when the light goes from green to yellow if the car is close to the light. The previous version didn’t have this problem. Anyone else having these issues.

[@tomewatson]

I have 12.5.4.1 on my 2019 model 3 (hw 3). I’m having a lot of phantom breaking issues. It’s so bad that I’ve been turning it off when there are cars behind me. I did not have this problem with previous versions of v12.

[@DonBurke1]

I think that particular situation was a judgement call, but I do think the prudent thing was to stop or slow and assess. FSD was just gonna go for it. I'd keep the disengagement.

[@bsears693]

does the MY have end-to-end on hwys? I know the cybertruck does but what about the MY?

[@DirtyTesla]

Yes kzbin.info/www/bejne/nWiqhIeme5d5lbM

[@PeterQuistgard]

Your response was correct…I’m surprised the engineer defended the crap speed settings.

[@DaveWarnedYou]

Great video... v12.5 is really progressing nicely!

[@brianbesteee]

How do you leave feedback without disabling FSD?

[@jasonberger3227]

Only OG testers can leave feedback without disengaging. They have a camera icon at the top center of their screen to send feedback that us lowly peons don’t get.

[@briangroene7756]

Interesting at 7:45, fsd rendered that stop sign and made the decision that this sign wasn't for you and ignored it. Very smart 👍

[@edhill8568]

How close is FSD on just controlled access highways to reaching L3?

[@jasonberger3227]

Pretty sure it is a regulatory issue. FSD could technically be L3 everywhere today. L3 is kind of a meaningless designation, which Tesla will skip and go right to L4.

[@edhill8568]

@@jasonberger3227 Technically yes but 2 issues. First, Tesla would have to accept liability for any accidents where FSD is determined to be at fault. Second FSD would have to improve the hand off messaging/alert to it provides the "driver" time to take over. Today FSD doesn't support that. L3 on controlled access highways would make it easier for Tesla to accommodate both. I don't expect Tesla to go to L3 though.

[@Ilovemydean]

Are you on hw3 or hw4?

[@JigglyPuff6287]

what's with the right hand turn signal at 10:35

[@Tobykody]

When does tesla typography update map data. I have new stop lights and businesses in my area that dont show on map. Same with my driveway while the others on my road do. Anyone know about avoid highway feature too?

[@chrisp1336]

mileage is 'as the crow flies?" really? Is the time to destination as the crow flies also? I don't think so. This is the first time I have ever heard that.

[@graysonwagner1855]

Straight line to location, as the crow flies

[@aiden1015]

I don't see this ever happening because it will create too many variables and doesn't fall in the "but one day every car will be autonomous and we won't need need it, even though we're living in today", but as I was letting the car drive I had a thought. I think part of the reason so many people have different experiences with FSD is because not only is the driving style is so different depending on where the car driving, but so is the driver. The Chill/Standard/Hurry is an attempt to fix it, but if all user input is error, what the car should do is learn from how the cars around it are driving, and from the car make the turn the various dials up and down on neural net to match. Similarly, learn from watching when the driver is in control and try to match that style as well. I say this with full awareness of my ignorance to AI training and it might not be possible because how of the training is performed outside of the car with Dojo.

[@brianp8384]

Two things: this kind of technological progress is not linear so it may go from seemingly impossible one day to completely solved the next. Also, while Elon has made numerous optimistic predictions around FSD in the past, this time Tesla is planning to start building 2million cars a year with no controls, starting in 2026 so they must feel like it’ll be ready.

[@TheSpartan3669]

​@@brianp8384Tesla felt that it was ready enough to suppoet 2 million robotaxis in 2020.

[@AntoineThisdale]

Man the transfer from HW4 to 3 is long.

[@jemezname2259]

It doesn’t look like fsd is getting any closer to a real robotaxis

[@lowmax4431]

"FSD is killing everything" 😂

[@lashlarue59]

What bugs me is this totally cavalier attitude towards the speed laws; like it's optional and you can drive however fast you feel like. Now thats not even an individual attitude, it's getting built right into the software to ignore the traffic laws. Does anyone else see anything even a little wrong with this?

[@bergonius]

Yes, it is fundamentally wrong.

[@ryanwelsch9384]

I totally agree. If it is okay to go 40mph in a 30 mph speed limit zone, then the speed limit should be 40 mph. The cops and the people that decide what speed limit signs to put up need to get together on this.

[@mikeyc8139]

Why is the blue "Max" indication intermittent? There seems to be no rhyme or reason as to when it displays (and disappears).

[@lancejones4636]

It shows when you adjust it... and then promptly disappears.

[@kenion2166]

It shows it when you adjust or when the car reached the max set speed

[@DJCryptoStix]

Im still on 12.5.4 how atr you getting them so early this sucks