Tesla Model S Plaid 1000 km challenge

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Bjørn Nyland

Bjørn Nyland

Күн бұрын

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@davidkendall2272
@davidkendall2272 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see the Long range MS 1000 km challenge. I have been blown away with my MSLR efficiency over the past year.
@David_Polak
@David_Polak Жыл бұрын
How much was your consumption on average?
@Justfun-xc9oz
@Justfun-xc9oz Жыл бұрын
My Model 3 LR is broken I think. Only getting 250km out of 85% soc. Really starting to hate my Tesla. All those promises. But degradation is sky high after just 60.000km and 3 years.
@NoMoYOUsernames
@NoMoYOUsernames Жыл бұрын
@@Justfun-xc9oz Well judging from your other short screen-shot video where the app restricts your max charge setting to 64%, I would say there is something wrong with your car. That's probably not degradation you're seeing, it is something else. You should be covered by warranty, why not just make a service appointment?
@lachlanB323
@lachlanB323 8 ай бұрын
@@Justfun-xc9oz That isn't normal. You have an 8 year warranty so use it. Battery issues are extremely rare and discovered in the first couple year of ownership if they do happen fortunately. Do you mean 250 miles maybe?
@lachlanB323
@lachlanB323 8 ай бұрын
@@Justfun-xc9oz 250km of range would be be over 50% degradation. So it will die rapidly now.
@rokibler
@rokibler Жыл бұрын
6:55: "There could be a moose party in front of me!"
@andr3wb3n
@andr3wb3n Жыл бұрын
First time commenting on your video, and have been watching since the Millennium Falcon! I love how you are as enthusiastic as ever. Thank you for all these years of EV content TeslaBjorn :D
@ahsonali9353
@ahsonali9353 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see you back in Norway. Please update the date on your spreadsheet for the test from 18-02-2022 to 18-02-2023 Cheers :)
@ekinorak
@ekinorak Жыл бұрын
The nerd in me loved that the odometer hit 1337km as you reached 1000km.
@slijkhuis
@slijkhuis Жыл бұрын
@21:45, exactly what I instantly saw. 🤓
@plojo
@plojo Жыл бұрын
The edition, render and upload of the final video also was made in PLAID mode. I can't remember a 1,000km challenge video coming online this quick. Thanks
@DavidDji_1989
@DavidDji_1989 Жыл бұрын
Jet lagged Bjorn starting to work at midnight 🤣
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
You must be new in this channel. Jet lag was gone long time ago. I have done hundreds of night runs for one sole reason: Avoid annoying left lane huggers.
@DavidDji_1989
@DavidDji_1989 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland ok 🤣👌
@Zedus-rl9hp
@Zedus-rl9hp Жыл бұрын
That 1000 km performance is really impressive.
@achilles-live
@achilles-live Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah, as expected. We did a 5800km (round trip) through the balkans in our long range, really comfortable and simple. I tell this to people who refuse to believe EVs can be used for trips haha
@TheEdmaster87
@TheEdmaster87 Жыл бұрын
@@achilles-live with this model 2023 s or earlier Like raven?
@degnarius
@degnarius Жыл бұрын
And would have been better with the aero covers on the wheels.
@achilles-live
@achilles-live Жыл бұрын
@@TheEdmaster87 With a 2021 Model 3 long range!
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 Жыл бұрын
@@achilles-live If you can afford it, it's great. But people aren't gonna switch their €5K diesel that has a 1 000 km range on one tank with a €5K EV that has 200 km range
@dylanza
@dylanza Жыл бұрын
6:58 moose party that one got me 😂
@PranavKodali
@PranavKodali Жыл бұрын
Heads up, test date for Model S Plaid should be 2023, not 2022
@gtschallenge
@gtschallenge Жыл бұрын
Thank you Bjørn! This one I really looked forward to! But now even more to the LR in warmer weather - if it goes below 9 hours and beats the fossil reference the universe will break! 😀
@ischju
@ischju Жыл бұрын
I just drove 1300 km with Model 3 and its so smooth and easy. Got a dog. Just plug in, walk a bit and when your back go another 200k.
@mariomotorcyclediaries
@mariomotorcyclediaries Жыл бұрын
Truly remarkable! A winter run that fast..
@wintersun398
@wintersun398 Жыл бұрын
6:18 best reaction ever 😊
@emceh
@emceh Жыл бұрын
Such test in Germany at 140-150 km/h average speed would be awesome 😎
@ischju
@ischju Жыл бұрын
plus the battery would be probably heated up a bit better ;)
@rotpiano
@rotpiano Жыл бұрын
Where do you get 140 - 150 average! Speed in Germany? Okay in case you drive through countless construction zones with full speed😉
@sorinelpustiu5674
@sorinelpustiu5674 Жыл бұрын
Lol that doesnt exist. Constant road work with nobody working....
@Alex-bl8uh
@Alex-bl8uh Жыл бұрын
​@rotpiano yes its really bad nowadays. Every 5 minutes there is another construction zone. Extreme annoying
@Masakrer
@Masakrer Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-bl8uh Well such comments are usually done by people who has never been in Germany and never drove these highways. Constant construction zones, most of the time only 2 lanes etc... but ppls imagination is that there are countless lanes and no-limit zones everywhere so you can carry on with 200 km/h all the time lol
@DeeKay1911
@DeeKay1911 Жыл бұрын
What a car! Love my ‘21 SR+, but thing is next level!
@proomster
@proomster Жыл бұрын
Just noticed the date on your spreadsheet is incorrect for this test, should be 2023 :)
@balazsberczi6611
@balazsberczi6611 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait a test in Germany the LR in spring on summer tires...
@Chris-pd2uv
@Chris-pd2uv Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I m so curios to see the eventually results with the Long Range future test. Great!!!!
@iowa_don
@iowa_don Жыл бұрын
6:09 - Check out the Tesla Plaid Channel. He just uses his Plaid for drag racing. He took out the rear seat and the removable stuff in the trunk. A typical 1/4 mile (0.4 Km) run is 9.2 seconds and 150 MPH (241 KPH) and takes about 3% of the battery or about 3 KW. A 1/8 mile (0.2 Km) run is 6 seconds at 120 MPH (193 KPH) and is 1-2% of the battery. He's only been beaten once by a car that was NOT trailered to the drag strip.
@Muskar2
@Muskar2 Жыл бұрын
kW is a measure of power - like horsepower. kWh is a measure of energy. So you meant 3kWh.
@iowa_don
@iowa_don Жыл бұрын
@@Muskar2 Yeah, you're right. Bjorn had a whole video about that some time ago. Oops.
@Astrophysikus
@Astrophysikus Жыл бұрын
Impressive, especially given the temperature! That said, it fully shows what Bjørn said: at this point, the car is not really the issue any more, as the time is for all intents and purposes the same as with the reference ICE-V. So much for you cannot road trip an EV.
@MrUled
@MrUled Жыл бұрын
Be great to redo this in summer!
@zwanz0r
@zwanz0r Жыл бұрын
The yoke makes all the difference. In my Tesla Model 3, I've never even seen my passport on the dashboard, let alone being able to touch it!
@larryspiller15
@larryspiller15 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for LR summer test
@antti_kukkonen
@antti_kukkonen Жыл бұрын
12:03 what does this mean? In Finland the minimum speed for a fine is 7km/h+3km/h for tolerance=10km/h in 70-120km/h zone
@Dom21221
@Dom21221 Жыл бұрын
Björn activated the plaid mode. Couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw the upload
@kaasman78
@kaasman78 Жыл бұрын
About the chill in the car. I noticed that as well. But I'm driving a Model 3 LR AWD from 2019. What i noticed since the update that introduced the 'low' and higher base setting for the fanspeed (so no more setting number for fan speed), the system uses 'automatic defogging'. Then it directs all air to the front windscreen and not in your face or to your legs. When it's colder outside it stays on that defogging setting longer it seems, giving me very cold legs during a drive. Especially when it's freezing outside. Do more people notice that?
@sj-trekhaak4531
@sj-trekhaak4531 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@VoxelLoop
@VoxelLoop Жыл бұрын
I do notice auto defogging is active for longer! But I can't personally say I've noticed my legs being cold as a result, 2019 Model 3 Performance here. :) Credit where it's due... The auto defogging does a really good job! We take it for granted but when I've been in a car without that feature you absolutely notice the lack of it.
@Timo-qb1gf
@Timo-qb1gf Жыл бұрын
Yes! Didn't connect that with the auto defogging but it would explain it.
@mattaut88
@mattaut88 Жыл бұрын
You can still set fanspeed number when not on "Auto".
@raisethereef
@raisethereef Жыл бұрын
The auto HVAC in Tesla has continually gotten worse over time. They put very little heat on the floor any longer and it’s very annoying. You can clearly tell the engineers do not live or test in a cold climate. I also noticed on my 2019 Model 3 that the auto was basically broken. If I didn’t leave it on HI, it would barely heat the car. Tesla gave me the whole “everything is normal” excuse so I gave up and had to control it manually at all times.
@mistermister2085
@mistermister2085 Жыл бұрын
I had a early 90s f150 and the high beams were on the floor to the left of the brake pedal. I liked it.
@MrAdopado
@MrAdopado Жыл бұрын
High beam foot button was fairly common on old design UK cars in 1950s and 60s.
@BigDudeSuperstar
@BigDudeSuperstar Жыл бұрын
Bjorn for president!!
@FutureSystem738
@FutureSystem738 Жыл бұрын
I drive in straight lines far more than I do roundabouts - and that’s why I love the yoke!
@teslaw-model3
@teslaw-model3 Жыл бұрын
13:48 what's the exact wording? i think i didn't get it quite right for the google research...
@thorbjrnhellehaven5766
@thorbjrnhellehaven5766 Жыл бұрын
The wallet scene reminded me about a stressfull passport episodebI had before checking in at Busan Airport to go home. I couldn't find my passport. I was allowed into an office close to check in. They called the taxi, and my holtel. When they didn't find it, I wanted to prepare for loads of work with my travel agent and the embassy, to get home, with possible delay. But when I opened my laptop, I found my passport on the keyboard. I apologized, then proceded to check in, and got home on schedule.
@rui569
@rui569 Жыл бұрын
New Model S LR will shatter all records for sure.
@phonehoppy
@phonehoppy Жыл бұрын
Auto Highbeam has greatly improved in my 2019 Model 3 with software 2023.2.0.5 and onwards. It was really bad before, but now it's absolutely useful.
@AllCarbone
@AllCarbone Жыл бұрын
Is there a reason why the plaid was without aero caps and would there be a difference in result? Great and realistic test. 👍 Thank you for your hard work and support.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Ask Marcus.
@ashton9699
@ashton9699 Жыл бұрын
In range test video (just released) it's shown to be equipped with winter tires, so possible that they are just a set on separate rims and aren't the original rims for the car.
@eurorock5912
@eurorock5912 Жыл бұрын
Bjorn, nice to see you in Norway!)
@JoseRamonTB
@JoseRamonTB Жыл бұрын
Very good video 🎉really impressed with Tesla model S plaid
@iowa_don
@iowa_don Жыл бұрын
13:48 - Really digging the double hot dog. I may just have to get to Norway to get one of those bad boys!
@DeeKay1911
@DeeKay1911 Жыл бұрын
The swedes can supply them as well
@Blasterxp
@Blasterxp Жыл бұрын
Does it have the latest software update? Auto high beam is fixed at model 3!
@Muskar2
@Muskar2 Жыл бұрын
Really? My Model 3 claims to have the latest (2022.44.30 - Denmark) and it still does pretty much the same as Bjørn showcases. It has been slightly improved over the years (particularly the reaction to opposing drivers) but it still takes about 2 seconds to turn on, turns off to reflective road signs all the time and wants to blind pedestrians in a well lid city with no opposing cars.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Yes
@TheStopwatchGod
@TheStopwatchGod Жыл бұрын
Finally a Tesla video where the term “Game Over” makes sense
@mareksuchowski9127
@mareksuchowski9127 Жыл бұрын
21:42 Odometer checks out.
@marcoseirik
@marcoseirik Жыл бұрын
Yes, 928 is a Porsche made from 1977 to 1995, front engine V8 with a torque tube and transaxle, it was the top of the Porsche range for many years. It's the only sports car ever to be named European Car Of The Year. Also, 1337 km on the odometer.
@ivankuljis1780
@ivankuljis1780 Жыл бұрын
@0:58 That's one point to the _YOKE_
@cancimcem
@cancimcem Жыл бұрын
Same test with plaid also in summer please
@koomaj
@koomaj Жыл бұрын
Finally! Plaid is here.
@topgunm
@topgunm Жыл бұрын
No doubt that the MSP would be #1 if the test was run the summer. Summer tires have less rolling resistance than winter tires + wasted energy for heating and more drag due to the higher air density of the colder weather. In regards to the heating system (cold on the knees): There are several people that have this problem. My MSP does not have this problem.
@Overlegen
@Overlegen Жыл бұрын
So much subtle humour in your videos 😂….supercharger in Cleavage (Kløfta?)🤣🤣🤣
@apicharjiratanan4285
@apicharjiratanan4285 Жыл бұрын
If we get that speed in Thailand from charging stations super
@RikuVoipio
@RikuVoipio Жыл бұрын
This is 1000km challenge easy mode. When bz4x 🤣
@davedyer3654
@davedyer3654 Жыл бұрын
Headlights, go into settings and reset the beams!! Impressive low power consumption
@gregdavis3723
@gregdavis3723 Жыл бұрын
Bjorn, you should have run the challenge with the wheel covers installed. They're supposed to add 3 to 4 percent to the range at highway speeds. In a 1000km challenge, they could make a significant difference. When you do the 1000km challenge with the non-Plaid Model S, please use the 19" wheels with the covers.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Don't worry. I had narrower tires.
@mk500
@mk500 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t the aero hubcaps make a significant difference?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Nope, not significant. Consumption might be 5-10 Wh/km lower which means 5-10 kWh less energy needed. At 200 kW charging speed, it takes 1.5-3 minutes extra.
@JoshuaDay
@JoshuaDay Жыл бұрын
"Moose party" hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
@ivankuljis1780
@ivankuljis1780 Жыл бұрын
@0:58 First point to the _YOKE_
@vb8253
@vb8253 Жыл бұрын
2023 should be in your sheet. You're welcome 😁
@tommymorsare6876
@tommymorsare6876 Жыл бұрын
Bjorn, it would be real fun to see you take one of this tests upp north true Narvik -Kiruna- Luleå-Malmö-Alna
@Gary_R
@Gary_R Жыл бұрын
Definitely a BX estate. We had a white BX estate when I was a kid.
@berthogendoorn2133
@berthogendoorn2133 Жыл бұрын
do the 2023 Kia EV6 but with battery preconditioning and see how it performs!
@zollerattila3316
@zollerattila3316 Жыл бұрын
"EVs are for city use only - and it takes ages to charge them anyway..." 😁 Great video, however, I HATED the music... ...as for the chill in the car - I am sure it was because you got used to Thai climate and now even 22 degrees seem to be cold to you 🤪
@UweRoclawski
@UweRoclawski Жыл бұрын
Name for the Plaid: The Green Manalishi (with the two prong crown)🤘
@gr8899
@gr8899 Жыл бұрын
The problem with the auto high beam on motorways is that the headlights of the oncoming vehicles are hidden by barriers between the lanes.. it works better (but not perfect) on normal roads.
@ajinkya_p
@ajinkya_p Жыл бұрын
Date should be 18/02/2023. At 22:30 min.
@RhabdoRacing
@RhabdoRacing Жыл бұрын
Remarkable. The aero hun caps would also help it quite a bit
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Yes, but this car had narrower tires than original.
@stefankunz2776
@stefankunz2776 Жыл бұрын
Did you try Dragstrip mode to preheat the battery 20min before fastcharging?
@Chris21709
@Chris21709 Жыл бұрын
I noticed max regen power was 110 kW. Is that only true for the Plaid? I think it's 85 kW for 3/Y, and once saw that track mode bumps that up to (I think) 115 kW. All models should have a higher max regen option, 115 kW or so.
@tesla-spectre
@tesla-spectre Жыл бұрын
You have to do a summer run with this beast. It might with some luck beat the Kia even! Totally impressive. Consumption might be 20-30% less, no?
@nfcknblvbl
@nfcknblvbl Жыл бұрын
You put the plaid test date at 2022
@tellusw9701
@tellusw9701 Жыл бұрын
Use the standard aero caps next time for better result
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Tell Marcus that.
@tellusw9701
@tellusw9701 Жыл бұрын
I think you have better contact with him, or drive by a tesla center before LR test.
@Bazs
@Bazs Жыл бұрын
2.3kA by acceleration is crazy!
@ChaimLoecher
@ChaimLoecher Жыл бұрын
Imagine taking a Formula1 car with family of 5 to a 1000km road trip - it's Plaid 😎
@Blasterxp
@Blasterxp Жыл бұрын
Happy to see you and basting the roads!
@achtungpolizei7614
@achtungpolizei7614 Жыл бұрын
Im wondering why people mostly talk about the speed drag mode etc. the raven already performed insane fast. But one should put the focus more on the nice modern Interieur that feels just so good. And the nice low noise levels really help to enjoy a ride even more.
@kiwijonowilson
@kiwijonowilson Жыл бұрын
That auto high beam at least looks a lot better than it used to be for Tesla! Previously it was totally unusable!
@youtuberpov
@youtuberpov Жыл бұрын
I wonder if auto wipers button gets swapped with the blinkers button will help. Basically left and right blinkers goes to each respective side.
@seb.
@seb. Жыл бұрын
I think people will add S3XY buttons to fix these turn signals
@TheEdmaster87
@TheEdmaster87 Жыл бұрын
Will be nice in summertime you do test on autobahn and also the speed tests (hammering) do you dare to hit 270km/h+?
@liimatankari
@liimatankari Жыл бұрын
Cant wait you to do 1000km challenge with Toyota bZ4X and 3rd charging stop using AC speed :)
@pvmagnus
@pvmagnus Жыл бұрын
Nice. Side note.. we can't even get auto high beam right how do they think they can get autopilot working lol
@alexanderkenway
@alexanderkenway Жыл бұрын
Yeah for sure we're gonna need a summer run. Also imagine the LR Plaid 😲
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
It's either LR (Long Range) or Plaid. You can't have "LR Plaid".
@pigedehekkan
@pigedehekkan Жыл бұрын
Grayscale land for the win 🤣 Looking forward to traveling with TG951 to RGB land next month 🌏
@w0nd3rlu573r
@w0nd3rlu573r Жыл бұрын
0:58 sOtp! sOtp it now. The yoke makes sense only if the turning radius is paired with the speed of the car, so yo wouldn't need to rotate more than 90 degrees. Then and only then I will agree, that this type of steering wheel makes sense. Anything else is shmutZ.
@didierbeyens4165
@didierbeyens4165 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to see the test with the nio et7 or et5 with battery swapping 😂😜
@randomrud
@randomrud Жыл бұрын
Of course Marcusbil god a Plaid. :D He's really slaying it isn't he. 👍
@nrogers99
@nrogers99 Жыл бұрын
I so want one of these great cars! Great video
@nielsvandenkieboom5034
@nielsvandenkieboom5034 Жыл бұрын
Your fan speed was on Low. That’s why you were cold at 22 degrees. Even though you have it on auto it will still need you to adjust fan speed sometimes for comfort.
@topgunm
@topgunm Жыл бұрын
My MSP is always set at low. Does not have this problem, and I have driven it at -20c :)
@nielsvandenkieboom5034
@nielsvandenkieboom5034 Жыл бұрын
@@topgunm Odd. I noticed it in my Model 3 a while back as well. Felt like I needed to put it to medium fan speed for a bit. So I did and it helped out a lot. So does seat heater though.
@topgunm
@topgunm Жыл бұрын
@@nielsvandenkieboom5034 I have heard that several MSP have this problem. Something is wrong with those cars. Take it to the SC.
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
It was on auto.
@nielsvandenkieboom5034
@nielsvandenkieboom5034 Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland I know it was. But since a recent update ‘Auto’ doesn’t actually mean ‘Auto’ for some reason. And you can still adjust fan speed while being on ‘Auto’. You can see it in the video that the fan speed is on Low despite being on ‘Auto’ and then you can change it to Medium while still being on ‘Auto’. So it’s not ‘Auto’ anymore. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature! 😂🤷‍♂️
@pumpuppthevolume
@pumpuppthevolume Жыл бұрын
yep when u r parked the joke wheel makes sense 😆
@DerProfi-de
@DerProfi-de Жыл бұрын
A German KZbinr had the windscreen in his Plaid set in cricket. He had wind noises on the right A Pillar.
@FGGiskard
@FGGiskard Жыл бұрын
What was the key in this challenge to get a 9:10 with higher consumption than the EQS? was charging much much faster?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
EQS peaks at around 205 kW whereas Tesla peaked at 247 kW.
@FGGiskard
@FGGiskard Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland that makes sense. Great effort as always. Thanks for the videos
@apicharjiratanan4285
@apicharjiratanan4285 Жыл бұрын
Tesla auto pilot!!! I wanna do cup instant noodles mama challenge! 😂 with the hot water
@mikaelskoglund373
@mikaelskoglund373 Жыл бұрын
Moose Party, are you invited??😂
@steliangraur2383
@steliangraur2383 Жыл бұрын
Because of the separators from the midle of the highways the system dosen't recognise incoming traffic and dosen't tourn off the highbeam. I also drive a truck and is very annoying.
@apkungen89
@apkungen89 Жыл бұрын
Also regarding Eqs vs model s, the model s is way lighter. That decreases the consumption quite a bit.
@strongandhealthy126
@strongandhealthy126 Жыл бұрын
To be honest my Audi also turns off the high beams so late when there is something in betwenn both lanes, like on the Autobahn.
@neuromancer777
@neuromancer777 Жыл бұрын
And Tesla does not even has a 800V system yet. I guess with the new platform they will kill charging time of any other verhicle.
@topgunm
@topgunm Жыл бұрын
Also don't know what mode you used, but if you used Plaid mode it will keep the batteries at a higher temperature than necessary (see the manual), which will have an impact on range.
@razorr_o
@razorr_o Жыл бұрын
6:10 how is this measurement tool called?
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Scan My Tesla (look in video description)
@razorr_o
@razorr_o Жыл бұрын
@@bjornnyland thanks
@seb.
@seb. Жыл бұрын
Now that you're familiar with Tesla yoke, compare it with a Lexus RZ. Can't believe Tesla didn't make it properly. For headlights, - long press only forces high beam. - quick press flashes or turn off high beam.
@Romulus451
@Romulus451 Жыл бұрын
Björn, you have to test Model S Plaid on German Autobahn for the win 😁
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
I have to get better tires first.
@moestrei
@moestrei Жыл бұрын
Plaid in Stau test.
@andreatoffolo3488
@andreatoffolo3488 Жыл бұрын
how can u not go crazy with all that stuff into the carpet inside? Am i right that in Norway its impossibile to have the car clean in winter season? :)
@bartwaggoner2000
@bartwaggoner2000 Жыл бұрын
Ha ha you have to train yourself not to notice in Schmutzland in the winter
@TerjeMathisen
@TerjeMathisen Жыл бұрын
The outside will always be horrible: It is impossible to drive on a combination of salted/wet/frozen roads without immediately turning grey/black/striped. On the inside you just have to have proper contoured rubber mats everywhere.
@RamonSmits
@RamonSmits Жыл бұрын
So the plaid x/s still have bad HVAC air flow even though it does use the same type of servo ducts as the Y/3
@erathol
@erathol Жыл бұрын
Do GT again with the latest software update and efficiency mode! Last time it was corona and different route
@bjornnyland
@bjornnyland Жыл бұрын
Latest software chargers slower than before... but ok.
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