Tesla Model S Plaid acceleration, braking and active noise cancelling

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[@Highlander247]

The level of work you put in to bring us these tests is crazy, thank you and keep bringing us all the info!

[@danielmahmood9775]

Thats his job

[@propergander8509]

Man, I love the looks of those Kempower chargers! So inoffensively and unobtrusively small, unlike Alpitronic chargers for example. Long, flexible cable, so any car can charge in pretty much every parking position. I really wish Tesla would take note on the cable part if they’re going to fully open up their superchargers!

[@johnyoungquist6540]

I tried to find an improvement in noise level by turning on ANC. I couldn't identify any real improvement. I considered trying to measure it but concluded if I couldn't hear the difference it didn't mater what the number were. Tesla and everyone else are rather silent on ANC these days. It really doesn't do much. While anti-noise works very well in the small enclosed volume of a headset ear cup it is impossible to get the same result in a large volume. Attempts at cancelling in an airplane cabin have failed there too.. I have tried as you and others have to see an improvement in efficiency by lowering the suspension. That doesn't do much if anything either. The window defog performance is pitiful and even dangerous in high humidity condiitions and the auto wipers don't work nearly as well as my Volvo did 20 years ago. Never the less I've been driving Tesla's for 8 years couldn't go back.

[@selldivision]

Thank you Bjorn. You're an unbelievable resource!

[@TheTallRaver]

Love the detailed testing and the Excel spreadsheets! Thank you Bjorn!

[@paescu_2k350]

Maybe you could also test acceleration of Plaid in spring with summer tires.

[@ChristianBlueChimp]

Looking for this.

[@MarkGovier]

Hi Bjorn, if you're willing to put another couple of hours into this to follow up, you could put the original recorded audio into Audacity and get some spectra. This would show the "true" effect of the ANR cutting a little of the rumble. Quite graphic. You would probably be able to show the noise profile of different tyres from some of your historic tests too. Part of the problem for us if that the audio we heard is re encoded by your video rendering, again but Google for YT and then by whatever device you listen on. The spectrum would be more "genuine". Excellent video as usual.

[@vessk000]

I prefer real acoustic isolation and treatment, not the fake electronic one, it makes me dizzy. Great test, btw, I dig the noise test from the passenger headrest position! We have to compare cars from the same place. Also, the sound profile of the noise has to be considered, pure db levels don't tell much.

[@Terrillthegreat79]

I always laugh when I see that interior, but most people don’t get the ‘yoke’

[@w0nd3rlu573r]

3:18 Yep. 80 - best, 100 - better, 120 so-so. :) Seems like it's removing mostly the lower frequencies.

[@mortenandreengen1321]

I have a Plaid up in the north of Norway. My expreience is that the level of salt (both on dry and wet roads) makes a lot of difference in acceleration. Salt makes less grip on a road without ice. I had a Model 3 Performance before. I did not feel any difference between salty and not salted roads. No doubt that the Plaid feels close to twice as fast as my old car. It is a device for frictiontesting.

[@baranguler1168]

Yes, indeed. Wider, stickier tyres and lowered/stiffer suspension setup will shorten brake distance. Big/better brake kit will only prolong brake fade and not shorten brake distance.

[@gzcwnk]

Actually seeing the expansion of chargers in Norway is great!

[@gabrielecomensoli2787]

Great test. As your results claim, tyres measure matters a lot when it comes to performance (as well as weather conditions).

[@AllanSustainabilityFan]

"for those who are wondering what the Tesla Model S Plaid's 0-60 time is on unprepped asphalt, without the 1-foot rollout, without drag mode, without launch control, without pedal overlap-so, just "slap-n-go"-the unadulterated 0-60 time is 2.45 seconds" - Motortrend Tesla Plaid Channel has some good results to look at for over 400 runs with the Plaid, first half with back seats, the other half with them removed. I think his best 1/8 mile (~0.2km) result was around 5.95s, and 1/4 mile (~0.4km) was around 8.9s iirc.

[@topgunm]

GREAT explanation Bjørn of the importance of tires and also the braking. The Plaid brakes are fine, unless, like you mentioned, you drive it on the track or do several hard brakings without letting the brakes cool down. In regards to testing acceleration and braking again, please just wait for the spring, so you can put on some summer tires. The amount of power the Plaid has, needs all the grip it can get. My Plaid in the DRY, at 140+ has wheelspin with stock winter (R5s) tires.

[@johnhadlow9345]

Thanks Bjørn! FYI Winter 21's (PZero Winter) on MSP work very well once rolling but still not close to level of Pilot Sport summer for full-bore starts, braking or surprisingly, turn-in on corners. Nice that they are W rated so the tyres are faster than the car today. I'm waiting for Spring. Perhaps re-run with OEM summer rather than other winters? I think that the noise is a bit worse on PZero Winter (M01A) than summer (T2 Michelin). Perhaps because no foam in winters and foam liner (and a temperature sensor) in T2 21's. Plaid really needs the grip from a standstill.

[@ngatatan2597]

It seem that the ANC reduced the low frequency rumble but not the high frequency rumble.

[@bjornnyland]

Korrekt. That's how ANC works best.

[@TommiHimberg]

@@bjornnyland Would be interesting to see spectrograms side by side from ANC on and ANC off. Difficult to hear the difference over KZbin even on headphones, and I was surprised then to see the difference at 80kp/h was 3dB which is, as you said, huge, as it was barely audible on the video.

[@baron_xd4633]

might be how the mic picks things up, but to me the rumble is louder/more annoying with anc on

[@bjornnyland]

You need better speaker with more bass.

[@ARPost-kn2jl]

ANC in an "open area" is very hard to accomplish. The microphones detecting the noise need to be as close as possible to your ears, rather millimeters than centimeters. And thats a diffirent location for every one and every passenger.

[@KuramaKitsune1]

793KW launch 1063.4 HP

[@iowa_don]

12:44 - Why, why, why did Marcus put narrower winter tires on the Plaid? Surely it came with the correct width tires. Crazy. Here is hoping you can re-test in the summer with the correct tires on the car. Did you feel any tire slippage during hard acceleration (which reduces the power)?

[@ericvet8b]

Spot on

[@thrustsst]

Very interesting with this active anti-noise built into the headrests. It seems that the ANC, as I could predict, is mostly the long wave sound (the bass) that is reduced. High frequency sound will be very difficult to reduce with active anti-noise. In my opinion, noise must first of all be perceived subjectively and a decibel figure tells only a limited part of the sound perceived by a human ear.

[@FGGiskard]

14:30 Maybe appart from the fact that germans undersell the 0-100, a winter tire will probably only be able to put down on the road X amount of power. So maybe the other cars, since they are not as powerful they do not "loose" as much power compared to summer tires.

[@Humuku]

I thought that the Plaid videos would be coming quicker......bad joke, welcome back to Norway. 👍🏻

[@ARPost-kn2jl]

The Tesla ANC test I was waiting for! The noise in my MS Raven is terrible here in the EU where I mostly drive at 100-150kph. Thank god for ANC earbuds! But this test shows me I dont need to upgrade to a new model S yet... :( Thanks Bjorn, you just spared me a dissapointing test drive :)

[@bjornnyland]

Illegal in Norway.

[@ARPost-kn2jl]

@@bjornnyland earbuds? Yeah I can imagine. Maybe here also..? Id rather didnt need them. Anyways they just filter road and wind noise. Still can hear horns, sirenes and my wife :) -update; Just checked, earbuds in traffic seems to be allowed in the NL, as long as you can still hear other traffic. Noise level goes from 68 to 40db :) better than germans!

[@mandioni]

Nice and as always useful informations. But, the delta vs. e-tron specs is still markable. I still prefere Hardware as glass instead of Software ANC

[@freestymc]

all correct. one time braking the tesla brakes are fine, as long as the abs starts working or the wheel locks, the brakes are enough and stopping distance couldnt be improved. when it comes to multiple brakings, the brake will overheat and start fading - but this will only happen on tracks. same for model 3/Y.

[@spl1011]

Brake

[@freestymc]

@@spl1011 right

[@lapmobile5369]

Are we sure ANC still works if no one is sitting in the seat?

[@dingdong2103]

it only works next to the headrests for sure

[@thefallandrise]

Great test

[@colla555]

OK, works similarly to my Samsung Buds 2. Doesn't cancel everything out, but mainly deep noises. In this case the deeper tones from the road noise.

[@Arpedk]

15:00, there is a big grip problem when you have the power to go below 2,5s 0-100 with the Plaid on winter tires. On the Mercedes it has the power to go ~3.3s 0-100 much less a problem with the grip. So no matter the power under the hood you cannot go under 3s 0-100 on winter tires. So a slower accelerating car say +6s 0-100 would not really care about being on winter tires vs summer tires.

[@sylvainjamais904]

I was sceptical about the ANC, it did better than I expected

[@KuramaKitsune1]

Listening to this on my phone on KZbin application 1080p in my Tesla with the stereo cranked up and you can totally hear that there is a reduction in the womp womp sound of the road

[@RhabdoRacing]

Do you think there is more power potential like previous Tesla cars in the Plaid, or is the battery turned up to the Max?

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

Coming from a 2019 3P, my 2023 berlin YP is super quiet. I know there are more quiet cars, but even on highway on the winter wheels it suprises me quite often.

[@yegorrussalev6614]

Your answer gives me a hope! I really want a MY LR, but what I see so far I cannot even compare to a relatively normal 3 Series BMW with doubble glazed windows.

[@OlavAlexanderMjelde]

@@yegorrussalev6614 the new Ys have double glass front and rear.

[@ModPhreak]

It would be most effective at the head positions, which is where you should place a mankind with in-ear mics to correctly measure it.

[@FGGiskard]

3dB is a big difference really. I think the video did not pick it up well maybe

[@Nomanmirza]

Nicely done 👍

[@ytprodata]

My Genesis GV60 EV has ANC I believe

[@tequilatom]

ANC, my kids find it with ANC OFF it is quiter and better... so maybe not a good feature...

[@bjornnyland]

They are not tall enough.

[@020555555]

Old 80s Toyota had ANC built in for a quiet ride. But it was removed for some reason, one of the reasons was the ANC made is so that all constant noise was blocked which meant that you could not hear if a wheel bearing was going bad or was damaged which could potentially become dangerous if it were to fail

[@Joe-lb8qn]

TBF Toyotas do seem to have a problem with the wheels falling off so i can see why they did that

[@Lucas-wp2ph]

@@Joe-lb8qn Toyotas in the 80s could drive over mines and the wheels would still not come off. The new ones are a different story😁

[@Joe-lb8qn]

@@stevenjones916 Oh well thats OK then 🤣

[@kennibal666]

Significant reduction of the low-mid rumble.

[@ora10053]

seems like ANC really helps cutting off road noise from the wheel arcs but doesn't help much with aero noise on higher speeds

[@bjornnyland]

Korrekt. That's how ANC works.

[@SustainableGal]

as a UK resident I envy Norwegians so much! Kempower is so much better than our 50kw 'Always be Broken' chargers from ABB, plus they are litterally still installing 50kw as 'RAPID' as they are considered new in the UK! completely stupid!

[@SustainableGal]

even the new GridServe forcorts could be better!

[@jadeventoniemi5795]

There are some charging hubs in the UK with Kempower chargers! Hopefully you can try one soon!

[@unclezeppy]

Back in days in one sports car test the wish was to some day test a car which the breaking and acceleration times were the same. Now we have them.

[@f36443]

Tires make all the difference. Even my P85D has done a 2.8sec 0-60mph with really sticky, barely legal tires

[@0-Will-0]

Ninja tip for quiet ride: ANC earphones! Possibly illegal in lots of Europe though...

[@bjornnyland]

Illegal in Norway.

[@reynoldichi1090]

Yes, the road noise is gone at 80kmh speed with anc on.

[@hardywoodaway9912]

breaking performance is always tire dependent. You only see differences breaking performances after multiple breaks. A single break test will tell you nothing about the breaks.

[@gravityzulu]

hello!

[@razor_ramon_]

How do you call this measurement tool at 5:07?

[@bjornnyland]

Scan My Tesla (look in video description)

[@Blasterxp]

It doesnt use full kw to get to 100kmh!!

[@bjornnyland]

That's because hp = torque*rpm

[@wakeywarrior]

I can’t hear any difference.

[@bjornnyland]

You need better speakers. Playing it on your phone won't give you the right impression.

[@raghuramkalyanam]

Isn’t the calibration to be done while moving at different speeds? At standstill with out road noise what does it calibrate to?

[@bjornnyland]

It calibrated after just 30 seconds of driving.

[@MeanJackal]

Nio ET7?

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@tesla-spectre]

Somehow I still think that M3/Y are very good deals in terms of what you get for your money. New X and S for me not so much, considering I can get 3 Base Model 3 for one or 2 LR with lots of money to spare. Old S are different for me since they are still great cars after all that time and here at about the price of a Base Model 3 🤷‍♂️ but that is a very personal assessment.

[@gyuri647]

At Plaid price level would rather buy a Porsche Taycan

[@jonsboy8970]

@@gyuri647 Compared to the Plaid the Taycan is pretty bad.

[@jonsboy8970]

Preis/Leistung stimmt bei Model S und X Plaid trotzdem, wegen der Performance.

[@kamil004]

this ANC work like "Still Calibrating 0%" Still a lot of noise

[@bjornnyland]

The 0 % calibrating was only when parked. It went to 100 % (done) after just 30 seconds of driving.

[@RM-sd5yw]

When NIO ET7 test drive

[@user-us6ii2ph2q]

ANC works much better with music

[@bartwaggoner2000]

1 foot rollout maybe makes sense for super high horsepower vehicles as tires need chance to hook up

[@tridruankham2657]

❤❤❤

[@pachinger]

I could have sworn I heard something kind of like ANC in a friend's Model Y (I heard a very faint weird echo from my own talking). The reason why I immediately thought of ANC was that it reminded me of ANC headphones. Anyone know what this could have been?

[@wpte]

Acoustics

[@Sarman605]

Reverb from all the glass

[@kam_iko]

all glass and leather makes for terrible acoustics… 😢

[@neuromancer777]

Actually Bjorn for these test you would need to always use the same tire brand imo otherwise it makes no sense.

[@selldivision]

Why? The car comes with the tyre the manufacturer chooses. Why wouldn't you compare the cars AS THEY COME FROM THE FACTORY?

[@arthurchoi8080]

@@selldivisionagreed

[@neuromancer777]

@@selldivision as you can clearly see the plaid does not have the correct tire. did you watch the video ? also wintertest maybe Nokian could provide Bjorn with tires to test all cars ith nokian winter tires.

[@bjornnyland]

Tesla uses Nokian winter tires. So this test is valid.

[@neuromancer777]

@@bjornnyland But they where wrong sizes no ? SO not really comparable to a Tycan S etc ? So maybe a retest with the correct tires size would make sense.

[@grzegorzgr4718]

Not so impresive, Tesla didnt kick ass for the lord!

[@KK-up3pq]

Passive sound proofing will stay the same or get worse over time. ANC might improve over time.

[@vessk000]

We'd have to do it for ourselves.

[@Twin.motors]

Acceleration test is very slow... I did a better time with 4 people inside a p100d

[@bjornnyland]

You had summer tires. This car had winter tires.

[@ottowillumnielsen9083]

Very noisy car, and imagine need electronic noise reduction, which does not reduce the real noise, it takes the actual noise, and send another out which compensate, and then that yoke, so stupid as can be.. For the Tesla fan boys, only thing is can do 2 seconds 0 to 100, apart from that has nothing more to offer, oh yes more banana boxes than the Mercedes

[@bjornnyland]

Disagree. It's not "very noisy". It's not as quiet as the top German cars. But this car is not "very noisy" at all. Try 2019 Model 3 and you will know what I mean.

[@airestocky]

german cars: +500 kg of weight for sound proofing? they‘re so heavy - are they more safe? no. So, why are they so heavy…?

[@Scrap-press]

They tend to over engineer and miss simple solutions.

[@ulyden1947]

Probably they put in bigger buffer in the batteries. Better noise isolation, stiffer chassis, stiffer dors, stronger better suspension, heavier seats with ventilation.

[@ojayfy]

Wtf . 3 Point Something Seconds 0-100?

[@bjornnyland]

Tires, tires, tires

[@jestronixhanderson9898]

Yeh was going to say shes slow lol then i remembered the SOC and surface and possible extra weight.

[@ojayfy]

@@jestronixhanderson9898 soc wasnt the Problem at 87 percent. Tires makes sense.

[@douwe3300]

@@ojayfy 19" winter tires

[@bjornnyland]

Narrower than original also.