Tesla Model Y vs Lexus RX Hybrid SUV: 5 Year Ownership Cost Comparison

[@brocluno01]

Couple of thoughts: What if you don't drive 15K a year AND you don't sell your car at the end of 5 years? What is the the look and feel of the Lexus vs the Tesla? Say you keep your car for 20 years (as my wife and I do), how do you suppose the interior will hold up? I know how the Lexus interior will hold up (one of the best built cars out there). I know what the average number and a costs of repairs is for a 2001 Lexus. I have no idea what a 20 year old M-Y will look or feel like ... And once out of warranty, the repair costs are pretty intimidating ... A motor replacement or a worst case battery replacement after 8 years could easily erase much of the proposed savings ... I'm not knocking a M-Y or any Tesla, but we have all seen the displays go out on older Model S's, and that associated cost. We have seen out of warranty cost for a rear motor replacement too. Once out of warranty, Tesla's are looking pretty scary. Until we get a better and more competitive parts replacement model for Tesla's, they don't look great for long term ownership ...

[@superloose5632]

Have always updated our Lexus RX models since 2006 as they are the best cars ever but better still is the Lexus service, it really is second to none and here’s why... We live 145km away from the Lexus service and when due they’d make the journey each time (no extra charge) to pick up the car (300km round trip) and leave the brand new latest model as courtesy transport for a day or two... even after the warranty expired?! Comon Lexus we just wish they’d would go electric too as we love their cars... ! But recently we took a friends Model S for a drive and as it so happened we we’re sold on it and we’re now on the Model Y waiting list!! If Tesla adopt the Lexus policy in servicing then it will definitely be game over for many motor companies.

[@lplt]

not sure if available in your area but they do have at home servicing and like he said in the video theres almost never any need for servicing so thats actually a knock on the lexus

[@superloose5632]

lplt Actually that’s a good point which was another reason we went with Tesla...

[@gro2709]

I, too, currently own a 2011 RX450h (it was a CPO on the dealer lot) and absolutely love the car. All my regular servicing was done for free for the first five years and that's the only thing I've had to do for my car. Everything work perfectly, even after 9 years! My previous Lexus RX300 (1999) I owned until 2014 when I bought my 450h. Yes, I need to use premium fuel (and here in Hawaii, it's expensive!) and tires wear out, too. But our electricity costs are the highest in the nation so my cost of ownership (COO) would be higher than on the mainland. Also, there are no service centers here on the Big Island so the car would need to be shipped to Oahu for required service. That would make me nervous since watching countless KZbin vids about Tesla cars show that there are problems with quality control. Does anyone else know what Tesla would do for those who live on an island 167 miles from the nearest service center?

[@nelsonmacy1010]

My understanding is the in the coming years insurance costs will vary significantly give safety of Tesla in crashes, 8x crash avoidance and Tesla’s own insurance. Can you think about insurance as a cost differentiator too? Thx for the good analysis

[@dhincks1]

With the model Y if you have solar you can drive for alot less than posted. Here in Marin there's a bunch of place's to charge for free. I do with my LRDM 3. I currently don't have a way to charge whare I live. I'm not aware of any free fueling for any ice car. Added bonus in the Y in a garage with the door closed you can run either heat or air conditioning. Try that in a Lexus!!

[@matt.hartwig]

I'm looking into solar panels for this very reason. Drive for free.

[@SGVFOOTBALL]

Can you redo the video now with the current prices? I need to justify my purchase LOL.

[@AhmedYehias]

Funny how depreciation values work in the US, here in the UAE, as soon as you put plates on the car it drops 20% regardless of any brand.

[@drscrubs]

Depreciation is based on demand. If a vehicle model is in high demand and very limited supply, a used car will still go for a high price because people are willing to shell out the money for the vehicle, even if it is used. Vice versa, if there are a lot of a certain model or if that model is significant upgrade every 3 years or so, the used vehicle of that model loses more value as a used car because people will choose to forgo buying the used version of the model to get the new version. Does the UAE force a price drop once a car a is "used". As in the government forces all used car to automatically lose 20% in value no matter how popular or rare the vehicle is?

[@patrickf01]

Great comparison. More please!

[@jonnykromps9836]

Fuel filter at 60k for $550!!?! And spark plugs replaced at 60k?? Are you sure you are looking at the actual maintenance schedule for that specific vehicle?? You used the word “probably” 10+ times. Would like to see more facts than “probables”

[@matt.hartwig]

Dealerships aren't typically open about their pricing for service. Hoping that improves.

[@dreamer90ant]

@@matt.hartwig you can easily call any dealer and ask for pricing, there’s no secret formula that they will surprise you with when the work is done!

[@genaroherrera4842]

As an owner of a Lexus 2013 RX-450h and a Model 3 2018, I can say this is an excellent and a very appropriate comparison. The RX has been the best luxury SUV for many years. The Y will dethrone the RX next year, if not this year. The RX is a very good car but it is not a Tesla. M3 and MY are way better. My RX is 7 years old. The GPS has not been upgraded because it cost almost $400,00 to do so! In 18 months, my M3 has improved so much that it has been a new car dozens of times through software updates. The RX is far behind in technology and ultimately, it is more expensive.

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thanks for the perspective from an actual owner!

[@petergazarek4238]

LEXUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN EXTREMELY INNOVATIVE AND PRECISION WHICH MAKES IT RELIABLE THROUGH THE HIGH COMPLEXITY OF THEIR CARS. LEXUS IS A SIMPLE CAR that MAKES EXCEPTIONAL QUALITY CARS LIKE NO OTHER BRAND IN THE WORLD, NOT TO mention THE NUMBER OF NEW PATENTS TOGETHER WITH TOYOTA. LEXUS IS THE BEST OF THE BEST AVAILABLE IN THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY 👌🏻😎👍🏻

[@ahmedalsharman]

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[@jeffjiegao]

When I saw spark plug replacement at 60k, I knew I was scammed 4 minutes and 15 seconds of my life.

[@christophersmalling8889]

Spark plugs should be replaced at 100,000 miles

[@ericfleming347]

Lexus has a stellar reputation for reliability they are experienced at building hybrid vehicles they are excellent. It is quite the opposite for Tesla I have heard horror stories about them they are not built well at all. I find it hilarious that people think they are saving the environment by driving a Tesla yet they pull into a charging station powered by diesel generators.Todays gas powered cars are engineered to run extremely clean they are polluting the environment far less than a diesel powered generator. 🤣🤣🤣

[@johnliu8721]

Great video. Not sure if you can update the number in 2023. I found out that the cost of the car insurance is twice as much as the Lexus RX350h, while the new Lexus get 6 more miles per gallon.

[@driversteve9345]

This all sounds good EXCEPT that I don't like the interior of a Model Y, S, or 3! And, I don't like all the downtime of charging the car much less trying to find a charger to charge at with the hopes of it not being busy and having to wait to charge! BTW, I live in an apartment complex that has no EV chargers so that isn't an option!

[@tz7040]

Alright.... I just bought a model 3 long range and it takes me 8 weeks to contact Tesla and send it back to factories fix the hood.Which cost so many times and I have to drive my 2011 Toyota..

[@muffdriver69]

LMAO. Is this a joke?

[@larsjrgensen5975]

The brainwashing machine is running at full ludicrous + cheetah launch mode. The Tesla still needs brake replacement and service, both cars can brakeregen and they are both around the same weight, so they would need the same service. If i freewheel and engine brake too much in my ICE car, rust will eat up my brakes or make them seize because of low use, the same goes for a always brake regen Tesla, they would need brake service long before the pads wear out. The coolant system in the Tesla Y is much more complicated then a normal ICE car and there is a lot more things to cool or heat up, so this systems needs atleast the same care and service as any other ICE or Hybrid car. I tend to buy used cars that are 10 years old, because I am poor and live in a country with record high car taxes. A out of warranty Tesla would scare the crap out of me because a new battery or motor would force me to throw out the car and if they dont get the coolant system and brakes serviced like any other car, because the customer thinks it is not needed, you are driving in a timebomb. I think the out of warranty value depreciation is going to catch up with the Lexus fast and the overnight depreciation following a over the air update, that limits the supercharger speed if used too much is also going to be a problem. The self driving feature that could disappear when selling the car is also a bit scary, it looks like you need to be famous or important to get it re added again.

[@roger_is_red]

Nice and very thorough . Go Tesla and Go Green

[@alana6806]

I love this informative video

[@ausmartin1]

Interesting to compare the Y to a non Hybrid regular SUV with much lower initial cost. Hybrid or full electric = higher depreciation especially when older and out of warranty.

[@brettbutler6714]

Very good comprehensive comparison. Some things need to be updated. For example the $800 interior is debatable, because Tesla only offers one and some people view the Tesla interior as behind the others. Also some maintenance cost are rather high or could perhaps be covered under the 4/50k mileage package with Lexus. I have a model 3 and am enjoying it so far but these comparisons should try to stick to as much factual as possible. Like the depreciation, should just have used the model 3 since there is no data. The model Y is going to win in a cost comparison just like model 3 will win in its category because EV's always have the advantage of being more efficient, versus the ICE equivalent.

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@duanehorton4680]

Assuming an average regular gasoline price of $1.80 per gallon and 30 mpg, I calculate the fuel cost for the Lexus to travel 25 miles as $1.50, not $2.27. This would reduce the Lexus annual fuel cost by about $450, or $2250 over 5 years. The table says "Based on...current fuel/energy prices." Am I missing something?

[@Cleanerwatt]

The calculations were done by the EPA and not me. They are assuming city and highway driving with gas prices slightly higher then what they are now (but when the video was recorded they were accurate).

[@duanehorton4680]

@@Cleanerwatt Based on my calculation, gas prices must have been 50% higher than current prices, not "slightly higher." I recommend that you quantify all assumptions used in your video, including fuel/energy costs. This will especially aid viewers in countries which have vastly different costs.

[@tilted8]

Thank you for the estimates!!

[@ROD7271964]

Your comparison is HIGHLY skewed as you mentioned you don't have FACTS about the model Y depreciation. Lexus has pioneered the luxury SUV while Tesla is still in the infancy stage..I encourage ALL comsumers to looks at the Tesla fit and finish and you will be mortified with the gaps between fenders..interior trim that does not match and on & on..I am also wondering how can you factor financing when the RX can be purchased at ZERO percent. Elon must have paid you well for this comparison🤫

[@christophersmalling8889]

This is just for someone who leases or buys a new car every few years. Wait until the warranty's are up and it will be a totally different story. Fuel filter? $90 oil change? your numbers seem inflated to me, and I guess quality and fit and finish don't mean anything to you. Oh yeah and the cost to keep replacing batteries.

[@chubulu9842]

This guy basis his analysis on data and numbers. Love that! hence subscribed.

[@California007]

Would you please do a comparion between Model Y & Lexus NX450h ? (it gets 36 electric miles)

[@aliakseiivanov7923]

If I had money to buy a car for 50k, why would I care about running cost comparison. I would definitely go for quality and comfort of Lexus.

[@michaelrocks1529]

Aliaksei Ivanov yeah Lexus cars are definitely nicer on the interior and that goes a long way for road trips.

[@Cross-xm2fr]

Hybrids are two cars in one with all the maintenance that a gas car and an ev needs. No long term future.

[@kt10208]

All old Priuses disagree with this comment.

[@straightbusta2609]

@@kt10208 exactly lol, Priuses travel 500k+ miles with no problems lol

[@gsadow]

You point out the options that are standard on the Tesla but optional on the Lexus, but not vice versa. Your comparisons would be better if they were more neutral.

[@Cleanerwatt]

The point was to bring the two cars as close as possible to an "apples to apples" comparison, not a feature comparison video.

[@gsadow]

@@Cleanerwatt Understood, and its a good model. But there are bound to be some features that the Lexus has but the Tesla needs to be optioned up to reach. Or at least a very minimal discussion on how premium audio or premium interiors compare. The premium Lexus interior may well be far superior for most people, and therefore the standard Lexus interior is pretty competitive with the Tesla.

[@indeewaramunasinghe1874]

What about the batteries?

[@bmw803]

The content is good, but what everyone forgets is, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE UNTIL YOU BREAK EVEN???? Spend 20K more in order to save it in 6-7 years is not saving ANYTHING. It pays off , yes, but it takes years. And once you broke even, the car will be close to 10 years old. What else will be needed on that EV. I'm in Western NY. We get A SHIT LOAD OF SNOW therefore salt on the roads. This might work for southern states, but for us up north, those cars aren't worth it yet.

[@stevem3439]

It will be the 5-10 year slot, the second hand car market, where you'll see the real difference. Here you encounter the dumb ice car falling apart, while the Tesla will be smarter and as good as at 1000 miles. Please do a comparison like this using a model S or X. Ideally it should be a 3 or Y because they are made for the mass market. Thanks for another great video!

[@christophersmalling8889]

According to you a Toyota or Lexus will be falling apart after 10 years? Obviously you have never owned one. At that point they are just getting started

[@stevem3439]

@@christophersmalling8889 As a South African I've got great respect for Toyota. They can take a hammering, yet have many more components that go wrong. Your argument relies on fair use and good maintenance, whereas Teslas are a game changer in this respect. As new battery tech hits the road Teslas will be lighter and improve range. Link this to AI and the world as we know it will change dramatically.

[@gregolsen1489]

in your pervious comparisons of Tesla Model Y vs Toyota RAV4, you estimated the cost per mile after 5 years would be $0.66. what happened since than that the cost dropped by $0.13 in your estimation here? some discrepancy here.

[@backdoormanintheend]

How is California's carbon tax implemented? Does it affect the price of ice cars?

[@michaelkim15]

Not, based on 50K miles, how about cost difference factoring up to replacement of Tesla battery replacement?

[@themoviecapo]

Woo Kim what battery replacements? Battery supposed to last 500k miles

[@michaelkim15]

@@themoviecapoLiterately, it supposed to be life time? how about degradation of battery then? 300 miles per full charge first year won't be same as after you run 100,000 miles

[@SquidwardTortallini]

@@michaelkim15 they warranty 70% of retention at 100k miles, there are already Teslas out there will 100-500k miles with 70-80% capacity still left, and a few that have had battery replacements, why don't you just look it up yourself?

[@casperhansen826]

7:29 Warranty of battery and drive train is 8 years or 120K miles.

[@michaelkim15]

@@casperhansen826 thank you for your reply. After 70% degradation, it will only accelerates with time. So, no matter how good, you will require replacing at some stage. just wanted to know how much would that be if you factor that in. Regardless, I am very surprised by Tesla battery technologies.

[@j0sh4tran]

The maintenance costs and timeline for the RX350 are grossly inflated.

[@reh.4919]

70% of the difference is in the depreciation estimates.

[@antonnovosselov7762]

Boy is he wrong with current information. Tesla depreciation is crazy!

[@BehonestBestitchedup]

An uncostable item is being forced to drive a slug for 5 years rather than a Cheetah!

[@zihaowang4456]

i love both cars so much. I have rx right now and am thinking to switch to a model Y

[@williamsjayr]

Always a great video, good job. I am in the market now for a new car. I’ve been practically obsessed with Tesla’s since their beginnings. As much as I want to go all in on Tesla...I’m still struck by some things they lack. I see your comparisons and am curious how a Tesla 3 or Y may compare to say a 3 vs Honda Accord or a Y to a CX5. I’ve test driven and Turo’d S’s and 3’s. Tesla’s are amazing cars and their acceleration is addictive...but the quality and in some ways lack of features seem more in line with those “lower” price of cars. Today’s cars are leaps and bounds better than they were 10 years ago. We can all be thankful for that! Maybe autopilots full self driving could be taken out of the mix too? I am wanting the 3 or the Y but I can’t justify the 8k price as it stands now. Thanks for any consideration to these types of comparisons. Keep up with the great content!

[@muffdriver69]

XPeng and NIO have good EV cars that are very competitive to Tesla and cheaper. They are the leading EV manufacturers that are currently rivaling Tesla and has alot more drivers than Tesla. Just waiting for them to come into the European/American market. You might like to check into those too.

[@albertotraversanchis7315]

muy buen video but i think you should muve more when you talk its seems like you are a robot xd love ❤️

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thanks for the feedback.

[@dreamer90ant]

Unfortunately this is not a good review. If anything instead of a model 3/y, a model x numbers should have been used especially seeing how it HAS been on the market for over 5 years. Also there is no base model y that has the same premium base interiors as the Lexus. I love both lexus and Tesla but this video comes off kinda bias

[@fireboltaz]

Do Cyber truck vs F-150

[@horrorfilmscholar]

😂🤣 Who did the numbers for this video!?

[@slerk9]

Well, with a KZbin username like that, he’s bound to be a bit biased.

[@MyUniversalUniversity]

Thanks, always good!!!!

[@surfsideRox]

Thanks for the review! It still has not made me decide which vehicle to purchase. I think one thing left out of the review is what you value your life to be. Tesla has had many fatalities in their vehicles and the alarming one was the gentleman that was killed in Mountain View, California when the autopilot steered the vehicle into the freeway barrier and exploded into flames. He survived the accident, but died of burning to death, because the fire department had trouble extinguishing the flames out due to the batteries. I ended up doing research and found out these batteries are difficult to extinguish after an accident when on fire. Lexus has had 0 fatalities with the Rx model. Yes, 0 in the last six years! I'm still stuck! 😑 Should I buy a Tesla with an overall lower cost of ownership and risk being killed if involved in an accident? Or purchase a really expensive Lexus Rx and have a higher probability of surviving the accident without burning to death. 😩 I still like the Tesla though. I'm so unsure... 😏

[@alienwalk]

I've personally seen many videos of Tesla's Autopilot saving people's lives; I'd bet they've prevented many more accidents than they've caused. Especially for SUV's, one of the biggest dangers at high speeds is rollovers. Though the batteries may be problematic when it comes to fires, they help a LOT with preventing rollovers, since the center of gravity is so low. Tesla makes very safe cars that have unmatched official safety ratings.

[@sat7755]

To me Hybrid cars are just a well concealed gimmick. Or another way for the auto manufacturer to keep the naive motorist under the ICE usage thumb, since they are unable to compete against Tesla pure EV, with a mirage of fuel saving. But when one simply adds up the extra initial cost of an Hybrid over the same car Gas version. and further adds up the extra maintenance costs, due to the fact of its extreme complexity, and the servicing of the ICE plus the EV segment, that will reveal in its entirety far more costly than a gas powered car. If we were to work the math details of the two car version in a space of say 5 years ownership, without any doubt what so ever the Hybrid will reveal itself to have cost at least $12.000 more even taking in account the pittance saving cost of the gasoline. For no other benefits than the illusion of a non existent bargain.

[@Wolfox360]

Funny how the most reliable brand is not considered. Tesla is cheap, until someone doesn't hit in to you. Also the second owner has to buy the Autopilot again, right? And is known that a Lexus WILL last more than 20years and 500000km, Mechanically TESLA should to, but for the rest of the vehicle it's unknown. And a Lexus will not make your country go in a Blackout!! HAHHAHAHAA

[@demultiplexdfunc177]

In my mind, there is only one metric I need to consider - carbon footprint. Keep in mind that cost factors into carbon footprint as well. The more it cost, the more I have to earn to pay for it consequently the more carbon I burn earning that money.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

STOP TALKING NONSENSE, the model Y is not an SUV, wtf!!!!