Tesla Model Y vs BMW X3 Hybrid: 5 Year Ownership Cost Comparison

[@Antontoo]

You must know a trick I'm dying to learn! How do you drive 75,000 miles on X3 without buying new tires?

[@jli213]

$1100 for Model Y tires sounds about right, but what about tires for the X3?

[@Coltn3125]

Just what I was thinking. You have to either not include the tires or include them for both. Also brakes for the X3 and not for the Y as it has regen braking.

[@davidbeppler3032]

Everyone knows BMW tires are $35 each from Walmart.

[@mattbrew11]

Noticed that also. Predicted depreciation is a little murky as well. I’d prefer to have that removed from the analysis

[@geoffhemingway3926]

I love the model Y but I have a major issue with Tesla quality which is something you never address in these videos - the BMW interior for example is far better built than anything Tesla can do as yet (hopefully things will improve in time). Also, nothing is said about range - again the BMW is better in this regard. Don't get me wrong, as I said earlier, I love the model Y and Tesla's in general but I feel you need to be more objective (going through the features of the car that are extra on the BMW is fine but what about the features on the BMW that aren't available on the Tesla?)

[@cbromley562]

Going by our M3 SR+, range and quality, won’t be an issue. Plus you’ll have all the benefits of the Y. I know, it seems too good to be true, but we’re constantly impressed.

[@davidbeppler3032]

Will you buy the extra gas tank for the BMW? Is 900 mile range make it better than 400 mile range? Side by side exact same cars BMW with a huge extra gas tank is better?

[@ferio8019]

BMW definitely has better interior quality, but the interface is so inferior, that most people will just choose tesla right now. To most people, interior quality really isn't that much of the priority, as long as the seat is comfortable. Will be a good mention, but really means very little

[@paultinetti2480]

Ferio Ng Depends on your interior preference. The Tesla is a shift in conventional interior design, it doesn’t make it worse. I personally can’t stand all the buttons and dials we have become accustomed to having in a vehicle. It is refreshing to have that all stripped away to only what is needed. The interiors are not apples to apples... the future is to simplify the driving experience, Tesla has a huge leg up in my opinion. By the way, the model 3 seats are far more comfortable than most other cars. As far as quality, it is very hard for someone to do an unbiased opinion if they can see past the design shift. Tesla may have had quality issues early on, but that is not the case any more.

[@Cleanerwatt]

This was not a feature comparison video, but rather a cost comparison video.

[@santiagocastro4683]

Great video! I wish you included a 10 year overview as a bonus

[@markmorrissey6539]

Fantastic video. Great indepth work. Stats don't lie and all the more reason to tune into future releases . I'm tuned in !

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thanks!

[@rayanshgupta3202]

Model Y will do the same thing to X3 that model 3 did to the bmw 3 series

[@carholic-sz3qv]

bullshit

[@simonewan1]

Best review of BMW X3, so organized and informative

[@alex007ceballos]

Jonathan this is a fair comparison now. I truly enjoyed your video & agree with your findings. Thank you.

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thank you!

[@gsxrOrsi]

5 year? Is BMW X3 30e not a brand new model that can be ordered since December 2019? Because I'm waiting for my own to arrive slowly now :-) How did you go 75,000 miles with this? Or did I misunderstand something?

[@paultinetti2480]

Does the BMW actually have drivers assist ability or just alerts and corrections?

[@pouyam.311]

Great video. Good info

[@robertwegner7993]

500$ for BMW wireless phone charging? Ridiculous! As if it would charge your phone with golden waves! For real I get a wireless phone charger for 5€ from IKEA, plug it into our USB-Port, there you go

[@joejoejoe7691]

Jonathan, , just for grins, I took a ride by my local BMW dealer while sheltered in my car, which dealer is coincidentally about 3 blocks from the Tesla dealership and looked at new 2020 X3s on the lot. Your quoted prices are way low on the X3 since BMW, like Porsche, really juices up the price with individual options. They're more in the high 50s to high $ 60s range in MSRP. Oh, and they're still slower than the Model Y.

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thanks for the info. I was just using the prices from the BMW website. I guess dealers have the ability to adjust those prices...

[@JazzCompAlliance]

There's nothing very premium abbout the model Y's audio system, except it's claim.

[@radiculus27]

Sounds just as good as my former bmw. Maybe better

[@MyUniversalUniversity]

Good work, thanks

[@jeffmwang]

Do you have one with the model y vs the lexus rx

[@heincarpenter]

Nice Toyota background in your cost comparison ;-)

[@emarquez70]

Oh you miss all the tax incentives

[@SSMARKK]

9:40 Why did you use a Toyota RAV4 picture as a background when discussing a BMW X3?

[@Cleanerwatt]

Sorry - that was an accident.

[@lkstaack74]

Wait, why didn't you compare the total cost of ownership between the two? I'm no analyst, but it seems that the MY would be $18,060 less expensive to own over a five year period (assuming 15k miles a year and the other variables that were addressed). Right?

[@gaussdog]

Nice, much better to compare to something like this I’m guessing, based on the purchaser they would probably both attract. I find it extraordinarily interesting that people look at the 0 to 60 performance as some thing related to the cars quality. I think quality is far more telling when you look at The 60 to 0… I don’t care how fast it goes, no one is racing their family car or daily driver around the streets like it’s some kind of a 60s or 70s movie, … Besides the driver is far more of an important part, if you are actually looking at those values. (If you’re racing from a light, he who cheats and hits the gas first is always the winner… ) and furthermore safety is far more of a factor. Why do people buy Volvos? Because they’re perceived as super safe… This should be the number one reasons that Tesla sells cars, although in most cases it won’t be

[@-Tac0caT-]

The 0-60 is an indicator of its fun-to-drive factor. If I am going to spend 65k on a vehicle, it better move. And in Boston, getting on and off interchanges sometimes requires a quick car; but I really just like zooming around. To be fair, though, Tesla also highly advertises its safety features. It has all the sensors and gizzies to warn and protect, which are standard. But yes, 0-60 does not "prove" build quality either. The depreciation factor suggests something, though.

[@SnapHost]

Maybe I missed it, but do BMW need tires change? A true cost of "fuel" can be significantly less for Model Y if charging at free public stations. Or, as in my case, changing at work at no cost to me; companies most likely would not pay for gas though.

[@Cleanerwatt]

I forgot to include the tires for the BMW, but that should add $800 to $1,000 more to the cost.

[@domasbalciunas1821]

Break pads and break fluid not added on tesla for maintainence. This is slightly incorrect.

[@KrisTC]

I like these videos. It would be good to have a playlist of them for easy sharing of the set. Model 3 true cost comparison. Model Y true cost comparison. Thank you

[@Cleanerwatt]

Good idea. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@adasmith7141]

Another awesome 👏 video... Thanks 😊 so much for sharing...

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thank you!

[@loungelizard836]

$500 for a phone charger? That's absolutely nutty!

[@CupidinColorado]

The X3 xdrive30e gets you a $5,836 tax rebate in the USA.. Tesla $0

[@CupidinColorado]

Depreciation is for a non-hybrid model BMW...no?

[@WyattMullin]

Does the X3 not need tire replacement as well?

[@JeanYvesHudon]

It definitely does, I used to own one and tire wear is fast and significant. New tires every 30000 miles

[@davidbeppler3032]

Never. Tires on BMW are lifetime.

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thanks for catching that. Tires for the X3 will be in the same $1,000 price range. I meant to add them, but they got left out.

[@gergohorvath1585]

@@davidbeppler3032 :D

[@ankyanksak]

Very well compared!

[@raymondwong2521]

You left out the X3 M and X3 M Competition. 0-60 in 3.6 seconds and 3.3 seconds respectively.

[@joejoejoe7691]

Raymond Wong no one has gotten 3.3 out of X3M Comp and they're also running $25k more than Model Y. Oh, and let's talk reliability and maintenance. BMW oil change, give me your left kidney. Alignment and rotation, right kidney. Need brakes, first born child. The Model Y is lucky if it'll ever see a stealership. The only thing the Model Y will ever need is tyres from that prodigious torque. BMW, junk!

[@mattbrew11]

JoeJoe Joe You’re too far into the fan boy realm. Tesla’s are not impervious to problems. BMW is a flaming bag of shit but Tesla doesn’t make a perfect car

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@mattbrew11 agree with you , these tesla fanboys are retarded

[@sergeyscobich]

Thanks for the numbers: For Model Y you took 34% of depreciation, according to kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6e3l6WkZr-iZtk it's around 60k miles. BMW have 43% of depreciation at this miles. In your calculations you came up with 22100$ difference. If you calculate correctly the depreciation for BMW the difference would be only 8300$ from which 5000$ is for fuel. So Model Y is 1200$ cheaper per year than BMW. It would be good to see how you calculate the fuel cost.

[@peigensun7923]

How about the tax credit?

[@murali1790able]

Insurance for Tesla Model Y is way more than X3, atleast 400 less per year. Also BMW comes with larger life than tesla.

[@davidbeppler3032]

You did not add FSD to the BMW. This comparison is not even close. FSD adds $7k to the Model Y and $2.4 billion to the BMW!

[@Cleanerwatt]

Haha! love it

[@photogol]

good analysis!

[@Cleanerwatt]

Thank you!

[@dmitrii336]

Thanks for your analysis. As a business owner I'm very excited of Tesla TCO. Hope they'll come to Russia next year (when Giga Berlin will be complete).

[@markswan9148]

excellent...and legacy auto makers need to write off at least 50pc of their obsolete assets.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

moron

[@GetOutsideYourself]

Where are the tires for the X3? Also, the probability of a repair on the X3 is quite high, which has been my BMW ownership experience. And $1400 for 2 years of maintenance is quite optimistic. Realistically, you should double that.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

nonsense, the maintenance is covered by bmw for many years

[@andrep99]

Deprecation of only 34% over 5 years seem very unrealistic for any car.

[@79bnice]

Lets be honest. BMW has had issues with being reliable, ask any BMW owner who is honest. Something electrical will go out in a short period of ownership.

[@andreasioannou5674]

79bnice Thanks not at all true! I had 7 BMWs and never had any issues, pleasure to drive and with excellent built quality... Built quality and decent interior quality is something Tesla have to improve if they are to stay competitive...

[@radiculus27]

@@andreasioannou5674 you my friend is a unicorn. I have owned two and all my friends have similar problems. You can’t be saying that with a straight face. The only thing I can say is maybe you owned non turbo bmws. All my friends and myself only owned turbo bmws and they all gave expensive problems in and out of warranty. I was a bmw fanboy, no more. Beautiful / awesome performing expensive to maintain unreliable garbage. I have literally seen bmw garages bring grown man to tears. Tears when they get hit with out of warranty work. That’s why so many Tesla owners like myself were former bmw guys. You dumping money into bmw (premium gas at that) with repair and maintenance bills thought the roof. No more. My wallet loves the Tesla. Add solar power and I am great. Sorry for the long winded reply just angry when I see bmw owners look at Tesla and act like they don’t see the crap bmw puts out. I rather fix panel gaps than transmission and engine issues.

[@paultinetti2480]

For anyone trying to compare features of these cars, keep in mind the Tesla will continuously getting new features automatically for free throughout its entire life. Don’t get caught thinking a BMW has more features than a Tesla. They each have some the other car does not, but only one of these cars will continue to get more ;)

[@fadyshafik]

you just say the price in MSRP BUT how about the fedral tax and state tax we can get if we buy BMW !!!!! its a lot but TESLA NO

[@mattbrew11]

Sounds like paying cash for a 1-2 year old model Y is the smartest investment one can make into a compact SUV

[@geoffhemingway3926]

That's what I'm hoping to do. It will be three or four years away though as we won't even get the model Y in the UK until next year at the earliest. At least they should have sorted a lot of the quality issues by then.

[@carholic-sz3qv]

nonsense, how is the model y a SUV when it doesnt even have ground clearance or air suspensions, stop talking bullshit

[@raymondwong2521]

BTW, the glass roof of the Model Y, you can only see through it. You cannot open it. No matter how your friends ask can you open the glass roof, you cannot open it. Good luck with any choices you make (in life).

[@mattbrew11]

Raymond Wong that’s because it’s structural making it far safer than the BMW

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@mattbrew11 nonsense

[@mattbrew11]

Le Chat Botté you think a piece of glass that is built to structural standards isn’t safer than a piece of glass that’s much lighter weight and design to protect against the weather? LMAO

[@carholic-sz3qv]

@@mattbrew11 nonsense, im talking about real things not a stupid piece of glass

[@mattbrew11]

Le Chat Botté the glass in the model Y is structure trying learning it’s good for you

[@IReapZz95]

where is the real x3 M in the comparison in addition to the baby M340i?!?!?!?!

[@bskeerthi7390]

The x3 comes with a $7500 rebate that must be included.

[@Lvlaple4Ever]

You forgot to mention the way better design and quality control, better materials, brand recognition and advertising, much longer range and that electric chargers are still nowhere as abundant as gas stations for the BMW. And those depreciation claims look bullshit, one of the highest depreciating SUVs when it’s one of their top sellers and not even considered high-end yet which are the fastest cars to depreciate? I like Tesla’s technologies but you have no idea what traditional car buyers really cares about.

[@Cross-xm2fr]

Worst of both worlds