Tesla Unveils CYBERCAB & RoboVAN! 🤯

[@ayresmajor6811]

Don't forget that model 3 and Y are also "robotaxi" so for bigger trips you just cold get a model 3 or Y. But for city is the cybercab

[@zuazaa]

Or cybertruck

[@jamespaul2587]

Nothing's a robotaxi yet as supervision is required and regulatory approval could take years

[@Dexion845]

Model 3 on a long trip is uncomfortable. Y I think might be better (source: passengers who ride in my Chevy Bolt)

[@smvballer6]

@@jamespaul2587obviously bruh

[@HwangInhoBooNam]

@@zuazaacybertruck for city? Transportation for only passengers why such a large vehicle? What for?

[@M0j0]

This would have been the £25k model 2 if they hadn't gone down the autonomous taxi route... I would have preferred a driveable version of this than what they decided to go with.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

The Aptera with the smaller battery is supposed to cost 25 k$, just buy one.

[@jamespaul2587]

​@@didierpuzenat7280Aptera has ongoing delays also, still years away from volume production with much higher price than promised

[@garrukthewildspeaker262]

@@didierpuzenat7280 the range sucks there

[@HansMilling]

Listen to his last thoughts. They will launch it with steering wheel and pedals. They just won’t tell anyone to not cannibalise the sales of model 3/Y the next two years.

[@jonevansauthor]

@@didierpuzenat7280 The Aptera is an enormous vehicle. Totally useless in 80% of the planet, in case you haven't realised. Doesn't have Tesla software. No proof they can build yet, even if it looks promising. But sure, totally equivalent. Not like comparing an electric bike to this vehicle at all.

[@eamonshields2754]

As far as charging… I don’t think the robotaxi would accept rides where the range of the destination exceeds the range of the cab. When battery drops to certain level the cab would go charge up then returns to the field.

[@PandaKnight52]

I don't want private public transport. I want public transport. Taxi's have always sucked these could make up last mile to connect people to public transport. But there are probably better solutions for that.

[@craighermle7727]

Don't worry. You don't have it now, even though "you" were supposed to have it at least 4 years ago "You" won't have it for at least 4-5 years.

[@0HOON0]

It will never happen in the US now that we've imported multiple feral underclasses. Even the people who loudly agree with you won't actually subject themselves to that.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

I use public transport everyday, and the key point is to have not just buses but many options : walking on large sidewalks, bikes on secured bake lanes, electric buses, trolley buses, tramways, metros, trains, and (robot) taxis. When I take the train with a suitcase, or when my 85 years mother has to go somewhere in the city, a (robot) taxi makes quite more sense than a bus or a bicycle.

[@Wirmish]

Public transport in the middle of a pandemic is so fun...

[@giovannifoulmouth7205]

public transport sucks major ass and I live in the country with the best public transport (Switzerland), it's expensive as hell, it doesn't get me to my exact destination (like a car) and good luck carrying your weekly groceries on foot between bus and train stations. You might just be a bigger moron than Musk and Trump if you think current public transport is better than private auto.

[@radunegoescu1828]

Drew, Induction charging is a must for the robotaxi model to work. It’s autonomous, hence no person to plug in a cord. It will drive itself to induction charge station and be ready to be summoned by people after it’s charged. All robotaxi, within a defined region ,can all coordinate for a time slot needed to charge . Imagine that a charging station in theory can be used almost every minute of the day in this model. Very efficient use for autonomous operation.

[@Retired.at.40.Bored.at.50]

They will have to add a charge port for the 25k car.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

Or just buy a induction charger to install on the floor of your garage or driveway.

[@theproffessional9]

​@@didierpuzenat7280and supercharging??

[@didierpuzenat7280]

@@theproffessional9 Not sure such robot taxis are designed to make 3+ hours trips. In 10 years maybe, and then maybe one lane of all highways will include induction coils, at least when it is convenient or when more power is needed. But sure, you can always add functionalities, but then the vehicle costs more.

[@jamespaul2587]

​@@didierpuzenat728030k price quoted isn't cheap for such a small car and actual price will be higher

[@jonevansauthor]

@@didierpuzenat7280 not necessary. Induction in car parking spaces. It drives you until the battery is dead. For a long journey it stops somewhere for lunch, you have lunch, and you get in a different vehicle leaving that one charging. This was a problem solved by horse driven coaches in Europe hundreds of years ago, just change horses.

[@daneomegan]

The answer to every question you ask: Everything you saw today was a movie prop. The cab, the van even the robots it was all theatre...

[@Jay-eb7ik]

so... short the stock and you'll make a lot of money. if not, you're just running your mouth. put your money where your mouth is. dare you?

[@salecousin5470]

@@Jay-eb7ik ITS A MUST SHORT - all in move

[@Jay-eb7ik]

@@salecousin5470 man of his word

[@LogicbyDesign]

@@Jay-eb7ikyou seen the market no one is buying musk smoke and mirrors act anymore

[@enigma-8u]

The cars were real and so was the bus. You don't make 21 prototypes without covering a lot of engineering and manufacturing groundwork. As for the self-driving piece, that will happen next year and evidence of it is already available to drive today in any Tesla running the latest FSD. Optimus was just theater though. But I can forgive that since they now have competition copying them.

[@javiervf14]

For two passengers I would rather have the Aptera. Seems Tesla is actually falling behind to Aptera.

[@planetmuskvlog3047]

Under 30k dude… don’t be cheap. The car will make money without you in it. They said 25k 5000 dollars worth of inflation ago

[@routine8]

No specs at all. No information about sensors. Is that stainless steel? Really, Tesla is many many years from making any of the toys shown tonight.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

The "sensors" are just cameras. And who cares the size of the battery 2 or 3 years before production ? Idem for the material, steel, aluminium, plastic, who cares ? It was about autonomy not about the cars. Do you ask the driver the size if the battery when you ride a taxi ? Or the resolution of rear camera ?

[@jamespaul2587]

Exactly, this was a lame display on a fully mapped lot

[@routine8]

@@didierpuzenat7280 you are assuming the sensors are only cameras. Tesla has discussed adding radar. And lots of very smart people believe that cameras alone are not adequate for Level 5 autonomy. So, your assumption is not helpful, and Tesla's information-void presentation isn't helpful either.

[@didierpuzenat7280]

@@routine8 It is clear that Tesla will not use radars or LiDAR, Musk repeats all the time that FSD is vision only. And billions of humans drive cars using vision, not radars or LiDAR.

[@DailySource]

The fan boy who made this video falsely claims there were humanoid robots walking around. those robots are not anywhere close to being humanoid. What a joke.

[@bryce3377]

Elon says prototypes are easy. Cybercab is a prototype.

[@TecnamTwin]

All twenty of them. That's quite a few.

[@stephensullivan1011]

I agree homie... We'll see.

[@craighermle7727]

@@TecnamTwin And none will be near anything approaching production for at least 2 Elon years. So you can come up with your own timeline.

[@craighermle7727]

@@TecnamTwin remote controlled by men in black with cellphone in their hands

[@didierpuzenat7280]

@@craighermle7727 Sure, as all the Teslas using FSD on the road, an army of people working in secret in India for Tesla ! It seams a quite reasonable hypothesis 🙄.

[@anton_grahn]

Cybercab is kind of a VW XL1/Mercedes Vision EQXX/BMW i3 (with the skinny wheels) combo, really like it! Looks really optimised for the taxi use case. The i3 had 175/55 R20 so a bit narrower but pretty similar!

[@MaxPowers1245]

None of this will ever see production. Not a chance.

[@johnlynch301]

First time watcher. I regularly follow more than a half dozen Tesla bloggers but hadn't seen yours before today. Good information in general and you raise some good questions. You draw some conclusions that don't make sense to me but I wish you well..

[@alcatrazlongboards9257]

I’d buy the Cybercab immediately for 35k if it had a steering wheel

[@didierpuzenat7280]

So just buy a model 3. Or wait for the so called "model 2" ie provably a low cost model 3 since it makes no sense for Tesla to develop and produce a new vehicle while they can produce an entry level model 3 for almost the same price.

[@alcatrazlongboards9257]

@@didierpuzenat7280 I own a Model 3

[@jamespaul2587]

35k is too expensive for a small 2 seat vehicle with no chargeport and limited range

[@conniesexton8782]

15:35

[@jonevansauthor]

@@didierpuzenat7280 you've missed the point of 2 seater cars I think. The only reason the Model 3 would be a replacement you might as well get, is if it's the same length as this robotaxi prototype. Otherwise, 2 seater beats 3+ seater any time that you don't want 3 or more seats. Which for lots of us is.... *checks notes* never. I would never want 3+ seats in the predictable future. Why carry around extra seats? There's simply no reason to do so.

[@Dr.Gehrig]

I both hope and suspect the "Model 2" is a just a cybercab modified for human use ie added a wheel, pedals, mirrors, and hopefully chargeport. As weird as it might be for no chargepoint planned I AM glad that Tesla is finally leading the charge on bringing inductive charging to the market. However, I do agree with you that they should at least offer a solar option. These seem well suited to that.

[@davidricardo86]

Maybe the wireless induction charging pad comes included with the Robotaxi and it connects to the NACS cable at any Supercharger? No need to deploy a whole new induction pad network for retail customers? Kinda like how I can buy a USB-C wireless charging pad for my phone and use it with my existing USB-C charger base I already own. The Robotaxi reminds me of a 2 door coupe Model Y with Cybertruck DNA.

[@TailosiveEV]

So every time I need to charge I have to get out of the car, grab a charge mat, line it up, then tell the taxi to back over it? Sounds… fun

[@davidricardo86]

@@TailosiveEV maybe, we'll learn more about this as the information becomes available. I suppose a wireless Supercharger network could be the alternative. What other alternatives are there?

[@tipoomaster]

Why aren't more people asking this - were ANY of the Cybercab and Optimus demos last night actually autonomous using FSD, or were they preprogrammed and remote operated respectively? The clips of Optimus at the bar clearly seemed like human operation

[@TailosiveEV]

I mentioned in the video the bots were human controlled

[@MrRandomguyTom]

Everything was pre-programmed, pre-mapped and staged in closed controlled environment. It was all only a fake show for shareholders

[@LogicbyDesign]

@@MrRandomguyTomNd😂 that didn’t even work stock is dropping by 6.8 this morning 😂 not a good start

[@jonevansauthor]

@@LogicbyDesign that's fantastic for investors. Buy more shares.

[@MegaLokopo]

Why would inductive charging have to be slow? Wireless charging has no upper limit on charging speed. Oneplus phones charge faster wirelessly than most phones charge with a cable.

[@NextGenEvs]

Roadster deposits were $50K. Not a quarter mil. But agreed, Roadster is long overdue

[@TailosiveEV]

Foundation series Roadsters required $250k deposits. 1000 people bought them

[@jonevansauthor]

@@TailosiveEV I've zero sympathy for them to be fair, and honestly, if I wanted that vehicle, I'd just want whatever ridiculous supercar they came up with and wouldn't want to be told a Roadster 2 was coming in three years after that. Plus anyone who gets 1 of 1,000 may end up with a classic car thirty years from now. Plus they're too rich to care about money things happening to them - I'd feel sympathetic if they got the flu or were made to watch Gone with the Wind by their kids or something. ;)

[@Joe-420-69]

Under 30k for a robotaxi. A car that you can use as long as you need then it can go out and earn you money. Also there are 100kw wireless chargers available today, adding charging pads to the existing superchargers especially version 4 will be quite easy. They have been working on wireless charging for a while and will have allowed for this in all version 4 superchargers.

[@ccibinel]

Why they would sell them if they work and have regulatory approval makes no sense. If the cabs can operate without anyone it wont actually make sense for tesla to ever sell them. Everyone currently paying for FSD is helping tesla create a future where personal vehicle ownership is completely done.

[@chopsueykungfu]

Keep on dreaming

[@DailySource]

@@chopsueykungfu yes this commentor has been tricked by Elon into believing it will cost 30,000. It will be 50% or 100% higher than that. Another musk lie and scam.

[@smvballer6]

Robovan looks like I robot when the robots came out of those tunnels

[@jonevansauthor]

Yes, except unlike the writers of the film 'I, robot' Elon Musk has, I'd guess, read I, Robot and is aware of the lessons within. For instance, he'd know that Susan Calvin wouldn't need a police officer with a robot arm to defeat a robot. She'd just tell it something, and it would die on the spot.

[@jimj2683]

I like how the sidewalls on the tires are also painted to give the impression of larger wheels. Good design trick.

[@johndinsdale1707]

I really don't think this is a product to scale, its a 20 vehicle showcase. Cabs designed for cities (see London Cabs) are designed for 1-5 passengers and that's with a driver. Inductive charging is a logistical nightmare and also very hard to make efficient beyond 20 KW/h. Why also does it need to be streamlined its not going far. Why not build up? The 'Van' concept is also mad, it will never get approval as shown.

[@mehersam9486]

All the model y’s and 3s also can become robotaxis, to fit your use case, not just cyber cab, I am with you on the van design though

[@artboymoy]

Yes, Aptera panels and Tesla join forces... I think that the cab would know where you want to go and the system would not give you a vehicle that would need to be recharged en route. IMO, like the robots someone's in the backroom with an X Box controller driving the cabs. oh and the van is really doing to need more windows. People like to see where they may be going.

[@eamonshields2754]

Why would a large screen on a robo taxi be a safety concern? The humans aren’t driving 😂

[@noway8233]

People gone destroy it as soon they can😅

[@CharliePryor]

If it comes in at $29,990… and the tax credits are still in place = sub $25K. There ya go. ;)

[@NextGenEvs]

I still want a CyberQuad!

[@rashad123us]

*This is NEVER coming out* 😂

[@geraldg350]

They said that about every tesla car Tesla roadster, model x, model s, I remember guys like you saying the cyber truck will never be built now it's this and roadster 2.

[@westsailsmusic]

@@geraldg350Don’t forget about SpaceX .. they’ll never reuse a rocket 😂

[@geraldg350]

@@westsailsmusic Even before reusable rockets they said Elon could build rockets and he will go bankrupt, it's amazing they have been telling him for 20-30yrs that this or that is impossible and he does and they still keep doing it for 30 f****g years! These idiots will be the npc's being laughed at 100yrs from now when people are talking about Musk.

[@MegaLokopo]

Nothing ever comes out until it does. Never is a very long time.

[@JayCAlan]

Yep, along with the Cybertruck in my garage. Never gonna happen.

[@hermanmoreno9217]

Great job reviewing the event.

[@MilosevicOgnjan]

Elon talked multiple times why solar roof is usless for compact EV's - the area is so small it would generate only a few kilometers of range daily exposed to direct summer sun. For big vehicles, like buses and even planes, it could potentially make sense. For cars - not really.

[@Chamieiniibet]

Aptera does well with solar though

[@MilosevicOgnjan]

@@Chamieiniibet It does up to 40 miles of recharging range on a sunny day, with nearly a scooter sized chasie, and probably less than half the weight, hardly any storage space, so not really comparable to a cybercab.

[@TailosiveEV]

Aptera has 32 cubic feet of storage space and is wider than a cybertruck. Its honestly quite similar to the CyberCab

[@MilosevicOgnjan]

@@TailosiveEVTruth be told I haven't really read the specs for Aptera, but when I saw the videos and images to me it looked more like an enclosed tricycle scooter.

[@TailosiveEV]

Nope. Far more capable with 400 miles of range, fast charging and solar charging

[@Startrance85]

As a person that dont even own any Tesla shares i am now in the process to buy some Tesla shares. 30K for a RoboTaxi, that Optimus robot, that small mini van buss thingy. Everything looking good and futuristic.

[@jamespaul2587]

Actual production will be many years away

For some reason the Tesla shares are dropping pre market opening. You are in luck

[@LogicbyDesign]

For some reason? Don’t buy this Tesla pump crap it’s going to tank by next quarter

[@garrukthewildspeaker262]

They promised Cybertruck for 45k with 500 miles of range in 2019. When it's release, it's twice as expensing and has less range and released only in 2024.

[@jzen1455]

@@LogicbyDesign More like a dump and dump.

[@thegroovypatriot]

Good review, thanks.

[@stevenschmidt]

Apparently there have been demonstrations of 1 MW wireless inductive charging speeds. So, I don't think there's a charging speed issue using wireless charging, if done right.

[@stellan75]

Because of the same reason that cars do not use 48V batteries or something like that :-) Just search on KZbin and you’ll find information around it. Oslo wireless charging :-) Like Apple is not first with much but since they are so big things changes when they change :-)

[@lou7139]

I liked the event! The designs are nice! I was disappointed, though, only because the cybercab isn't coming next year. It is going to be 2-3 years before we see it in mass production. Guess the M3 and MY will have to serve as the robotaxis until the dedicated model comes out. Unsupervised FSD coming next year sounds good though!

[@TecnamTwin]

Could be here in a year and a half.

[@Nathan-ty6fd]

for Home charging it probably won't be that much of a problem. they probably will have an Induction charger coil that the Tesla power connector can just plug into

[@graysonsmith7031]

There will ALWAYS be a need for parking for the same reason there is rush hour traffic. People don't need to drive at random times of the day. The majority of the driving is to work in the morning, lunch, leaving work, and dinner. Also what about holiday traffic? Either you need more than enough cars in order to cover your busiest times or you need to miss out some on the busiest times.

[@fredrik3685]

The smart thing with a bus is that many people can travel in the same vehicle. That means less traffic on the streets. Sounds simple when you hear it but it sure takes s genius to figure it out. Elon is a super hero!

[@KM_Mountain]

That's bait☝lol

[@oggyoggy1299]

You think someone would have invented a bus before now.

[@vargland458]

@@KM_MountainI’m taking the bait. Trains.

[@richard--s]

A bus means multiple stops in a city and that slows down the ride seriously to bicycle average speed. I have seen that very often as I was taking a public bus to school (not a school bus). Having only one stop at the beginning and one at the end would be way faster. Yes, the traffic lights... but many busses have the bus stops additionally to the traffic lights...

[@YTad2]

I’m a quadriplegic and use a power wheelchair… I want that van option so badly. It would only need to be about 1/3 the size of that or a smaller cube size, for singular wheelchair use.

[@grinblurnar]

Wouldn’t be too hard to add an inductive charging plate in every supercharging space. But depends how fast it charges… don’t want to use a supercharger space if it’s only charging via induction slowly so has to sit there for an hour.

[@ofirgranot]

I was very impressed of it all - the CyberTaxi design & features, the cybervan design and the Optimus development progress. Timeline should be very good assuming we will not experience another Covid world disruption period

[@LogicbyDesign]

Elon bot detected

[@ofirgranot]

@@LogicbyDesignIf you didn't understand Tesla so far then look at SpaceX and learn how to make huge dreams come true

[@implodingbaby]

Yeah but where is the roadster?

[@danharold3087]

Elon Musk reiterates that the ‘forever coming next’ next-gen Tesla Roadster will go into production in 2025. So too early to be asking again at this point. But then I expect it to arrive when it makes sense for Tesla.

[@craighermle7727]

or 100% autonomous FSD and driverless Teslas. Oh yeah, that's now called 100% supervised FSD and you pay $8k to supervise a computer driving your car. I don't know what his drug of choice is, but he needs to tone it down.

[@craighermle7727]

@@danharold3087 What? Are the guys that put down 50k or paid for it outride getting interest on money Musk has been using?

[@danharold3087]

@@craighermle7727 You have a bad case of ELON BAD there craig. The people who put $50K down and did not want to wait for the car got the money back. Tesla will refund on request. As for people paying to help develop FSD some will proudly tell their grandchildren how they help to develop cars that drive themselves. People with the engineering or inventor gene love it. Different strokes for different folks.

[@jamespaul2587]

​​nope. Terms and conditions specifically stated no interest was being paid. Founders Series required full payment within 10 days of preorders

[@HansMilling]

Look at what price of fhe Model 3 and Y was a few years ago and how far it has come down, due to high volume.

[@JD-kk6cl]

Tesla can use M3 and MY for long distances, and for the inductive charging stations, Tesla can have 4-8 stations for each corner of each city The above might solve the charging and cost of contructing the charging stations

[@battery_wattage]

I’m not even a tall person and I find M3 back seats uncomfortable.

[@JD-kk6cl]

@@battery_wattage not sure about M3, but it is quite comfortable for MY

[@battery_wattage]

@@JD-kk6cl MY is definitely something I could sit for hours as a backseat passenger.

[@techyjames1945]

What got me from the presentation was where Elon said at time frame 1:06:40 “The Model 3 and Y’s and S and X we make today will be capable Full Autonomy unsupervised.” He then added almost like a side thought the CyberTruck. That kind of indicates that new cars are likely getting AI 5, but we won’t be able to tell the difference of AI5 cars versus AI4 cars.

[@jamespaul2587]

Does anyone recall whether the concept / prototype Boring Company vehicle revealed long ago resembles the new autonomous van / bus, as it seems very familiar to me?

[@CyberFridge]

To answer your question at 8:57 about the extra processing and distributed compute: This isn't the first time Elon mentioned using the car's computer for extra processing as a way to earn money for the owner. He's been mentioning it for at least the past 18 months or so on multiple occasions. The idea is that while the car is sitting in your garage charging and having access to high speed Wi-Fi for example, its processor could be "rented out" by third parties or xAI for example to do some processing if you opt in that program. I'd imagine it would be a revenue share type of model.

[@TailosiveEV]

I remember on the earnings calls. I just thought there was no point in bringing up at this event. Felt very out of place

[@CyberFridge]

@@TailosiveEV Fair point. I don't know, maybe it's just me but Elon seem a bit tired last night. Less energetic than I've seen him at other product launches anyway. It also seemed as thought he skipped a bunch of stuff they initially planned talking about. I wonder if they had a strict deadline of be done by X time with the event and due to the roughly 45 minute delay due to the medical emergency, he might not have bothered mentioning some of the stuff, or maybe it threw him off a little. You rightfully pointed out that there was a lot more info on the slides after all. So maybe Elon decided to cut some stuff out of the presentation to make sure people still had the time to get the rides in. Just speculating...

[@111R-f8c]

When I was in the Bay Area, there was a taxi company called Waymo running autonomously there already. I use it a number of times and thought it was well executed.

[@kellyjohnson4578]

Wireless charging means hotter battery temps so that’s 9:36 not a reason. I’m confused about it being wireless: battery degradation, slower recharge and no infrastructure to utilize

[@Cyberwolfman]

Finally a fully electric van in the USA that will hold more than 6 people

[@sereth1738]

hey drew! i just want to say, thank you for reporting on all tesla news without being an elon glazer. im someone who loves tesla and their engineers mission statements, as well as space x, nueralink, boring co, solar etc. but i hate that elon has become the face of all this great futuristic and innovative technology due to his politics and views on humans who are a little bit more different than us or not come from where we’re from. and i see a lot of people who are excited for this future, feel themselves having to defend and ride for elon no matter what (tesla time news) i guess im saying drew, thanks for sticking to the news instead of riding elon and his politics. ill say it once and again. imma tesla fan boy damn it, not an elon simp!

[@nostrx450]

The cybertruck design didn’t dramatically change. The specs aren’t what they promised, but the design is pretty much what they unveiled. No 6 seats and some small things were different, but overall it looks the same.

[@antonzadorozhniy6605]

I’m not an American, so maybe someone could explain to me, why the excitement about cab design, isn’t it a worst possible one? I thought purpose built taxis should be like London cabs or NV200: vertical seating, plenty of cabin space to walk in with luggage, easy entry/exit. This looks like my MX-5, why is it a good taxi car?

[@sociolocomtsac]

Americans don't know about trains/buses, either. I live in Korea and already have cheap self-driving no-congestion transport, aka the metro/subway.

[@TailosiveEV]

We do, our culture just prefers having our own vehicle cause we’re much more spread out. Btw South Koreans bought over 1.7 million cars last year and are buying more cars than years prior

[@antonzadorozhniy6605]

@@TailosiveEV but as a taxi cab, does this design make sense to you? Last time I've been in NYC, I had NV200 ride, it's fine vehicle for a cab, and it's not even purpose built. It's hard to imagine that Cybercab will be replacing those, maybe complimenting.

[@adaptivetech8165]

Something called Waymo exists and has for like 3 years now and it does everything this does…. So why is this so revolutionary??

[@robertgtm]

I understand the worry but we have no clue how fast it’s gonna charge with the wireless charging. My phone charges about the same speed with usb-c and wireless charging. I don’t doubt they can solve the issue

[@romeurei89]

8:10 spoke with a tesla engineer about the wheel sizes being larger in the back (21") vs front (18") to lower the rolling wheel resistance and to give it better stance.

[@joe55514]

I see no problem at all for an adapter from Nacs inductive charging

[@ecospider5]

The fact you don’t understand the extra processing power statement is surprising. Right now data center compute is creating a power problem. A car with a computer in it that stays parked at home can charge from 1-4 pm with cheep excess power from solar on the grid. Then use that electricity over the next 20 hours doing bitcoin mining and AI computing with a processor that was sitting doing nothing. This is such an obvious feature I’m mad my current model Y doesn’t already do it.

[@TailosiveEV]

It’s cause doing it all remotely isn’t that helpful to the companies that need it. Otherwise they’d be doing it now. Too much latency between vehicles opposed to having a big internal system

[@ecospider5]

Do you remember the SETI project back in the early 2000’s. When you have a calculation that is going to take more than 24 hours to complete that can be broken up and given to 30 computers to do in one hour. That is what they found out with the seti project. But building the control software is not easy because you have to know what you are calculating to code that. They need a specific AI compute problem to throw at the system. Or they need to recode some digital coin miners to work on their processor. Then they can get paid for using the compute power. And they pass most of that money on to the vehicle owner. The vehicle owner has to decide if what they get paid is worth the cost of the electricity to run the processor.

[@ecospider5]

At the 4 minute mark in this video she talks about the distributed computing kzbin.info/www/bejne/pWnHl3igotWShrs I actually worked with this concept 2 decades ago so i can see how this would work. But Anastasi is a chip designer so way more technical than i am. She said “yes it could be useful” but she also said it’s going to be a stretch. Which I’m surprised by. But i have to differ to her current expertise.

[@blindfaith8777]

The surface area isn't enough to provide meaningful charge. If you could get 1 square meter of solar panels on there, you could get like 200 watts of charging power, and that's generous. With that much power would take 10 hours to get 2kWh of charge.

[@TailosiveEV]

Would be more like 400-500 watts but even 2kWh per day would be over 5K free miles per year

[@songyop]

The robovan was probably driven by a warehouse robotic pallet mover underneath with the covering hiding what's underneath. It's obviously only a concept mockup shell, just to add a content to the event.

[@riden30]

Crazy idea: what if at intersections and common traffic-stop areas, they had sections of the road that inductively charged? So as you pull to a light maybe an indicator on your dash would indicate when you’ve got a good position and you could get a little bit of power back as you just drive around normal? Also extend this to parking lots? So as you go shop or eat you get some power back as well? And it wouldn’t take much away from existing infrastructure and allow ICE cars to still exist in the same spaces with no issues?

[@TailosiveEV]

Extremely expensive. It would be like installing a wall connector every 5 feet

[@AlphaDewolf]

I have a good feeling these vehicles won’t travel and operate far outside of major cities. I’ll keep driving my car myself thank you very much! Also, they do need NACS. Every EV needs NACS!

[@enigma-8u]

Even if the car is parked the doors don't matter because people could summon the car before getting in or be dropped off before the car parks itself.

[@rml695]

As it stands, if one day this does happen (a city full of cybercabs and robo vans), that would be huge for people whose disabilities prevent them from legally being able to drive. :-) I’m super pumped. :-)

[@shanep.7184]

Anyone know if other robotaxis have automated doors?

[@jeffharmed1616]

Perhaps the lack of specific Cybercab information is because they were incomplete.

[@MrRandomguyTom]

Short pre-programmed ride on pre-mapped road in controlled and closed environment. Wow, amazing success 🎉😂

[@jzen1455]

See successful $LYFT and $UBER shot up 10% today

[@sethpascale1098]

I heard from Top Gear that it should go 5 miles per kWh and that it supposedly has a 200 mile range, so sounds like a 40kWh pack

[@brentsmith-d8h]

Regarding cars driving off and just coming back when needed. What if you have something in the car? What if you are shopping, and leave stuff in the trunk when you go to a restaurant? What if you want to go somewhere after work, and have stuff required for that in your trunk? Unfortunately, parking lots with be with us for a long time to come; and yes, I hate this more than most people.

[@Victic005]

It was a great event. Does that meant current vehicles can have unsupervised FSD in the future?

[@truhartwood3170]

Inductive charging should be just as fast and efficient as cable charging. Google Chalmers, they made a 500kW wireless charger with 2m surface area and a 15cm air gap at over 98% efficiency. Solar panels don't add that much range. Will save you a single minute at a charger. A $25k car with FSD for $4k would be $29k. Looks like they are going full autonomous only and including FSD with no pedal or steering wheel option. That's the future - steering wheels and pedals will go the way of ashtrays and cassette players.

[@TailosiveEV]

Solar charging is for passive charging, wether you're on the road. At work, parked at the airport, you're always charging. Rather than having to go out of your way to route to one. Many can't charge from home

[@truhartwood3170]

@@TailosiveEV that makes sense

[@princeofexcess]

solar power is likely a cost thing. sure you can have cheaper energy but cost of deployment is extremely important. Robotaxi should be as cheap as possible.

[@mike168168]

I like the design of both the taxi and the van… kind of a 80s sci-fi retro vibe.

[@harriettanthony7352]

The van/bus is right from the Art Deco Era- some designer knows his Schools!

[@jeremypmerrill]

It's the bastard love-child of the roadster and the cybertruck.

[@js2009-g9f]

I guess one of the reasons no charging port is it’s hard to automatically plugin and unplug… however that seem to be easy to change that design decision… and the best way is to replace batteries similar to how Chinese EVs are doing… 5 mins to full charge

[@matthewp1682]

If cybercab was sold as a regular with pedals and steering wheel it would sell so good

[@ObserverZero]

And your idea that kind of "the new model tanks the sales of the former model" is a problem for a company? A company's newest model tanking the sales of their former model happens kind of a lot. That's why older models are discontinued in production as soon as the new model hits the stores

[@ripvanstinkle]

Great point about them removing the glass roof, why would they do that???

[@TailosiveEV]

Some claim it saves on cost but I don't think it's that simple. Glass is actually a much fast assembly process than having addition interior materials, followed by body panels and paint for a body roof. But I think it has more to do with reducing weight and also reducing the amount of cabin heat generated from sitting in the sun

[@timkeklinker]

Hear me out, give the robotaxi a retractable steering wheel, a charge port with 100kW charging and this thing will be a giant success. It looks to be VERY efficient but ... ummm ... guess what ... people want to DRIVE their cars lol

[@garrukthewildspeaker262]

Well, I don't. And I hate driving. Driving sucks. Especially in big cities from a red light to a red light. And it's also dangerous. You're literally sitting in a 3 tonns metal box that can easily kill a person if you make any mistake. I'd rather enjoy a youtube video or a book instead of driving it.

[@EVANHIRSCHMANG]

teslas arent for people who enjoy driving at all

[@samanthashoemaker5908]

@@EVANHIRSCHMANG😂

[@jonevansauthor]

I don't. I might enjoy being driven to a racetrack, and driving someone else's car. I'd rather have the money and be able to read a book without having to share a vehicle with another human being. :)

[@tariq3077]

My guess, bigger tires means less drag around the wheels. Top speed probably 55mph made for city driving only.

[@shawngrinter2747]

My first thought is if there is no “driving seat” why are the seats facing forwards? It is well known that rear facing seats are *much* safer in the case of a shunt (the majority of which in driven cars are front shunts) . Elon could have done something revolutionary here.

[@caldodge]

Rear facing seats give motion sickness to some people.

[@Kukaboora]

You will not have FSD until the DOJ current criminal investigation on FSD false advertising is concluded. Furthermore, all law suits regarding fatal accidents attributable to FSD will have to be settled also. According to Josh Brown, a renowned stock analyst on CNBC Half Time Report with Scott Walker, Tesla robotaxis will not be in 4-10 years. That was why Josh Brown bets on Uber. Just some different opinions.

[@stellan75]

Wireless charging is no problem what so ever, just search Oslo (Norways capital) and wireless charging! They have had 150kW wireless charging with low losses for 5-10 years by now!

[@TailosiveEV]

So why do so few cars have it?

[@headhunter_4209]

You would never run out of battery in a Robo taxi because the software would know how long your trip is and just wouldn’t pick you up if it didn’t have the battery for it it would go in charge itself and another one with more battery would come and pick you up

[@TailosiveEV]

So I gotta move all my gear every time the car gets low?

[@sketchninja7005]

From my understanding Glass-roof on the cybertaxi (or any car) adds more complexity in the production and the weight goes up too. Solar-roof at the current moment in time makes little sense, similar reasons: cost, complexity.

[@matthewboyd8689]

Like Google, probably going to introduce it to cities its most suited for to make use of the ones they do make. Even if it was 100% ready for all cities, they'd still need to do it that way for an effective taxi service.

[@DeSilver215]

I think robot tax/mini busi is ok for public transport . However, buying a car without a steering wheel or charge ports, we basically are buying into the idea, that tesla will always knows how to get to all the places I will ever need to go to. Without a steering wheel and pedal there is no way the passengers can ever teach or add to the routes it wants the vehicle to go.

[@WolfX1120]

All i was seeing here is a lot of lost jobs in the near future, mine included.

[@battery_wattage]

@@WolfX1120 that’s the nature of disruptive creations like this. Assuming this goes as planned, we really don’t know what work outlook would be. Back when farming equipment took over 95% of jobs, it was unpredictable that there would be so much more different jobs to choose from. Now less than 2% of jobs is related to farming. So many people lost so many jobs, but at the same time, so many got into better jobs no one even saw coming. Will that happen considering we are having an AI space race, maybe.

[@TailosiveEV]

Automation won't replace as much as you think, and there's still massive labor shortages in many industries

[@WolfX1120]

@@battery_wattage The problem is I happen to love my job, I'm a delivery driver... And I absolutely love driving, this is a job that I very much do not wish to lose.

[@battery_wattage]

@@WolfX1120 for certain you still need humans to facilitate moving of packages. Even if you are not driving, you still need to deliver packages, confirm signature, etc.. Also if you look at the semi space, even if the truck could 100% autonomous driving, you still need it crewed for years to come.

[@VMYeahVN]

@@TailosiveEV It absolutely will, unless regulation stops employers from automating every job they can. They will do it soon as the tech for their particular industry is good enough.

[@td4940]

I like the headlights on the cybercab.

[@richardjones8395]

There has been huge inflation since the original $25K number was thrown out, so $30K is actually still pretty good.

[@romeurei89]

12:52 I saw the wippers. Hidden on the hood lip, similar to M3 but further snuck in there.

[@jamespaul2587]

Why assume tax credits will be available if and when the cab arrives?

[@TailosiveEV]

I was referring to a version that would have steering and pedals

[@jamespaul2587]

@TailosiveEV yes, but US tax credits may be gone soon

[@yourlogicalnightmare1014]

As a Tesvestor since summer 2023, this was a stinking dud of an event. Cant wait to get out of this stock at the next giga volatile spike to $299

[@sociolocomtsac]

Free money if you short it

[@yourlogicalnightmare1014]

@@sociolocomtsac All my money is invested, so no.

[@TeslaOutage]

Another streamer mentioned that the talking Optimis robot had someone actually talking for the robot.

[@filippxx]

There will be a charging port in the cybercab. Problem is they treat this as a Sci fi project ( that nobody knows where it comes) not as a product ready in two years.

[@Guerreropowerr]

there were on-screen buttons to close the doors for the side where no one sits.

[@Cyberwolfman]

The Robovan makes me think of the GMC Futurliner, also a cool large vehicle.

[@tonydeveyra4611]

Those robovans look like they might share some parts with the Semi. Maybe they'll also be produced in Nevada

[@didierpuzenat7280]

The screens ?

[@outforbeer]

No wiper make sense if no driver. Its no different to back or side windows. If you want to see better, just manually wipe