Tesla v12 software update - new graphics, Tesla Vision update?

A quick look at the new Tesla Software update v12.
Let us know what you think and if you would change anything.
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[@ggezlol-]

Just wanted to say thank you for all of your tesla videos. They have been an extreme help for me. I bit the bullet and I am picking up my model 3 this Saturday. Will be my first EV!!!

[@gusbandicoot]

Enjoy, i love my MY

[@maickelwand9100]

You won't regret! It's a fantastic car. Wipers are getting better on each update 😊

[@MannyOnePointFour]

@@maickelwand9100They’re really not. Terrible now on my MYP. They’re always terrible for a different reason. Improves in one area then worsens in another. Wish they’d just implement proper rain sensors. It’s my only major gripe with a Tesla.

[@beehappy7797]

@@MannyOnePointFour Rain sensor is for cavemen.

[@keithjohnson6510]

@@MannyOnePointFour Had my model Y since last year. Love the car, but must admit the auto-wipers are not great, but have to agree with maickelwant9100, they have got better, not tried this new update yet, we will see. The worrying part is, at least I'm still able to use the stalk, with the highland removing them it would be even worse.. :(

[@chunkauli]

I have a Model y 2022 with Ultrasonic which had the visual update 3 weeks ago and just had the latest Updatte v12(2024.14.8) yesterday ,and it updated with which include tesla vision parking ...best of both world now....

[@wakeywarrior]

Yes I put Tesla Vision on my 2022 March RWD (option to select). Who would have thought given your original video on this Richard, that they would have got it so good? You genuinely don’t need sensors now. Clever software engineers at Tesla, some of the best in the world.

[@tomfarey692]

There is an option to enable vision only parking sensors for cars with the ultrasound sensors. Also now shows brake and indicator lights of vehicles in front while driving.

[@rolandrohde]

Seems to be only for Ryzen cars though. And also...is Autopark working for the Vision Only cars by now?

[@edc1569]

I guess you could just look out of the windscreen to see that?

[@nathanmarsh2648]

@@rolandrohdeno auto park in the UK for Vision only cars.

[@JellyLancelot]

The brake light and indicator now show on other traffic for my ‘21 M3 LR (intel, boo!), along with a significant amount more stuff rendered on the screen around the car. A huge amount of cars. We don’t get the new UI, but we appear to have had the upgraded AP vision.

[@rolandrohde]

@@JellyLancelot There is a lot more being displayed onscreen, but so far I am not seeing any benefit from that in terms of the actual Autopilot performance.

[@andrewp634]

very useful thanks, watched before my update

[@Snipey123654]

Been running it on the 2024m3 for the last week, and it performs amazingly especially in motorway driving. The better classifier seems to be a significant improvement at thinking ahead and planning on the road.

[@CaseyDogovich]

Cars with ultra sonic sensors can select Tesla vision - overall I think it is the better option.

[@VoxelLoop]

I know initially the accuracy wasn't great, but from that test they did, honestly my opinion of how close it was from the view on the screen matched perfectly with how close it looked outside. Is it 'to the millimeter' accurate? Probably not. Will it stop you somehow driving into a car in front of you? More than likely! (Though we did survive for many many years without parking sensors, I think a bit of common sense goes a long way haha)

[@dubzfry]

Unless you're in a 21 plate or older with the intel chip. Hopefully that might come soon

[@triadmad]

I'm across the pond from you all, and I'm still waiting for the upgrade on my '23 Y. I'm looking forward to the change in wiper control in particular.

[@alfie217]

Very helpful look at the new update cheers 👍🏼

[@sargfowler9603]

Looks like you have a proper laugh most days at work! What a great team

[@Emmanuel-wo4gs]

Thank you 👍👍👍👍👍

[@gbw28]

We have a Model 3 2023 with USS. Gave Vision a go when this update downloaded and haven’t gone back. Love it.

[@andywright3107]

I find the car visualisation gimmicky, I'd rather the map (ie. the useful bit) could be expanded instead. And no, the wipers still don't work (but at least the on-screen control is improved a bit).

[@bhavmak6897]

I get where you are coming from but I've also been surprised by how useful it can be too at times, with checking you are in or out of a box or seeing how close another car is getting etc.. also confirmation of where the car is taking it's reference (via a dark grey vehicle) for the adaptive cruise control (aka autopilot) is reassuring. That said, it's not like I keep my Tesla on the full screen vis!

[@BrickBasherUK]

Hear hear, the map is the useful bit, not a load of shitty useless graphics Be nice if the autopilot didn't slam the brakes on every time a car I'm overtaking puts it's indicators on too 😭

[@YuenanCao]

You don’t understand what it is doing - it is actually modeling in 3D, an occupancy network.

[@robin0ahhhh]

@@YuenanCao I mean... I understand exactly what it's doing, I have a pretty good comprehension of how it's doing it... But i still don't get why it's doing it. I've had the car for 2 years and it has never been of use whilst driving (good for parking, not 360 camera good... but fine), why do i need to know what the car see's? just do it in the background... if fact the only time i actually notice it is when it gets something wrong! I think if it worked more like a rearview mirror, showing what is behind and potentially in your blind spot, that would be more useful.

[@martinweston8147]

@@robin0ahhhh +1, I've never thought "I wish the visualisation was bigger", but I've often thought "I wish it was smaller". If you want to see what the car can see just look out the windscreen :=)

[@Sukhumvit1]

Getting my first Tesla in 2 weeks . Cannot wait. Been watching all your videos 😎

[@nealm1814]

Never mind the rain sensor they need to sort the phantom braking whilst on autopilot.

[@granterrenoltd]

I haven’t seen that on my 2021 model 3 since 2022. It still slams on the brakes if someone is inching out into my path at a junction or if someone moves into my lane in front of me on the motorway but that’s a legitimate case of braking that’s needed.

[@markl3893]

I agree with @granterrenoltd. My 2021 Model 3 was the same as he describes and my new 2024 Model 3 is very good indeed. I still tense up a bit when I see a situation that could lead to unnecessary braking, but it never happens. Phantom braking has been solved as far as I can tell.

[@BrickBasherUK]

It's still horrendous on my 2020 M3 If you're overtaking someone on the motorway and they put their right indicator on, the car slams the brakes on, which in that situation is the absolute worst thing to do Absolute shite

[@nealm1814]

@@markl3893 Guess my 2023 Model Y hasn't got the message that its been solved. Doesn't need the other car to be indicating or even inching out for it to slam on the anchors.

[@martinweston8147]

@@markl3893 You must only drive on straight roads ;=) it will always phantom break when it sees a car in a layby on the outside of a bend, if its lights are on (at least its repeatable I guess).

[@dang3254]

Thanks for opening comment Richard re need the post 22 chip, was wondering why I had received update but not big screen view on my 21 M3

[@matthewmallett4718]

Did a quick and dirty test of Tesla Vision v the USS yesterday against the garage door and wall. Not exactly a taxing test but side by side they were very similar. I would say I think the USS were quicker to highlight "stop" but the distances for each were comparable. I also get a lot more bings and bongs from the USS if passing objects to front sides and rear sides which the vision didn't give apart from the visuals and which Im not sure I trust fully yet. Its nice to still have both options and I think its a useful feedback method to Tesla as well if those with USS can highlight to them any areas where USS is more accurate and vision needs further tweaking. More impressed than I thought I would be in summary.

[@fishndive1961]

Since you recorded this 14.7 and 14.8 came or with camera park assist for USS equipped cars and adaptive headlights which are insanely good.

[@Tenniszogger]

If you compare the distances to the distance displayed with USS (if you have an USS car, you can toggle between these options), you see, that the car sometimes says stop at 70cm left, sometimes at 30cm and sometimes…well you’ll need a new bumper for that. I’ve done that test on mine today, so still room for improvement here!

[@paulogabrielferreiralage3632]

Very Impressive!!!!! Awesome!!!! Wowwwww

[@TrickyTree84]

Good update but like you, i liked swiping up for the media, not uts harder to reach. The speed cam chimes are very welcome. Now we just need to be able to report mobile police

[@NeilY1000]

If you have to brake hard it now automatically puts on your hazard lights. Not sure if this came with the latest update but it’s a great addition

[@Martin-dx5zs]

Do you plan on reviewing the Volvo EX30? Hopefully you get a twin motor. Quicker than a Model Y Performance

[@jerz8289]

Richard, you and your team needs to fly over to the US and drive around my properly equipped '24 Model Y Performance with Full Self Driving (Supervised) for comparison.

[@evostu7814]

Whens the new performance m3 arrive?

[@galapagos6522]

Would like to be able to minimize or disable visualization and show other apps like music, navigation bigger. I look outside the windscreen, don’t need this show, is only for passengers.

[@achoudhury2654]

I have a 2021 M3 but the update doesn’t allow full screen visualisation. Am I doing something wrong? Have all other updates though.

[@qprfcno1]

Looking forward to my first M3LR arriving next week.......

[@Hate---Love]

Good luck!

[@robertfay7750]

What year did model 3's start to get the ryzen chip?

[@Jaw0lf]

Still waiting for my update to drop on my M3 RWD 2024. Looks good and thanks for the demo!

[@nicholasrigg8999]

Yep, my M3 Highland doesn't have the update yet

[@howieb2001]

I hope they don't ruin the "Guess how long it takes before Tesla decides it's raining" game.

[@colds7eel]

But why you didn't test the Tesla Vision on the '22 with the ultra sonic sensors? :/

[@shaneturner4630]

I only got the older version today and your already on about another new one 😅

[@russellgilchrist3951]

When I first got my MY last year, first time on Autopilot and the speed shot up, read around and their is a button to set speed to current speed or road traffic speed, so if this is on then it may speed up to speed limit

[@Rabs73]

The best update of the 30 or so I've had in our Model 3s. Not many cars that improve with age, like a good Coonawarra Shiraz 😊

[@bastooopanooo2311]

Will this be availble to older tesla 2020 model 3 standard range

[@BarrowLOL]

Hi I’ve got most of this on the intel chip (2021) dual motor.

[@devpatel8620]

For me the biggest annoyance is EAP and FSD owners in the UK don’t get vision autopark US customers got in recent updates. No idea on timelines

[@markl3893]

Patience.

[@me1td0wn366]

Oh do we not? I have EAP and had the update last night, I was thinking of going past an empty car park to test it!

[@steliosmakrym]

@devpatel8620 I was about to mention that. Not just the Autopark, but Summon and Smart Summon too! We paid the full price for the EAP so reduced functionality is unacceptable. I had my MYLR since Mar 23 (UK) and was so excited for all these features only to find out that I can only use Auto Lane Change & Navigate on Autopilot which are great but Autopark is really bad as cars half the value have it more than 5 years now!

[@devpatel8620]

@@me1td0wn366 I don’t believe we do. I may be wrong here: and if so hopefully someone can correct me. My understanding is vision based autopark is now wrapped into an FSD stack which we don’t have in the UK.

[@steliosmakrym]

@@devpatel8620 I'm not sure how's that being advertised now but Mar 23 these features were in the EAP bundle

[@adammorgan100]

So with speed limit change, I think the car will only do this if it is on auto navigate. i.e. when there is a single blue line rather than the two boarder lines. Thanks for another great video.

[@mubashirkhan2248]

Could you please explain what update will the 2021 model be like. Since you said only 22 and above will get this update

[@GnotherGnu]

Re. Tracking the speed limit, I found I can set this by touching the speed limit icon on the screen. It's a while since I used this as I prefer to set the speed target manually. 2022 Model Y with Ryzen chip and ultrasonic sensors.

[@SilverfoxThe]

I've just done it but haven't driven the car yet. The thing I'm going to like most is the wiper controls. It drives me a little nuts but this will be better for sure. Now, if only Tesla vision could be adapted to control the wipers on AUTO setting.....

[@nicolebradley3959]

I don't have the softweare update. Haven't had one since April.

[@taitrieu7879]

Thank you for the video! I still wish my 2023 had the parking sensors because my Tesla vision is not nearly as reliable and still today is off every now and then.

[@oguzocal1]

Does it stop automatically before hit a wall while parking?

[@mikecounsell]

Are these new visuals coming to 2019 MS anytime soon or are we legacy do you guys think

[@edc1569]

Is there an option to turn all the tesla vision stuff off to extend the range?

[@dubzfry]

I'm curious when most people got this update. As I got this update about 2 weeks ago. As far as I'm aware I'm usually in the first batch of updates in the UK. Sadly I've got the M3P 21 with the intel chip so not vision or new full screen graphics. Looking forward to 2024.20 with headlights that adapt to curves with living in the countryside!

[@oguzocal1]

Does it stop automatically before you hit a wall?

[@VipinAbraham]

No visual update for Model x and s. That’s frustrating

[@somewaresim]

Liking the v12 update. Tesla Vision is surprisingly good, even though I have the parking sensors on my car. Can they please fix the wipers though!?

[@GreenRaptorSpace]

No regenerative braking information shown in a thin line like before ?

[@everusualsuspect]

It isn't for Ryzen only. I have a 21 with V12 for a couple of weeks now. They just remove some of the heavier graphical functions like being able to go full screen with the visuals. I did love the intelligent indicators that cancelled when the manoeuvre was complete (instead of 3 flashes) but I had another update on Monday and they've taken that off me 😢

[@GWVEEN]

Today I drove ~150km through all kinds of rain on the German autobahn. Also a lot of misting from cars driving in front of me (in my mid-2022 model 3 rwd). I can say that the rain sensor definitely improved, however it still sucks. Reasons: - still pressed the manual wipe button like a 1000 times at least (cuz I like my rain removed while I can still see stuff) (to be fair, before it would’ve been 2-3 times as often so it’s still an improvement) - every time you do manually press the wipe button; you now have to scroll up and down to change wiper settings instead of left and right which blocks the audio volume -> this causes a lot of accidental wiper changes and causes dangerous situations - certain types of coverage of rain on the windshield are not detected (if the window is completely covered with a see through layer of water) - I still wish I could have a setting that increases the wipe speed as I often find it too slow

[@jen8639]

Why don’t I have this pending on my 24 highland?

[@allanmbruce]

What about the new indicators? I've found them great for changing lanes on the motorway but they seem worse for roundabouts and single carriageway driving

[@Paul-Thomas-LifeCoach]

Thanks Richard. Quick question, does the '22 Camera only car show the high number of vehicles on the road like the sensor based car? I'd be interested to see the difference! TA

[@voldar70]

Yes. The cars on the road are due to Tesla vision, not the USS.

[@michaelwoods1745]

No, I've got a 2020 M3 with USS and I've had this update for a couple of weeks now. I've got the increased number of vehicles showing on my display, i just can't make it full screen due to the older intel system.

[@LookatBowen]

I didn't see any wiper motion in sunlight.

[@DerekDavis213]

I love RSymons videos, because he is always postive about anything from Tesla. So loyal.

[@nondasamoratis]

Getting ota update is making even my 5day old M3H newer since delivery date.

[@ThePantheons]

Should've tried using Tesla Vision to park in a tight garage or between two cars. Nowhere near the USS. Shambles.

[@robertp2116]

I look forward to Tesla fixing phantom braking. And yes, auto wipers that do more than randomly wipe the windshield would be a real treat 😊

[@markbooth]

I have the new visualisation on Model 3 2021 too

[@YoutubeAccount-qq7zj]

Do you have ryzen or intel ?

[@markbooth]

@@KZbinAccount-qq7zj no idea

[@markyates5744]

Where's the nice horizontal bar that shows you the acceleration / deceleration! I like to try and balance it to the middle in certain traffic conditions! They add but they take away. That's why I now hate software updates! Pisses me off!

[@chukzn17]

Its on the right hand side of the screen , vertical now instead of at the top horizontal

[@martinweston8147]

@@chukzn17 Yep, it's a lot trickier now to know how much regen to expect.

[@chukzn17]

I agree , alot more difficult to see it

[@MrPaulsim]

The power visualisation you know green line black line seems to have disappeared for me after the update.

[@aslee3312]

It moved next to the larger speedo number vertically now rather than horizontal

[@cokyrobes]

Tesla leading the way as usual. No one else anywhere near in terms of software and value for money. My 72 plate Model Y better now than it was when I bought it.

[@williammykura2342]

Apart from Tesla Vision and larger display, especially the MPH display, not much changed. Where is the Power/Regen bar at the top of the screen - seems to have disappeared, can it be enabled? I thought the Autopilot Nag was being removed but no, it’s still there unfortunately.

[@chrisrowe22]

It’s moved to the extreme right hand side(in rhd vehicles)

[@martinweston8147]

Likes, the new chime for speed cameras and the fact it gives you your actual average speed through an average speed camera zone (although font a little small), Dislikes, the top of the screen now looks messy around the clock and lock icon, the throttle / regen bar is now very tricky to see (the speed got bigger and moved everything else), the full screen visualisation does nothing for me, and the media mini menu is not as good as it was. Plus if I'm paying £9.99/month then why cant the car down load updates via its own sim?, but over all very happy my Tesla gets a little better every couple of months.

[@deasunodonnachadha6408]

Bah! still have not got this update :(

[@Snayps]

Nice and funny preview, thank you! ✨

[@XStrikeSuper]

Why can't they include Navigation on this 3D models as well?

[@EvEvangelist]

I Trawl all the Web for $TSLA NEWS - every dam day. When I see a YT release from you- I know I’m going to get Facts . BTW my UK MS now has v12 also 24.14.8

[@gavinpage4157]

Don’t like where they’ve put the power bar can’t see it, move it back onto the top of the screen

[@MannyOnePointFour]

I had this update and graphics about 2-3 weeks ago on my MYP. Is everyone else just really behind?

[@Selene_M3]

Yep just now got the spring update 2 days ago on a 12/23 M3

[@everusualsuspect]

Me too

[@JaimeNeail]

Agreed, wish they'd focus on fixing the wipers still rubbish with new update and one late request I've been chasing, allow WhatsApp messages to sync with the car not just SMS, even my old Jag f-pace did that from 4yrs ago.

[@rustyfox81]

Do you get the new visuals with standard software, do you have to have fsd ?

[@Mahdathai]

With standard

[@rustyfox81]

@@Mahdathai Nice !

[@pauld3327]

It looks like the parking sensors are not useful anymore. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@markyates5744]

So you trust the cameras to work every time from short distances? And when convered in dirt and slush in winter?

[@georgevigil7001]

@@markyates5744doesn’t look like we’re going to have a choice with sensors gone.

[@markcornwall8132]

I was hoping vision on cars with sensors would still show distance to objects. It does not. Shame, when you have the sensors as well. Switched it off and gone back to cameras and distance. Other stuff looks OK though.

[@xuepingsong5329]

Why do you need the measurement though? isn't the colour and visuals enough?

[@mrmawson2438]

Cheers guys Fossil fuels shattered as battery power continues breaking records in California The Electric Viking

[@fire_stick]

is there an update option from 2019 to the ryzen cpu?

[@benjaminholm835]

I believe this is rolling out to Ryzen CPUs now as well, minus the new visualizations.

[@michaelwoods1745]

Not officially. I believe there's a fair bit of work involved mainly due to the wiring and different 12V battery, it would likely cost thousands, and it just wouldn't be worth it unless you can do it yourself. Even if you could do it yourself, you'd then have to get Tesla to update your cars configuration, i'm not even sure they would. I've got a 2020 Model 3 and have had this update for a couple of weeks, we're not missing much by the looks of it, just the full screen visualisation.

[@Rambo9700]

How do I know if I have the horizon chip? Took delivery of a new Model Y performance on Tuesday. I would assume it has it.

[@thejammod]

It will have the latest hardware and chip.

[@Rambo9700]

@@thejammod literally an hour after I made the comment it was available to download. 😎

[@keithcarney1097]

When you move into a new speed zone, just touch the new speed on the screen and it will adjust to it.

[@xingbreakin]

Even better, hold down the drive selector stalk and it will do the same thing! (On cars with stalks at least)

[@RubenKelevra]

Why do we have to do this manually?

[@hassanhammo3542]

The neu update pick up the stop light und Indikator of other cars …!!

[@DP-zi4cj]

I love my tesla with its stalks ❤

[@mhsohel47]

Test it in rain the auto wiper

[@armandomunoz1733]

would intel processors get the full screen version later on in the future or never? 😢

[@michaelwoods1745]

Never, they're not powerful enough.

[@JT-zs8cd]

in my phoneapp the software version says 2024.8.9, so where i see v12?

[@MannyOnePointFour]

I had all this as part of 2024.14 just over 3 weeks ago on my MYP. Since then I’ve had two further updates: 2024.14.3 and 2024.14.8. Unsure what model you have but perhaps it’s different rollout schedules for different models.

[@keithjohnson6510]

@@MannyOnePointFour Same, doing 2024.14.8 today, just Minor fixes on release note, last one was audible app update.

[@OnWisconsin33]

Already got 2024.14.9 on May 31.

[@johnmackay5288]

Just give us an indicator stalk….that’s what we need and want, not more gimmicks!

[@markyates5744]

There was a dog on the pavement in the video. For a second it turned into a 2nd human

[@royceybaby]

Werewolf sensor maybe?

[@Wankidy]

I got the V12 update and FSD 12.3.6. It's so amazing!! Sorry Europe, I'm in the US

[@markymarkreviews]

At night please. I still feel the Tesla Vision is a distraction overall. Who wants images just out of eyeline "jigging and jagging" (will probably improve over time I suspect with further updates) as you pass down a road? Just seems like a gadget for gadgets sake (compared to excellent cameras and park sensors). But would be more useful going down dark poorly lit lanes etc. Seeing pedestrians or vehicles. Don't see the point of it showing parked cars/vehicles on a bright sunny day! Your eyes looking through the windscreen are the best for that.

[@Chris-mh3vf]

What if you are not parked in a room full of sausages? I would be unhappy with that visulisation

[@jafuk]

I am convinced the 2019/20 with FSD will never work due to the older computer not being able to handle the FPS. Interested how this plays out as I paid £5800 for a product that has yet to be released. Will older cars get new computers? I know Tesla keeps hassling me to upgrade. Is that their way out of this debacle?

[@thejammod]

FSD is optimised to run on HW3.

[@everusualsuspect]

What convinced you to get it in the UK? Didn't you get the option to try it for 30 days?

[@jafuk]

​@@everusualsuspectIt was 2019. 30 days or monthly subscription wasn't an option. I bought into Elon's BS sadly

[@everusualsuspect]

@@jafuk ouch. Feel bad for you

[@michaelwoods1745]

I think you'll be surprised, I've seen a few videos with FSD (supervised) running on 2019 Model 3s in the US without issue.

[@alancobbin]

Tesla vision much better,FSD is coming guys,exciting times ,M3P must be close now Rich,cheers guys 👍😉💪

[@willp2003]

Any MY owners in the UK got this?

[@brian83011]

Yes, yesterday 22 plate

[@mediamonk100]

Yeah but when are they going to stop forcing me to keep my hands on the wheel during FSD???!!?!

[@BigBen621]

With v12.4, already in the hands of employees. Here's a 30-minute drive on v12.4 without a single steering wheel nag. Lots of nags for looking at his phone, but none to "Apply slight turning force to steering wheel"; kzbin.info/www/bejne/joqbkJahmK-tkJo.

[@Cheradanine]

I wish that instead of making the car visualisation larger they would give the option to make it smaller. It's useless information after all. I'd much rather have the ability to make the map fullscreen. Oh, and the auto wipers are now worse than ever. Constant dry-wiping and when it actually bloody rains the damn things barely work. They are even worse at night and are bordering on dangerous.

[@SMX815]

Great videos, whilst I am not a fan of Tesla, you have to give Tesla credit for their software is second to known & it is what speeches Tesla from its competitors hands down! 👏

[@willemhaifetz-chen1588]

I have a working rain sensor, all parking sensors and distronic on 2003 W211 E320 CDI