Test Flights and Surprise Take-offs | Archean with w4sted

[@seanpayne1260]

"if conversations don't devolve into talking about food, I'm not talking." Amen. Same here. Food is love, food is life.

[@Kaboom-0623]

pickled eggs when done right ... are very nice ... most people suck at pickling eggs ... so far the best way i have found is to use Strubbs pickle jar juice to pickle them ... specifically that juice because it is the most accurate version of Dill pickles without the chemical taste ... if you grow dill also grow sweet garlic ... then add that to white vinegar and let sit for several months ... then add it to eggs of cucumbers etc ... yes that is a basic Dill pickle spice recipe ... the sweet garlic imparts sweetness and pepperyness to the flavour ... the addition of a small clove of hard stalk garlic increases the pepper flavour ... substantially and mellows the sweet garlic flavour ... this is best for pickled onions and franks or meat products

[@delphicdescant]

I can't help but think how stunning the TOS Enterprise would look in this renderer. Especially the bridge, with all the screens reflecting off one another, and all the bold, bright colors everywhere. Considering the audience for this kind of game, there might already be one on the workshop. I'll have to go look.

[@mikestone-w1q]

Slowing the rotor speed down so you could see the direction of rotation was a very good idea. You can use the same idea to verify the control system’s behavior: put the craft in the water and add a float at the back to pitch the nose down. You should see the rotors at the back slow down and the ones at the front speed up. Moving the float around to change the tilt should always produce the same effect: the low side should speed up and the high side should slow down. Once you know the behavior is correct, you can increase the rotor speed and work with actual lift forces.

[@Pystro]

On the topic of clipping the values: Yes, it might make sense to clip the output of the addition to between 0 and 1. But you also can get problems if several of the modes all try to take more than their fair share of the pie (*). That's why I'd actually clamp the values _before_they get summed from pitch yaw roll and lift into M1, M2 , M3 and M4. That way you can make sure that none of the directions can overpower the motor authority. You may want a bit more, but let's assume that you limit your lift authority to at most 60%. (If 4 rotors are at the weight limit, then 60% gives you 10% wiggle room above the 50%-ish that 8 rotors will need to run at on average.) That leaves 40% authority remaining that can be split between roll, pitch and yaw. If Pitch is clamped to -20 to +20% authority, and roll and yaw to between -10% to +10%, then you guarantee that no output from that addition (and thus no input into any motor) will ever be above 100%. Or, since you know that if you aren't aligned in the correct direction there's not much use in thrusting (because you aren't actually thrusting UP), you could even limit thrust/lift (and yaw) to whatever pitch and roll leave unused at that exact moment. You'd limit pitch and roll to something that sums to 100% (for example +-60% for pitch, and +-40% for roll). Then also take the absolutes of what they actually use at the current moment, and subtract the sum of that from 100%; that gives you what's left over. Lift can be clamped to 75% of that leftover authority and roll to 25% of it. (*) An explanation of the problem via example: If all of your motors are at 95% power to keep the altitude, and you (or the PID) want to apply both forward pitch and roll to the right, then the left and rear rotors will need to run faster. If both rotational inputs come in at 5% or more, then the front left, rear left and rear right rotors will run full speed (and the front right runs slower). But, if the diagonally opposing front left and rear right rotors run full tilt, then you'd inevitably yaw (to the left in this example).

[@Eisen_Jaeger]

With all the food talk, an upside down cake comes to mind for some reason.. :P

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

50:40 In North America, "tater tots" are basically finely chopped potatoes with a little onion, compressed into small cylindrical shapes, kinda like briquettes or wood pellets, and deep fried. They're not breaded and they don't involve mashed potatoes in any way, they're usually the leftovers from French fries manufacturing. And despite how I've described how they're made, they are quite delicious.

[@ifsck]

They were invented by Ore-Ida, which might be why W4sted was thinking of a brand name.

[@Pystro]

1:52:00 ish: Your rotor twists are now the wrong way around. They should be almost completely (but not fully) flat at the tips (where they spin fastest) and steeper at the base (to keep the downwards air velocity the same despite the fact that the rotation is slower). Setting it up correctly should give you better performance. I think Wasted might have fiddled with the twist (and keeping the base flat), when he should have fiddled with the pitch (optionally after counter-twisting the tips so that the base can be steeper).

[@williamgodard1526]

This convo about food got me thinking about my guilty pleasures and its mostly bar food like pickled eggs and sausage and pork rinds.

[@walterroche8192]

Pickled Sausage!!! Hmmm.. 🤔🤔🤔 Must investigate..

[@crumpler6773]

I can say, as someone who has traveled a significant portion of the US, (albeit mostly central) that if you want Barbeque, head to Texas if you want good street food, head to New Orleans, Louisiana or to San Antonio, Texas and if you want to try that rarest of rare US foods, don't try anything labeled as "cajun" unless you are east of Houston' Texas or within the bounds of the southern portions of Louisiana (especially crawfish or gumbo) because you WILL get food poisoning and you WILL NOT get a good food. And if you try fast food, most of it is a chain nowadays, so ask a local. Most locals in the southern states are VERY passionate about our food and would LOVE to show or tell someone from out of country the best places to eat local cuisine

[@crumpler6773]

Honestly, listening to you and W4sted troubleshooting this build makes me feel a whole lot less badly about my troubleshooting methods on vehicles I have made on Stormworks

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

1:02:40 The proportions for the blades vs chassi don't look all that dissimilar from an Autel evo 2 drone, except the body is twice as wide.

[@Kaboom-0623]

if the burger is very peppery blue cheese cuts that and adds sharpness to it without extra bite ... pineapple is good for spicy foods .. and scratching your itchy spots ...

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

37:00 I've actually done that too, thinking it would lead to a more flavorful pie. I used a "sugar" pumpkin which was a lie, I had to dump a ridiculous amount of sugar into the custard on top of the work of cutting, roasting, and scraping the damn thing. So I've stuck with canned pumpkin ever since. I'm told that you can get good results with butternut squash as well. And yes, the pumpkin itself is quite mild at the end of the day, most of the flavor is from the sugar and spices.

[@Kaboom-0623]

@w4sted ... you need an altitude calibration dial or reading ... so when sitting on land and NOT moving it reads the absolute distance to that spot ... and then removes it from the absolute distance of the craft in flight ... THEN control the inputs ... the first one is basically always the same as it is from the core to the surface ... think altimeter base readings before flight ... these adjust for the actual height above sea level .. while your "sea Level" is the core to the surface ...

[@Kaboom-0623]

like a pendulum the further away from then pivot or base point the less effort it takes to effect a change .... BUT you are making adjustments for the surface to the craft ... by setting the base altitude to the surface and subtracting that from the change then calculate the change to balance from that difference ...

[@phonixfromstix3634]

My From the Depths experience is telling me that turning down the "gain" of the PID controller. What that will do is make the crafts inputs less powerful and not throw the craft around. Normally when I set up my PID I start with no gain and turn it up slowly.

[@GalironRunner]

I gave up on dual uni when they completely gimped the mining from digging to extractors which took all my fun out of it

[@Juice-ud9wz]

Welcome back to another episode of the Wrong Brothers. Will the succeed? Who knows. Find out on today’s episode of the Wrong Brothers in space!

[@Kaboom-0623]

hold overs from rationing ... Korea has the best one ... Army ration stew ... made from left over army ration foods with some noodles tossed in ... sounds disgusting BUT ... is bloody awesome ... and of course the old favorite ... tomatoe soup and dumpling ... originally it was left over dumplings from the chicken stew added to tom soup with crackers (saltines) or lightly toasted bread ...

[@RetinaBurner]

A Nav Instrument would solve your altitude problems in one go. Stop poo-pooing using one, and just use one, that's what they're for. A Physics sensor might also be helpful to monitor acceleration on all axes. Also, Splitsie, "J" will turn on your jetpack so you can maintain altitude in android mode. Also, why are the rotors on pivots if you're not using them? Wasted, "CLAMP" is your friend for normalization/sanitation.

[@Pystro]

Yeah, now that you mention it, rotor pivots should be used. That's the only real reason why the rotors would need to be put onto the same height; so that the rotor pivots are roughly the same vertical distance from the center of mass. Without the pivots, the rotor force is applied along a vertical axis, and the position of the motor along that axis is irrelevant. Even just setting a constant rearward angle on the rotor pivots could have solved the front flip problem, without the need to add ballast in the tails.

[@zacharycunningham7669]

Either there's been too much power going to the rear propellers, and not enough to the ones in the front, or it's just not enough weight in the back, or maybe it's a combination of both. That's what I'm making out here, especially with how many times they have flipped that thing over, right up until the 40 or so minutes in this video.

[@delphicdescant]

Did you guys ever try making the blade twist like airplane props? Normally, the pitch is high near the center, and low out at the extremities of the prop. It looks like you guys have the opposite going on, where the pitch is mild in the center, and extreme at the blade tips. Unless IRL quadcopters use that kind of twist for some reason, that is going to be pretty inefficient.

[@spacepiratecaptainrush1237]

the wireing in this makes me want to start with a chasis, then run the cable then detail overtop to make it clean.

[@chuff2010]

Do you plan to continue solo Survival Impossible? I was really enjoying that series. Have you also considered releasing that world to the workshop so we can explore it?

[@Kaboom-0623]

bacon ... never have to worry ... everything goes better with bacon

[@JamesAlexanderMartin]

I haven't really tried MyDU either but from what I've seen, you can mess around with the server settings quite a bit. Up the asteroid spawning so you can mine properly and delete the whole schematic folder (which you can) and it could be fun? I always just wanted a creative mode to build spaceships, which now I can.

[@eriklindloff3818]

Now the anker was a paid actor.

[@DemTacs]

o.O you feed your sheep Kiwi's? You monster. Atleast you peel them first, right? You clearly hadn't Aloo Pakora yet. Battered fried potatos, so yummy.

[@Kaboom-0623]

a helicopter has yaw and roll on the stick .. and pitch and speed on the cyclic ... the pitch of the cyclic is a gross control tilting forward or backward only ... for acceleration and deceleration ... while the stick controls finely with yaw and roll and minute pitch controls ..

[@Voron_Aggrav]

1:31:00 I've done that in Space Engineers, Though I Don't think it was That violent

[@VladBYT]

Hello guys ! Another interesting video with the Wrong Brothers:) ..what is W4sted YT channel ?

[@Flipsie]

KZbin.com/w4stedspace 🙂

[@iulica]

Speaking about food , The beautifull english womans and the good food made the english mens good sailors

[@kelemvour]

The Splitsie is often Wrong. But that just makes him the right level of entertaining… The RBLF finds this contradictory, but accepts it. The RBLF also thinks the craft keeps flipping upside down because an upside down Australian man is the pilot. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@kevinhayes3184]

Pumpkin is disgusting

[@ericwemmer402]

Please add all the weight as far below the propellers as possible.

[@tankmorebed3331]

In this design it pretty much is.

[@ericwemmer402]

@@tankmorebed3331 I was thinking this out loud while he was placing the concrete blocks in the rear at his head height. Would have been a lot better for stability for them to go under the floor there.

[@tankmorebed3331]

@@ericwemmer402 That is a fair point and generally I agree with you because it's a good rule of thumb. I would say on this build though putting the weight further down would pull the centre of mass down and back, its currently around the floor near the centre of the craft which should be good enough. Dropping it down could make it more stable, but too low will make the tipping point to roll it over much higher so it would make it more difficult to right when it ends up on its roof. I dont think it was intentional but I think Splitsie has put the weight in a near perfect spot for this build in this game but yeah it could be better mathematically speaking.

[@voidphilosopher42]

Hello Splitsie, if posible, could you copy or comment pin the document that wasted is using? I'm just way to curious and invested at this point... I could search myself (and probably will), but would like to read the specific one Wasted is using.

[@Kaboom-0623]

not stream friendly words ... Rain Snow Sleet Hail ... Freezing Rain ... there all not stream friendly words ;) and generally 4 letter words too

[@pinaz993]

All of your talk about food has led me to the sad, sad realization that you and w4sted may never experience eating from Abuela's table. You know. Abuela. Force of nature in the shape of a little old Mexican lady. Must have been a sniper in a previous age, from how accurate she is with a chancla. (Or maybe it's the fact that she's raised more kids than some people have fingers.) Her glare once stopped a runaway train. If you value your continued existence, you would be wise to stay on her good side. However, the continued fear of death and what lies beyond is very much worth it to taste the fruit of her labor. For once you take your first bite of a tamale from Abuela's kitchen, you ascend to a more enlightened mental plane. The love with which the food was cooked infuses you, and gives you the strength to toil in the desert sun for as long as it may take to make her smile with pride. If you doubt me, please, ask Mr. Texfire. In his years, surely their paths have crossed.

[@pinaz993]

In case it wasn't clear, Abuela is an archetype, heartily fulfilled by many admirable individuals in the south of North America. Homemade Mexican food is truly exceptional. Of course Mexican wedding food is a whole other animal. Truly the stuff of legend.

[@Kaboom-0623]

a coquette is a woman who endeavors without sincere affection to gain the attention and admiration of men a croquette is a cooked item of food that can be yummy and savory ... or greasy and bland ... depending on who makes it

[@ZeroZemial]

i dont rly have a plan wat u to are doing buuuuut like in SC u need to give it more wiggel roommostly 1 or 2 points. second if u can use decimals then u can even use the -1/ 1 scale like -0,999 or + 0,875 like splitsie uses in some of his SE Builds for rotor or pistons maybe this would work then better to. well but i dont rly know wat u are seeing there ^^

[@FrAsSBrAsS]

this is galaxy 4d and they should honor the backer from the start not change the name and make repay