Testing a cursed magazine idea

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[@Mentalpathy]

youre weird for making this. im subbing

[@nemojH4]

yea same lol

[@GoofyBoyOfficial]

lol fr

[@Walmart_Shopping_Bag]

nice

[@primefox3089]

600th like lol and yes

[@CompleteAnimation]

The advantage of the magazine isn't that it lets you put more darts down range faster, it's that it lets you put one magazine load of darts down range faster!

[@Tarrandus]

Also, removing a mag and putting in a fresh fully loaded mag. Loading a mag is slower than loading a barrel, but you do the work ahead of time.

[@austinchristmas6033]

Also it creates that threat of being tagged out and sometimes that’s all you need

[@derrickbiedermann9802]

Exactly, pepper box pistols and cap and ball revolvers weren't really faster over a large number of shots than Era muzzle loading pistols, but could fire 6+ times in a go with out reloading. Same even goes for the Nerf revolvers vs the Nerf Muzzle Loading pistols now that I think about it.

[@Caveman125]

@@derrickbiedermann9802 I thought about it and the nerf revolver would out do the nerf muzzle loader anyday. But then again all it takes is 1, ide be glad to be tagged out if all I had was one and not none.

[@odin4712]

​@@Tarrandus Now pull out your sidearm. Remember - switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading. Using your knife is even faster than switching to your pistol.

[@faydedfolf]

could make it so the mags are interchangeable, so you can have preloaded mags ready to go

[@gamerdragon4721]

And also with the mags being removable you could have some sort of spring mechanism to push the darts in to the barrel, so you wouldn’t have to tilt it back every time you need another dart in the barrel! :] Like a spring to push them towards the barrel, and then some sort of flap that opens when you cock it so only 1 dart inters the barrel at a time!! :D But that’s just my idea and I don’t actually know if it would work or not, or if it would even be worth it in the end so… yah! XP lol

[@katunu6030]

@@gamerdragon4721I mean this is how real mags work

[@deskmat9874]

Crazy he would act surprised that it took about the same time to shoot the magazine one when he didn't even bother to make some kind of actual clip or speed loader

[@gamerdragon4721]

@@deskmat9874 IKR, I mean it’s almost not fair to say “they’re about the same” without even testing the mag’s greatest strength!! :D well, the greatest strength in my opinion at least! :P

[@gamerdragon4721]

@@katunu6030 exactly! :D But even still I’m not sure how well/easy it would be to implement in this case, so… yah IDK!! :P

[@TheTurtleyOne]

The "3d printer" bit was hillarious, love little things like this in videos

[@kentity5272]

Wanna see it go 4d

[@____________838]

@@kentity5272you will, in the past.

[@samuelloomis9714]

There is no time in static objects, so we can assume 4d either makes an object in 4 spacial dimensions or the object changes in a linear fashion. I assume the former because the latter confuses me more.

[@R3TR0J4N]

I'ma show this to my parents and say why the printer inks are expensive 😂

[@davidchapman370]

4d printing is soooo next Tuesday, you should get one of the new M printers, they can print in 11 dimensions

[@rymanjones3]

so cool how the darts just go *zhoop* to the back when it's primed

[@mattie_y]

z h o o p

[@rymanjones3]

@@mattie_y thanks for the reply! :D ive been watching since your first video i believe, and you've got a long way to go with as creative and inventive as you are. You're bound to be big one day, keep it up man

[@explosioncatsandknives7747]

New word added to the urban dictionary

[@rymanjones3]

@@explosioncatsandknives7747 lol bet

[@wendieghostie]

Can you make your next nerf gun in 4d?

[@mattie_y]

i would but you’d need a 3D screen to watch the video

[@TheFishe]

@@mattie_y just get a hologram, easy!

[@aaronsweaney]

i got a vr headset

[@Neuro_nActivation]

@@mattie_y can you make a 1D gun then?

[@danielreed5199]

@@Neuro_nActivation He can just cut his 3D gun into 3 pieces, I am sure that is the way it works.

[@nirodha7028]

‘We’ used to call those hopper fed :-) You’ve created a reverse hopper. I like it. Regardless… the suction feeding back into her breech is what exited me most… That’s what makes this thing crazy simple and perfectly sealed! Well done.

[@mattie_y]

indeed, this is based off of aeromech’s nerfhaven post about the “reverse wye”

[@nicolasreed21]

oh shit it's the snipercore dude!

[@Bluesonofman]

Now make this lethal

[@amydoesart3724]

"reverse bulpup" have to be the best way i ever saw someone describing a tube magazine

[@RocketRandoRedneck]

I think it may be different from a tube magazine like a shotgun would have because that is derectly. Into the action this slides. Down the barrel to go to the action ye catchin my drift

[@austinmarshalldad]

The first five (5) shorts are much quicker with the mag, so it is still worth using - very cool!

[@aboriginite]

He can also shave some time off by improving his reload method. Instead of grabbing each dart individually, grabbing several at a time would speed it up by simplifying things. That's just a matter of drilling himself, otherwise the magazine mechanism works great

[@11TerrariaKid]

He could theoretically make a speedloader for the mag.

[@StrelitziaLiveries]

he could just make more copies of this and have extra mags

[@dustinbrueggemann1875]

The two total time measurements were definitely within the range of noise as well. With some improvements in technique and eliminating the bottlenecks, such as keeping the darts somewhere controlled instead of loose in his pockets, and the magazine has an enormous potential to outperform.

[@anthonycannet1305]

The problem is you’re taking the time to refill the magazine. If you print out 3 magazines and pre-fill each with 5 darts, then you’ll save time from the control by swapping magazines instead of reloading 5 darts at a time. Also, it might be possible to put the magazine below the barrel and ready the next dart when you pull back. Pulling back would push the next dart to the tip of the barrel, pushing it forward would suck the dart back inside the barrel ready to be fired. This way the profile of the gun is smaller with the magazine attachment instead of sticking out even farther. Plus you could make the dart storage part of the magazine removable to make reloading faster by just clipping another tube full of darts into place

[@squashiejoshie200000]

Even just grabbing 5 darts from his pocket to load the full magazine at once would shorten his load time by 5-10 seconds. Making a tube clip to load into the magazine would bring his 15 second reloads down to 2-3 seconds.

[@inoroth2001]

Also, it might help to have the magazine gravity fed instead of having to do such a long and unnatural motion each time he reloads

[@dezthedapper1181]

The advantage of magazines isn't so much that you "fire faster" it is that you can either fire faster in blocks of shooting followed by reloading that one magazine, or quickly swapping pre-loaded magazines.

[@Dingus_Khaan]

It's essentially the difference between having a breech-loading single-barreled shotgun and a pump-action shotgun. A pump-action takes longer to reload, but you can fire off a bunch of rounds in succession.

[@Czarro672]

I think if you place the magazine above the barrel then it would load automatically without having to tilt the whole blaster. You could also make the magazine point in the opposite direction of the barrel to make it shorter and more maneuverable.

[@onlinepanic2036]

How would you prevent the entire magazine from dumping into the tube though.

[@austinsparks4561]

making the mag point the opposite direction of the barrel would make it impossible for the darts to load tho. the tip of the dart would hit the barrel and it would just get stuck.

[@ReddwarfIV]

@@austinsparks4561 That's not what they meant.

[@snerttt]

​​@@onlinepanic2036On the initial motion of priming, toggle a 2 door airlock mechanism that simultaneously blocks all the darts from falling and allows one to fall into the barrel. You know real guns with the mag above the barrel exist already. 😂

[@letsgo529]

ok so even though the test was "longer", having a mag fed system. Lets say if you were to actually go into a nerf field where other people are also running 3d printed(some custom) and modded nerf blasters, having a mag gives a speed and convenience advantage for WHEN you have rounds in the magazine which i would argue "makes it faster" in a sense.

[@dustinbrueggemann1875]

it also keeps the weapon in hand and closer to a ready state than the single-shot. It has the opportunity to improve both quantity and quality of fire in one upgrade, and that will have a drastic effect on battlefield performance. It also makes cover more valuable, as you can ready more shots while in cover, and have less wasted time while out of it.

[@the_ginjaninja2377]

I feel like there’s some way to use a more normal style of magazine with this but it would definitely make it overly complicated. It’s a really cool and unique blaster. I quite like it

[@dustinbrueggemann1875]

He's already got a pump action element, so he could probably implement a backwards trapdoor magazine. The only real oddity of this magazine is where it's placed though. Gravity-fed magazines were fairly common in their day.

[@mythicnja]

where'd you get your printer?!!!?!?!? id love to print in multiple dimensions!

[@thomasseamenacetoysgamesan155]

HOW IS THIS 5 DAYS AGO WHEN THE VIDEO IS 2?

[@mattie_y]

members get to watch early heh

[@wig6534]

out of curiosity - what does the 4 setting on your printer do?

[@mattie_y]

oh you dont wanna know

[@some_random_toaster]

​@@mattie_y It sets it to 4, i assume?

[@mattie_y]

bingo

[@captcade2913]

Inter-dimensional nerf blasters (shoot people through dimensions)

[@Crlarl]

​@@captcade2913 They did something like that in an episode of _Deep Space Nine._

[@ScienceFoxxy]

This idea is very cool, maybe try placing the bayonet at a different angle so gravity won’t affect the dart’s ability to enter the chamber

[@FireNinja7365]

Swappable magazines

[@rextransformation7418]

Subbed for the hilarious chaotic overlapping voiceovers!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@marckart66]

Subbed. Love this sort of stuff. Love your direct approach to talking about the project.

[@evelawless5480]

I'd suggest either multiple magazines or a quick feed tube that let's you just pop the cap off and dump five more rounds. And to feed straight muzzle loading quicker, you could have an ammo holder clipped to the side of the gun so you don't have to fish rounds out.

[@Eulemunin]

Good old Y hoppers. Interesting variation.

[@balloonrat7274]

best part is that it actually sounds like a gun

[@Felix-ic1fc]

The concept reminds me alot of those experimental weapons done in WW1

[@robby-8625]

Great video. Not surprised by the test results but as some people have mentioned only having one magazine only gives you a rate of fire advantage until you have to reload. Anyway I can’t wait to see what you do next great work! :)

[@dtester]

Pretty cool! Having a side saddle ammo carrier will speed up both reloads styles. Also, maybe you can mimic a pump action shotgun technique. People will switch to single reload shooting when the tub mag is empty so it's the best of both worlds.

[@calvinrogers1850]

You could knock a lot of time off by making the movements to rack the weapon smoother, and could save time by printing three "magazines" as well.

[@faraday9234]

Make a toggle lock that only lets a dart through when you pull back the pump and only lets one through at a time so you can spring load the tube and make multiple replaceable tubes. Sounds complicated but would be fairly simple. It would eliminate the possibility of a dart hitting the next round in the chamber on its way out, and you having to rock the whole gun backward each shot. Try a version before stated above version where the tube isn't straight down but 15 degrees down so you can just tilt it.

[@duke605]

Remember. switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading

[@SuperEmmetMan]

Was looking for this

[@rafis117]

One potentially big point to improve on is that the tube still seems to basically have to do the single reload motion every shot. So you’re actually doing that motion 20% more in the tube mag version than in the single shot version. Maybe if you had valves at the end of both of the Y branches, and the pump action closed one valve and opened the other cyclically, you could fully chamber a round from the pump without tilting the gun up.

[@thepacific2933]

it needs a mechanism that feeds the ammo to the main barrel, maybe a trigger at the pumping hand that you first press to get 1 dart to the barrel and then suck. the weird tilt and getting stuck would dissapear

[@Yubulyme]

This just feels like a musket with extra steps

[@tanputt]

There is a lot of very easy techniques you could implement that would improve your time with the mag, pumping the blaster while raising the barrel, counting your shots...

[@psychopiper8224]

So happy to see you up at 35k, been here since your first video and I commented on how you were the next big DIY/engineering KZbinr. Turns out I was right, congratulations!

[@mattie_y]

thanks!

[@grimmington2569]

Surely, you could find a way to use the Venturi effect or, on a larger scale, some other application of Bernoulli's principle to make it so you don't have to tilt the blaster up to load from the magazine tube.

[@ConcerningReality]

Great video! You really have something here. I think there's a lot more content, and versions, to be made of this Kirby blaster. Keep it up!

[@sacb0y]

Maybe if you widen the "muzzle" and put some sort of flap there to effectively seal it you wouldn't need to tilt it back every shot, cause it would be sealed enough to let the suction do it's job.

[@skye1491]

I love this blaster so much! It keeps getting better!

[@lupin9038]

you should make a dart holder for quicker loading, i like the muzzle load design over the mag design

[@flaccidpringle]

Reminds me of some of those gravity-fed parlor guns I read about once. Quite funny that you've more or less translated an existing gun gimmick to Nerf so seamlessly.

[@cosmonious]

Best nerf KZbin alive rn

[@DavidSRJR]

So cool! I saw you randomly recommended on my front page and I am loving this! Would having it top fed not work and let gravity do some of the work? Or have part of it come off so you can treat it like a real magazine and quick reload it that way?

[@GerinoMorn]

A follower could be useful. Alternatively some sort of a one-way valve on barrel, so that during suction phase it would pull air via the magazine.

[@AliceAXP]

this is so awesome, if you find a way to give the mag a spring/interchangeable mags this thing would be so awesomer, it can almost be like a pump action shotgun

[@Davie-jx4rh]

Kinda cool, is there a way you could have it reversed in the opposite direction to be more compact? An idea I initially had was on the pullback the tube would move with the barrel and encounter a fixed wedge, forcing the darts up on the pullback, keeping tension with a light spring, and reloading using the Henry tab method, then sealing the feed hole in the barrel with a small tube that fit around it it and was fixed to the stock I’m not sure I can articulate it perfectly with simply words, but good luck with the design

[@robots9146]

This is so cool! Reloading the magazine takes a while, but there are probably ways to fix that - some people suggested replaceable magazines, or maybe it might be possible to make it curve around so the opening faces towards you (not sure how wide the bend would have to be for the darts to move freely though, and it'd probably look a bit silly) I wonder if there's a way to create a one-way valve at the end of the barrel that wouldn't slow down or interfere with the dart? Cause then you could pair it with a second valve on the end of the magazine, facing the opposite direction, so you wouldn't need to tip the darts back into the barrel before sucking them in. Though that might make it hard to ensure that only one dart gets loaded at a time.

[@BigBrainAFK]

if the barrel had a n outtube the length of the fully retracted barrel you could have rectabgular holes in both and prob make a mechanism that would hold more traditional magazines as sliding the barrel forward to retract a bullet from the mag feed would create an air tight gap again. this way you dont need to lift the front for the next dart to follow and you can do way faster reloads. i havent tried building this but it at least seems plausible to me.

[@pinchpeak5203]

If the magazine was straight instead of curved, and was mounted on the top instead of the bottom, you could cycle the gun without tipping it back (because gravity). You could easily make an iron sight that goes above or to the side of the magazine. Btw, keeping a small handful of darts in your left hand while firing the single shot will make it so you don't have to reach in your pocket each time.

[@matthewzeller5026]

Awesome video that I didn't know I needed. You get a sub. Something to note is that while you have to reach your pocket every time with the original, with the mag you should try grabbing multiple at a time. This might not help because it could be harder to load it handling multiple darts but I'm curious.

[@luisrosado7050]

the concept is there, but a few flaws like tilting the gun up to get the bullet in which can be fixed by using either gravity or a spring to feed faster, and the fact you didn't just detatch the magazine to reload

[@sugoitaka6963]

i feel if you just had multiple magazines you could just take off and put the next one on it'd obviously be better then self reloading the mag every time, that being said this is a cool creation and gives me musket vibes :3

[@kokurothegreat70]

fun to see stuff that happens to real guns in a video like this! your test actually pretty much perfectly replicates trials that happened at the end of the 1800s which resulted in the tube magazines that you would normally see on lever actions and early bolt action repeaters being replaced by the box magazines we see today (easier to make speedloaders and detachable mags). The problem is that most tube magazines have to be loaded one at a time which means that really youre just staging a bunch of single loads, so it gives you a quick burst of fire but a long reload time in between. if you made a speedloader of some sort for this you would definitely see an improvement. anyways, neat design!

[@munchobell2890]

i suggest making it interchangable and add a spring to it, so the ammunition gets put in the line of the barrel increase firing rate, and accuracy

[@Maxirel]

You could try making the mag split out of a L like bend instead of a S. Cut barrel make it closer, if necessary add more barrel after the bend. Make the mag stick out to the left side. When reloading simply twist the blaster 90 degrees to right, mag goes up so gravity pushes darts down, twist back, pull-push and shoot. If you make tube mag you could reload from the side to :). Great video, very cool and powerful mechanism.

[@joekyu2517]

i think having a spring or something to push the bullets out of the mag slightly so u dont have to tip it might have made it faster, also maybe having the "mag" be detatchable so u can just hold multiple of them that are already full and just pop it on the end

[@LOLWUT281]

Some kind of spring/string mechanism that advances the darts by one spot would help you shoot faster, as it would get rid of the convoluted song and dance you do to get one dart into the barrel. A sliding piston connected to a latch that catches every inch or so for each dart. You'd cut a slot in the magazine so the piston can be controlled with an incrementing mechanism. Maybe a cartridge with these stops would be better still. the next bullet or piston can be used to help seal off the barrel. Press a button and a spring/latch pushes up the piston by one dart/ or 1/4th an inch.

[@Infinitetimer74]

You gotta do the “I own a musket for home defense” with this, it’d be so funny

[@ohshi5402]

Just need to make a nerf grapeshot cannon first.

[@Infinitetimer74]

@@ohshi5402 yeah

[@chonk_melonk]

You could try a lightweight spring system in the magazine and multiple magazines to maximize firerate

[@HwhatDaHyell]

You could make a stripperclip like thing to reload the mag faster and just keep a bunch of those stripperclips on you!

[@asadpepe4282]

the magazine is slower because you are basically reloading the gun twice, one when you restock the mag and again each time you reload the actual chamber

[@simulacrumgames]

You are exactly the kind of person I want playing my game. Subbing to steal inspiration from you on mechanics to implement 👍

[@legsbuckles]

I like your experiment guidelines at 4:00. Several mags to factor in reload time. With more practice you could get really quick with it. I guarantee the mag is faster because of less movement once the routine is ironed out.

[@ExpectingSafety]

I’d consider something like a Rotating 6 cylinder revolving mag at the end of the barrel, that turns either manually or as part of the stroke of the front pull. Literally could be as simple as a piece of string and a ratchet.

[@Peluceus]

-Pulling the rack only BACK as you load in the first dart (in the same way you would start reloading an empty shotgun; half rack, insert, rack back) would not only give you a +1 but also remove a redundant action -if you could find a mechanism to seal the firing barrel while you are working the action, you could use air pressure from the non-sealed mag tube to load instead of gravity. The only problem is the action would need to be pretty intricate to know when to use air from the firing barrel again so the suction doesn't just inhale all the rounds into the barrel. I think taking some inspiration from the AK47 gas blowback system to make a sort of blowforwards system might be a good source of inspiration? I think that system would need to be installed inside the magazine itself, if I had to guess, probably somewhere between the length of the first and second dart. But ultimately having the darts be in a predictable location (such as through springs) would probably be the best way to ensure reliability. Interesting concept though all things considered

[@giga-ratsey1420]

I’d recommend making the tube backwards where you can just angle it down to feed a dart, or just make the barrel shorter and have it extend past the tube to make it a bit less wonky looking.

[@smokeydops]

if you added a follower to the magazine, it'd be faster, but in that case you need to either add a loading gate or detach it to reload it

[@AresN7]

Definitely the biggest thing is the amount of time it takes you to load the magazine. You just need a "clip" that lets you load darts into the magazine faster.

[@iPhroggy]

i think the whole intentionality of a magazine is to have more than one of them in your person, had you had 3 magazines and been operating at full speed i truthfully believe the discrepancy between times would be astronomical, the design is amazing down to the extra run length for longevity of darts

[@UndeadPasta]

The Y-Tho Bow from Artificial Armory has a similar magazine design. It's easily my favorite blaster since you literally use it like a full-sized bow that shoots darts instead of arrows

[@austinsparks4561]

you should create some sort of loading linkage where when you pull back the charging handle it pulls a dart into the barrel and then when you push it forward it sucks it back like normal. you could stack them on top of each other and have a little linkage from the handle to the stacked magazine and when you pull back it also pulls back a finger in a slot in the magazine that pulls the round into the barrel. now i wish i had a 3d printer so i could make this, lmao edit: you could also spring load the magazine so theyre forced down towards the loading finger instead of relying on gravity feeding, as well as maybe just making a classic magazine where you can swap it out. youd really get some speed out of it that way.

[@Somerandomperson42132]

Just 3d print more magazines. Faster than having to load the magazine manually. So like pull the empty one out and add another one in. That's why the magazines took longer.

[@Foxtrot_UniformCharlieKilo]

The benefit of having a system that doesnt involve reloading after each shot (magizines, internal/nondetatchable mags, belts) is that you can put more rounds down range in a short window, because (even manualy moving) the action will always be faster than reloading a round, and then moving the action. The benefit of a magizine specifically, is that it is the quickest way to replenish anywhere from 15 to 50 bullets within a firearm, in roughly the time it would take you to reload 1 or 2.

[@jameswaterfield]

A weak spring to push the darts into position would allow for a simple pump action

[@SomeRandomSausage]

You know how the dart that pierced the walls’ head shot off? It would be crazy if they made a dart specifically to punch a hole, then expel the head, kinda like an armour piercing round.

[@Wesrl]

I could see just strapping darts to it being more viable with either set up. The main thing slowing stuff down is reaching in to your pocket. If the darts were on the blaster you can see then reach

[@worshipperoftheolympians6011]

I would recommend making the magazine removable

[@KylejvT]

The "Simplest" way to turn this into a magazine fed nerfgun would be just after the bend where it straightens out again to have that as a separate tube with a slightly over tolerance fit that's held in place with two magnets. Once its empty its easy to pull off and the new tube-mag will self align back on.

[@Ilikeliquids]

I think if you figured out a way to put a very light spring in the magazine or just put the magazine on top possibly you wouldn't have to worry about tilting the gun back everytime

[@bytmo]

you should make it so that you dont have to tilt your gun back to chamber another round because if you aim upwards a bullet will be in the way of the chambered round and it would be much faster than the hand loaded way

[@bricegately]

you should be testing with multiple magazines, also an advantage of the magazine is you can still single load when the tubes empty if you dont have time for a full reload

[@ProductBasement]

You need a follower in the magazine or some sort of valve that enables you to load from the magazine using suction

[@agressively_wi7053]

now the experiment should be with separate magazines, have a few on hand will cut the reload time down significantly

[@Mischievous_Moth]

You could flare the loading end of the magazine to make it easier to load

[@omicronixzerus2929]

the mag isn't to increase your overall fire rate, it's to allow multiple shots in rapid succession without reloading. Also you can load multiple shots into the mag at once, which you did once, but never repeated. Loading single shots in succession will always be about as fast as muzzle loading, but taking a handful and shoving them in the magazine will be faster if you're skilled.

[@H-pajro]

I would move the magazine closer to the cylinder and make it longer + spring loaded (faster + easier to load a new round) It may need some prototyping but awesome idea, I really liked it!

[@fredxvi]

Also is it possible to add a spring to the mad so you dont have to shake the gun just to feed a bolt into the chamber? If you gad that in place it could be alot cleaner to fire follow up shots. You could add a spring with a small plunger, or you could make it so when the trigger is pulled there is a bolt dropper into the chamber by gravity. I feel like the suctioj action is awesome but there are some better alternatives for a magazine to go with this.

[@Abannanapeel]

Few improvements you maybe could consider, spring loading the magazine & making a button or wind up to cycle new rounds (it would make the gun awkward since the mechanism would need to span the length of the barrel so maybe electronic button?), and making the reload consist changing mags, rather than manually reloading individual bullets. Though some of these ideas go without knowledge of any limitations you've set on yourself. Amazing video regardless.

[@benaverkamp1408]

The issue is loading individual darts at a time, you wanna be able to swap filled magazines rather than fill the same one

[@WojciechP915]

It makes such comical *slurp- pahp* noises.

[@moss-vi6pm]

if you increased the barrel size to take rival it would be easy to hook up to a hopper

[@wubforceone]

one of the benefits of having magazines is having a bunch on hand. hand reloading the magazine each time is obviously gonna be slow. you should have had 3 mags ready to go. would have been a far better comparison. also i feel like you could have moved alot faster too in both cases. so thats another variable.

[@Pro_Bad_Influence]

You could try putting a spring in the magazine so you don't have to tilt the gun upwards after each shot.

[@longdarkrideatnight]

You could also make a speed loader that would allow you to load 5 at a time.

[@mossi5976]

That tube magazine might not improve your fire rate overall but it gives you more shots in bursts. Might also consider single loading and keeping the mag in reserve for sticky moments in your next Nerd battle

[@axoloot294]

You could try a spring loaded magazine for the v3, or put the magazine on the top of the barrel

[@edwardmanning-ef1hw]

try making a spring design where as instead of having to lift the entire gun to get the next bullet into the chamber the spring will push it there instead

[@That3th3]

A couple new benefitial changes would be: Spring loaded firing mechanism. You can probs do it with a slide that exposes the mag to the barrel and letting the spring extend a bit more when priming the firing mechanism, it closes when you pull the plunger forwards again and suck a dart. A magazine quick swap mechanism. Either with a speed loader or a new cylinder. I recommend speed loaders since they are fast, easy and take less filament to produce a lot of.

[@nidhu595]

to increase the speed a bit, you could possibly put the magazine on TOP of the barrel so you don't have to tilt the gun up to reload every time?

[@spiritusterra5688]

Agreed. Though, with its current design, I would think simply flipping it upside down would not entirely remove the need to tilt. It might work if the front part of the magazine was angled so that gravity alone would move the darts. It would also be able to have a crosshair/scope attached to it.

[@smeggie42]

A problem i see with that is it would need a way to only load 1 dart at a time. Otherwise they would all slide down and jam

[@liamgrube2541]

I feel like if you put a spring in it so that it would push darts in line so that they could get suctioned into the barrel it would be more effective

[@Vindictator1972]

The point of a mag/clip system for ammunition is that they’re easily replaced, not reloaded. You don’t manually fill an M134 each time you’re about to fire it for 12 seconds, that’s what the Armoury is for. Also you can 100% load the mag faster than you did in the test. If you’re loading 5 pull a handful out and load them in and store the extra, pulling them out individually to reload is the same as just musket firing each time when the guys who used single shots in the US Civil War lost to the guys who had guns that could repeatedly send shot down range.