Testing New World Part 2: Weapon Damage | Gem Scaling | Bugged Skills & Perks | "Grit" & CC

[@FinchFinley]

You should be paid by AGS for doing what their testers should do... No joking. Good work, grab a like and sub!

[@SWATareTHOSE87]

No because he completely forgot that there are perks with certain attributes like 150 int gives 15% more elemental damage which scales gem damage

[@loyalitaeter]

@Goon If you would've listen to the video you should've know that he didn't test all by far and that he paused the video because it was a lot of information already. This is one of many videos and only a small part of what has been tested and has to be tested. And he still tested more than AGS' testers lol

[@proximity5771]

dude you're not getting enough recognition for your work, it's off the chart i love you

[@MorrolanTV]

i love you too

[@CapitanBreakfast]

Thank you very much for your combined efforts into bringing so many issues to light. You and everyone who helped you are small goldmines for Amazon and I trully wish they will compensate you for your efforts, testing this boken alfa build they released. Keep up the good work, you are getting noticed even by the almighty algorithm.

[@naz4154]

This is crazy. First of all, amazing content and testing. It always shocks me that large companies often cannot do work like this and some person who isn’t paid to do it always ends up doing. It’s just ridiculous, but is the same for every company it seems. Apathy everywhere. It really see no excuse for this many bugs after so much time for them to get the basics right. Makes no sense that we have this many things broken

[@michaelmano7261]

@Deni Duncan hahaha. Just leaves a shit ton of bugs and missinformation in the game then goes and makes KZbin videos about a calculator so you can make sense of it all.

[@grimmcquade]

its so nice to see content from ya again, i remember when i watched the BDO videos way back in the day.

[@roulettezoku]

Man, as a healer main I’m looking forward to part 3! Thanks so much for all the testing and knowledge!

[@sjohnc]

really appreciate these videos, saw you in a clip compilation and found your channel earlier today before the upload and I was disappointed but now I see you've just been collecting data before spouting off, good job.

[@ChadElbandagji]

Exactly how I found this dude.

[@majinmesun]

Same

[@Tenkin211]

Thanks! Just knowing the actual state of the games helps me keep playing simply because it's better than being in the dark.

[@MyAssassin36]

The purpose for conversion gems is to benefit the damage type bonuses. The damage is the same between different tier gems because we're assuming that they are both hitting neutral damage. But let's say you equip a T2 sapphire gem for 20% conversion to arcane. If you hit a corrupted mob which takes 130% extra damage against arcane then only 20% of that conversion damage will benefit from the 130% damage type bonus. Now if you slot in a Tier5 Sapphire gem it will convert 50% of your damage to arcane which will have a bigger impact by that 130% damage type bonus against the corrupted.

[@Haldri.]

yeah i dont understand why ppl dont get this

[@AUserName-fv8zj]

Yeah exactly, this is the overall purpose of the gems, to convert damage types. It isn't surprising that the overall damage is the same against a 0 resistance opponent as all it's doing is converting damage types. This is how it works and how I expected it to work. As for INT gems on INT weapons/builds, it seems clear to me that they just used the same calculations in this scenario which results in more output damage on a T2 because it reduces base damage by less, which is a multiplier on every elemental gem, i.e. (Level dmg + Attribute dmg) - (1 - multiplier). Higher the multiplier (higher tier gem) the less the overall dmg. This is definitely unintended and a result of: 1) Using the same calc for gems in all scenarios. That calc works perfectly fine for all other scenarios. 2) Not considering that players will put an INT converting gem on their already INT scaled build. Or not caring that on release it will cause weird damage outputs. It's sloppy and involves cutting corners but it gets your product to release faster. What this has caused though is players thinking T2 gems are the best in every scenario, which is just not the case.

[@Harambre]

So if I put a tier 4 aqua marine in my IG that’s better than the tier 4 malachite? Wtf?

[@AUserName-fv8zj]

@@Harambre Use t2 aquamarine. Low tier Int gems on int weapons/builds are better than high tier. Also depends how often the enemy is CCd to proc the malachite.

[@Liquid_Rage]

@@AUserName-fv8zj not exactly, the gem's converted magic damage does not gain full benefit from all crit damage multipliers your main fire or ice will as he stated around 4:30. You'll notice that most of the time it's a 50/50 split (with the t5 gem) on damage for light/heavy, but fireball/pillar will see a 60/40 fire/arcane or 70/30 on crits (I'm not sure which abilities' crit multiplier talents/base crits are not applying correctly, but just for example). I did notice this yesterday while fighting things but didn't realize what was happening, and didn't keep track of which abilities were seeing reduced crit on the gem elemental portion, and therefore reduced total crit damage overall.

[@macdon2351]

Subscribed. I will watch every second of every video you make around these topics.

[@Fevir]

What fantastic eyebrows this KZbinr has.

[@Littlecrunchy]

He said if the vid gets a certain amount of likes he will shave his head.... looks like that is normal for him. Perhaps he should shave his eyebrows and make some of us pout?

[@Fevir]

@@Littlecrunchy YES!

[@MDUBZ]

Those are some nice brows

[@Bugbite0656]

Oh shit you're Alive. Used to watch all you're videos. Hope you're doing well!

[@tkismik8146]

Finally! We now have proof that nothing works in this game! Keep the good work up! We certainly missed you since BDO.

[@spook1366]

Thanks for all the effort figuring this out. And the shaving head comment caught me off guard! Good shit

[@jeremydalumpines2125]

Never knew Johnny Sins did tons of research on New World!

[@J.Mas.]

I don't see many people talking about the Ice Gauntlet, but Ice storm and Ice Shower with the Heavy Freeze passive and/or Unending Thaw perk will also perma-stun. Every heavy attack while affected by Ice Storm or Frostbite (debuff from Ice Shower, which lasts 3 seconds), will freeze you for 1 second, and there is no cooldown for this to proc. There definitely needs to be a period of time after a stun that you are fully resistant to them. I main spear, and like you mentioned, with just Sweep, Vault Kick, and the CD reduction after a dodge perk, I can permanently stun you.

[@ErrantObserver]

Here's a fun one: the Unending Thaw perk on ice gauntlet weapons completely breaks the ice storm skill and it no longer does damage over time. As long as something is inside the damage area they only get one tic of damage. Leaving and entering the damage area of effect does seem to cause damage to tic again.

[@alverun9355]

an extra fun bit: spamming crouch makes you take a ton more dmg from ice storm or fireball ground damage, every time your character goes down or up you take an extra tick of damage that hits for ~10% more in ice storm, or regular damage from fireball ground damage

[@MrBnaan]

@@alverun9355 this game lmao 😂 it takes a PhD in minmaxing to become successful

[@petemisc4291]

This is great stuff, I just put a t2 amber in my great axe! Now, the problem is, they will eventually get around to fixing the t2-t5 gems and the spread sheet will need to be tuned.

[@mbauerlein4537]

Glad to see you pushing technical New World testing/content.

[@alexbaskov]

this is great stuff, thanks! "you would expect to see -10% from a crit multiplier to go from 1.4 to 1.3" -- i would expect it to go from 1.4 down to 1.26. but yeah, like you explain in the video most of those numbers seen on weapon and various boosts and multipliers work totally different than anyone would expectt)) amazon should just give us formulas for all of it :D waiting for some sort of dummies with numbers and/or dmg meters addon or what not, to actually see what's going on and so everyone could be able to test all this themselves.

[@Incaeduus]

8:03 great tip for Great Axe users 👍🏿

[@Schlawonz]

Very informative. Subscribed after the two testing videos 👍

[@swaginihoudini1509]

Just a heads up to anyone who has not figured out why the tier 2 elemental gem deals more damage than the t5 elemental gem The 20% elemental gems still has 70% of its damage scaling from the weapon's primary / secondary attribute. This translates to that weapon getting a higher base damage overall as long as you have points spent on those specific attributes and thus the converted damage ends up bigger as well. Very Important: keep in mind though that this only works like this if you have spent points in a weapon's main attribute. this is reflected in the calculator as well if you instead try using a Greataxe with an int gem You will notice that at 5 strength, both the greataxe with a tier 2 gem and a tier 5 gem actually deals the same total damage but increase your strength, and you will notice that the greataxe with a tier 2 gem is now slightly dealing more damage. Key takeaway here is that as long as you have attribute points spent towards a weapon's main or secondary stat, tier 2 elemental gems would end up giving you a higher total damage p.s Nice video my man. You are one of the most informative new world channels I've watched definitely underrated. Sub from me! Cheers

[@scottybeats5328]

Note for the Stun and Knockdown section: When someone is flattened or "KO'ed" you can in fact break the animation but it's with staggers. they stand up immediately to do the animation for the stagger.

[@dom_1200]

its great to be watching your resourceful videos again

[@kingfami8537]

Thanks for the in depth analysis, really appreciate it

[@geargrinder5172]

From my own brief testing with T2 gems in the firestaff, the damage did drastically increase on auto attacks, however the damage also took a significant decrease when it came to abilities.

[@joshuamarcocchi4447]

what gem did you use if i may ask :)

[@MorrolanTV]

New findings seem to indicate that Fireball and Ice Spike specifically lose damage when converting. Not sure why yet, gotta do more testing

[@Jan_Nicolaisen]

@@MorrolanTV First thing that comes to mind is the skills scaling with Fire Damage only, or Ice damage only, etc. Thus, converting a portion of the damage to another element simply removes it from the calculations (or includes it, but borks the scaling).

[@Erumyr]

Maybe use a RUBY have you tested that, and RUBY T5 too?

[@kurii-]

I could be wrong, but the calculator is flawed because it doesn't take into account the attribute milestones. For example 150 INT gives 15% elemental damage, but comparing 149 to 150 INT in the calculator gave just a 2 damage difference to Great Axe. For this reason, a T5 gem will be better than a T2 gem in non-INT weapons if you have at least 150 INT. I would also like to add that some skills do not work well with conversion gems. For example Ice Gauntlet's Ice Storm only takes into account the conversion on the first hit and then some random hits afterwards, but not all hits. But the light and heavy attacks always convert.

[@TupacalipseT96]

**The 20% burn duration and fortify on burn passives from firestaff were not working for me testing last night. When you have a chance, a video on CC true combos would be super useful. Like, what can be done guaranteed during a knockdown? Weapon swap into which attacks work and don't work? I have a hunch that hammer flatten lasts slightly longer than spear sweep and allows some swap attacks that aren't possible with spear, but I haven't been able to test. Certain stuns (sword, hammer, riposte) allow weapon swap into big abilities from other weapons while other stuns (spear) are not long enough (in light armor, maybe this changes with heavy??). But 2 seconds seems to be the golden number. Is the knockdown from Clear Out the same duration as Javelin? This kind of frame data opens up all kinds of theory-crafting. Cheers

[@LoneBluesman]

Good stuff bro! Some of these including the armors ones completely changes the meta on wars lol looking forward to the healing vid 👍👍

[@keyb0at]

fire and ice mage here. yes ive been testing a lot of stuff and this game also broke my brain. i can confirm what you said about the ice storm and empower fireball perk.

[@Calresio]

Phenomenal videos. Thank you very much for putting in the work. Looking forward to more

[@mitchneal5981]

This is such great info, thanks! Shared with my company.

[@dingabinga2723]

real solid content my dude

[@wyldcard69]

We were doing a test on the dmg increase for swords when they get 20% more dmg on slowed targets. The 20% figured out from the base potential dmg, not on the actual damage done it seems. Thought that was an interesting little nugget of how the damage is actually calculated.

[@McBee_CH]

Fantastic work right here.

[@alderius2190]

Thanks for all this extensive testing!

[@ubaru]

Great and informative video, thank you for your hard work and testing!

[@AledMify]

Fantastic video. Would love to see a written compliation of all the bugs youve discovered too.

[@nib6383]

Very useful and well presented info, nice video :)

[@crankpatate3303]

Hey man, thanks for sharing your discoveries. Say a big thanks to the whole team behind you from me, too! Now to the real question: Does shaving your head at 5000 likes include your bushy eye brows? ;)

[@Mikihsa]

Hello Rapier user here. I'm using T5 gems and the damage are converted normally as of 1.1. Without the 150 INT perk I can witness the exact same numbers in Thrust/Elemental with a T5 gem, as it should work (converting 50% of the damage to elemental), even with perk such as final perk in the Grace tree (increasing Light/heavy attacks damage) or other such type of perks. When I add in the 150 INT perk (playing 200 DEX + 150 INT) as well as Elemental perk on Ring it start doing enormous amount of damage. It seems that the Rogue perk does apply to these elemental damage, multiplicatively, with all other elemental damage modifier (Type vulnerability, 150 INT perk, Ring elemental Perk, etc.) Idk if you did some more testes recently but it seems a lot of things have been fixed/changed recently.

[@arcanine_059]

But does a T2 do more dmg overall than a T5 after patch? That's the real question here.

[@mariusenigma1783]

Hi all, thank you for the good stuff here. Well, what should i say ... Indeed, a lot of things don't work well, as intended. But ... like in any other games out there, there are some issues to discuss, that work verry well but are overpowered. The player are olways verry inventive in playstyle and will allways look for the best possible combination to be better than the oponent (don't speak of cheats). For example the icegountlet ... when you catch someone in the icestorm, the char is slowed and take dmg, but if you cast a heavy attack on him, he will be stunned for one sec., in effect you can just spam endless heavy attacks on him till he dies, becouse he will stay stunned till the death escapes him from pain. There are a lot of combination with all weapons, that if timed well, there is no escape, other the death. Now i wrote a lot ... The game is just some weeks old and there are and will be a lot of things to be fixed and the devs will do theyr job well (as intended 😇). Greetings, Marius

[@cActUsjUiCe92]

Wonderful video. Thanks for all this information!

[@couchlion]

Really love your content man and appreciate the effort and work put into these videos. Very well done

[@drshepherd6567]

Hahahah, yeah that was indeed a lot of info. Thanks. Now my brain is overheated and stunned but not staggered! XD

[@NovaMage]

Amazing work. Good info and good tool as well

[@LionUnchained]

It's pretty baffling how broken this game is. I think the list of things that work may be shorter than the list of things that don't.

[@ImLqzr]

Definitely deserved the sub great video!

[@octobeastX]

doing gods work my dude. thx

[@JamesCh.]

How's it looking after the new patch? Any plas for next videos?

[@FunElite]

I can confirm, Empowered from accumulated power and relentless fury hatchet talents only increase none converted dmg (amber gem). While empowered stab from sword works.

[@seawolf2830]

Thank you for doing this research!

[@Revan619]

I imagine the being unable to do charged heavies on the greataxe is how they fixed the double hit bug that perk previously caused. Alot of your data seems to back up what a twitch streamer by the name of theeduelist has been saying since alpha. Might be worth getting in touch with him.

[@Uf0nius]

Something to take into account when considering to socket an INT gem into your firestaff: The fireball damage scaling for the gem part seems to be bugged. In other words, you end up doing less damage with fireball if you have a socketed int gem. Based on my findings at least.

[@GeoOoo7]

17:12 you can already 100-0 with knockdowns and stuns with just a spear kick for the stun, javelin headshot for knockdown + 50% refresh, sweep for another knockdown you can chain those back to back infinitely if you space them out enough

[@hilding2063]

Int conversion gems in int weapons are allowed to enable different damage types to take advantage of vulnerabilities

[@scrymglin]

Subbed. Great analysis. Now I have to revisit my great axe build. And gems - after slotting tier IV I feel ripped off. Looking forward to the heal video. I'm curious if a tier IV or tier II diamond in life staff is better. I think I'm gonna feel ripped off again.

[@SirLynX93]

Why shouldn't a elemental conversion gem not work with int weapons? Why can I not convert half of my damage to arcane to deal more damage against corrupted? Bugged yes.. But everything else makes perfect sense to me

[@MaTParisSG]

What a great work !

[@inferno1217]

I. LOVE. SPREADSHEETS.

[@matraym]

Hey, great video! Can we find out more about perks also? For example what if you have a perk for one of your skills, for example Sundering Shockwave and you have the same on your warhammer, which one counts? Will it multiply? Cause I believe Luck perks multiply, cooldown perks multiply, Resilient multiply, and the gems multiply. Another question, let's say I have Keen on both Great axe and Warhammer, will it multiply? Or only the perks apply on weapons which you are using at the time, the perks of your other weapon and them gem in that doesn't matter. So basically, can you multiply your crit chance or any perks by using the same perks on both weapons? Thank you in advance!

[@sicapelle904]

I believe perks on weapons only function for that weapon, so Keen on GA and Hammer will not stack since you can't have both active at the same time.

[@mikaelbillon9373]

Great vids, thanks !

[@MonkGames666]

Leg sweep - roll - spear throw - roll - vault kick - roll - repeat is a 247 stun with spear

[@NERDPotion]

Requested access to the calculator. trying to figure out a good source of damage for focus / nature

[@flamesjowel]

The craziest thing about this is that weapons that have intellect as a SECONDARY stat actually hits harder than a full DEX build. Compare a Musket / Rapier 300 dex no gem to 300 int with tier 2 INT gem converter and you will realize the intellect weapon hits more. That's straight up broken

[@Ready_Fire_Aim]

recently i tested ( 3rd jan, like a week ago) 390 int , light and medium. with firestaff u get absolutely no bonus. (numbers were like 2 or 4 dps different)

[@infinitechoices1641]

Rapier 300 int with gem is also better than rapier 300 dex. Also int has insane thresholds. Ice gauntlet + rapier looking mighty fine. Same goes for musket and the 300 int threshold is really good for musket. 300 INT 50 DEX is just INSANE threshold value

[@SWATareTHOSE87]

You're not taking into account that 150 int gives you 15% more elemental damage

[@Sgt_RED]

Cant wait for the healer video

[@nachobaronennachobaronen1705]

thanks for the testing

[@MorrolanTV]

np 👍

[@Mad_Peasant_King]

Was there a beta for this game? Because it sure feels like we are beta testing it now

[@TheSkyCries1]

awesome job

[@chrisxl5152]

Quite a bit of bugs. But ESO and WoW both went through similar problems during the first few months of release. It's alot of numbers and variables to get right. I hope Amazon gets a hold of these things by the hair.

[@Gravord85]

First perk of str doesnt add dmg to magic converted part of dmg on purpose. In beta players stacked this and 50 int to get double buff on both parts of damage. Was intentional change from AGS on that one. But the rest of this messed formulas...

[@raginteen]

that headset is consuming you.

[@eduardoschumann7007]

Could you test the 60 faction weapon vs 580 quest one? Mostly interested on the greataxe.

[@GeoOoo7]

johny sins now does educational new world math vids too i guess

[@JacobLeex]

*waits patiently for healing video*

[@TheCylonBomb]

Besides the armor weight healing buff, I can tell you that both the duration buffs in the skill tree and in the focus line don’t work properly. With both of those the beacon heal buff will count down from the proper time but end with about 4-5 seconds still on the buff.

[@R0cketsloth]

@@TheCylonBomb yep, noticed exactly the same thing, it's like beacon is hard-coded to end after a certain time

[@Theberusko]

Morrolan always ruining games! You and your math and tests, it was in BDO and now NW. Jokes aside, that's why i like you content, you go straight to the subject with facts, thanks!

[@cc66bb44]

hey morrolan with the advent of 1.05 im noticing a few things 1. all armor type seem have roughly the same mitigation now. 2. ice gauntlet ultimate chill seems to significantly amplify damage by a large amount. can you include this in part 3 thanks

[@nicholasgraves3149]

Does this calculator take into account the 15% elemental damage bonus from the Intelligence attribute node? I have tested a rapier on a dummy using t2 and t5 gems, and the t5 gem definitely does more damage because the 50% weapon damage that is dealing in this case Arcane damage is gaining an additional 15% from being an elemental damage type, and not just thrust anymore. A t2 gem with the 15% elemental damage boost should gain you 3% overall damage (.2*.15), and a t5 gem should gain you 7.5% overall damage (.5*.15).

[@MsMasterGama]

As a healer, should i be using focus gems rank 2?

[@trikz4044]

That 100k gold looking real juicy......

[@Rocityman]

Hoping this gets tons of traction so the devs fix the game.

[@wckdtrb]

There seems to be an error on the calculator. The 150 int perk of +15% elemental dmg is not being applied to the converted dmg (it does work in game)

[@scottybeats5328]

Does the calculator tally in the 150 int perk? the 15% bonus damage on elemental damage? I guess it directly adds to the conversion gem's proc damage.

[@zaxxys2470]

Ice Storm also doesnt deal any damage to Elite monsters after having punishing storm.

[@Hexavash]

Next thing you know we'll be finding weapon specific scaling like BDO where Hatchet does more damage to Spear users.

[@ryboy400]

I would absolutely love to see a healing video/test

[@appleox3652]

about the intellect gem that part does the damage from intellect gem damage will also boost by 150 intelligent perk which give you +15% elemental damage? btw love your video and eyebrows man.

[@James-sw8od]

I was wondering when calculating the int gem bonus dmg if the 150 int buff to magic dmg was taken into account or if it works? Thanks for all the great work on this. I love this kinda info.

[@MorrolanTV]

Perks aren't included but the 150 int perk does work, and seems to be in the same additive category as light armor and other non-empower damage bonuses

[@kolaiah7243]

I heard liking and leaving a comment was a good thing for the youtube algorithm

[@robin123gh]

So im looking at this int gem thing with muskets and the calculator is entirely wrong. The damage output is off by about 200 damage. In reality, no gem vs a t2 int gem has no total difference in damage at all (testing against the dummies in a fort). I wouldn't rely on this calculator

[@MorrolanTV]

can you post a screenshot of the calculator vs your in-game results? also, are you certain you have no perks affecting your damage?

[@IamXSublime]

Dude you should get a job at amazon and use this for your portfolio! what are your thoughts on using rapier/bow in a war?

[@MrQuqumber]

kinda need to disagree with one statement about t2 being better than t5 conversion gems. When using different elemental and strike/slash/thrust against certain enemies. Like, adding arcane to a hatchet for killing corrupted etc. if the weaknesses and resistances works as intended that is.

[@GrimmkillMMO]

Good shit

[@zaddysquirt3080]

So I tested the T5 vs T2 int gem and T5 is doing drastically more damage.

[@conorjamieson7963]

Praying for that headshave.

[@Pogslammers]

I think Rogue perk might have been fixed and only works while hitting enemies from behind

[@xOriginalSynx]

So the thing about knock downs is stagger will interrupt the knockdown.

[@MorrolanTV]

This is interesting, I'll definitely take a look