Testing Resin 3D Printing Cleaning Alternatives

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Uncle Jessy

Uncle Jessy

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Testing out alternative cleaning solutions beyond isopropyl IPA
Link to Test Files ➜
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Simple Green ➜
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Mr Clean ➜
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Mean Green ➜
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Ultra Sonic Cleaners ➜
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Lunch Trays ➜
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Elegoo Mars ➜
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Elegoo Grey Resin ➜
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Elegoo Mars Facebook Group ➜ / elegoomars
Some Additional Items you will want to consider for Resin 3D Printing ➜
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Plastic Spatula - amzn.to/2Ijrhuy
Metal Spatula - amzn.to/2XgiHoS
Isopropyl (IPA) - amzn.to/2KoTsdY
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Funnel - amzn.to/2IjrrCa
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@kellyj5610
@kellyj5610 4 жыл бұрын
FYI on the Simple Green. We use that on submarines when cleaning because it has no atmosphere contaminants or other contaminants that can cause the crew any health issues in enclosed spaces (like a submarine under water) for months on end. We also use ISP for some specific equipment cleaning...but we only use metal containers because the alcohol can break down the plastic from a container and suspend it in the solution and you end up coating the material your trying to clean with a microscopic film of plastic...which can build up over time and end up ruining some very expensive items.
@Balassvar
@Balassvar 4 жыл бұрын
Simple Green and a Mop. Every Submariners worst friend.
@MrNybios
@MrNybios 4 жыл бұрын
The only polymers that can by partly dissolved by alcohols are ABS, CAB and Acrylic. PE-HD, in which 99.9999% of alcohol is stored doesn't dissolve any polymer for many years.
@luckkibehemoth6626
@luckkibehemoth6626 4 жыл бұрын
@@Balassvar what mop did you get? All I got was a few chem wipes and a fox tail.
@CaedenV
@CaedenV 4 жыл бұрын
Also with simple green is that it is crazy potent. You can dilute that stuff a lot before it stops being effective. And you can buy larger containers than that for about the same price.
@flashfire157
@flashfire157 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome comment! Made up my mind for me
@grand_master_glass
@grand_master_glass 4 жыл бұрын
This video has never been more relative with the current iso shortage. Thank you!
@granthamlin8126
@granthamlin8126 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! That's why I'm here.
@broderp
@broderp 4 жыл бұрын
Yup. Just ordered my printer, can't find ISO anywhere. I did find Simple Green - I got 344 oz (2 gal, 88 oz.) for $19.06 and free shipping. That should last a while. (I hope)
@simonduddy2644
@simonduddy2644 4 жыл бұрын
@@broderp if your prints are small you can fill a smaller beaker with your cleaner, then put water in your bath and stand the beaker in the water - the water is needed to help the vibrations transfer to the beaker :)
@labpartners3490
@labpartners3490 4 жыл бұрын
Does you know if it has to be that specific mr clean product? I can only find multipurpose mr clean but the antibacterial he is using is nowhere to be found.
@prophet89
@prophet89 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered my first printer and thought "oh crap, i won't be able to find alcohol." One google later here i am.
@BLBlackDragon
@BLBlackDragon 5 жыл бұрын
Don't sell yourself short. You put together a solid comparison test, eliminating as many variables as you could. Keep up the good work.
@ammomike5070
@ammomike5070 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for testing! If you want to reuse your cleaners put them into your curing station. After a few minutes all the liquid resin in the cleaner will solidify and sinks to the bottom of the bottle. Tested it with IPA. Have an nice day!
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 5 жыл бұрын
Oh dang. I will have to give that a go.
@djrobwilliam1673
@djrobwilliam1673 5 жыл бұрын
Coffee filters are commonly 20 microns as well and they will remove a lot of the "powdered" material from the Ipa. Grab a few two liter bottles or 3D print some funnels and you can rather quickly assemble a 3 stage IPA filter/recycling system. @@UncleJessy
@robertallenpayne
@robertallenpayne 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! I should read more before I leave a comment. I just asked about that. That's how we do it at work too, but have fancy filters there which are hard to duplicate at home.
@S6E9X6Y9
@S6E9X6Y9 4 жыл бұрын
Robert Allen Payne did you guys buy them or make them yourself at work? At my job we have SLA and DLP printers and I made a really ghetto system that seems to work to an extent. I basically wait for the alcohol to settle and the resin to sit at the bottom. Then I filter the alcohol with some strainers with a paper mesh to cover the surface. I do this on top of a brida filter but we print so much that we clogged it right away
@ericgonzalez3324
@ericgonzalez3324 3 жыл бұрын
Yep I do this too, works well
@MichaelPavlovich
@MichaelPavlovich 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for these videos - I'm just about to plug in my first 3D printer, have gotten lots of tips from veteran 3D print folk, and I'm already a little overwhelmed - it's SO helpful to see the process in action along with the possible choices and results! You've saved me a ton of time and I haven't even started yet - MUCH appreciated!!!
@TimTinhTran
@TimTinhTran Жыл бұрын
Hey its Michael Pavlovich! The zbrush mentor to us all lol. Funny place to tell ya, but as a professional 3D artist, I still go to your videos regularly for help. Thanks for all the help man! To all the folks reading this, if you wanna learn zbrush, this the man right here!
@MorganScott82
@MorganScott82 5 жыл бұрын
RZ masks do not filter vapors, just particulates and are providing you very limited protection from any resin or cleaning agent fumes. Something like a 3M respirator rated for organic vapors would be recommended.
@godholio
@godholio 4 жыл бұрын
They're also pretty cheap!
@ArcheanCanadian1983
@ArcheanCanadian1983 4 жыл бұрын
as a chemical compounder, I second the organic vapor filter option. 👍
@robertallenpayne
@robertallenpayne 4 жыл бұрын
When I bought my first resin printer, in the box I found a surgical mask. And the instructions said to make sure to wear the mask when working with the resin. Straight up! A surgical mask. When I go to the doctor they have a sign as you come into the waiting room. It says, “If you have a cold, the flu, or some other issue that causes you to cough or sneeze, then please take and wear a mask for the health of other patients and our staff.” They provide that same surgical mask that was shipped with my printer. I asked the doctor about it. And she told me that those types of masks ONLY stop germs from the people WEARING the mask. Anything floating in the air already will simply take the path of least resistance AROUND the mask and into your nose, mouth and lungs. So all these folks you see wearing these masks at airports are not protecting themselves. And if they aren’t able to protect themselves from germs, that mask SURE won’t protect them from VOCs and HAPs. If you are concerned about the fumes, then read the SDS and take appropriate action. The CDC states, “Respirators should only be used when engineering control systems are not feasible. Engineering control systems, such as adequate ventilation or scrubbing of contaminants, are the preferred control methods for reducing worker exposures.” So honestly, if you are worried about your health, don’t use resin printers unless you are willing to put in forced air ventilation. It’s what I did. It was easy. And pretty cheap. And now I’m fume free and don’t need to worry about respirators.
@velocelt
@velocelt 4 жыл бұрын
Partially correct. RZ Mask makes organic vapor filters for the their masks. You can either have masks that only filter particulates, or particulates and organic vapors/paints/solvents, etc. I own both types of mask RZ as well as dual cartridge respirators (3M style), and I find the RZ mask with the vapor filter to be the easiest to use, but if I'm going to do something prolonged and nasty I'll get out the dual cartridge respirator as I feel it is slightly more secure and filters better overall.
@operator8014
@operator8014 Жыл бұрын
It's okay, he doesn't use it anyways. He just says he does so people can't cry about his safety problems.
@SoGchaosDJ
@SoGchaosDJ 5 жыл бұрын
I feel all these tests are best done with transparent resin as that is where most people want an alternative for IPA to prevent clouding.
@MakerViking
@MakerViking 5 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, should do a followup video with transparent resin. Still loved the video though.
@namehere5675
@namehere5675 5 жыл бұрын
I would also like to see a test done with transparent resin.
@truantray
@truantray 5 жыл бұрын
Clouding is avoided by drying the print completely.
@Jason-yn6oy
@Jason-yn6oy 4 жыл бұрын
@@truantray IPA is known to almost immediately cloud clear resins with a bit of a frosted appearance. This is right after they're in the IPA, even before they're cured, so it is unrelated to being completely dried. This is why I use ResinAway but I'm here to see if there were cheaper options that worked just as well as ResinAway.
@AquaticSCP
@AquaticSCP 4 жыл бұрын
SoGchaos then you won’t be able (harder) to see the liquid resin still on the prints
@bipolarchemist
@bipolarchemist 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. You don't know how happy I was to see you address the respiratory issues with resins as I think that is a far bigger issue than the resin itself. I am a polymer chemist so I may be a bit jaded, but methacrylates are noxious and it takes far less of a substance to affect you through smell(in most cases) than it does through skin contact. But on that note, make sure you are using a F1 or F3 filter as those are designed to handle chemical and organic vapors as well as dust and fine particulates. I would also wipe down any and everything you work with while wearing gloves with one of the alternative cleaning solutions you tested(or IPA) to avoid any chance for potential cross contamination. Excellent video and I will probably move to any of those non-IPA cleaners, especially if you are going to use an ultrasonic bath as they are mostly water with 'soap' so there should be no chance of any vapors igniting anything anywhere.
@ShadowDrakken
@ShadowDrakken 5 жыл бұрын
Hate to say it, but I wish you'd have done the tests on translucent resin. That way you could compare the fogging and discoloration effects of the cleaners :\
@Botwire
@Botwire 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks for taking the time to do the test and sharing the results! I like your honest approach used in all your reviews and the information you share is valuable, saves time and money, all while entertaining. Sorry you had a spillage and it was the winning product! Great video I'll be looking out for your next episode!
@jsandra860
@jsandra860 4 жыл бұрын
Pssht ultrasonic cleaner....... I just put them in a pickle container and then on top of the washing machine🤪
@AquaticSCP
@AquaticSCP 4 жыл бұрын
AK 907 just put them IN the dish washer
@MrRoderickweise
@MrRoderickweise 3 жыл бұрын
OMG This comment is GOLD!
@Trueflights
@Trueflights 3 жыл бұрын
@@AquaticSCP dishwasher water is far too hot and will likely melt and warp your prints though. Not to mention that you would need to be using a water washable resin and also risk contaminating anything else you put in the machine with it.
@0spike0100
@0spike0100 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting initial findings, I would be interested in seeing how they holdup over time as well. As well as with transparent resin.
@3DPrintFarm
@3DPrintFarm 5 жыл бұрын
Great job! Also, the Mean Green can be picked up at your local Dollar Tree for you guessed it! A BUCK! Also.. nice to see you guys using my pickle container idea! ;)
@Whatshisdude
@Whatshisdude 5 жыл бұрын
I will check this today as I am going to a dollar tree anyway. And where would I find you pickle container idea details?
@susinator
@susinator Жыл бұрын
I used to work for a cleaning company, we had a contract with a chain of clinics, and they loved it when we used that Mr Clean cleaner for their floors. It's been a long time since I've worked for them, and I still buy and use that cleaner for my floors. The smell is heavenly.
@DisgruntledPigumon
@DisgruntledPigumon 5 жыл бұрын
Just a heads up. Isopropanol is a combination of the words Isopropyl and alcohol. There's no such thing as Isopropanol alcohol. 😃
@truantray
@truantray 5 жыл бұрын
There is literally no chemistry in this video.
@alexbowlen6345
@alexbowlen6345 5 жыл бұрын
@@truantray true, but he says 'isopropanol alcohol' while the bottle is sitting there and clearly says 'Isopropyl alcohol' and it's driving me up the wall.
@NoTimeForThatNow
@NoTimeForThatNow 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed a lot of YT hosts say it that way. Always wonder why when it clearly says different on the bottle. Maybe their science teachers in high school learned to say it that way in a different time?
@cbbgenki4315
@cbbgenki4315 5 жыл бұрын
Geez a bunch of nerds... but you are correct....
@Bitplanebrother
@Bitplanebrother 5 жыл бұрын
just say 2-propanol ;)
@freddyrosenberg9288
@freddyrosenberg9288 5 жыл бұрын
I use ultrasonic cleaners a lot and I have found clothes' detergent in liquid form is superb for cleaning in those machines ( a liitle detergent goes a log way do not use it 100% strength) . Better than orange chizel, simple green and other de-greasers. Also, you do not have to fill the whole tub with the cleaner. Fill the ultrasonic cleaner with water and put the product in a plastic tub filled to the same depth as the water in the cleaner. There is no difference.
@mattiasranbro
@mattiasranbro 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@JohnDoe-cj4gn
@JohnDoe-cj4gn 3 жыл бұрын
What ratio of laundry detergent to water do you use ?
@paintedjay
@paintedjay 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! My Mars just got here today, and I'm printing already! Definitely going to pick up some Mean Green and an Ultrasonic Cleaner!
@Vladlabs
@Vladlabs 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the work you have done and for the time and effort to do this for the community, so we don't have to! Great job!
@coreymacourek1577
@coreymacourek1577 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your channel and time posting your test results. I have used Monocure's ResinAway with success, but these results present FAR less expensive and easily accessible options. Happy printing, Uncle Jessy!
@diadexxus
@diadexxus 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this! I am a noobie with resin 3d printing, and its great to know we dont have to HUNT for alcohol! We can use one of these others that are SO much easier to find!
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! I still use this in my large ultrasonic cleaner
@EricHonaker
@EricHonaker 5 жыл бұрын
Simple Green is usually concentrated - if you diluted it to the suggested ratio it might be more cost-effective.
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 4 жыл бұрын
Some concentrated surfactant cleaners work better when diluted. They're designed to enhance water's solvent capabilities.
@WaheedAkhtarWahid
@WaheedAkhtarWahid 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips @uncle jessy. I have started using Simple Green for Water washable Resin in a 75% to 25% ratio (75% water, 25% Simple Green) in Anycubic 2in1 Wash and Cure and prints turn out amazingly clean. To clean my print plate and FEB, I am now using same 75% to 25% mixture in a spray bottle… Spray it and wipeout with paper towel, super simple and no mess.
@candogancan5574
@candogancan5574 5 жыл бұрын
As always perfect job. My ultrasonic cleaner arrived today and I was looking for cleaner liquid alternatives, your video arrived at just right time.
@bluegloves2
@bluegloves2 4 жыл бұрын
How was it?
@joewaddell9153
@joewaddell9153 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! As a science teacher, I love this. May even show it in class! Not to mention, I’m moving to one for the cleaners over ipa. Thanks!
@kevinm3751
@kevinm3751 5 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic, I too have used IPA and hate the smell and the mess and seeing this not only can I get away from that I can also save a ton of cash! So thanks for doing this experiment, you just saved me a lot of money!!!
@xanxanariac9014
@xanxanariac9014 Жыл бұрын
I know this is an older video but I have used Mean Green for the last 3+ years.. It was $5 for a gallon at walmart here but is now $6.12/gal.. I usually buy online and pick it up. It's not dangerous to your health and smells much better than alcohol. btw, long time follower, Jessy!
@icb6418
@icb6418 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I’m just getting into resin printing and I’ve seen all these vids about how you’re gonna have to spend 200 on gallons of IPA. I’ll be sure to get some mean green and try it out
@SuperMakeSomething
@SuperMakeSomething 5 жыл бұрын
This is super interesting! Thanks for posting this test! User safety/toxicity of the cleaners in large quantities is probably the biggest trade-off I see with regards to using these as an IPA alternative, but the fact that the degreaser resulted in the cleanest prints is very interesting! I wonder how ethanol would work... maybe you could try scotch, vodka, and rum next! :P
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 5 жыл бұрын
Whiskey cleaner coming up!
@boviac
@boviac 2 жыл бұрын
Effective and Cheaper alternatives was the goal I was looking for here.
@shanestrains4724
@shanestrains4724 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this comparison. I'm just getting into 3D printing and picked up the Mars 2 p. I picked up a jug of the simple green because I'm trying to avoid harsh smells in my house. Plus I'll be using the plant based resin from Anycubic, again to keep the odours down. I'm anxious to see how things turn out once I cut my teeth on a few test prints. Still waiting on my Ultra Sonic Cleaner and Curing Booth before I get started. 👍
@Likeableartist
@Likeableartist 3 жыл бұрын
If this ever gets revised or revisited, Remember to mention that cleaners will Eat away at the spinner in the Wash and cure stations! was wondering why there was black bits floating around and i discovered that it completely dissolved the Rubber and the Blue protective coating on the spinner in the bottom of the container!
@darkeraeris
@darkeraeris Жыл бұрын
Thank you for pointing this out!
@CookieManCookies
@CookieManCookies 10 ай бұрын
Not a issue if you use a ultrasonic cleaner, as there is no spinner.
@MrCinpro
@MrCinpro 5 жыл бұрын
Just an FYI out there for everyone. I used to use Simple Green to clean the rinse tanks of photo printers and developed a sensitivity to it. If anyone starts getting a scratchy throat, runny nose or eyes watering. Get to fresh air asap. If it comes back when you go back in the room find a new cleaner. I got so I can't even give the stuff one spray trigger w/o having a coughing fit. Hope it doesn't happen to anyone, cause it sucks. It was my favorite cleaner for many years. Happy printing ppl!😁
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 5 жыл бұрын
That’s a great callout! Something for sure I will be closely monitoring as I continue to work with these cleaners
@TheRealAfroRick
@TheRealAfroRick 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the experiment. Now I can switch to something more cost-effective. May also explain why some of my prints still seemed to not be clean after I cleaned them.
@Chromeskull90
@Chromeskull90 4 жыл бұрын
I love how this guy is so in love with Mr. Clean hahaha
@MrTonydetiger76
@MrTonydetiger76 4 жыл бұрын
For those here for the IPA shortage, look into Purple Power as well. I use it. Doesn't have the weird minty/licorice smell that Simple Green does. I also use it to clean the build plate and the resin tank after prints. Scrape out the resin, spray the plate and reservoir and wipe. I also use a foaming ammonia free glass cleaner to clean off the build plate and FEP. I'm trying to get away from IPA because of the harsh smell and scarcity.
@MigMonkey
@MigMonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Simple Green has its own very distinct smell. Very cool to see alternatives to IPA
@OtioseFanatic
@OtioseFanatic 2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious if the effectiveness of the clean would change if you had used a more contemporary cleaning machine like the Creality wash and cure station or any of the equivalents that instead of being ultrasonic actually just have a magnetically driven fan to stir the cleaning solution
@MarkRhodesMaker
@MarkRhodesMaker 5 жыл бұрын
This blows my mind. IPA is really expensive here, and I never considered alternatives! Thanks man
@ArionRaine
@ArionRaine 4 жыл бұрын
Mean Green is indeed the best. I have been using it for years and recommending it for as long. Simple reason is its the only cleaner I could find that contains an ethoxylated or propoxylated alcohol which are the ingredients common to stuff like Resin Away from Monocure, and Yellow Magic 7 (yep, resin away is essentially mean green with a crazy jacked up price) that can be bought at a general store. You can confirm this by obtaining the MSDS from Monocure and Yellow Magic if you would like. It can be bought in gallons for about $8 at hardware stores depending where you live. It will also last forever minus evaporation due to the fact you can cure the resin out of it. However it WILL discolor your print if left in too long. As far as alcohols go, you should be using denatured alcohol (ethanol, which is methylated to prevent drinking), also known as methylated spirits across the pond. I really dont know why isopropanol became a thing for rinsing prints. Ethanol, which is in fact the alcohol recommended by most resin manufacturers, works far better, does not cloud prints nearly as bad, and is MUCH cheaper at around $11/gal. I am going to assume when people read alcohol they assumed it meant isopropanol, and it just became the norm, which was in fact mis-information. Some do just state alcohol without specifying ethanol, but most do state ethanol. Isopropanol does work, but is not as effective, and clouds the prints due to having a water content that is absorbed into the surface on top of the amount of etching that takes place. Also, do not use alcohol in an ultrasonic cleaner. Flammable vapors can be produced potentially causing a really bad day.
@travismcgruder5169
@travismcgruder5169 4 жыл бұрын
So after washing in mean green, I can just put it under the same UV/sunlight to cure the left behind resin?
@ArionRaine
@ArionRaine 4 жыл бұрын
@@travismcgruder5169 Rinse with water after the mean green just to get rid of the mean green.
@papaf0xtr0t
@papaf0xtr0t 4 жыл бұрын
Looks like Oil Eater brand cleaner may have similar ingredients as well? Sodium metasilicate - pentahydrate 6834-92-0 < 5% 2 Butoxyethanol 111-76-2 < 5 % Linear Alcohol Ethoxylate 68439-46-3 < 5 %
@terpdx
@terpdx 4 жыл бұрын
Look at those shelves stocked with cleaning products. Ahhh, those were the days...
@timberry4709
@timberry4709 4 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this video, I was wondering if there were alternatives to IPA. I am just starting with 3D resin printing (I already have an Ender-3) and am collecting supplies while waiting for my Anycubic Photon to arrive. Also, if you spill a cleaning product are you really making a mess?
@LinkWulluf
@LinkWulluf 4 жыл бұрын
We used to use mean green to clean the scummy green slimy algae out of our pool whenever we would let it sit for a season. I'm excited to try it for this
@marklafferty5319
@marklafferty5319 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting-been using IPA, will have to check out alternatives. THANKS!
@FusionSource
@FusionSource 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you for the info, I have been struggling to get IPA in South Africa, so I will check this out. Great video, excited by your channel, just subbed.
@CMCustom112
@CMCustom112 5 жыл бұрын
I was reading that post while in Walmart the other day. Walked right over to the cleaning supplies Isle and picked up a bottle of mean green. My Mars should be at my doorstep this afternoon.
@yougosquishnow
@yougosquishnow 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you did this. I have a huge bottle of simple green i use to clean mold release
@phunkymunky7210
@phunkymunky7210 5 жыл бұрын
After how many prints would u recommend changing the solution?
@CeresOutpost
@CeresOutpost 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going for the most environmental combo - Simple Green with Anycubic's soy-based resin. I live in the mountains of Central Oregon and during the winter, my options for ventilating my heated garage are minimal. I will post a video after I have done some testing with this combo.
@jeffgreenfield7025
@jeffgreenfield7025 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad i found this video. The IPA in my shop was really bugging me, and i was about to buy the yellow magic 7, but it's ~$40 a gallon. We use Mr. Clean in the jewelry ultrasonic cleaner with great results, and much lower cost than dedicated cleaners.
@MajorMoron
@MajorMoron 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention infinitely less flammable. I have been stressing about how flammable ethanol and IPA is, I think I might switch over to using one of these alternatives for most prints, and then maybe keep a bottle of IPA on the side just in case.
@alexanderlopez4255
@alexanderlopez4255 3 жыл бұрын
Im about to get started with 3D printing and im glad i watched this. I think i'm gonna get mean green instead of IPA
@kd757t
@kd757t 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the great info
@zombeikiller2509
@zombeikiller2509 4 жыл бұрын
This will help me, as I am just starting out with a resin printer and all the iso is gone. lol
@rich_3d
@rich_3d 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there! Great video and Channel! You've been a massive help to me getting into resin 3D printing! I'm in the UK and, whereas I don't expect you to know specific products, I was wondering if you could advise as to what properties I'm looking for in these kinds of cleaners so i can find the right one for UK print cleaning? Thanks again! Keep up the great work!
@kyleniedermeier6651
@kyleniedermeier6651 5 жыл бұрын
Great video, as usual!
@russellauger5067
@russellauger5067 4 жыл бұрын
Great demo. You can fill the pickle jar with cleaner and then put in the tank with water below the cleaner line. All of the cleaners have a alcohol component.
@jaythree9555
@jaythree9555 5 жыл бұрын
Is it safe or recommended to leave the cleaning solution in the ultrasonic between prints and reuse and then replace when needed?
@christophermichaels8148
@christophermichaels8148 4 жыл бұрын
I have tried these and I have found that warm water and Dawn Platinum works great.
@vegasmagicman
@vegasmagicman 3 жыл бұрын
Do you still use this solution? Hell I have Dawn Platinum so I'll give it a try.
@exodous02
@exodous02 4 жыл бұрын
It need to be pointed out these DO NOT work without a ultrasonic cleaner. I had the simple pickle dunking stations that worked fine for IPA but I got the one you suggested, mean green, and it did not work in my dunking station. Not only did it not get my print clean but it would foam really bad. I got an ultra sonic cleaner and now it works great! I can't remember if you said this or not in the video. I watched it but might have missed it, just throwing it out there. . .
@christopherc3698
@christopherc3698 4 жыл бұрын
I love simple green because it cleans so well. I paint, and it strips them off the prints if you let it sit in the solution. And the smell you are looking for I think is mild licorice
@dougwhiddon8227
@dougwhiddon8227 4 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. I've had a Photon for over a year, and just got a Phenom and I HATE using alcohol for cleanup.
@Neptune730
@Neptune730 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is an old video but that makes my question perfect. So after almost 2 years is Mean Green still your go to cleaner? Or are you using something else by now. I am waiting on delivery of my first resin printer. The Anycubic Photon Mono. Thanks
@niniamimo
@niniamimo 2 жыл бұрын
X2
@robertwesterfield3454
@robertwesterfield3454 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this review we are just starting the resin printing from using the old style and we are very happy to not use that much alcohol
@CrazyWillTechShow
@CrazyWillTechShow 4 жыл бұрын
Hey man this really help me found a bottle of simple green at sam’s Club concentrated for like $10 makes 48 32oz bottles. Lot cheaper than the $30 I spent for 12 16oz bottles. Thanks!
@terrywellman1520
@terrywellman1520 4 жыл бұрын
You can get a gallon of Mean Green concentrate at Walmart for $4.97. That's probably your biggest bang for the buck. I'm grabbing a couple of gallons today as I'm doing more LCD resin printing than ever before and ISO is not cheap. Great vid with a lot of excellent information!
@Ison3Ison3
@Ison3Ison3 4 жыл бұрын
Thank You! Very helpful!
@jordongingrich8913
@jordongingrich8913 5 жыл бұрын
Wow.. Sweet testing! Mr clean looks like mountain dew and for that alone it's what I want to try haha
@WayneMcCormick
@WayneMcCormick 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you should have use plain water in the ultrasonic cleaner as sort of a baseline. Just to remove the Ultrasonic as a factor?
@OtioseFanatic
@OtioseFanatic 2 жыл бұрын
Probably not with the resin he used. He didn’t use a water washable resin so parts would be damaged. If you are gonna go out of your way to get water washable resin, then just clean with water. No chems involved.
@williamleitz3551
@williamleitz3551 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! and do you normally leave your cleaning solution in the ultrasonic cleaner for later?
@anthonysamboer7636
@anthonysamboer7636 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome info Uncle Jess!
@avejst
@avejst 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting test Thanks for sharing👍😀
@InterstellarModeler
@InterstellarModeler 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for this review, interesting results. You mentioned that you typically don't put the cleaner back in the bottle. How do you usually dispose of it? Thanks
@pacificcoastminiatures
@pacificcoastminiatures Жыл бұрын
I’m even using Simple Green with my water washable resin. I’ve diluted it about half with water. Seems to clean better than just plain water. After the SG bath I put the prints in plain water as a final rinse.
@Road_Rash
@Road_Rash 4 жыл бұрын
I'm switching to Mean Green! One of my favorites anyways!
@MONTY-YTNOM
@MONTY-YTNOM 5 жыл бұрын
SAFETY TIP: Never smell the bottle. Waft the scent to your nose with your hand.
@UncleJessy
@UncleJessy 5 жыл бұрын
Haha very very true! Thought about that as I was editing 👍
@Botwire
@Botwire 5 жыл бұрын
If the chemical bottle is not clearly marked then you use the hand wave smell method. None of the chemical cleaners used in this video are dangerous and in fact, simple green is non toxic.
@pandapropsncostumes
@pandapropsncostumes 5 жыл бұрын
Great videos as always Jessy. If I can please make a request: please please please demonstrate the use of a proper respirator that filters fumes. What you’re using doesn’t have cartridge filters which is essential for safety. As someone who was hospitalized for breathing in bad stuff, I learned my lesson the hard way. Use a Niosh approved respirator with 6001 cartridge filters. These are regulated and proven to filter out harmful chemicals. As a fellow maker, I’m seeing lots of tutorial videos on KZbin where safety isn’t always promoted. Lots of kids are watching, let’s do our part to keep them safe! Thanks for all your hard work and videos, they are amazing! Keep on making!!
@DarioDarrow
@DarioDarrow 5 жыл бұрын
Panda Props & Costumes This is great advice 👍 The dust particle mask could even make fume inhalation worse as you end up breathing harder through the mask. Organic vapour filters will prevent the hallucinations 🤪
@MONTY-YTNOM
@MONTY-YTNOM 5 жыл бұрын
@@Botwire Not the point. Ppl watching might assume that's how you test ALL bottles. Always show good drill in a demo
@TexasBubblehead
@TexasBubblehead 4 жыл бұрын
We use Simple Green on submarines but never stick your nose over a chemical, wave your hand over the opening towards yourself.
@jamesedwards8175
@jamesedwards8175 3 жыл бұрын
I have found that biofuel actually works great for cleaning. It's a mix of iso and a couple other alcohols, available really cheap ($20 or so for a gallon) and it works really great on my Anycubic prints.
@AlbertoMartinez765
@AlbertoMartinez765 4 жыл бұрын
WOW! Nice video , will be switching to a Reg Cleaner vs Alcohol now.
@TheStarStreak
@TheStarStreak 3 жыл бұрын
This is nice to see, IPA in Sweden is ~25 USD per liter and has been that way for years. Even if you purchase it by the can it costs over 75$ for 5 liters.
@bsmith4996
@bsmith4996 5 жыл бұрын
For Ultrasonic cleaners it is very important that that are filled for them to work correctly. Even 1/2 inch makes a difference on the waves power. Besides that it will burn out the transducers fast if not full. I’m sure the manual will agree
@chucklamb3496
@chucklamb3496 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely going to try this as soon as my printer comes.
@Penetralex
@Penetralex 3 жыл бұрын
I like a lot the test. Thank you
@kevinbroadley5422
@kevinbroadley5422 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, very informative only thing is all these products are very expensive in the uk or to get them shipped, are there any cheaper alternative products that are readily available in the uk?
@MrDownRater
@MrDownRater 5 жыл бұрын
So now Rust-oleum not just selling the best filler/primer for fdm prints, but the best resin cleaner too. They can begin to think about a 3Dprinting sub-brand! :D
@ciarfah
@ciarfah 5 жыл бұрын
Chopi Seeing a rustoleum branded 3d printer, even a rebadged ODM, would be fantastic haha
@chackokhan
@chackokhan 5 жыл бұрын
Just like SoGchaos said, I wouldn’t mind seeing a follow up test with a white & transparent resin too.
@pryns
@pryns 4 жыл бұрын
Hey @Uncle Jessy, #1 I love you videos (the quality is great: sound & visual), #2 I watched this video a while ago but had to revisit it because I'm having issues curing my prints. They almost always get damaged during curing because of the surface still having leftover residue (or leaking from a hollow print). It's driving me crazy! Do you have any suggestions for making sure this doesn't happen????
@WayneMcCormick
@WayneMcCormick 5 жыл бұрын
Would you use Mean Green to clean and maintain your printer and vat as well?
@robinson-foundry
@robinson-foundry 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this would be a good way to clean the vat after a failed print.
@vinnnocc
@vinnnocc 4 жыл бұрын
tacky feel after simple green? mine seem to be tacky for days even under a UV light
@unlikelyevents1842
@unlikelyevents1842 4 жыл бұрын
You've a money saver. With this virus you can't find alcohol anywhere. Thank you for this. Saved me from wasting over 100$ to people taking advantage of the lack of product to take as much money as they can from people.
@TheIcemanModdeler
@TheIcemanModdeler 4 жыл бұрын
For Europe people recommended Fairy Power Clean, bought a bottle to test it out. Mr. Clean is also called Mr. Proper in some parts of Europe.
@thecrazy8888
@thecrazy8888 3 жыл бұрын
50% Isopropyl Alcohol also works IF used it in an ultrasonic cleaner for a few more minutes. I put my prints and the cleaning solutions in a sealed plastic container with a locking lid and put that in my ultrasonic cleaner with water filling the rest of the vat. This way It never gets dirty, I only change the water once in a while and can keep multiple cleaning solutions in different containers. Like water to rinse the cleaning solution. Also, remember different resins don't all clean the same.
@ninjabuddy1
@ninjabuddy1 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I'm getting a resin 3d printer wednesday (I managed to get nitrile gloves!) and will try using IPA as a control case before I try these on my own. Definitely a lot less expensive and more available than IPA though.
@karllautman
@karllautman 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Jessy, but product lifetime is another variable to consider. I realize it would make for a much more complicated test, but how many cleaning cycles can you get out of each product and, more importantly, what do you do with the dirty cleaner when it's used up? My hunch is all of them except IPA have to be taken to the recycling center (maybe they can be decanted a few times first, but that takes a lot of time and more cleaner to use while the dirty stuff sits). IPA, on the other hand, can easily be distilled (with a $125 electric water distiller from Amazon) and reused indefinitely (until you run out of it through evaporation), simplifying the cleaning cycle and, possibly, reducing cost.
@gr3yh47
@gr3yh47 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the informative video. do you have a link to the breathing mask you were using?
@Merc_33
@Merc_33 2 жыл бұрын
This was very useful for a beginner.
@azzadenza
@azzadenza 5 жыл бұрын
Great review @UncleJessy. My question would be to go one further and see how the prints go with painting them? Does the cleaning solution leave a residue on the prints that we cannot see? How does paint adhere to the finished product?
@shadowofkitsune
@shadowofkitsune 4 жыл бұрын
Usually it shouldn't leave a residue. Not if you rinse them in water after, the cleaning products are AFAIK water soluble. You should clean bought miniatures with soap too and those are good to paint on.
@charlesstitman4089
@charlesstitman4089 3 жыл бұрын
Different resins respond to Simple/Mean green differently. Siraya Tech seems to work best; which is what Uncle Jessy uses most of the time. Others don't always works so well.
@nickcampana5637
@nickcampana5637 Жыл бұрын
Great video and as always full of great content. Question, do you think with an agitator in a 5 gallon bucket and using Mean Green I would get similar results? I've been using my Jupiter quite a bit and the prints are a good size. Didn't want to add an ultrasonic cleaner at this point, maybe later on down the road. Thank you
@donlopez2241
@donlopez2241 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice comparison, good info and ratings. Another thing to test may be types of machines:. I saw a video where the guy used an aquarium pump to shoot bubbles at his prints. It would be a super cheap alternative, but I'm curious how it compares to an ultrasonic, or the magnetic stirrer cleaners...
@Vladlabs
@Vladlabs 3 жыл бұрын
Would also love to see this test with translucent resins, when any of my translucent resin parts get into a contact with water, they immediately get foggy, which totally destroys the look of it. Which is why I am still using IPA, but price and shortage makes me search for an alternative now.
@guszkoh23
@guszkoh23 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thank you
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