Testing the "Light" Medium Bores, 348 Win, 358 Win and 350 Rem Mag HD 1080p

ok..maybe the 350 Rem Mag is a medium, medium? I definately see the 358 Norma as stepping things up to a "heavy" medium. Thought I'd do a test on bullets to ck performance. Too windy for accuracy so I went with some wet newsprint terminal performance testing. Fun day at the range.

[@aaronwilcox6417]

Nice. Middlebore madness. My favorites. I'm a couple hours away from where they make those Speer bullets. When I was in high-school I used to go down with my dad in the fall and buy the Speer seconds Grand Slam and another bullet called Bitteroot bullet. At the time they were Grand Slams and Hot Cores were dirt cheap. I still have some 7mm and 30cal sitting around. Back then there wasn't such an thing as an ammo or components shortage and there was more supply than demand. Even farther back in the 70's I remember grocery stores selling kegs of 4831 powder and they would also open a keg and sell it by the pound, dispensing it in little brown paper bags. That was awesome.

[@north61]

Things are much different now...especially here in Canada.

[@holgerdanske3960]

Hi Aron, for Europeans like me your comment is like listing to Aborigines speaking about "dream time". Cant hardley belief.

[@jasonsimone3523]

Love all those Speer bullets in the 350 mag. Great performers for sure! Glad I bought up a life supply of them when they were available.

[@blackie1of4]

Love the 35 calibers! I've had good success with Remington factory ammo for the 350 Remington Magnum! I did try the 225 grain nosler partitions and they held a decent group at 100 yards. More recently I'm using the speer 225 grain loads in my 358 Winchester.. but I use the Hornady Custom 200 grain soft points for deer! If I'm being honest.. both the 350 Remington and the 358 Winchester are a little too much for deer! The deer I shot with these ran the furthest.. I'm talking dead on their feet mad dash runs leaving a blood trail that was impressive! I carry the 358 Winchester for black bear/deer hunting! Cause the seasons have overlap in Pennsylvania. Have never hunted outside Pennsylvania.. I probably should put that on a bucket list! Always wanted to head to Maine for black bear! Thank you for showing the love for these wonderful cartridges! A lot of people never heard of them!

[@josephlaqui3564]

My dear sir, after several years of watching your channel I would like to take this opportunity to tell you how much I enjoy and appreciate your content. It seems as if whatever rifle I currently have an interest in or a new acquisition, you somehow post some thing relative to that, just about at the same time. I have all three of the rifles in your test today with having just acquired a 1956, model 71. I think I ran across your channel while doing my research on my Remington 660 in 35 rem mag. My savage is chambered in the ever common 300. Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge and your experimentation with hunting and shooting. It is fun to work with these often, Long forgotten, calibers, and taylor loads to fit a rifle and use.

[@north61]

Glad to be of service!

[@jamiestromberg8671]

Excellent review, documentation and presentation!

[@north61]

Thanks!!!

[@jimmaclellan930]

Your video presentations are excellent! Thank you!

[@sgtmajtrapp3391]

In the .348 I favor the 250 grain bullets same for both .35 calibers used both the .358 and .350 Magnum. Only have the .348 now a personal favorite. The grand slam bullets are good I used a 285 grain Speer Grand Slam .375 on a big Nilgai Bull and it performed extremely well.

[@north61]

I prefer a bit more velocity and wish there was more 220-230 grain bullets available.

[@russellkeeling4387]

I've always liked the bolt shape on the Remington 600 and 660. My first big game rifle was a Remington 600.

[@sakocat]

I have a browning bar in 358win. I reload the 225 grain serria at 2530 and the 200 grain barnes ttsx at 2680fps The 358 is very under rated if you asked me Its not just a bush gun

[@ironDsteele]

I really like the 200gr Barnes tsx spitzer in the .358 win, the 180gr ttsx with the blue polymer tip is great as well. I think a custom rifle necking the .348 win up to .358 would be a great wildcat.

[@deanharris7149]

Awesome.

[@LUVDOGS1954]

Excellent informative analysis, thank you.

[@north61]

Appreciate it!

[@briansearles4473]

Haven't seen any Speer bullets for sale in Canada for about a year. Been a good 6 months since I have seen any 200 grain Sierra's. Where are they all hiding? Nice video, thanks for sharing your results.

[@seanelliott172]

I thought long and hard about rebarreling my 99 to 358 Winchester, but I settled on 338 Federal as it'll push a 200 grain Speer hot cor with another 150 or so FPS.

[@north61]

Good round with great bullet choices though loaded to the same pressure I bet the 358 can out-speed the 338.

[@seanelliott172]

@@north61 Maybe, but 200 grains at 2500FPS out of a 19" tube is plenty for anything in Ontario.

[@jamespugh]

Good results in testing. Dont here munch on the 350 rem mag any more. As 358win you here about it here in their from guy the reload love see it return. .35cal is king

[@johnnyyukon7887]

good video Greg. I'm a fan of the middle weights as well.

[@north61]

Glad I have components from yester-year. Hard to find now.

[@georgiaboy4410]

Good info. Big fan of Speer bullets. And hard cast lol

[@Hunting_Grt_whiteNorth]

Nice to see you finally got some decent weather, & thx for the always usefull bullet testing you do. curious though what penitiation you could work out with the 450 bushmaster possibly with an full copper htp and reloaded up to 2400 if possible? would it be equivalent to the others you just showed?

[@north61]

Although the 450 Bushmaster has poor sectional density, if you select a bullet that doesn't expand to a huge diameter they can penetrate about as well. The 275 TSX for example. Even the 250 FTX is a pretty tough bullet.

[@wasachevyguy]

Barnes 200 gr. TSX would’ve been cool to test in the 358. That’s what I load.

[@chrischiampo7647]

The 1895 in .405 Is a Medium Bore Too 😊😀 Love The 71 .348 Win The Best

[@Aaron-mn8gw]

.405 Win would be considered a big bore or in his way of saying a "light big bore".

[@ronkay1573]

Ever own a 1895 in 405? The 405 and 348 are on my wishlist.

[@north61]

search my channel. I do have one. Took a big mountain caribou in 2015 with it. Got me really interested in the traditional levers.

[@ebikeadventuresinpennsylva4140]

I have the Ruger 77 in .350 magnum. I have yet to take anything with it I mostly archery hunt but would be interested to hear your experiences on deer and bear if you have any. Thanks for posting!

[@benjaminwest2828]

I have the same M77 in 350 Mag. It’s become my favorite deer rifle. It puts deer on the ground real fast with 200 grain Hornady soft points loaded down to 2600fps.

[@ronkay1573]

Thanks and great info. Any recommendations on a 356 win since Speer isn’t making the 220gr anymore?

[@north61]

That's tragic! That Speer bullet was great. I'd probably chuck the 225 Sierra or Nosler Partition in my micro-lathe and take 5 grains off the tip to turn into a flat nose.

[@TimberTramp]

Is 348 brass able to be had? Or is it a proposal whereby you have to make it out of something else? I love that 71 …. I want one with a shorter barrel just like that! I’m looking around for one but need to know about the brass….thanks!

[@north61]

the brass is occasionally made by Hornady and Winchester...but I can't find it now. I can find Starline on line. It's all pricey. You can make it from 50-110 which is also rare. www.starlinebrass.com/348-winchester

[@cw2a]

Hello Greg!

[@north61]

Happy Canadian Thanks-giving!

[@cw2a]

@@north61 "Indigenous peoples" day tomorrow... (Someone was offended by Columbus Day.)

[@brianrobinson1975]

North 61,, how do you think the 220 speer will do out of a 35 rem driven to 2175?

[@north61]

Should do very well...out to 125-150 yards after which you will run into expansion problems.

[@Jordanhunter99]

What bullet would you recommend for a 308 Winchester for hunting moose under 200 yards?

[@north61]

180 Nosler Partition is hard to beat at 2550-2600fps.

[@Aaron-mn8gw]

Hornady 165gr CX at 2750fps or any bonded or copper bullet. Partitions do work well too like Greg said.

[@Jordanhunter99]

@@north61 Thank you very much, much love from Ontario Canada keep up the good work!

[@robertmakowski7808]

M600/220 Speer/60.0 748/2550....no deep seating needed...less than MOA accurate. 2660 from a 22".

[@north61]

I'll try it.

[@robertmakowski7808]

@@north61 Seat the bullet so the base is at the bottom of the neck...I then crimp with a Lee Factory Crimp die....

[@craigbenz4835]

It makes me wonder about my new untested on game load. I'm using the 225 gr. Sierra from a 24" 350 Rem Mag at 2700 fps. I was trying for more penetration than I was getting from the 200 gr. Hornady SP at 2600. This is for black bear.

[@north61]

The 225 Sierra is a funny bullet. It sometimes works supper well and can support a big mushroom but there is no mechanism locking the core so core separations are common and performance is unpredictable. The 225 Nosler Partition is a lot more predictable. It expands at long range and holds together up close.

[@craigbenz4835]

@@north61 : Initially I wanted to go to the Nosler Partition. This was back in 2018, but even in those mild times they were nowhere to be found. Hence the Sierras.

[@north61]

@@craigbenz4835 That's a problem! I'd use the Sierra for Black Bear.. They tend to lose the core near the end of travel. I would even use it for moose and select shots carefully. I wouldn't use it for Grizz or Bison. I think you will be fine, but get some Partitions when they become available!

[@georgelaliberte1053]

Great vid Hope you fill the freezer 👍

[@north61]

It's ok..they are 3/4 full already.

[@heerkrupp64]

It's a shame the bullets are limited in the 348, from what I hear Woodleigh are making bullets again, they should be back into full production by the end of the year with some luck, so that would mean the 250 grain 348 will be back at some point in time not to far away it appears, I will get a few packets, when I can get my hands on some, would be great if they could do a 220 or 225 grain bullet, but I doubt that will happen, but you never know anything is possible.

[@north61]

not only do they hold together but they are also the most accurate bullet in my 348. Interested to see how the 230 Northforks do if they ever get here?

[@frankgagliardo3434]

Tested 348 bullets yesterday. The ftx was the only one to fail. Hawk 250, barnes 250, hornady 200fp, and 200 swift. Swift did the best

[@north61]

What was your media? I get the Barnes to shed it's core with pretty good regularity. The Swift is the least accurate in my rifle but I have some 230 NorthForks on the way.

[@frankgagliardo3434]

@@north61 6 inches of wet flannel then a 8 inch plastic bucket filled with a paper slurry mix then 6 more inches of wet flannel. Then blue jeans to catch the bullet. Success is passing thru the second flannel and staying together. The ftx shed its jacket in the bucket. Lead was deformed. Going to reshoot it but I get a different result then I'll question quality control

[@north61]

@@frankgagliardo3434 The 200 FTX has a long shank which helps it but I do know the interlock feature can be defeated if it gets stressed enough..that little interlock ring helps but it's pretty tiny. The old 220 Speer FN HotCore was my favourite bullet. Stopped making them long ago though.

[@frankgagliardo3434]

@@north61 the swift was picture perfect. Your right accuracy is off and they are too expensive to play with. The Hawks impressed me.

[@north61]

@@frankgagliardo3434 I played with Hawks when they first came out and found they gave a lot more pressure than standard bullets. I think the super-soft jacket gives a bit more friction. Keep your loads sensible! They do seem to want to hang together and give wide expansion. Thanks for keeping me in the loop.