Texas & Oklahoma Joining SEC? | Rapid Reaction (Late Kick Cut)

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[@MrATM-dw2ng]

I agree with u I'm not a fan of this at all Texas is a very toxic program an would ruin the s.e.c. to benefit themselves

[@timglover5358]

Have you heard that Bama auburn will probably be moved to the east???? I really hope not

[@sethstine4698]

@@MrATM-dw2ng I don't like Texas either. But the SEC is too big and too successful to ruin. It might ruin college football as we know it; but not the SEC

[@sethstine4698]

@@timglover5358 yes. I didn't like it at first (being a UGA fan). But then I thought about it. Alabama and Auburn to the SEC East.. Texas and Oklahoma being added to the SEC West makes sense.(and moving Missouri to the West). That way the SEC East will have 4 elite programs (Georgia, Florida, Alabama, and Auburn). And the SEC West will have 4 elite programs (Texas, Texas A&M, Oklahoma, and LSU). Auburn being the weakest of the "Elite" in the East and Texas being the weakest of the "elite" in the West. Alabama being the strongest team in the East; Oklahoma the strongest in the West. Georgia and Florida being perrineal powerhouses in the East; Texas A&M and LSU being perrineal powerhouses in the West. So while the East would be slightly better than the West, with Georgia and Alabama both being in the East, it still would be pretty damn even

[@MrATM-dw2ng]

@@sethstine4698 👍

[@microwave_mmmm8044]

Josh hit the nail on the head here. I mean I'm not gonna sit here and say the thought of A&M and Texas playing again DIDN'T excite me at first, but this is way bigger than any individual matchups like that. College football is stripping away the best part of the game (the diversity of fanbases and the chance for big upsets) because of the desire to make as much money as possible off of an already profitable sport. If only this wasn't already pretty much a done deal.

[@ou-dinsson9878]

Keep in mind three major developments has/is changing college football. This is a horizon forward decision. NIL, transfer portal.....and 12 team playoff is turning the sport into a semi-pro league. This decision is about money, relevance, survival. SEC is in the best position to head start this new position of semi-pro ball..... so this is a strategic move for the future.

[@terrybrunk9190]

All part of the ruination of College football. Greed/Money destroys good.

[@mousewilson1939]

And the ending of the NCAA

[@machtschnell7452]

@@mousewilson1939 Which is not a bad thing.

[@dom.rockchalkjayhawk.8990]

College football was always a semi pro league.

[@ou-dinsson9878]

@@dom.rockchalkjayhawk.8990 No....not really. Freedom to move while pursuing monetized contracts makes it a Semi-pro league.

[@ndchamps20]

Josh, you are the most level headed and well thought out sports reporter in the business. Thank you!!

[@mikedenman2567]

I feel the way you do, but reality is I'm watching the SEC from 12 to 11 every Saturday now. There are not enough good matchups in other conferences to make me change. I'm sure these other conferences have regional support, but I'm still watching the SEC

[@___m7425]

Well its the best confrence in cfb anyways

[@RedFive03]

SEC will still have 1-2 elite teams, 3-4 really good teams and 7 or 8 pretty shit ones riding the coat tails.

[@mikedenman2567]

@@RedFive03 It's rare when there is not a premium match up in the Sec, the addition of these teams will eliminate those weekends

[@mikedenman2567]

@Maria H you are correct, but I find it to be the best quality of football

[@mikedenman2567]

@Maria H that is true, but the big ten only has 2 or 3 games a year that mean anything

[@gregdarrow4188]

That first A&M vs tu game is going to be wild.

[@DD-mj3yf]

Fax can’t fucking way(Excuse my language) I’m just hyped. With Texas and OU in the SEC we will get 2-3+ sometimes more Top 10 matchups every single weekend no matter what. Saturdays are gon be lit especially with the new and renewed rivalry game between Texas and A&M

[@SeanJacquemotte]

*UT

[@gregdarrow4188]

@@SeanJacquemotte Tennessee is already in the SEC.

[@Chicken-1515]

Yup! Boomer Sooner!!!!

[@jesterwink2951]

@@SeanJacquemotte **tu

[@JulianRodriguez-sn6nr]

Personally I think Texas & OU joining the SEC is a horrendous idea. Not only does it ruin college football but it becomes so damn unbalanced it's basically like what happened in the NBA a few years ago with Golden State vs the rest of the NBA.

[@zacstephens5314]

Wouldn’t this mean that geographically, Alabama and Auburn would become SEC East?

[@mattmoore4307]

I would think so

[@christopherartis2549]

Florida wouldn't like that...lol

[@cic6002]

The Geographical thing doesn’t exist in college football anymore. WVU in the big 12? Maryland and Rutgers in the big 10 etc.

[@mikedenman2567]

I think the SEC will go to 4 pods, Alabama will be with Auburn, Tennessee, and vanderbilt

[@lancehenderson9844]

Nope, It'll probably go to a 4 pod system

[@auxityne]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if West Virginia is on the phone with somebody in Greensboro right now. They'd fit right into the ACC on a lot of fronts.

[@willcosper1696]

Them and Notre Dame. Completely agree

[@glen4130]

As an OSU fan, I would like to think the Big10 would be able to keep up with these changes but after Kevin Warren doubled down on how he handled last year, I'm not optimistic.

[@buckeye5088]

Kevin Warren will be the downfall of big 10 as we know it. Sad but true.

[@glen4130]

@Mosheh Clark I'm not sure I agree with "done" but I can see the Big10 becoming a second tier conference if they do not make the correct moves.

[@glen4130]

@ToddRobinson13 Clemson and Notre Dame. The ACC is hot garbage other than Clemson and as much as I hate Notre Dame, I think it makes financial sense to bring them in to the Big10.

[@machtschnell7452]

aOSU will be dead in the water for top Texas recruits. They will all be in the SEC.

[@machtschnell7452]

@@glen4130 Once Texas and OU are in the SEC, B1G and ACC become 2nd Tier conferences. PAC12 and B12 are 3rd Tier as long as they can last.

[@anthonytitone]

Iowa State to the BIG10 to make the Iowa rivalry an in conference game

[@adammauer4992]

I hope isu goes to the big ten that’s the best team honestly left in that conference now

[@RAJohns]

Kansas St. and Kansas too?

[@anthonytitone]

@@RAJohns Kansas is allegedly set to meet with the BIG10 and conferences can’t add 3 they’d have to either find a 4th team or stick to 2 which means K-State might get left behind

[@kvaselakes]

Iowa State and Kansas are the likeliest candidates for the B1G because both are members of the Association of American Universities (AAU). KSU is not an AAU member, so it is highly unlikely the B1G will extend them an invitation.

[@coryrad9575]

@@RAJohns the dumpster fire that IS Kansas football ...

[@SpideyHits]

Think we are ultimately headed to national divisions like the NFL? Two major divisions, with regional divisions underneath national divisions?

[@SpideyHits]

Well you answered my question around the 10min mark 😆

[@JuJusCornerr]

Yup lol

[@deathtoisrael5170]

2 conferences , 4 divisions in each

[@bobbysutton460]

Where is all my Nebraska fans at saying I told you Texas would ruin the big 12.

[@TnT_shadow9]

I have to admit this move adds value to the regular season for the SEC. With the addition of these two historic in tradition rich programs, and the reestablishment of old rivalries, it’s going to make for a jam packed SEC line up of matches with huge implications week to week.

[@lordrayden3045]

Big 10/14 should have tried to get Texas and Missouri instead of Maryland / Rutgers

[@glen4130]

I agree, they did it to capture the NYC tv market. The reality is almost no-one cares about either Maryland/Rutgers.

[@tony2246]

At least Missouri and Virginia. I am, and will always be a regional guy. Makes rivalry games more interesting.

[@coryrad9575]

Maryland I could kinda see (based on the Ralph Friedgen era-I thought they may have a resurgence of sorts ), but Rutgers was such an off-the-wall addition, I am still dumbfounded.

[@coryrad9575]

@Will Leonard Missouri MAYBE..no way Texas would ever.

[@pc5487]

The “Super League” of college football

[@Yargezim]

Totally agree...reminds me of the Europe super league stuff with soccer

[@jimhyman8544]

10 years from now (or maybe sooner) we'll frequently hear this comment from college football fans: "It's just not the same. I don't enjoy college football like I used to." Once that "veneer of amateurism" Josh mentioned is gone (and it's fading fast) and CFB becomes no different than the NFL, the appeal will start to wane for many fans.

[@theace8502]

Yeah I've already felt that way for a bit

[@hookem7060]

I'm also a fan of college football, but... Not liking it is not enough to keep it from happening... Basically, this type of realignment will happen whether we fans like it or not, because the TV money is just too big. So, if your Texas or OU, you make this type of power play to gain leverage on what's inevitable... NIL and talk of Playoff expansion were simply the Catalysts.

[@Jimvenice2008]

There are Power dicks and power bottoms. I know what I want my team to be.

[@drewjoeworm]

Oh I bet lol

[@ssdxytfh5543]

I feel like amateurism was always an illusion, if it wasn't they wouldn't give out scholarship for athletics

[@djLagwayEnjoyer]

They wanted people to think the players were amateurs so they could make money off them for basically nothing

[@Mikevdog]

Good point. The average student has to pay

[@SurferMan127]

Clayton Foreman This sophomoric take will go down in history as the seed that eventually grew into the end of college football 🙄.

[@hansyang1553]

This is going to be a disaster for the remaining teams in the Big12 and the sport as a whole

[@adammauer4992]

Big 12 definitely, sport as a whole ? I wouldn’t go that far

[@adammauer4992]

This is ensuring progress towards a playoff expansion cause this won’t be the first chess move by schools across the country

[@mikenotta7079]

I'm not a huge advocate of conference expansions, but the cat was let out back in the 90's and more so in late 2000's. Screw it, let's do this! Boomer!

[@hansyang1553]

@@adammauer4992 I think it's bad for college football as a whole for several reasons. 1. SEC will probably have a huge financial advantage over other conferences. 2. Encourages other conferences to merge and become superconferences - which may cause horrible road schedules and the loss of a shared regional identity. 3. Big brand teams leaving conferences for profit will financially destroy many programs. Promising teams like Iowa State are going to have to figure out a way to keep improving without the Big-12 tv money.

[@adammauer4992]

@@hansyang1553 they will be fine they just need to go to the big ten now like Iowa did . Cfb is gonna get an expansion soon trust me it’s better . Every year cfb is down to about 8-10 schools anyways . Doesn’t change much in the grand scheme honestly not until they make the playoff bigger

[@gwhite7136]

Remember when you were a big12 fan last year? A Big12 team player, coach, staff member? Remember when your season and the teetering fear of your season being cancelled? All left in the hands of a few people who could determine the financial fate of your school? Well, two teams certainly do. OU and UT. Long memories and sleepless nights. Is it any wonder they do not want a repeat of this and want to join the SEC that never blinked? Now you know.

[@gwhite7136]

@jesse smith Sure but that revenue is nothing compared to playing in a woke conference where entire seasons could be cancelled. Cause guess what? Deal or no deal with Fox, if your season is cancelled, you make squat...

[@anthonylawson2275]

The only thing that saved the SEC is a biased sports network. ESPN. There's 2 big schools in the SEC. Alabama & Georgia. Every school in the SEC have losing records against Texas. And the only people that do not think that O U is competitive enough are delusional SEC fans that pin all their loyalty to one school. Bama.

[@gwhite7136]

@@anthonylawson2275 Your dumb and missed my point. Your lib conference head nearly cancelled your season and OU and UT both realized how vulnerable they are to cancel culture. They want to come to the SEC because they know that half the teams would beat TX and more than two would beat OU. Meaning they know also that if you lined up the big 12 against the SEC, the SEC would win by far the majority of games. Team per team. You have one team that produces very good offenses, not elite but good, OU. And a respectable UT team that still would lose to the top 5 SEC schools. Maybe that chances with Sark but looking back, I seem to have missed UT's playoff appearances.. lol . Also, all time record TN vs TX. TN 31 wins, TX 21, when you consider wins in football, basketball and baseball. What are you talking about? LOL.

[@gwhite7136]

@@anthonylawson2275 Football TX vs the real UT 1/1/1969 vs. Tennessee (8-2-1) W 36 13 @ Dallas, TX Cotton Bowl 1/1/1953 vs. Tennessee (8-2-1) W 16 0 @ Dallas, TX Cotton Bowl 1/1/1951 vs. Tennessee (11-1) L 14 20 @ Dallas, TX Cotton Bowl Big whoop LOL. A one game lead in where the two teams only played once more than half a century. That isn't dominance fool lol. National titles: UT (6) TX (4). TX UT has one immortal record. Meaning, no one is likely to ever achieve it again. The 1939 UT team allowed no points scored on them in the regular season of 10 games. The most games played without a point scored on a D and probably will be the last and only team to do this.

[@gwhite7136]

@@anthonylawson2275 Most of Tx's wins against SEC schools happened before most current fans were born. In the modern era they did upset UGA a few years back. With the exception of 05, TX has dominated any SEC schools. Most of the glory was over 50 years ago.. So, maybe joining the SEC will boost that number..

[@keyesnm]

I never comment but wow. that was a fantastic video I agree with him totally. everyone wants to talk about the top programs....what about ISU TT, WVU, OSU, TCU. etc!!! and most of the number of CFB teams in the country with this? It will become a Major league and Minor league operation. Rivalries all but disappear. Not good for most of CFB team. only good for the top 15% of teams

[@hamiltonconway6966]

I agree with you. I am a fan of college football, SEC and Georgia, in that order. I am afraid of what may happen to college football.

[@l4dFanatic]

SEC before Georgia? Very odd

[@___m7425]

@@l4dFanatic right

[@johnnywadley3868]

For people that think Oklahoma will not make it. When they play Alabama a few years ago they lost by 11 points with one of the worst defenses they've ever had . When they played Georgia they lost to them in the playoff on the last play of the game in overtime who lost on the last play of the game to Alabama in the national championship once again Oklahoma had one of the worst defense statistically they've ever had. When they lost to LSU they got straight spanked LSU had a freak team Oklahoma's defense was still below par.what happens as OUs defense keeps improving and gets to top ten??

[@marktastic86]

'Bama scored at will on that OU defense. The final score wasn't as close as it seemed. It's yet to be determined how good their defense is, and with several teams in the SEC who place an emphasis on running it down your throat (that's never been OU's strong suit), I'll be interested to see how they fare.

[@jimgallagher2979]

There were rumors years ago about Texas going to the SEC. Finally, Vandy will get a competitive game.

[@coryrad9575]

Sounds about right

[@deebz2626]

I believe the SEC is fine the way it is, we don't need a superpower conference

[@hunter51932]

We already are the superpower conference

[@angelathomas4821]

OU and Texas would be a good thing.

[@chinajoe272]

Can Texas accept being a bottom feeder fighting Vandy year in and out for relevancy?

[@mikedenman2567]

Sark will make Texas a winner

[@BadMantraFilms]

I want whatever drugs you’re taking

[@nicholasoberle2894]

Vandy? Not saying Texas will win big or take over the SEC, but I seem to recall a game I was at where most of the Texas players left for the draft and quite a few Georgia players stayed for the bowl. Let me tell ya, 28-7 in the 4th quarter, that was a blowout. Georgia was ranked 5...

[@chinajoe272]

@@BadMantraFilms lol maybe vandy is strong but they wont be above middle of pack with Kentucky, missouri, Arkansas

[@tooeachisown1]

You sir don't know anything about football outside of vandy lol

[@GoldBlueDude]

Get rid of the question mark, IT'S HAPPENING!!

[@2madjon]

Love your take Josh and I agree. The dam has broken and college athletics will never be the same.

[@Qudths]

if this goes through, then it creates a super conference where they would dominate at least 50% of the playoff spots. it would kill competition even more. this would be the beginning of the end of college football. way to fucking go texas. way to ruin everything.

[@lemerkin3633]

Texas and oklahoma* and it won’t be nearly this bad calm down bud 😂

[@Qudths]

​@@lemerkin3633 let's do the math. currently there are around 65 P5+ teams that hold interest to the public. some P5 schools, people don't care about football, while there are a few G5 schools where it's popular, so lets round to 65 teams that currently draw in tv eyeballs. with essentially 2.5 super conferences, it will whittle that number down to... what, maybe 40 schools? and with the SEC probably vying for 6 of those spots, that would reduce the number of schools competing (aka, fans invested in watching/attending football) to 25 to 30 schools. let's see how sustainable that will be in the long run. also, yes OU is messing it up, but honestly, i'm not sure which admin is more embarrassing. UT who bungled up the Big 12 with their greed to start (or even the Big 8 earlier), or OU playing always playing little brother to UT and clutching to UT's pocket as they get dragged along.

[@presidentjayhawk9214]

Its not their fault maybe the big 12 should of treated them better

[@longhorns6221]

Yeah it is all of Texas fault, not. Wake up, the NIL has changed the landscape. Texas and OU see the writing on the wall.

[@Ram-zc4fi]

@@longhorns6221 nah it’s texas’ fault horns down

[@willeubanks4957]

When I first heard the news I thought it was fake. This is insane. Now I can't stop watching videos on this. Also to note what stadium is in my profile picture. (Gaylord Family Memorial Stadium)

[@laythefoundation2083]

I think This is a horrible idea. If this happens it'll kill college football for everyone but the SEC You'd be better off just holding an annual 4 team SEC playoff than bother expanding the national championship to 12 teams with Texas and OU in the SEC

[@tepatrilee3009]

It's exactly the opposite. This will do nothing but water down Oklahoma, Texas, and all of the current SEC teams as more conference games means more conference losses every season. It will help every football program outside of the SEC and Oklahoma and Texas. Ask Nebraska how things are going in the Big Ten. If Oklahoma and Texas come in and win in the SEC, at least two current SEC powers will be shifted down to 2nd tier teams with more conference losses every season.

[@granvillefriel2263]

I kinda think that's the plan...We don't need the other leagues

[@tonyg.6148]

@@granvillefriel2263 yeah and keeping with the philosophy that's why sports is a microcosm of life America just like its sports is done every empire ends including America will be know exception greed and arrogance is usually the culprit

[@granvillefriel2263]

@@tonyg.6148 Ugh America ain't a empire it's a republic... Probably the last empire was Brittan..But it's all about product .Collage is just a Marxist organization too brain wash kids...

[@deez26788]

Well more fans of other conferences need to start being more passionate about it. And sec games regardless of talent and rankings are just different in person and via broadcast. I can literally tell it's and sec game just by the sound of the crowds with out seeing the TV.

[@DanDaly762]

Clemson and Notre Dame should join the SEC next lol. That’s a joke... but seriously

[@joshuaharrelson572]

If the big moves to poach some of the aau schools in the acc then absolutely they should. Hell just recreate the old southern conference again.

[@jeffperry7971]

Good news/bad news: Notre Dame has an endowment of over $15 billion (with a B) billion. With that said, Notre Dame could start their own conference rather than join one, if they chose to do so.

[@tennesseecurtiss5741]

Atleast Texas and OU somewhat make sense, i also heard somewhere abt Ohio St and Michigan joining the SEC which is stupid as hell, stuff like that would ruin the SEC and the B1G both, and it makes zero sense, I think Texas and OU to the SEC, Boise State, Memphis, UCF, and Cincinnati to the BIG12.

[@Ricko333]

I don’t want them to join the SEC bad idea.

[@jhall9868]

I always thought josh was funded by the sec. I found a new respect for the man

[@Nobles44]

What do you mean? "funded by the sec"? He's always been fair though...

[@jrburton6835]

Josh is balanced man.

[@chadlockhart397]

Josh is spot on. 1 super league is where this is headed, with the SEC & B1G merging (or aligning) and pulling in SoCal, ND, and choice others, based on TV markets and…. Basketball. Yes, the league will be CFB, but $’s are in hoops too. In addition to FB powers, I imagine that UNC, UVa, Duke and UCLA at some point will be in the picture and the NCAA will not be involved.

[@mitchellberg9975]

The NCAA died as an authority when covid hit between how they let the conferences handle that on their own and how they were kicked and dragged SCREAMING into dealing with NIL this doesn't shock me at all.

[@basicmovietime3851]

Man, keep them in the Big 12 and send A&M and Missouri back. This is ridiculous.

[@brandonroy05]

@Down In Texas I think if OU and Texas join the SEC, college football is done IMO done*

[@rashawnbasnet6461]

Man screw the big 12 let them fold I don't give a damn about Texas but I hope Oklahoma does go to the southeast conference I would much rather have teams like alabama-auburn Florida Georgia LSU playing in Norman than Kansas or Baylor or Texas tech But I would assume you are a Texas man and know the longhorns don't have a chance in hell of winning a Southeast conference championship they can't even win a big 12 conference championship

[@tonystewartfan2014]

@@brandonroy05 for sure

[@tonystewartfan2014]

@@rashawnbasnet6461 big 12 won March madness and had the most teams in the top 25

[@basicmovietime3851]

@@rashawnbasnet6461 A Texas man? I’m a Georgia fan my guy. I just don’t want to see every single norm in football be thrown away

[@johnlinn9297]

East - AL, FL,GA, Tn, Vandy, KY, Au West - LSU, MSU, Miss, Mo, Tamu, OK, TX

[@huckfinn9225]

you forgot, University of Arkansas

[@johnlinn9297]

@@huckfinn9225 sure did. Also forgot SC. So I guess Sc in the East and AR in the West.

[@huckfinn9225]

@@johnlinn9297 sounds like some good divisions, Mr Linn.

[@cynicalcb]

Hell the SEC would just need to add Clemson and Ohio State and just forget the rest of the nation

[@jbmemphis2151]

I’d rather have Clemson and Florida st. At least they are in the south east

[@cynicalcb]

@@jbmemphis2151 I think we threw the southeast part out when we added A&M and Missouri

[@onesimusfoster816]

@@cynicalcb osu???!!!!!! hell no that's suicide for them and I'm not rooting for them just like I do when it comes to mizzou hate them both mizzou don't belong in the SEC at all!!!!!!

[@bobbynash282]

I think it will lessen their chance of making the playoffs. Im just saying its tough here. An will decimate the big 12.

[@Tijuanabill]

OU will make the playoff every year, in a 12 team playoff that takes 4 or more SEC teams every year.

[@bobbynash282]

@@Tijuanabill lm saying everyone whines already. Bama Ou Clemson Osu Ga . After we just about kill ourselves in the schedule. Were beaten up so badly its hard to make it. Nothing against Ou.

[@heelyfreek1]

Expanding the playoffs will just create space for more SEC teams to get in. As long as OU only has one loss they’re in 9/10 years

[@bigbossman3987]

@@heelyfreek1 This is the difference between the SEC & Big 12. ALL-TIME TEAM RANKINGS, based off of the formula used by The College Football Data Warehouse in their all-time team rankings list. #1. Alabama #2. Notre Dame #3. USC #4. Oklahoma #5. Ohio St. #6. Michigan #7. LSU #8. Texas #9. Nebraska #10. Tennessee #11. Georgia #12. Florida #13. Auburn #14. Penn St. #15. Miami #16. Georgia Tech #17. Minnesota #18. Florida St. #19. Michigan St. #20. Texas A&M #21. Washington #22. Pittsburgh #23. Arkansas #24. UCLA #25. Ole Miss In the Big 12 Oklahoma played against 1 other ALL-TIME TOP 25 RANKED PROGRAM, #8 Texas. If Texas & Oklahoma move to the SEC, Oklahoma would then be playing in a conference that has 10 other ALL-TIME TOP 25 RANKED PROGRAMS in it !! Oklahoma will go from playing in a conference with 1 other ALL-TIME TOP 10 RANKED PROGRAM in it, #8 Texas !! With Texas & Oklahoma moving to the SEC, Oklahoma will now be in a conference with 4 other ALL-TIME TOP 10 RANKED PROGRAMS, along with 3 other programs that are right on the cusp of being an ALL-TIME TOP 10 RANKED PROGRAM !!! The next two BIG 12 member schools on that list after both Oklahoma & Texas, is TCU at #35 & Baylor at #40 !!! Oklahoma will win some games in the SEC, there’s no doubt about that. Yet Oklahoma will also lose some games in the SEC as well !! The SEC just simply has more teams in it that can lineup and beat anybody in the country in any given year, than what the other conferences have. Therefore making it a lot easier for an elite team to get beat in the SEC than what it is in other conferences. A program like Ole Miss will send you home with a loss real quick like. They’ve beaten Alabama & Florida both in seasons when they were awarded a mythical FBS football national championship !!! I’ve watched Oklahoma get down pretty big in some Big 12 conference games throughout the years, just from Oklahoma to come back in the 2nd half of those games to win them. If you do something like that in most SEC games, well than it’s about a 99% chance that you’re gonna lose that game, regardless of who you are or who you’re playing against !!! Oklahoma will be competitive in the SEC, but they won’t be reeling off 5 & 6 straight conference championships in a row in the SEC like what they’ve been able to do in the Big 12 !!!! I don’t know how many conference championships Oklahoma has won since the 2000 season without looking it up, but I know it’s been a lot of them. Yet look at how competitive the SEC has been over that same time period !!! Number of SEC conference championships in football since the 2000 season. #1. Alabama - 7 2009, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018 & 2020. #2. LSU - 5 2001, 2003, 2007, 2011 & 2019. #3. Auburn - 3 2004, 2010 & 2013. #3. Florida - 3 2000, 2006 & 2008. #3. Georgia - 3 2002, 2005 & 2017. Five different teams thats won 3 or more conference championships since the 2000 season !!! Tennessee, South Carolina & Missouri have all played in the SEC conference championship game during that same time period as well !!! Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Ole Miss & Texas A&M are the only SEC member schools that have never played in the SEC conference championship game. Both Arkansas & Mississippi St. played in the SEC conference championship game during the 1990’s. LSU’s upset win over #2 ranked Tennessee in the 2001 SEC conference championship game knocked Tennessee out of the 2001 BCS mythical FBS football national championship game against #1 ranked Miami. In the 2014 season a late game 4th & 26 conversion by Arkansas against Ole Miss, lead to a late game score and win for Arkansas over Ole Miss. That Ole Miss loss to Arkansas knocked Ole Miss out of the 2014 SEC championship game, while allowing for an Alabama team that Ole Miss had beaten during the regular season to play in the SEC championship game over them !!! There hasn’t been that much diversity within any other conference over that same time period !!!

[@heelyfreek1]

@@bigbossman3987 I’m not an OU fan lol. I’m an Arkansas fan. I have no doubt OU can win in the sec. playoffs every year probably not but maybe. Bring them on they’re a great program and I’m ready for a change in how the scheduling works anyways. Put us in 4 groups so that you don’t have to wait 10 years to play schools from the other side of the conference

[@Tijuanabill]

As an OU fan, I don't feel bad at all. Not even a little bit. The Big 12 teams have had a hand in our pocket for years, and they don't even spend the money on football. Their stadiums are half empty, their boosters do not write checks, and their fans do not care if they win or lose. Why should we pretend like those conference games matter, when everyone knows it's just a charity drive all season long, followed by the real games at the end of the year, of which you get 2 or 3 only if you are really lucky.

[@amazinggable]

The SEC should pass on the longhorns. They think everyone should “ bow to the cow” and will think they are the most important school in the conference. They call the shots in the Big 12, and they will assume the same in the SEC. it will be a mistake to bring on the drama of tu.

[@chakawoowoo]

They're about to eat a whole lot of humble pie in the sec meat grinder of slobber knocker football. Put up or shut up is the name of the game in the sec . And don't give me the old Vandy cliche talking point. They're one of the founding legacy members

[@lloyddillon4537]

Everyone knows bama runs the SEC

[@theace8502]

Well yeah but like no one will really care whenever they're getting killed by Bama or Georgia or Oklahoma so. Cuz really, Bama and uga run the conference, so if Texas wants everyone to "bow to the cow" they're gonna get humbled real quick lol cuz the sec is run by those schools, not Texas

[@theace8502]

Plus LSU, and probably A&M and Florida. So yeah, Texas is whatever

[@siccs7]

Uhhhhhh Texas doesnt call the shots in the Big 12 and never has...OU does.

[@ericscottstevens]

Attended 3 SEC schools Welcome aboard Texas and Oklahoma!

[@davidburks4657]

I thought I see Clemson and Florida State moving to the SEC before Texas and Oklahoma.

[@brianw5336]

@James SS that don't why wouldn't Florida what Florida state in the same conference with them

[@onesimusfoster816]

@James SS The SEC gave invites to fsu multiple times they rejected it.!

[@thomaspowers8140]

Well said brother! You have changed my mind. The way you put it... I couldn’t agree more

[@gb5085]

I'm a Florida fan getting ready to become a Texas fan. Same feelings as Josh on this one.

[@xandercrews4729]

That makes no sense.

[@theinfinity2988]

Yeah I don’t want Texas or Oklahoma joining the sec

[@zacharylansing]

Why’s that. :)

[@walterdelgallo4304]

This is getting crazy, Texas and Oklahoma jumping to the SEC. Now I wonder if West Virginia will jump to the ACC and well Notre Dame too. Then what happen to the rest of the Big 12 teams?

[@coachp651]

RIP big 12

[@dalemarkwell1171]

@@coachp651 You said... "RIP big 12" That's not an answer to the question that Walter Del Gallo asked. He asked "what happen to the rest of the Big 12 teams?" He didn't ask what would happen to the Big 12.

[@xandercrews4729]

IMO here’s what happens: WV - ACC Remaining Texas schools & Ok St- Pac 12 Kansas and Iowa St- B10

[@WalterFlanagin]

@@xandercrews4729 u forgot K state lol probably big10 but then it’d be uneven

[@xandercrews4729]

@@WalterFlanagin My apologies to them. They might have to move the AAC. Or maybe the B12 could try to convince Mizzou, Nebraska, Colorado and old Southwest conference member Arkansas to return.

[@Harlem139Convent1]

Man, my son called this 2 years ago, i think this comes down to recruiting!! Bama is taking every top recruit out of Texas, and what Bama don’t get A&m does!!!

[@armus550b]

Reorganize the Sec into 3 divisions : East, West and the Sec Lite. OU can join Texas, Vandy, Missouri, Kentucky and rotate in any team that falls to win four games a year (Arkansas - Tennessee)

[@Reddeath111]

SEC East ,SEC West, and the SUC

[@guyrigsby8706]

Iowa St. and West Virginia to Big10

[@brettfinlay7447]

Get rid of Rutgers and Maryland. A bunch of trash football teams.

[@Field_Marshall]

SEC should join the NFL D League lol

[@BB-uu9oo]

They are the d league.

[@waviiboiitrey6]

You ain’t lie 😂💯

[@SurferMan127]

I mean… that’s where this is headed. We’re losing the connection to the colleges. People think that’s this wonderful inevitability that will represent the sport having finally “arrived.” I wonder if those people are aware of how little people care about “semi pro” sports.

[@markduett1532]

"It doesn't matter whether we want college football to go down this path!" - The Rock

[@SurferMan127]

Precisely WHY doesn’t it matter?

[@markduett1532]

@@SurferMan127 'Cause it gonna be what it gonna be!

[@SurferMan127]

Mark Duett Okay… So you don’t think (1) fans should have input, (2) that college football should make intelligent decisions based on what is good for the long term health of the sport? What EXACTLY has you thinking that ANY of this over commercialization garbage is simply automatic?

[@markduett1532]

@@SurferMan127 It doesn't matter what I think. But you are welcome to keep up the good fight, for whatever good you think it will do. Best of luck with that!

[@ep1475]

Anyone else worried that this will make the conference too big? I guess what I’m saying is that I like the idea of college football, I like that it’s not the NFL. I like arguing with people about the best conference and so on. Now though, I don’t really know what’s separating it from pro now. I hope CFB has the same feel

[@dcrob20002]

They’re too big already. Teams in the same conference won’t play each other for years.

[@ep1475]

@@dcrob20002 yea I agree

[@ep1475]

@RJ Least of These Farm who would you suggest

[@dalemarkwell1171]

My gut tells me that many of us (including some of you who presently think this is a good idea) will look back on this as a disastrous decision in the history of college sports. College sports was the only reason I had left for pay TV. This could end up saving me a LOT of money. I wonder how many more people there will be out there like me? Gunsmoke and Green Acres... here I come.

[@trevorcollins25]

Something interesting to think about is if the number of conference games were to increase per season!! It may not seem like much, but imagine last year if Georgia had to play A&M, and Florida had to play Bama during the regular season!! How different would things have been? Yeah, we can, “what if,” this stuff to death, but the fact is, one more win or loss for different teams not only affects the conference standings, but the national standings as well!! It will just be interesting to see how this all plays out...

[@J_Chris_B]

This sounds like the end of the NCAA

[@xandercrews4729]

Still an entity to make sure there’s no academic fraud or other abuse.

[@robertgates5164]

Simply a minor league for the NFL now. Since recruiters can say we'll get you a million dollar commercial deal if you come play for us, let's just quit pretending it is about school.

[@xandercrews4729]

@@robertgates5164 The kids who care about a future after football will still take academics seriously.

[@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall]

People complain that the Big 12 is weak and irrelevant... OU and Texas decides to go to a strong conference NOW it’s all of a sudden the end?? 😂😂😂

[@SurferMan127]

No, just college football. The other non-revenue-generating sports have ZERO reason to disrupt the way their conference systems work. This is the definition of myopic money-grubbing.

[@Tom-n5tti]

Well the Old SWC will be back together again :)

[@scottym.9077]

UT can’t compete in the SEC and OU will drastically reduce how often they make it to the playoffs. I really don’t understand why either team would want this.

[@krxahfb]

Ou has delusions of grandeur that this will somehow allow them to get a higher level of defensive recruit. The thing that the fan base doesn’t understand is that the schedule they are about to sign up for.

[@crammons7330]

As an LSU fan I actually think UT would and can compete right away just fine...maybe not make or win the conference right away BUT if they join just look at how quickly A&M was able to recruit and improve stadium and facilities as well as hire Jimbo after joining SEC, now throw in Texas and it's $ and with Sark already recruiting great now he would only get a boost there in joining sec and Texas is loaded with top tier talent this year and for years to come as they always are and have been, just more abundantly so this year and following...OU has talent and would also make adjustments necessary to get further up to par and speed with the conference and be just fine competing for division titles or sec championships every 3 to 4 years I'd say for sure...meaning they get a veteran squad together and loaded with juniors and seniors playing both sides of ball along with an elite level QB like they always have and produce along with using transfer portal available now they'd be in it and as competitive as my Tigers and at least Auburn and A&M is in the west specifically. ...I dont mention Alabama as Bama is it's own elite tier of level of accomplishments etc in not only sec but all of college football during any era the game's been played lol

[@Phantomplasma430]

UT would be middle of the pack barely over .500..... OU would be 3 or 4, but never get SEC title or national championship shot. They will regret. Also UT will lose their control and longhorn network would be over

[@crammons7330]

@@Phantomplasma430 I agree on UT being at or barely above a 500 team right now in sec as it stands, but if Sarkisian runs a tight ship and keeps up recruiting as he currently is doing, which only would get a boost by joining sec, then with their location, money pool, facilities, education etc would be completely capable and should by all means likely to bring in talent and staff needed to make them a true upper tier sec program within 3 to 5 years time...I'd say even quicker as the elite talent in Texas alone this year and next is outrageous and abundant as many top 100 players are from Texas, and if in sec I believe they get more of them than A&M if not immediately then soon, and with transfer portal changes and availability now too I think they could be ready to truly compete in sec within a short period of time...not saying win division or league that fast but be in the running for and a team to count on competing for those accolades after several years if what I stated occurs for them. And OU I believe could compete fine and bring in more recruits to get them over hump they've been at and unable to get past in previous seasons as they'd be able to recruit some players and actually obtain in positions of need they haven't been able to routinely fill after joining sec and having a bigger pool of talent available and interested that want to play in the best league in college football and may have otherwise passed on OU's program in big 12....just my worthless 2 cents and opinion though

[@crammons7330]

Either way I look forward to and welcome the additions to the conference as an LSU fan and would enjoy the games and competition it would certainly bring and offer for years to come....A&M has already been a great series for us since their joining sec west so i can only imagine having to play Texas Longhorns every year

[@cadbane7780]

Yep, Logos out. Can’t wait to play Texas and OU every year plus 150M from longhorn network money, 60M Oklahoma money

[@lochnessmonster5149]

Longhorns network will get canceled day one.

[@Tijuanabill]

The Longwhorn network was an abysmal failure that lost money for ESPN. It's going away regardless of the conference UT plays in.

[@thefuzzman]

SEC2 😂

[@thegood9]

People have GOT to start weighing CONSEQUENCES of things more heavily. Nothing wrong with NIL, or transfer portals, BUT…IT’S THE CONSEQUENCES of those that will destroy college football.

[@BrianGlaze]

It wont destroy it but there is a possibility for a big change

[@thegood9]

@@BrianGlaze Oh, it will definitely destroy it as we know it. We are looking at NFL "lite", or "minor league football".

[@BrianGlaze]

@@thegood9 I disagree with the conclusion that it would destroy the sport even if does become NFL lite

[@thegood9]

@@BrianGlaze As i said, it would destroy it as we know it. It will be professional sports, and simply a minor league.

[@lmack002]

A better and more profitable move on both a football and basketball front would be to have Oklahoma and Kansas move to the Big 10.

[@THEFAITHFULPALADIN]

Oklahoma doesn't want to go to the Big10! The AD, Administration, coaching & even their politicians just don't want to go to the Big10.... it would be a step down.... where going to the SEC is a lateral move for OU.

[@lmack002]

@@THEFAITHFULPALADIN word is that both Texas and Oklahoma both wanted to go to the Big 10 but they’d have to be a package deal. The Big 10 wanted Texas but not Oklahoma because they are not an AAU member university. Go figure.

[@THEFAITHFULPALADIN]

@@lmack002 Sorry.... your "word is".... is wrong.

[@lmack002]

@@THEFAITHFULPALADIN it sounds right. The Big 10 is the most profitable conference in all of college sports.

[@THEFAITHFULPALADIN]

@@lmack002 Yep... Undisputed! What they DON'T have is all the LOVE, attention and good will that the ESPN contract gives the SEC on & off the screen (goodwill in kitchens & living rooms across the country on the recruiting trail etc.) and.... and they don't have perennial National Championships or the Florida/Georgia talent base to regularly recruit from(not just steal one every now & then). Understand this, none of the SEC teams or any other conference for that matter really WANT to play OU week in & week out with only 3-4 days preparation.... inspite of what fans say, that's a coaching reality. It's fine if you're given +4 weeks to prepare.... you gotta chance. Those chances are greatly reduced if you're having to face THAT offense with only 3 days prep. The SEC is THE Big Dog in collegiate football & it has more teams capable of attempting that task with occasional success than any other conference. In the Big10 there's but one that would occasionally have a chance. OU has rightfully determined that they MUST have that to continue their path to multiple National Championships including the increase in financial rewards it brings and it's not in the BIG12 or the BIG10.

[@cic6002]

He’s absolutely right there’s not enough to go around all you really have left is USC in the PAC 12 Ohio State and Clemson. As far as the big brand names go…

[@KevinCCucumber]

and Oregon

[@billywilliams8753]

You make a lot of valid points.

[@billp5656]

I don’t like adding either team. They are NOT in the southeastern USA. I also don’t care for the NIL deal that will only benefit skill position players. The lineman make them look good or bad but get very little.

[@KevinCCucumber]

Michigan struck a deal to where all their players can get money off jersey sales. Go support the lineman when other schools do this

[@judemiller]

I just realized that if we go to 12 playoff teams with 6 conference champs, and the Big 12 goes away, at least two G5 champs will get in every year.

[@groobells]

Yeah this is my counter argument and the last shred of balance. If 6 conference champs are guaranteed spots in the playoffs then that makes the other leagues and teams seasons still relevant to their fans. In fact for 2 group of 5 conferences it makes the seasons even more relevant on a national stage then before this. But if that doesn’t happen or gets taken away then there will be no more checks to keep the smaller leagues relevant in the national spotlight which is a major problem

[@mistanderson]

Boy stop they not putting in no DAMN 2 G5 champs. Be smart

[@waynewilliams5353]

Any auto bid in general is ignorance

[@kcchristian]

The thing everyone is forgetting is that this affects more than just CFB. Big 12 basketball would be torn apart. This affects EVERY sport, and I don’t like that. This is schools, specifically football schools, getting selfish.

[@KevinCCucumber]

Texas has done this shit before too

[@arrowjsmith153]

71 percent of all 5 and 4 star football players play for the SEC.

[@tony2246]

The other 29% play at Ohio State

[@ShoTyme]

And Clemson

[@tony2246]

True

[@bucco7]

Josh, thanks for sharing so elegantly what I’ve been trying to say (even on the Paul Finebaum show) what the NIL is doing to a sport we have all loved. Equal footing is long gone… without some regulation governing the sport (even self imposed) we will be destroying college football. I am afraid we are heading to a sport controlled by who has the largest wallet-not the best program. In 5 years we will not even recognize the sport so many of us love. it won’t be long befo

[@patronequities9054]

This is all about those conferences response (money lost) to COVID-19. Which is why the Big Ten and PAC 12 are not an option.

[@patronequities9054]

@@BlackMountainCycles if that was the case they would join the Big Ten, it's a more natural fit. The SEC could relegate both teams to second tier. No it's about mindset and culture not just TV

[@hbleblanc205]

Very simple setup for new SEC. 4 divisions, each team plays the other 3 in their division, and two teams from each other the divisions. So 6 out of division and 3 in for a total of 9 then add 3 non-conference to get 12. Divisions West: Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Texas A&M "South": LSU, Missouri, Ole Miss, Mississippi State Central: Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt East: Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky

[@thefuzzman]

How would they determine a champion?

[@hbleblanc205]

Playoff. Best from each division.

[@thefuzzman]

@@hbleblanc205 So you're proposing up to about 17 games for college? 12 for regular season, your semifinals, conference finals, and up to 3 playoff games (assuming this starts around the time playoffs expand to 12 teams because this won't happen for a couple of years or so)?

[@hbleblanc205]

@@thefuzzman possibly. Another option is only 2 non-conference games. But they have to be good ones. No easy FCS teams.

[@wileymacknally7999]

I really think this is going to hurt Oklahoma’s chances at making it to the playoffs, at least in a 4 team system.

[@dylancobb6965]

If OU gets placed in the SEC east they are running that division. No team is competing with them other than Georgia SOME YEARS…. But if this were to happen the SEC championship would mean more than the Nation Championship.

[@wileymacknally7999]

My understanding is that Alabama and Auburn would move to the east. Granite Alabama is the best team in the West currently but you can’t sleep on A&M, LSU, and as bad as I hate to say it Ole Miss. There’s a possibility of MSU being a great team in another year or so but I’m not all the way sold on the air raid just yet.

[@joshuasanford6934]

@@wileymacknally7999 While that would make since I’d hate to lose the LSU alabama rivalry. That needs to be a priority to uphold it because that’s usually a bigger game then many established rivalries.

[@wileymacknally7999]

I agree about the rivalry games and who knows what they are really going to do, right now everything is just speculation.

[@mikeyfoofoo]

@@joshuasanford6934 It seems like the LSU AL game would still be scheduled every year regardless. It just makes too much money.

[@danielhaiden2860]

This is a terrible idea. Staying in the Big 12 would’ve been their best chances of getting into Playoffs. Going into the SEC, too many teams to compete with

[@vplexico]

If you were a 2nd or 3rd tier SEC program and only won the SEC maybe once or twice in your history, maybe back when there were 10 schools, congratulations-you are never winning it again. You’re probably never even getting to Atlanta.

[@theace8502]

Heck, even once great programs that have struggled for a bit are never going to be good again either, like Tennessee. We are never going to even go to Atlanta now, forever will suck it up bc Bama, Florida, uga, and Auburn will be in our division

[@ragingcyclone369]

With this happening last night, I suspect we'll see Iowa State and West Virginia heading to the Big 10 (they fit better into that conference) within the next week. I wouldn't be surprised if those calls were being made right after Big 12 conference call last night. Why would they stay in the Big 12 with TX and OU leaving? The farthest north and east teams leaving I expect will be the next announcements.

[@robertgates5164]

Doubt it. Big 10 leadership isn't about athletics, they are about region and academics. That is why they took Maryland and Rutgers for expansion. New markets but academic schools. Warren is going to be the cause of the Big 10 dying.

[@arrowjsmith153]

No other conference has anything close to the SEC. Last year the SEC shared 757 million dollars more than any conference in the country. 757 divided by 14 equals 54 million dollars per team. No other conference can even come close. SEC is the Conference who has owned college football for over 25 years.

[@mikenotta7079]

With OU/UT, the money will go through the roof.

[@Saturdayz_In_The_Fall]

As a Sooner fan I agree Texas and Oklahoma needs to be in the SEC. it’s a big win win situation for everybody in the SEC .. Ohio State.. kiss your playoff dreams goodbye. 😂

[@dougrose7334]

Sooners are making out like bandits here. We (UT) are getting the national flak for this..how the hell are you guys avoiding the villain tag? haha. We've grown used to it. To be honest we kind of like it. Bring the hate.

[@beantaz3862]

Didn't the WAC try this already?

[@edwardmiller4562]

Yeah but that was the WAC.

[@shipleyzimlich8032]

I think this is great news for Alabama!

[@Number3boyz]

Lol higher ratings to another two game beat downs

[@Number3boyz]

@@bluealvey I’m an idiot ? Lol you think you took my OC? I’m not a Alabama fan homie. Your the idiot for assuming things. I’m a realist, and love a team that’s a non SEC team. Oklahoma and Texas will get beat down for years to come.

[@Number3boyz]

@@bluealvey it’s proven facts to look what happens in the first round of the playoffs. Oklahoma and Texas will have to play that in competition all year around get your facts straight.

[@brockmorris8764]

@@bluealvey Oklahoma beat a Florida team that literally did not care at all. They just lost on the last play of the SEC championship to bama, and dan mullen even said they were just ready for next year. OU gets boatraced by bama, UGA, and UF.

[@Number3boyz]

@@brockmorris8764 facts don’t forget LSU.

[@A_Realist]

I feel bad for the sec east if Alabama is switching divisions lol

[@rong8889]

🤦🏾‍♂️Imma a Georgia fan. But I'll say, let's do it (In my shaky Shaggy from Scooby-Doo voice)

[@dennishilton5724]

Yep....but then again, I don't think anybody wud long-time fare well against the Tide. They are the present dominate team. They don't have a history of losing very often. If for no other reason you want to play them to learn & measure where you're at.

[@A_Realist]

I get what you’re saying Dennis because Alabama will be there more often than not. But I’d rather play them in the SEC championship than have to play them every single year in my division. At least GA or FL can make the playoffs with an appearance in the sec championship game and hope some other team takes them out for you. Unless you want the smoke lol

[@dennishilton5724]

@@A_Realist Wow...you really are a Realest ! But I think all this talk about TX & OK in the SEC may be just that - Talk. People are jumping to conclusions. Nothing like that is even possible til '25 anyway cuz of TV deals. Even then, the SEC wud have to offer & accept. All this is newsworthy but , typically , people are sensationalizing it. I'm already kinda tired of it. But 1 thing is for sure : CFB is changing Very rapidly so who knows ?

[@bowtiedone2784]

If they're going to take it to this level and make it all about money and product then they should have a draft like the NFL to spread the talent out equally. I can remember a time when there were enough teams to make 4 powerhouse conferences in the late 80s early 90s. I still believe this too. Look at teams like Illinois and Indiana and Iowa state. At one time Kansas State. I just think a lot of Great traditional Teams have lost their luster. If you've followed football since the 70s then you know who those teams are. The Georgia Bulldogs are just another Tennessee of the 90s only without the National Championship but we won't go down that rabbit hole lol.

[@shanewindhaus8385]

I don't disagree with any of the sentiment but I was pretty excited when UF added the future Texas home and home. The possibility of Auburn moving to the East is also intriguing for me because I do miss the Gators playing AU every year like it was before. As long as the Cocktail Party stays in Jacksonville I'm okay with any outcome though.

[@dcfisdf1235]

Texas is going to immediately start rotting the SEC internally. Its who they are and what they do.

[@kommsofort6977]

Yes, that's what aggressive cancer does.

[@captaing834]

Very good commentary.

[@ricklyle3739]

I agree 100% with what you said. Didn’t like the transfer portal from day one, absolutely can’t stand the idea of a 12 team playoff. I’m a lifetime War Eagle but how is Oklahoma State, Baylor, & TCU going to stay relevant even though they each have won their conference in the last 10 years?

[@PeeedaPan]

B1G should be calling up ou and texas. Get em in the B1G where they can make the most money!!

[@Tijuanabill]

TBH OU is just trying to keep more of the money they are already generating for the Big 12.

[@Peter.Young21]

You can't run forever Aggies! We are coming for you.

[@chrisfrazier5197]

Lol running from you? Yeah, we have Jimbo Fisher. We're terrified.

[@tightywhitey9779]

Straight up BS. We are fucking ready regardless what our AD says. See you on Thanksgiving.

[@Peter.Young21]

@@tightywhitey9779 I hope you are ready. But, your program is running scared right now. Big brother is on our way over to your house. 76-37

[@tightywhitey9779]

@@Peter.Young21 Don’t care what the AD says. We’ve transformed our program in the last 10 years. It’s time. See you soon.

[@tepatrilee3009]

Nobody is afraid of Texas right now. That's just silly and more than a little bit delusional. A&M was one spot away from the playoffs last year while Texas was firing their coach. Texas is averaging 5 losses per year every year since 2009. Oklahoma State is only averaging 3 losses per season during that time...maybe we SEC folks should be looking at them instead?

[@dcrob20002]

100% agree with you.

[@redxraider0613]

I love chaos in sports, and I'm loving it. Big12 needs to extend an offer to UCF and Memphis but put a fork in the big12.

[@tigerpride8977]

This super conference thing is exciting and scary. It adds competition on hand but it also wrecks some conferences at the same time. Personally, I think the SEC is competitive as is, especially the West. I can see a ton of collateral damage if this move were to go through.

[@ReadR00ster1]

I don't think anyone in the schools involved would not love the idea because it's consolidating their agency because it will be hard to stop seasons.

[@frostisbestinworld]

As a Texas fan I like the move because of recruiting. It seems like we’ve never been able to pull the big lineman or 5 ⭐️ guys outside of wide receiver and db because they want to go to the SEC or OSU/Clemson. This should benefit OU in the same way which will be scary because those big linebackers who refuse to be in any other conference could do some damage teamed with Riley’s offensive mind.

[@larrypilgrim12]

I am with you! 100 % don't like it.

[@greggalloway1276]

So Oklahoma St., Baylor, Texas Tech, and West Virginia to the ACC? Out of all of them I could see WV going!

[@xandercrews4729]

My guess is Ok St and the remains Texas schools go to the P12. Kansas and Iowa St go to B10 and WV to the ACC

[@88jaspersimmons]

The only thing I disagree with is the blaming of NIL/transfer portal. Amateurism didn’t die because the players got paid. It died when the coaches got paid. No amateur sport needs 8 figure salary coaches on their payroll. Of course players would demand their fair share after that.

[@JJWestmoreland84]

There's been rumors, not sure how true they are, that certain SEC programs( Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, and South Carolina)have an alliance to keep out other major programs from their states(FSU & Miami, GT, Louisville, and Clemson). If this is true, I could see A&M trying to get in on this agreement. What I'm more concerned about is, if this happens, what happens to lesser programs in the SEC? Do underachievers get shown the door? For anyone thinking there is not a precedent for that, Temple was removed from the old Big East for not being competitive. Could that happen to Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Kentucky, or anyone else who struggles to maintain top-tier programs?

[@thefuzzman]

Actually, there's a "gentleman's agreement" that a university has the ability to block another school from the same state joining. It was made with former SEC commissioner Slive. So, in theory, A&M could stop Texas from joining. But, like I said, that agreement was with a former commissioner, so, who knows now?

[@JJWestmoreland84]

@@thefuzzman I had heard that, but I didn't think there was really a way to verify that. Seems like that could lead to some legal issues if it were proven.

[@thefuzzman]

@@JJWestmoreland84 I guess that "agreement" wasn't worth the promise that was made. And A&M actually approved their addition.

[@briggsofdisaster]

Just for fun. Big Ten and ACC merger. Geographically, it kinda makes sense. The rivalries would be awesome for both football AND basketball. Notre Dame might FINALLY be forced into joining a conference. It would be a money making juggernaut that the SEC would have trouble keeping up with. That’s the super conference that I want to see. But for now, it’s just fun to theorize.

[@Tijuanabill]

That would be too many teams. The one thing that has yet to happen in re-alignment, is teams being asked to leave the conference.

[@tarheelron68]

@@Tijuanabill I'm afraid that's coming also

[@marcuslewis581]

I agree its coming! Vandy is one break up text away from hearing ITS NOT U IT'S ME.

[@briggsofdisaster]

@@Tijuanabill oh yeah! That’s probably coming soon as well. Conferences will be spending a ton of money paying each other off over the next year or two.

[@Number3boyz]

I understand why Texas and Oklahoma leaving the big twelve, but to the SEC? Neither one are gonna make it to the playoff again or conference championship again, good luck. 👍

[@Number3boyz]

@Carter Jones Georgia, LSU, Florida, Oklahoma gets beat down first round of the playoffs every year by an sec team. Do the math to have that completion mostly all year around. Don’t forget the one good team they will have to play out of conference. Odds against both them a lot. They lose to Kansas state every other year. Facts

[@Tijuanabill]

@@Number3boyz What on earth were you watching last year, to think Florida won that game? We beat them like they kissed our sister without asking. What game were you watching, that makes you think a triple overtime win by Georgia was a beat down? Can you share some of what you are smoking? I think it must be pretty good....

[@slightslice3120]

@@Number3boyz it’s much easier to beat a OU team when you have 3-4 weeks to prepare for them. When they get to the SEC and teams only have less than a week to prep, a bunch of defensive coordinators are gonna be having nightmares.

[@Number3boyz]

@@Tijuanabill make it out of the first round of the playoffs against a sec team, you had one good game and lost. You struggle against kanas state and Iowa State every year. How about that beat down by LSU two years ago and not even making it last year 😂. I don’t even smoke but state facts.

[@chrislb2308]

Amen 100% Josh.Tradition is gone.The college football that has been very popular will be over.This will be the NFL lite- basically a minor league.

[@chipplylar1622]

Okla and Texas going to the.SEC makes as much sense as shing in a swimming pool.

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I hope your neighbors know this before swimming in your pool.