TF2's "Cheating Standard" has hit a new low...

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jbird

jbird

Жыл бұрын

You don't even have to try anymore.
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@jbirdTF
@jbirdTF Жыл бұрын
I pride myself on not truly "farming" hackusations when I play, as I don't think good snipers baiting an already paranoid community is healthy. But OGDDAMN you really don't have to try anymore to get called a cheater! Hope y'all enjoy, lots more coming. Check out the STREAM and socials, all linked in the description
@bigbob5103
@bigbob5103 Жыл бұрын
It seriously annoys me and makes me not want to play. Getting voted off and people calling me a cheater. Like “down bro sorry I could click on your head fast than you could do anything” idk what to tell them
@solforecast2101
@solforecast2101 Жыл бұрын
@@bigbob5103 Unfortunately even though it's literally still their skill issue.. But these folks are literally trained to just call off any snipers. Bot/Hack or not. Cause if they are booted off, they would get to actually play the game without being overwhelmed by snipers in general. Kinda the same reason why hacking scouts almost never get kicked at all compared to good snipers. You *can* actually kill the former somewhat.
@davidmacdonald1855
@davidmacdonald1855 Жыл бұрын
I feel Valve is to blame. By letting the bots run wild and having an outdated anticheat they have forced the community to be the judge, jury and executioner to deal with things. Fact is the majority of people have no clue who is cheating and are just guessing.
@nathangamble125
@nathangamble125 Жыл бұрын
I'm not surprised, but I don't think it's changed much through TF2's history. I've been accused of hacking before as sniper a couple of times a few years ago, and I'm not even good.
@sO_RoNerY
@sO_RoNerY Жыл бұрын
You means accusations :)?
@TheDemonroll
@TheDemonroll Жыл бұрын
i wish that someday tf2 will have killcams at least on quickplay so that people don't go apeshit when i hit 3 headshots in a row
@ADUSN
@ADUSN Жыл бұрын
I've been playing since 2010, and the vast majority of the time I've seen great snipers they were sus. Add the bot problem and can you really blame people?
@TheDemonroll
@TheDemonroll Жыл бұрын
@@ADUSN I know, but you can be a god scout and people are mostly ok, but when you are somewhat having a good run with sniper the vote calls come in
@percher4824
@percher4824 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDemonroll Can confirm that you don't even need to be good at sniper. You just need to be average and you'll get a hackusation eventually.
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 Жыл бұрын
@@percher4824 one time some guy toggled actual sniper hacks to kill me, like not only did he start hitting more and tracking through walls, but he headshot every shot. Literally played better than the best in an australian casual server.
@winged777
@winged777 10 ай бұрын
​@@TheDemonrollbecause an average player has more of a chance against a good scout than a good sniper, regardless of whether the sniper is cheating it's just an OP class
@jester3590
@jester3590 Жыл бұрын
The "They're cheating" has just become an excuse for people who don't like getting sniped and to get the sniper that killed them out of the server. It's why in some servers, when there is an actual cheater, the team the cheater is on won't do anything about it, because they think the accuser is just being angry they were sniped
@winged777
@winged777 10 ай бұрын
The solution is just kicking either way
@Ravetar101
@Ravetar101 Жыл бұрын
guy with 30,000 hours bullies kids with 30 hours
@flaK_LG420
@flaK_LG420 Жыл бұрын
4th grader vs 2nd grader type beat
@d4nny912
@d4nny912 Жыл бұрын
as someone who sucks at sniper but still gets called a cheater pre often i can't imagine how often people think ur cheating if they dont recognize u
@Casual_PKBeats
@Casual_PKBeats Жыл бұрын
To be fair you were going pretty nutty on that Landfall match LOL Crazy how quick people are on the hackusation trigger. You're way too good
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 Жыл бұрын
mate someone toggled crithacks, esp, literally every cheat to kill me, a medic, as sniper. His team kicked him before i got suspicious. Turns out that he was a cheater impersonating a popular streamer - FIVE VAC BANS ON RECORD, ALL TF2. yeah i think he should just be banned from valve matchmaking altogether
@MrDreamblader
@MrDreamblader Жыл бұрын
One Vac ban should make the account unable to connect to any online game
@simplysmiley4670
@simplysmiley4670 Жыл бұрын
I think people just forget that some people put ungodly amounts of time into getting good at a class. _At this point I would bet even devs never thought someone would be this good at sniper._
@CorneliusCornbread
@CorneliusCornbread Жыл бұрын
The devs never expected players to spend that much time to achieve that level of skill. And it's reflected in how completely broken quick scoping as sniper is
@Jokervision744
@Jokervision744 Жыл бұрын
​@@CorneliusCornbread the question is gun vs. pen, so of course they knew. It's how the maps play that decide the sniper's value. Like every other class' value.
@bobth6095
@bobth6095 Жыл бұрын
@@CorneliusCornbread yeah, they specifically said that they did not consider balancing with people putting in thousands of hours on a class
@NikolasoGames
@NikolasoGames Жыл бұрын
What an accusation. Sniper is already fine as is.
@somepuppetdude8314
@somepuppetdude8314 Жыл бұрын
to be fair, every non sniper mains hate sniper mains with a PASSION
@kvykimo
@kvykimo Жыл бұрын
the game is infested with tons of closet cheaters in both community and casual servers so im not even surprised by this
@rvgr_clips
@rvgr_clips Жыл бұрын
yeah I was going to comment something similar, so many experienced closet cheaters are so good at hiding it sometimes it can be hard to differentiate from an actual skilled sniper player.
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625
@greenoftreeblackofblue6625 Жыл бұрын
When I used to get mad I used to say cheater In the chat but now am grown and straight up just say "I'm Mad" In The chat and I am mad when I say it.
@nvvv_
@nvvv_ Жыл бұрын
Brave and Bold.
@MOOtf2
@MOOtf2 Жыл бұрын
I hadn’t played the game for 3-4 months, first game back I got a single trickstab on their top pyro and got called interp abuser/cheater. This game never changes 8)
@THEREALBLU13
@THEREALBLU13 Жыл бұрын
Love the players that will sit perfectly still or walk/fall in a straight line, get headshot and then complain
@brewiron2342
@brewiron2342 Жыл бұрын
Well to fair, if you have to look at the big picture. We have a new generation of gamers joining tf2. They aren't going to be nearly as good as the OG-Veteran players of TF2, so they are going to be struggling. When a great sniper main like you joins the server, it makes it quite difficult for anybody to really breathe around you without being instantly headshot and killed. Now keep in mind these are (mostly) young kids to teenagers(who are going through puberty most likely so they are moody as hell). The young kids will hackusate more likely than not due to anger, and the teenagers are going to rage and hackusate due of all the mood swings of growing up(or just leave the game). Not to mention they might have also waited a while for casual to load. Not hating no you or anything, just stating the opposite POV.
@brewiron2342
@brewiron2342 Жыл бұрын
Also to add, the bot problems make it slightly worse, and sniper IMO is the most cheated on class due to headshots.
@mattfrikindies565
@mattfrikindies565 Жыл бұрын
As a teen with no mood swings BECAUSE of Fortress Team 2nd, I can confirm that this PoV is Accurate
@AnhadKashyap-nx6no
@AnhadKashyap-nx6no Жыл бұрын
use the machina so they see all the shots you miss
@jaredmckano
@jaredmckano Жыл бұрын
I got a hackusation once as a Huntsman Sniper from a cloaked Spy when I was aiming at a Soldier
@mattfrikindies565
@mattfrikindies565 Жыл бұрын
As a huntsman with the luck of a 1937 Looney Tunes character, I can agree that this has happened
@mrhat1073
@mrhat1073 Жыл бұрын
i'm just gonna use this video to vent about _that_ kind of sniper player. first of all, jbird is not _that_ kind of sniper. if you find yourself in a match with jbird or other snipers like him, it might be annoying to deal with, but the game does not revolve around them. however when _that_ sniper joins the match the server will completely orbit around him. they alone determine the outcome of a match, not you, your team, or the enemy team. what usually follows is half the server leaves after one match, because no one wants to put up with him. the moral of the story? jbird gets nutty shots, but is legit. _that_ sniper is identified by an inhuman level of consistency and often times skirts the line of scripts and cheats. use some critical thinking skills to determine if they're sus or not.
@kyo666oyk
@kyo666oyk Жыл бұрын
It's rough for newer players. When a decent amount of the snipers (in casual) that hit a lot of headshots are bots/cheaters they kinda get trained to think that lots of headshots probably means cheats. It really takes quite a bit of time played to tell the difference between a closet cheater who understands their cheats and a good sniper. Like that one person even thought he got shot through a wall (which of course isn't a thing in TF2). Then the people who falsely call cheats on purpose to get rid of a sniper that is annoying them confuse the matter further. It's a mess. lol
@justarandomdood
@justarandomdood Жыл бұрын
Holy moly these are some old clips Who's that handsome devil resubbing x10 at the 1:43 mark lol
@frosttf215
@frosttf215 Жыл бұрын
Gamers when a sniper hits a completely reasonable shot on them
@Bagplants
@Bagplants Жыл бұрын
2:25 that was the quickest dosing of karma i think i've ever witnessed
@TheValkosuklaa
@TheValkosuklaa Жыл бұрын
As someone who likes playing medic and heavy, I’m pretty close to start accusing every sniper main as cheaters too 🤯
@cewla3348
@cewla3348 Жыл бұрын
as a medic MAIN, when I get headshot im like "damn. forgot to not stay next to my heal target. also, he good so respect sightlines." some medic mains tho, they get headshot while standing still on a cap and are like "HOW????"
@NikolasoGames
@NikolasoGames Жыл бұрын
@@cewla3348 Same, basically put, I don't give a shit If I get headshot, it's a living match, you WILL see eventually when someone is cheating if they actually are cheating. People should have more patience and just general chillness. It's not life or death
@chalkeYT
@chalkeYT Жыл бұрын
While I do enjoy a good hackusation, I got kicked from 3 different games back to back the other day because server population was low and I kept running into the same dude...
@NikolasoGames
@NikolasoGames Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that sucks.
@camperimortal
@camperimortal Жыл бұрын
jbird the type of dude that really shows you what is a domination
@black_frost16
@black_frost16 Жыл бұрын
I’ve hit some pretty nutty air shots and quick scopes and I’m not even that good at sniper and I haven’t been called a cheater, but when I headshot someone that runs at me in a straight line, I’m a cheater? Makes no sense
@chispo167
@chispo167 Жыл бұрын
Hey jbird, do you have a video showing your settings and config? I wanted to try a new mouse sensitivity and zoom_sensitivity_ratio so i wanted to try yours. Nice video btw :)
@MaxickGX
@MaxickGX Жыл бұрын
Sniper mains have it tough since the bot stigma
@blueberrycoffee5736
@blueberrycoffee5736 Жыл бұрын
Funny story, yesterday I was top scoring as spy and I said something in chat, something like "holy crap louis I'm topscoring as spy" and then someone said "yeah cuz your cheating" (voice) when I was literally just backstabbin and sappin
@DerpyEinstein
@DerpyEinstein Жыл бұрын
I am left unsatisfied, wondering if the vote passed or failed.
@lizzly25
@lizzly25 Жыл бұрын
I think this is just more proof of how sniper's skill ceiling is extremely high, and reward is just as high. More so than any other class. A good sniper sitting out in the open can shut down the whole enemy team. It's gotta be addressed somehow, but Valve isn't doing anything, so the community has to pick up the slack. Hence why everyone is wary of cheating snipers. Quick to accuse and kick a good sniper. Cause you never know. The bot and cheating problem has made Sniper the #1 target for the community. So doing great with him is always bound to turn some heads.
@NikolasoGames
@NikolasoGames Жыл бұрын
Jbird has already addressed these himself and doesn't agree with most of these, also watch Zenith's video on sniper. Let sniper be, seriously.
@jalontf2
@jalontf2 Жыл бұрын
Can we get a jbird vs. Fatmagic collab??
@jisraelivantaboada5609
@jisraelivantaboada5609 Жыл бұрын
may ask how you play as sniper so good? because it doesn't have laggy right?
@duduzasso3596
@duduzasso3596 10 ай бұрын
this landfall match was poggers
@DoctorRose
@DoctorRose Жыл бұрын
With how paranoid TF2 players are nowadays, it makes it so fucking annoying to play. Like Christ on a crutch, not everyone's a damned bot. I'm so happy I'm taking a damn break from TF2.
@tntisbased
@tntisbased Жыл бұрын
Sniper haters when they move in a straight line and get headshot
@JrdnKritz
@JrdnKritz Жыл бұрын
when i encounter a suspicious sniper, i always go cloak and dagger + letranger spy and go behind that said sniper. If the sniper doesnt shoot my head in a blink of an eye when im cloaking then that sniper is legit, if he does then that sniper is cheating. Trust me, you cannot believe how much that method of cheat detection saves legit snipers from being kicked and confirms someone whos actually cheating.
@Alex.Creations
@Alex.Creations Жыл бұрын
Me too, I also use the cloak and dagger standing somewhere that I wouldn't be caught in the cross hairs
@timewalktf2
@timewalktf2 Жыл бұрын
He is video gaming. PS: These shots are nutty
@SolarSocks
@SolarSocks Жыл бұрын
“i think their sniper accidentally picked casual instead of competitive” as if valve comp is actually playable lmao. ggs
@phantom1051
@phantom1051 Жыл бұрын
I've got several friends who are really good at sniper and I swear its like every third server, a hackusation.
@anders12114
@anders12114 Жыл бұрын
any tips for sniper?
@neonkapawn
@neonkapawn Жыл бұрын
Can't even be good at the game anymore without people accusing you
@Ataniphor
@Ataniphor Жыл бұрын
i mean I truly dont blame them. Hackers, cheaters, and bot are rampant on tf2. Had a match another night where one sniper on my team was obviously cheating and tracking enemies through the wall. Called it out and apparently half the team was in on it and I got vote kicked by the cheaters.
@xzw-
@xzw- 3 ай бұрын
to the joker... crazy shots are just normal shots...
@NamedKid10
@NamedKid10 8 ай бұрын
I remember I got accused of cheating with the classic lol, I noscope headshot him upclose
@3ndm3
@3ndm3 Жыл бұрын
You dont have ragdolls... You monster
@chillalldaylongisthekey7316
@chillalldaylongisthekey7316 Жыл бұрын
Jbird the goat
@MRswipez1
@MRswipez1 Жыл бұрын
just 2 good bro
@krissasterisk
@krissasterisk Ай бұрын
song name at 1:48?
@alanwiseman3235
@alanwiseman3235 Жыл бұрын
bap! engi-neer... is engi-here
@Optive
@Optive Жыл бұрын
Get yourself a woman who is okay with you doing a lil run and making gremlin noises
@spoicyfish
@spoicyfish Жыл бұрын
Saucin on them
@ampstamp
@ampstamp Жыл бұрын
Dude, you're nutty what the hell
@SupaThePotato
@SupaThePotato 9 ай бұрын
dude im a pretty new sniper, im not good at all at sniping, most of the times i rely on good days to play well and there was this one time where i hit 1 singular quickscope on a scout and he swore i was cheating for the whole match
@anders12114
@anders12114 Жыл бұрын
yea ppl are relly fast to call others for hackers this days also in other games
@SuperGoomba4853
@SuperGoomba4853 11 ай бұрын
Dude I feel so bad for you. Being accused of being a cheater is ridiculous but also pretty funny.
@JohnDoe-pn6qx
@JohnDoe-pn6qx Жыл бұрын
Being a good player looks like a curse
@Lachrymogenic
@Lachrymogenic Жыл бұрын
We're too used to the bots now that we'll call bs on literally anyone in Casual. There are two types of players then, the Community Server players and the Casual Players. You get a choice between solid gameplay and free speech, its like the Wild West out in Casual Pubs. But god, I should get a 120hz monitor.
@angiovanni7356
@angiovanni7356 Жыл бұрын
Mfs when they walk STRAIGHT into a sniper and get headshot: hEs ChEaTiNg GuYs!1!!!1!
@nolle
@nolle Жыл бұрын
Love the vids but if I can be pedantic; I think it would look better if you put a zoom on the chat in the screen instead of zooming/panning the entire video back and forth.
@GGE1776
@GGE1776 9 ай бұрын
i got accused of using walls because i was chasing a spy into 2fort sewers and checked that one corner next to the stairs, which is where he ended up being. this community is way too paranoid about cheaters, i understand why but bro come on, just because you got killed by someone doesnt mean he's cheating
@user-nf3rz8uc8w
@user-nf3rz8uc8w Жыл бұрын
It's 2023 and people are still being accused of shooting through walls.
@WAtheAnum
@WAtheAnum Жыл бұрын
this video shows only how paranoid the community got at this point. it has nothing to do anymore with "hes cheating" but more with "if hes good he has to be cheating". Srsly.
@antikytheracookie619
@antikytheracookie619 Жыл бұрын
i mean you do main an overpowered class (statically has the highest dps)
@Deadmeatsz
@Deadmeatsz Жыл бұрын
sad part is that in one of the pro leagues, 90% of sniper mains were cheating apparently.
@crustybote8987
@crustybote8987 Жыл бұрын
hello jbird!
@gravyarts
@gravyarts Жыл бұрын
This is why you don't challenge THE (canonical) **TF2** Sniper,
@NamedKid10
@NamedKid10 8 ай бұрын
Do people not know that it's literally impossible to shoot through walls? Even with cheats, you can't do it.
@dustykh
@dustykh Жыл бұрын
People don't even check steam profiles before making the wildest accusations imaginable. Could be worse though, you could be playing CoD:MWII.
@cindrblok7948
@cindrblok7948 Жыл бұрын
playing sniper is evidence enough to kick. sniper ruins the game for everyone except other snipers.
@HenryEmilyIsHapi
@HenryEmilyIsHapi Жыл бұрын
He is an intended character in the game and belongs in a game. Just because you walk STRAIGHT into his sightline everytime does not mean he is a pain to play against.
@cindrblok7948
@cindrblok7948 Жыл бұрын
@@HenryEmilyIsHapi then why do the devs constantly say if they could remove a character it would sniper 10 times out of 10? he wasnt made with 10k hours in mind.
@waterfallsreal
@waterfallsreal Жыл бұрын
I find it funny how most of the people who accuse snipers of cheating, are the ones who stand still.
@percher4824
@percher4824 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you really don't need to do a lot get hackusations. I'm maybe average at best and even I get accused of cheating every now and then.
@n.2597
@n.2597 Жыл бұрын
This just shows the general intelligence of tf2 players. I’m not that good at sniper and have been called a cheater twice by either f2ps or salty smucks that get mad at anything. Good vid though
@Syvana00
@Syvana00 10 ай бұрын
I mean to be fair, with how good you are compared to 95% of the player base you may as well be hacking. What I saying is you are insanely good at this game
@demomangaming1134
@demomangaming1134 Жыл бұрын
Demoman gaming
@alekgold18
@alekgold18 Жыл бұрын
I would assume you're getting kicked because of your name since you never change it
@dr3b3n69
@dr3b3n69 Жыл бұрын
6969 Hours Nice !
@OTGT26
@OTGT26 Жыл бұрын
jbird hacker
@BlaseV2
@BlaseV2 Жыл бұрын
The accusations are fair now more than ever because tf2 anticheat basically has sucked in the last few years with some cheaters never getting banned. This means they can just play with cheats and never get banned which means there’s going to be a good player getting accused once in a while.
@unlimited2023
@unlimited2023 Жыл бұрын
You get called for cheating on literally anything. I hit a cleaver on a scout like 4 times in seperate confrontations, won the fight and he says "yeah not legit in the slightest..." my brother I was 7 and 5. I also treasue the hackusations because I am half decent at best.
@KephTwentySix
@KephTwentySix Жыл бұрын
ok cheater
@Gandalf-The-Gay
@Gandalf-The-Gay Жыл бұрын
Cheating is gay.
@angelicstrider667
@angelicstrider667 Жыл бұрын
Gamer!!!!
@Ice-wu8qq
@Ice-wu8qq Жыл бұрын
aradia gaming
@freakco1388
@freakco1388 Жыл бұрын
It’s been so long since I’ve played tf2 I wish I had a good computer to relive my younger years and have fun like I used to
@alexandremartin1165
@alexandremartin1165 Жыл бұрын
Dude you obviously using trigger bot sad af
@lordcole5138
@lordcole5138 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny cause you use your actual in game name as well so you would at least have some people recognize you. Nope.
@ran631
@ran631 Жыл бұрын
Recently i played 6 games in a row pretty much rage cheating. Never got kicked. The day after that i played a little bit legit and immediately (almost) got kicked because i apparently was shooting through walls which you cant even fucking do with cheats.
@Baron._
@Baron._ Жыл бұрын
this is all fatmagics fault
@ZanyStrom
@ZanyStrom Жыл бұрын
why?
@chillzerep341
@chillzerep341 Жыл бұрын
@jadenmudge
@jadenmudge Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I would think you were cheating as well.
@taylorvenne3093
@taylorvenne3093 Жыл бұрын
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