TF2's Lost Teased Weapons

Sometimes Valve puts a lot of work into things they never release. Let's talk about some TF2 Lost Media.
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[@WolfDB]

The Stratatonic Swatter seems like it would've been either a reskin of the Disciplinary Action or it would've been the Nostro Napalmer several years earlier and would've done extra damage to any Engineer wearing the full fly cosmetic set, possibly both. As for the Afterburner, I feel like that would've sacrificed damage from normal flames, but deals extra afterburn damage or possibly makes the afterburn last longer

[@RolandTheJabberwocky]

Your swatter guess is dead on the same as mine, displinary but instas fly engies. I always imagined the afterburner having a special airblast, maybe one that lights foes on fire too? Would have been a cool combo weapon for trick shots if it did.

[@TF2ConscientiousObjector]

Ye

[@2lazy792]

I think the for swatter you would hit someone and then kinda like fire it would do 2 extra hits kinda like getting zapped:p

[@Encucumbered]

the afterburner would be awful, I hate being on fire

[@Eg0n97]

And when it killed the target mightve disintegrated like when they die to a mangler or bison

[@Palozon]

A flamethrower that pulls you forward instead of pushing stuff away could be funny.

[@sylph4252]

Pyro yeeting themselves into enemy lines with a simple rightclick seems like a very questionable addition

[@Palozon]

@@sylph4252 with a backburner-esque alt click cost, the fact that in many situations that alt click would be a suicide button, and the fact it isn't a true airblast I would want to see it playtested before dismissing it outright.

[@captainosu2094]

didnt valve once say they experimtned with a flamethrower that pulled you in instead of pushing you away and it caused a lot of lag due to how the game is coded?

[@noti7510]

instead of reflecting rockets, dodge them dark souls style. actually seems like it would be an alright patch for the problem people have with airblast that you just can't use projectiles with a pyro about. other than than though it would have to be quite carefully tuned. valve isn't big on adding big mobility boosts without major drawbacks. I imagine this sort of concept would complement pyro very well as they stuggle to close gaps & it would perfect the ambush style of pyros, a dash of mobility is what pyro needs to get the jump on people. it would probably have perfect synergy with the axtinguisher, to help you get in melee distance & then you can get the speed boost from a kill. that sort of 'pyroknight' chaining capability could be really fun. I was gonna say that the problem is that it's niche is already filled a small by but varied selection of pyro mobility tools like the detonator & such, but there's nothing for the flamethrower slot, & I had in mind a different idea for it's type of mobility. instead of burst mobility like most tf2 movement options, it could be a slow thrust. possibly quite movement-locked/reduced airstrafing. gotta be careful with giving a class too much mobility or making it too good against stock & such. you could get just enough thrust to get up on doorframes or across larger gaps for ambush or escape. but then that just sounds like less skilled detonator. in the end I guess I don't know how I feel about this concept. it would have to differentiate itself from det & thermal thruster, & not be op. it would be a particularly fine line to walk with this weapon. good food for thought anyway

[@Slevon8]

Sigh, I miss TF2 updates

[@fujiwaranonekobiodrando1257]

last major update is years ago 😢

[@thisthatthenutz2990]

Don't you 2024 complain already, its 2034 here and we have no update so we're waiting patiently.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Some of the most recent weapons (jungle inferno) changes were hyper ligma. I'm content with most of the current weapons.

[@theweirdwolf1877]

@@diegodankquixote-wry3242W-whats ligma? 😳😳😣😣😨😰

[@kumquatweekend]

Sigh me too

[@llmkursk8254]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Valve experimented with airblast jumping and the Afterburner

[@lukecodz]

the best unreleased weapon ive seen was that spy explosive backstab one, basically putting remote bombs onto people instead of insta killing them as spy would be a game changer

[@Roebloz]

Killer Queen has already touched that Scout

[@KeWDu]

Damn… I thought I came up with this idea like last year all on my own. Was so proud of it. Do you know what it was called?

[@lukecodz]

idk what it was called but i remember it looking like a complete contraption​@@KeWDu

[@Thomas90012]

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[@PlagueTheSmol]

​@@Thomas90012You're not any funnier, human equivalent of a migraine

[@kahonk269]

The afterburner looks like it has a jet underneath it, so maybe it was a mobility item? And the name makes me think it specializes in afterburn, so maybe it was a hit-and-run/combo weapon?

[@trickstab7903]

Possibly could've been the prototype in a way for what eventually became the thermal thruster

[@Sniper_TF2_REAL]

Or a longer range, less damage tool

[@555Soupy555]

remember, lots of weps have physical features completely different to their designs, names are better to go off for effects

[@toastgoats7545]

Maybe it had a similar idea to the dragons fury and they just went with that instead?

[@dragonlord7987]

Maybe a flame thrower that prioritises airblasts over filames

[@riffwizardsupreme]

i imagine the swatter being a soldier shark item while the afterburner looks like the reserve shooter of flamethrowers

[@Pootisbird.]

Ok The after burner looks sick af

[@DETERMINATION355]

My guess for the afterburner is it either left a longer afterburn for less immediate dmg or you could extenguish enemies (with the giant fan) for some hp and damage

[@friendlyhoovy4506]

I think the afterburner would either have an extended burn time or a much higher pushback while air-blasting

[@lukiland_ES]

maybe a cheaper airblast or a further reach?

[@SquibbyJ]

The afterburner, as can be guessed from the name, would do high single target burst damage with criticals on wet targets

[@mr.invisible1873]

Shame the afterburner didn't come true, that gun looked Siiiick!

[@SpinosaurusStudios_]

Dont forget the unused syringe gun medic primary found in photoshop

[@scootaloodash1351]

I think I saw that flame thrower on one of community weapons servers

[@timmy6890]

Afterburner would make airplane lovers play pyro more

[@ModderOfGames]

fly swatter probably would've been a reskin, maybe of the disciplinary action afterburner just seems like it would've extended afterburn

[@reversed9757]

The Afterburner looks so sick, wouldve loved to see it ingame

[@Chaplinandlock7462]

Actually, apparently there was a rumor at valve headquarters on what the swatter would’ve done and it would’ve burned the enemy upon hit but it’s based damage would’ve been reduced, and it would have a slower swing rate

[@bakedbuninvasion]

Swatter is a stock or whip resin, afterburner would have been - damage, +afterburn, alt fire increases speed at the cost of ammo and pulls projectiles towards you inside the airblast hitbox.

[@Norville_-Shaggy-_Rogers--]

I feel the fly swatter would be similar to the disciplinary action and the afterburner would do less damage from the straight fire but the afterburn damage would be buffed dealing more damage and lingering for longer

[@pumpkingpie2938]

There's one in the bundle image for the Medic's weapons.

[@dartimes6048]

It’s a sniper primary, much like the Sydney sleeper I think it is supposed to heal allies you shoot at the cost of no damage to enemies. It’s healing is increased the longer it is charged. Before you say “Oh it’s pretty broken that’s why it wasn’t added.” Its perfectly balanced because of snipers risk of being counter sniped and being unable to counter snipe and hitting teammates is really hard (Hitting teammates on fire with the Sydney sleeper is really hard to pull off).

[@dartimes6048]

It’s the supportive subclass sniper has with Jarate and the Sydney sleeper.

[@quorthonsinferno5119]

The afterburners connection with jet feul and its visual turbine leads me to believe it would have had longer after burn and a longer push from the airblast

[@derpynoob740]

I think the afterburner would make the flames go farther, make after burn last longer, but do pitiful damage for both normal and afterburn damage

[@Dedelblute3]

I’d love if there was a pyro unlock specifically designed around airblasts. Every single unlock sacrifices airblast for something else, it’s about time for an unlock for airblasting.

[@wasntwas]

As somebody who enjoys pyro, the afterburner sounds like i would get doxxed for using it.

[@geonsilberlicht4632]

Fly swatter: Less melee damage, crit airborne targets (explosive propelled) or alternatively mini-crit all airborne targets. Afterburner: Less damage, continuous-fire version of airblast, can fire and airblast simultaneously, longer range while airblasting (holding both mouse 1 and 2 would basically be a 1,5 -2 times range less damaging flamethrower that burns through ammunition very quickly), projectiles affected by the acceleration of the airstream don't deal minicrits and switch to a neutral team (still dangerous to your team, but if you manage to deflect towards enemy, he'll take damage as well) as a result and don't just instantaneously change course, so you could still deflect them. If that's not already too much, it could have a fiercer afterburn of 6 damage instead of 4, but the airstream removes (only this) afterburn from opponents.

[@RemLasher77]

In Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed, it’s not just the Pyro but the Spy(for the Air sections)and the Heavy(for Water sections)as well.

[@mad_goose4935]

I feel like the afterburner would be a pyro weapon that definitely embraces his airblast mechanic

[@theotherjared9824]

That fly swatter likely would have briefly stunned opponents, allowing soldier to switch to the direct hit or the beggar's bazooka for a guaranteed kill.

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Considering the afterburner looks like a jet, maybe you could airblast jump and pogo like some community servers allow you to do at some penalty. Afterburners are part of a jets engine after all. Airblast jumps dont combo well with the giga-chad thermal thruster at atleast with the plug in im fimilar with

[@JustSven-st6lg]

Afterburner: +25% afterburn duration (of course -50% air blast cost (because of that engine looking thing on it -10% damage (to make it not a direct upgrade, it’s more air blast focused anyways) Air blast applies a kickback affect on the user when in the air (like the force a nature)

[@idk_lizord]

Dont forget the unrealesed syringe gun hiding in the medic pack art

[@d00gz_]

The Afterburner is way too cool of a design for a flamethrower not to use. Hell I’d even settle for it just being a reskin

[@projectionistgaming3701]

The fly swatter was likely going to be a loadout-specific mechanic similar to how a certain Pyro loadout can do... Something, I don't quite remember vs Xenomorph Scouts, but to the fly Engineer, and the Afterburner is likely self-explanatory.

[@Pugparker]

Fly seater could have been market Gardner reskin or early design

[@BeyondBaito]

Also in the "Uber Update" bundle on the Mann Co store you can see in the bundle is an unused Medic Primary.

[@jayzeo4767]

I would like to suggest a general concept for the afterburner Instead of a regular one shot airblast, it acts like a leafe blower that can push back enemies and reflect projectiles. It doesn't push players as intensely as a regular airblast. I just thought that would be cool given the big turbine

[@greggersonny]

i feel like the little fan turbine under the afterburner could replace the airblast and have special abilities Turbine - Drains 10 ammo/second while active. - Blows flames forward for a longer range, resulting in -35% damage and +30% particle speed. - Extended flames have a 35% longer afterburn duration - Turbine replaces airblast. - Turbine cannot reflect projectiles or push away opponents. - 15 HP Healed when extinguishing team members.

[@rexunlovable]

that flyswatter should full-crit airborn targets. fuck that'd be a fun combo. knock em up, swat em down.

[@zachredd845]

Can't wait for the Final Update when TF2's official final Comic releases

[@jokerofspades-xt3bs]

i like to imagine the afterburner was mean't to be a more ammo conserving playstyle like afterburn lasting longer and doing more damage and airblast being cheaper but the downsides could've been a slight mobility loss and maybe also less fire damage

[@purrplexingkat3741]

I'm gonna say the swatter was maybe a disciplinary action reskin or maybe someone like the neon annihilator that did more damage in water And for the after burner it's probably a weapon focused around the air blast judging by the jet engine so I'm gonna say it had a nuts air blast and maybe even some air blast secondary effects like maybe applying burn to a airblasted target. Or it could be like a special helium flame thrower, if you watch muselk he made a video about nodded tf2 weapons showing off a flamethrower that lets you fly by shooting fire at the ground so maybe the after burner would've been something similar

[@colestrawn4304]

My guess on the afterburner is that is probably only had air blast but set enemy's on fire in the process.

[@undeadreborn4867]

for the swater it probably would have been just like the alien flamethrower pyro has, basically it'd do extra damage to engines wearing the fly costume and mabey have an electric effect (mabey a speed bost like the disciplinary or it could disable buildings for a short time.) for the flamethrower, it could have either been an invers of the Phlogistinator, can't shoot fire but can rapidly airblast or as anouther comment said it could have been a reverse airblast that pulled someone in instead of pushing them away.

[@Benito675]

Afterburner: -90% damage penalty -no random critical hits +80% backburning damage +30% backburn speed

[@kristi-plays]

I feel like the after burner would keep the enemies on fire for a longer duration at the cost of lower damage and possibly a lower amount of ammo (trying to balance stuff is not my forte) which would make it really work well with the axestiguisher with the guaranteed mini-crits on people that are on fire The Swatter would probably have it so it causes a slow down on the enemy when hit at the cost of swing speed and a small bit of damage, making it easier to kill someone when they try to run

[@Shad0w-One]

The afterburner seems like it can airblast and flamethrow at the same time, or at least be more focused on airblasting, which is a flamethrower i wish existed

[@Zavemann]

The afterburner has a JET ENGINE on it, makes me think you get a movement speed bonus while firing

[@ApertureEmplojee]

I am 100% confident the afterburner would focus in air blasting making that it's primary purpose and as the name says, burns you after air blasting as well, I think they didn't add it cause it would be extremely annoying and powerful, so much that pyro would become even more of a problem.

[@cakesparkle671]

Fly swatter would have probably worked as some kind of combo item for soldier, smack someone to stun them then shotgun them down. Afterburner probably gave you some kind of speed boost for having someone having afterburn, maybe? Both cut since they probably realized both of these would be awful to play against.

[@squidy968]

I think the afterburner would’ve worked like this: -no airblast -reduced damage +jet thrust with M2 +longer afterburn

[@VerdeMorte]

Afterburner would have had a reverse airblast, with more base damage over a much lesser afterburn time, and the swatter would stun while maintaining momentum, immediately dropping scouts & all other characters midair. (Characters that walk or fall off ledges or cliffs, dying from fall damage within 5 seconds after being swatted, will have a special death icon. Swatter damage deaths will vaporize body...)

[@jewishfish3398]

The afterburner seems self-explanatory (to me atleast, could be wrong), would probably have less direct damage traded off for higher afterburn damage and maybe stronger/less ammo consuming airblast judging from the engine underneath. Assuming those things, that demon spawn can stay unreleased.

[@Dipshit1900]

The afterburner seems like the flame would be straight when it was fired, like a jet engine and like another comment says, adding mobility with it

[@Palpalsupport]

disregarding the name the afterburner looks like it would spit out the flames a good chunk farther then the other primary's but at a lack of damage making it force to deal with in longer ranged maps where they would normally struggle

[@gamerandfurry3947]

I think the swatter would have a slower swing speed and much less base damage, but do guaranteed crits on airborne and wet enemies.

[@ukkisragee9983]

Huh... I sure do wonder what the AFTERBURNER could have possibly done? What a mystery!

[@cosmicdunsparce]

I'd love to be a Flyswatter Troldier

[@ilovedogs5479]

I think the after burner would have the afterburn effect last longer. And possibly reduce fall damage with that jet engine.

[@Insanity_Bringer]

For the fly swatter, more damage but speeds up enemies walkspeed For Afterburner, less main damage but more afterburn time and damage

[@Tyrnak_Fenrir]

Jungle Inferno was 7 years ago? Fuck Im getting old

[@GenuineGuitar56]

Me thinks the afterburner would either give more air blasts or make afterburn last longer at the offset of either less overall ammo or higher ammo consumption

[@Potpie_king]

The Swatter probably would've worked like a Neon Annihilator. It was probably scrapped for being too op.

[@rtxplumzz_24]

The Afterburner would have a 60 %increase in Ammo and Afterburn damage but does 60% less initial damage and Airblast will cost 150% More, essentially a Alternate Version of the Backburner

[@fox-milessavioroffoxes3782]

The Afterburner might have kept enemies on fire longer than other flamethrowers

[@HeavyTF2216]

Based off the name and the fact it looks like a jet engine, I would guess that the afterburner would probably make you do more afterburn damage at the cost of lower base damage or firing speed, and/or have cheaper or stronger airblasts.

[@noonecares1099]

I’ve always wanted a flamethrower that buffs the air blast instead of nerfing it, it does have a giant fan after all.

[@co8845]

i think itd be funny if the swatter was a reverse market gardener, doing more damage to enemies that air airborne

[@guimon78]

The Afterburner would pull a Za Hando and pull opponents closer, instead of pushing them away.

[@MinuHex]

Afterburner, I imagine was airblast related, though probably also had better afterburn.

[@rockowlgamer631]

My idea for the Afterburner would've been to give pyro a more airblast focused flamethrower. + 50% Cheaper airblast cost (from 20 to 10) + 20% faster airblast intrerval + Extinguishing teammates now gives 50 health instead of 25 -25% damage penalty -No airblast push force on enemy players. In exchange for better airblast it suffers from worse damage and not being able to prevent ubers at least not stock's anyway.

[@IntrigueAndWhimsy]

I think it could've been a reverse Market Gardener and a less damage/more afterburn weapon respectively. Sounds like fun!

[@_the_spy_8867]

Afterburner, considering it's name, was supposed to have either a very damaging or a very long afterburn duration, which is annoying(take Scorch Shot as an example). But as other suggest, i like Mobility idea. Though, personally I'd make my own idea for this weapon. Like, i has a jet, which are known to be very fast, but consuming lots of fuel. And like so, here's my stats(if anybody would read): +) Increased speed while firing the weapon by 20% +) Reflected Projectiles have increased flying speed by 30% +) Reflected explosives do less damage to self by 50% (for rocketjumping) -) Fuel consumption is increased by 65% -) Using airblast on burning enemies will extinguish them. -) Reflecting does no longer mini-crit. So, it has a potential for Mobility(Reflect Jumping), Airblast Pyros(basically Pyro mains) and for Friendly Pyros(extinguishing enemies). Maybe i should've made it in 2 separate weapons...

[@BurgerMongerer]

Afterburn seems to be a movement-based weapon for pyro that was dropped most likely because the jetpack was a better design

[@AzzyDrawz]

[AFTERBURNER] (Positive effects) +20% after-burn DMG +5% Airblast force (Negative effects) -10% ammo capacity No crits

[@Mark6O9]

There was also going to be a tri sniper rifle teased in the Jungle Inferno update website

[@SinfulCreature]

Pyro's Scythe melee weapon as seen in the 13/yo Free to Play announcement video

[@ifonlywehadacar]

It's like I can see the swatter but it's just out of sight...

[@mikethegoo]

Afterburner would probably do longer afterburn or make it do more damage. I think the first one. It looks like it would give speed or mobility too, but the afterburn would probably be the main intended benefit Also, maybe no random crits

[@Silly_Scary]

Based on the name, I think the afterburner would burn someone for a few seconds after they respawned (if they were killed by the pyro wielding the afterburner)

[@TheFiendJr]

I feel like the afterburner would have probably sucked in enemies making it so is harder for them to run away but you would have less fire damage.

[@stevienitro]

Stratatonic Swatter: -5% Swing Speed +20% Movement Speed when deployed -15% Slower Deployment Speed -30% Damage Penalty On Every Enemy Hit: gain +10% to your swing speed for 5 seconds. Max stack of 80%. Afterburner: +25% airblast firing speed -25% Bullet Spread +15% afterburn damage -10% Damage Penalty Airblasted Projectiles deal afterburn damage.

[@PhoenixDening-cz5wd]

These would make a good major update

[@Type_blazenil]

The afterburner: Reduced airblast cost Increased movement speed Increased afterburn time Decreased flame length Decrease damage No random crits This weapon can airblast teammates

[@Sovereign_exe]

i would say the afterburner would have a longer range/higher damage. it would act like the phlog's mmph reader. but with airblasting maybe.

[@kalekidsav]

A flyswatter releasing in the Halloween update? I see where re 8 modders got their inspiration

[@bellsolovetsky6039]

The sniper one ive seen in a community server but it was an item that i saw as forgot the guys name

[@el-yerba-buena9678]

Idk what would the fly swatter would have been but it will be funny if it had like 200% more knockback for each hit

[@lukaasadorian5824]

afterburner's model reminds me of the reserve shooter, so I'd assume it'd somehow synergize with that shotgun

[@commanderpauline2763]

the After Burner would probably focus more on the After Burn and a tighter cone of fire and do more knock back with the air blast but at the cost of more fuel like the Back Burner

[@demoman5864]

I’m glad the afterburner wasn’t added, afterburn is already the worst thing ever.

[@Nul1fy]

Well with a name like afterburner i feel as if the afterburn effects would be buffed and extended

[@georgevasilopoulos5359]

The afterburner looks lit

[@predator5775]

I'm just disappointed that the 2 possible grordbort sets were both scrapped completely.

[@R41ph3a7b6]

Damn, they should have added these.

[@gabrielboybalognapo2792]

I hope all of these will be added in Team fortress 2 classic.

[@brendontruong7127]

Gaben's relentless perfectionism is ruining TF2's longevity.

[@thatguykekai2601]

The afterburner would've obviously just been a reskin of the degreaser

[@GoodnightMoon666]

I think the afterburner would have a short jet that's intended for devastating melee encounters. As such, the weapons range would be heavily reduced and with no airblast would leave you vulnerable, but will make up for it with damage and perhaps a speed boost as well. +25% Damage +15% Movement Speed -66% Range -No Airblast

[@Qsie]

2011 was 13 years ago.