[TF2] The Persian Persuader: Infinite Charge, Infinite Fun

[@metaKnightSpamer777]

'If Valve could make the locations of these 'Charge packs' more consistent, Demoknight might see more competitive play' -Lazy Purple

[@Satherian]

*demoman laughing at sniper in the background*

[@TheRealBlazingDiamond]

Ahh, LazyPurple was awesome. Wonder what happened to him. Like, is he legit dead?

[@Satherian]

@@TheRealBlazingDiamond He's working on his Medic script. If you want more of him, he's been in a bunch of SaltyPhish's TF2 videos

[@TheRealBlazingDiamond]

@@Satherian still? It's been like 3 years

[@q6969]

​@TheRealBlazingDiamond well, it's not like any part of the script is in danger of being made obsolete, the game isn't changing, he doesn't need to rush.

[@SolarLight]

This sword technically does the most consistent damage out of any sword. Genuinely a great weapon. Sure beats trying to pair the Skullcutter with Boots on a server with no random crits.

[@punishedwhirligig3353]

i wonder who this man could be surely not an expert demoknight main

[@-RandomStranger-]

Be quiet, *loser* ‼️‼️‼️‼️I bet you have never played demoknight‼️‼️‼️I'm going to play demoknight with the skullcutter on uncletopia servers 😤😤😤

[@-RandomStranger-]

Who is this newbie thinking he is⁉️‼️❓️‼️⁉️❗️😤😤😤

[@-RandomStranger-]

I bet you never played demoknight, *loser* ‼️‼️‼️‼️ You probably die to sentries everytime you play and don't know skullcutter demo in uncletopia servers is meta 😡😡😡

[@KKST.]

Bottom lane seller

[@davidhong1934]

Certainly a persuasive argument

[@fun-epersonnproductions4002]

Id keep an eye on your kneecaps tonight.

[@gustthestupidnoob2393]

Better Sleep with one eye open tonight.

[@tripleAAAbattery.]

You best be looking at your closet at all times tonight boy

[@theflyingwelshman5338]

I’m not quite persuaded.

[@queasc0220]

The persians are coming for you tonight boy

[@ketra1504]

reaction to a normal hybrid knight: "Oh shit that demo has a sword" reaction to a persian persuader hybrid knight: "Oh shit that demoknight has a grenade launcher"

[@lambsauce5312]

If you see a demo with a shield and don't expect a sharp object they're probably running tide turner+loose cannon

[@user-gn3ys7lu4efdskyjxjIHcb]

@@lambsauce5312 huh i always run persian tide and the loch and load instead of cannon

[@Totasfunnynumber]

Ammo Junkie

[@TheGhostThatWas]

As much as Fish hates to admit it, this might be the closest weapon analysis video to "Good Weapon Academy" that we've gotten

[@khodas1030]

Persians are persuading me help

[@gabespiro8902]

Azerbaijan converting to Shia Islam be like

[@JeremyBaconThe1st]

I'm gonna team up with the Spartans

[@usernametaken017]

- Greeks

[@whatdayit]

Fun fact about the eyelander, you can keep the heads after switching loadouts simple by turning off the advanced setting of “respawn on loadout change” so not only do you get the benefits of full head eyelander you also get fucking sticky bombs, 205 health, and the speed of scout almost. It is fucking absurd

[@rhyperiorhunter7339]

yeah they should probably patch that out as that's really stupid

[@usernametaken017]

ok but thats funny so it balances out i think

[@jouheikisaragi6075]

Demoknight has promoted to DemoKing

[@MeesterTweester]

Equip this with the B.A.S.E. Jumper and Scottish Resistance for a truly useless loadout

[@khodas1030]

Equip it with TheWhat?

[@Obamno1]

that was actually the best tf2 joke i've ever heard@@khodas1030

[@lonelyshpee7873]

It's not useless because you still have the Scottish Resistance. Stay near dispensers/ammo and play entirely defensive and you still have a perfectly usable loadout. And the Scottish Resistance also has extra ammo anyway, so it makes things a little less bad.

[@vitaliitomas8121]

Aren't Jumper and SR both secondaries?

[@lonelyshpee7873]

@@vitaliitomas8121 jumper is a primary for demo and a secondary for soldier

[@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149]

13:51 _Spycrab conservation accomplished_ Mission passed + Respect

[@Cyber930]

There is one major drawback. You cannot "cheers mate" with this sword. And that's why the bottle is still the best weapon in the game. Edit: ayo, guys. You know what? *Bottle reskins in tf2 have always seemed like a strange case to me*

[@mewmew8932]

you can steal people heads' tho, so it balances out

[@Cyber930]

@@mewmew8932 but...but....

[@icetide9411]

Counterargument, the Pan lets you cheers mate and drink metal, it's much funnier

[@maxhadanidea]

@@icetide9411 the necro smasher gets an honorable mention for it's similar ability of letting you drink wood

[@greensharktwod]

⁠@@icetide9411you know you’re drunk when you try to drink from a frying pan

[@lyra5366]

"Am I a hypocrite? - Yes" Based answer tbh

[@leadpoisoned45]

Persian Persuader + Splendid Screen gives you more charge uptime than walking uptime

[@lynlmao]

that mr moesby vehicular manslaughter was a deep cut

[@Cinnamowo]

That's a nice arguement, however, Demopan > Demoknight. The sound of frying pan dealing critical hit is powerful enough to inflict fear onto the enemy team

[@xyvernthederg5760]

plus if you land like 4 crits in a row with the tide turner you can do the exact same thing

[@owenblount7334]

I’m literally the cannon hybrid knight psycho with the banana claid from the warrior’s spirit BWA used as the claid damage penalty example so uh I like flying around donking and hitting people with my banana slamma

[@michaeljonathan9715]

Random critical hits disabled server: *no*

[@1mariomaniac]

*_C L A N G_*

[@butterlerpunch]

To mention soundsmith: its a paladin weapon!

[@marshal265]

9:47 That reference caught me off guard XD

[@Randomusername292]

A rare moment of a Spycrab almost getting slaughtered by a Sword crazed Scottish Cyclops, Luckly for the Spycrab it gets to live for a few moments before a Species called the Scunt makes it dead. 13:52

[@mariovelasquez1243]

In the days before the dark times, I used to run Loch-Splendid-Persuader as my go to. The Loch was basically my secondary to get rid of sentries or people backtracking and I just went at people with reckless abandon, timing a shield+swing combo was enough to kill pretty much anything other than an overhealed heavy and really fun, even considering I didn't get to trimping until MUCH later.

[@waaseanangl5293]

i love using the half-zatoichi on hybrid knight. i am not a weeb i am not a weeb i am not a weeb

[@TurtleButter]

hehe weeb

[@SqwimpyTF]

THERE WILL BE BLOOD (BLOOD) SHED (SHED) THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD THE ONLY ONE (ONE) LEFT (LEFT) WILL RIDE UPON THE DRAGON'S BACK BECASUE THE MOUNTAINS DON'T GIVE BACK WHAT THEY TAKE OH NO THERE WILL BE BLOOD (BLOOD) SHED (SHED) IT'S THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER KNOWN

[@onef1n1ty]

then we both love using the half-zatoichi on hybrid knight, good man!

[@Knightgob]

Health on kill is like heroin for me

[@vynthiswechseln3868]

Huh, is that a storm appro-

[@SouYef]

Where is squid milk you promise me huh? I gavee egg to basemment bob as promissed

[@ShakerSilver]

Charging endlessly, my beloved.

[@rngcupcakes]

I 100% sure that solar is gonna make a (second) hybridknight video where he plays with the Persain Persuader, and make fish look stupid

[@SqwimpyTF]

Seven nades is a lot when you hit 100% of your shots.

[@deefyler]

Oh the days of the pre-jungle inferno persuader where the metal packs gave you health

[@purplehaze2358]

"Or I'll try to get some easy yet satisfying combos by going from grenades into a mini-crit sword swing." The fact you missed the mini-crit on that scout while saying that brought me physical pain.

[@NanaKyoto]

Persian Persuader is high octane Demoknight gameplay, I actually own two Professional Killstreak Persian Persuaders.

[@MARINAAQUA358]

You are my idol, i love persian.

[@andyblanton6570]

Uncle Dane when he has to destroy all of his buildings because his teammate is making a video on the Persian Persuader:

[@Armegeothm]

Crackhead demoknight weapon idea: make the Caber deal massive damage to buildings with the explosion, give it a niche other than "might one-shot a light class once per resupply if the planets align and you sacrifice a goat to Lord Gaben"

[@doodguytheblank2403]

Also make it so that you always die when you hit anyone

[@chuckled125]

finally, demoman has a weapon that's good against sentries!

[@Armegeothm]

@@chuckled125 he already has so many, what's the harm in giving him one more?

[@chuckled125]

@@Armegeothm replace "harm" in your reply with "point"

[@Armegeothm]

@@chuckled125 In short, because it'd be funny. In long: Demoman as a class is uniquely suited for taking out Engi nests thanks to the ridiculously powerful explosive weapons he has in both primary and secondary. The fact that the anti-building Caber is completely redundant coupled with melee weapons being uniquely bad at dealing with sentries means that if a Demo wanted to use it, he would likely have to forgo at least one of his much better primaries/secondaries for the job at hand in order to actually close on the Engi. This is an incredibly goofy premise and I can't help but laugh thinking about it.

[@inkycat7167]

9:56 Feel like the skullcutter is designed to random crit

[@slendertf2]

ok but the loose cannon with tide turner absolutely smacks with the persuader

[@bliponthe]

If I had a nickel for every youtuber who praised the Persian Persuader, I’d have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice.

[@Ervonesque]

Still not enough tbh :D also i'm waiting for the claidheamh mor propaganda

[@cowboypeashooter]

Guess what,the Persian Persuader is festivizeable

[@muhammetpoyraz4944]

Dear god

[@Ze_eT]

@@muhammetpoyraz4944There's more.

[@AbadabaForever]

​@@muhammetpoyraz4944There is more

[@SqwimpyTF]

​@@muhammetpoyraz4944there's more

[@Thomas90012]

@@muhammetpoyraz4944 There's more

[@MortChrist]

No weapon stat, quirk or level bonus in any video game quite represent the Mel Blanc Tom & Jerry scream like the Persian Persuader does, and If you don't fuck with that I consider you my mortal enemy.

[@malablondi77]

also i love how demo holds the persuader the british way

[@3-valdiondreemur564]

"Videos like these, are made possible by viewers like you" Brain : New Vegas.

[@kittencat5221]

12:18 one your charge meter drops below 90% charges end if your total velocity drops below 300 hammer units. This total velocity considers both horizontal and vertical movement.

[@Totasfunnynumber]

Persian Persuader hybrid knight needs a new name, and I thought of a fitting one: "The Ammo Junkie"

[@TheJimkin]

the fish on a stick/tf2 community "the weapon is good so I can't like it"

[@hughmann981]

7:31 so just don’t hold down right click?

[@cedar1464]

3:30 spy moment

[@thepokeystormtrooper3585]

Lmao

[@kayoh9364]

This is the second video talking about how cool the Persuader is I've seen in the last few days. It's not a lot but it's weird it haooened twice.

[@anthonyoliver418]

Persuader demos as soon as they have they to use to use an actual primary: 😔😞😢😭😭😭

[@rodrigatorx2266]

12:17 this is because of the knockback slowing you down to under the minimum charge speed while under 90% charge. Solarlight mentions this in his charge video you cited earlier in the video

[@TuShan18]

The new steel brushed war paint also looks amazing with it.

[@IamDrDapper]

Alternate Title: Fish complains about scottish sword and golf club for 15 minutes straight

[@nodrogkram]

12:30 that Scout was owned

[@anthonyremaly7834]

Thanks for teaching me about Mr. Moseby’s sorted past. Really makes that scene of him teaching London hit different.

[@RickJaeger]

Demoknight is the only goof-off loadout that has been dignified, by virtue of continual support by Valve via new weapons and balance changes, with the status of "sub-class." It's baffling that they did this.

[@butlazgazempropan-butan11k87]

Honorable mention: Tide turner + skull cutter

[@darkranger116]

they really just made demoman a more fun sniper.

[@СтражПеченек]

0:41 Sir, that's your fault, you shortened distance with spy

[@genghisdingus]

That's cool and all but I still want the old persian persuader back

[@AmaterasuOjo]

Truly an eye-opening experience.

[@oolooo]

This Weapon really is the epitome of the Light Cavalry Unit , charging in and being highly mobile but very much capable of retreating quickly .

[@finneganmahony7743]

Charging in tf2 was always a strange case to me

[@Gnome_Tank]

This is the tiktok brainrot of demoknight swords due to its upside of 100% charge uptime.

[@PaulStompbox]

Darn. He didn't tell us to go out there and charge at every enemy in a chain succession and tell them Fish sent us.

[@WolvericCatkin]

_"Eat your heart out Kunai, were playing s\*\*ty Demoknight! _*_WHOOO!!_*_ "_ 😹

[@corbinpoe5695]

You forgot the downside of the sheild blocking half the damn sceen.

[@TheRealDismantler]

Well I’m convinced!

[@UsingGorillaLogic]

People also forget that the persuader is actually more flexible than the other swords in that you don't HAVE to commit, it is equally the best escape tool in that you can use ammo packs on your way out of situations too, and so it is more of a weapon about quick decision making in general.

[@Scarwing]

The Persian Persuader doesn't handcuff you to demoknight, it straps you in for the ride.

[@CptSourcebird]

As someone who's been inspired by the likes of SolarLight to pursue the Way of the Demoknight, I actually smiled like an idiot at the very first 5 minutes alone. I'm glad you took your time explaining this weapon.

[@maninthemirrortable]

6:21 "knight" and day... hehehe

[@Red-mg4ro]

Persuader Demoknight gives me a similar feeling to playing a Vanguard in ME3. Only with less explosions, ironically.

[@AstelDev]

the behelit falling during the intro gave me whiplash

[@spencerabdo5144]

I use it because my family is Iranian and in high school, when I picked up this game, I was on the debate team. So I was literally a Persian Persuader.

[@pygzig]

love the ratchet and clank music you use

[@nickrl113]

The charge crit could also just be tied to the amount of time you've been charging instead of the meter that "definitely won't get touched by anything during a charge other than the charge timer ticking it down absolutely ever right guys"

[@fumothfan9]

This is basically a battering ram in degroot meadival mode. I love chain meleeing or accidentally shield bash ending the enemy. The main enemy is damage like the baby face for scout. But once you line up and learn the timing you can do MLG chain attacks

[@DBArtsCreators]

The buff could be that the PP's melee crit (and perhaps the crit for all the shields) is based off time spent charging, not how much charge is left in the meter.

[@mrgodzillaraptors8632]

I have a feeling I’m gunna see a lot more Persian persuader demos now

[@Bunny_named_Pointy]

3:54 bro was shook😭

[@speedypichu6833]

I guess the persuader functions to eyelander like the big earner does the kunai, the former focuses on mobility and the latter more on health.

[@gapho5198]

I love the PP.

[@666chaox666]

I have been playing a lot of demoknight recently, but it's mostly with the half-zatoichi. The overheal you can get from it is insane. But with this video and the other video I watched about the Persian Persuader, I might have to switch it out for a bit.

[@VagueCastle649]

_you have certainly persuaded me to try the persuader once again_

[@kiracaroso]

The man has drank of the fountain of knowledge and realized that the PP is by far the most fun and balanced of the swords. All hail the massive PP and its endless stamina!

[@starzykillstar7652]

I dont really see people talking about the alternate hybrid of boots, sticky and eyelander. Its more of a 2-parter since usually you get heads then swap the shield out for stock, but having 235 hp, high speed and a sticky launcher is honestly pretty decent

[@Chronobus]

Demoknight should be it's own class to be honest. Give Demoman some new Grenade, Sticky bomb launchers and bottles to compensate while the Knight gets his swords, shields and gets a crossbow so he can still hit people from afar.

[@ThatD1spynser]

On the subject of collecting metal unintentionally: As a proposed fix, maybe you could hit reload to toggle the ammo-to-charge exchange on or off.

[@spaghettproductions4989]

O oh, dud dissed demo knight and the eyelander. Prepare to be doxed by solarlight lol

[@guzmaamzugsi4]

it took me until watching this video to realize the tide turner doesn't give a full crit

[@cthulhuplays6097]

I've always been a full-crit caberknight kinda person. Just appearing out of nowhere and oneshotting some poor player only to barely get away to a resupply is just so funny to me.

[@nio2.09]

I LOVE the persian pursuader! I have a strange one! I have a bind where I say, "I have a strange persian pursuader"

[@Meme0Lord0Jeff]

Persian persuader? Yeah, they probably do have one of those.

[@GameBoyHamazing]

a weird thing with the persuader is that in the past i've used the loose cannon and persuader and the cannon's ammo wasn't affected by the persuader. im almost certain it was a glitch and i don't know what caused it but it was VERY fun; dont know if it's been fixed yet but if it isnt...well. :)

[@AbadabaForever]

HybridKnighting with the Persuader actually taught me to value my shots and properly aim instead of mindless spam.

[@CyanDumBell_MC]

I remember when it used to heal you when picking up ammo pack, that was a fun time.

[@Arandonmaniac-2401]

Waiting for the cloak and dagger episode part12

[@LordRemiem]

12:50 didn't they fix this exploit like, three times? Then released the Tide Turner because people couldn't live without being able to turn 180° while charging?

[@SolarLight]

Long story short, they weren't able to fix how your framerate affects turn rate, so players on low end systems turn less than players on high end systems. There is a limit to this, since they added a server sided limit, but your computer might still handcap you. The +left and +right binds are sometimes used as a workaround for players who don't have amazing PCs. There are a few other things you could try (like enabling mouse filter in your settings, which works best at 60 FPS for whatever reason)

[@LordRemiem]

@@SolarLight ohhhhh thank you, didn't know that. I don't know if I should laugh or facepalm at this point.

[@fabianarvaez32]

The katana had a short run on 6s as a way to build uber, so even in that regard isn't as punishing for regular demo

[@needlebodkin7693]

The persian seems fun because it lets you play around it's weaknesses instead of negating them, letting you charge more often instead of just making you faster Kills giving you another charge you can use to advance or flee instead of having tanky defense or health Its more active, making it better to fight as or against.

[@giovannimorelli4592]

I LOVE FULL DEMOKNIGHT WITH THE PERSIAN PERSUADER

[@MusForReal]

I consider this weapon as a "stock" sword, as it's the one with the least game altering stats

[@sparkywires]

In half of these clips you die

[@Halevolt]

I think the Eyelander should have the Persian Persuader's downside of -80% ammo on primary and secondary.

[@chanadlerbing8659]

FSOAS confirmed uncut

[@LucanVaris]

This weapon is one of several reasons why certain people want the Vaccinator to apply melee resistances.

[@rockowlgamer631]

9:10 I didn't know you couldn't get ammo from anything but a lv 3 dispenser while hybird knighting while using the PP. That sucks. Also what's the warpaint on your claidhemoir? Looks neat.

[@aqwkingchampion13]

Question on your opinion with the eyelander: Do you still have that kind of hatred for people who are actually engaging in risk/reward with it? When I play demoknight, I always go hybrid with the loch n load (specifically for sentries) and enjoy using the eyelander and splendid screen and aiming for the biggest, toughest guys I can find because a five-head max-range bash-and-crit can kill a heavy. Essentially, I make myself squishier and slower than normal, remove all of my charge-turn bonuses, have a ranged weapon only really suited for sentries, and go out of my way to fight high-health classes. (Of course, an occasional full-health bash kill on scouts is also fun.)

[@gudiwa8798]

Never knew about the binds thanks a lot