V8 Swapped Miata vs Ford Mustang GT Drag Race & Roll Race

[@TFLcar]

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[@Jayturbo_ENTJ]

Nice…🎉😢😅😊❤

[@westwestforlife]

😊ty😮😊😮😮😊

[@westwestforlife]

Ll😢

[@SkyyMi]

A V8 go kart with a full interior with a Vin and Plates. I mean what more could you want in life

[@Pilot545]

A Porsche, apparently.

[@XxXDOMINIONXxX]

a porsche lol

[@Malinkadink]

@@Pilot545 Definitely, especially when the whole job costs 75K + donor car, that's a lot of options for cars at the 100k mark, new or used.

[@Kclerie]

A LS swap with a curb of 2790lbs, and 50/50 is insane.

[@gofetchdesignllc2235]

Hate to sound like THAT guy, but it's the most impressive part of buying something like a used c5z or c6z. 3080 or under with zero weight reduction, 50/50 and a FAR more capable chassis. Even a regular coupe isn't far off and its not difficult at all getting them to 2800-2900 lbs. I was very close to LS swapping my last but the smart money is on the vette. That said, the experience in a car like that is pretty non trivial. I've driven many cobras, own a blown vette and a viper but an LS3 Miata would be an entirely different animal.

[@92rednotch]

Not 50/50 anymore. As a GM guy, I love the LS, but the swaps are tired.

[@Arcaged]

@@gofetchdesignllc2235 also its 2790lbs with everything in it, and it's 51/49 like he said, there is room to lose some weight, a vette striped won't have that weight distribution and at the end of the day you lose the sleeper factor. do this swap in a ST miata and you lose another 160lbs, and you still have a modern car with a decent interior, options...

[@BrHH772]

@@gofetchdesignllc2235 well the reason old corvettes are comparable in weight is due to old chassis and body being less safer than modern cars by a lot. plus unterior is a garbage, and cutting it out wouldn't exactly be the correct comparison. my c7 gs 1lt with forged wheels, full unterior is ~3400 lbs. That car would be more or less comparable to ND miata in terms of safety/modern interior. And soft top v8 Miata would be 750 lbs lighter... but c7 gs would cost you just ~60k, which is way less than 100k Miata

[@jaredpowell4108]

​​@@gofetchdesignllc2235Those aren't far more capable chassis. They're mostly junk. Also you'd have to drive a Corvette, which is embarrassing

[@NWI_Steel]

I didnt catch "V8" in the title, clicked on it, and was so confused what tommy was driving 😂

[@jedironin380]

🤣

[@jasonharris6412]

Same here!

[@ColocasiaCorm]

Read better

[@chiemekaa]

Most impressive is shoehorning a 6.2L V8 inside a Miata!

[@NBSV1]

That’s why LS swaps are so common. Old style pushrod engine makes them more compact. I’d like to do one with a short stroke LS built for high rpm. You don’t really need the high torque in a light car so making it a high rpm screamer would be fun.

[@_shreyash_anand]

@@NBSV1 A screamer LS Miata with 650-700hp? I'd pay for that

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

It's physically not that crazy large. The 5.0 Coyote is a physically larger engine

[@raymondsnow7745]

The Hellcat swapped NA was crazier and didn't fit under the hood

[@rtcturnemup7028]

@@raymondsnow7745there’s a KZbinr finishing the swap now. He has the engine and everything mated up

[@AceCyberstarGaming]

“Should have a 2 Liter Naturally Aspirated Squirrel underneath the hood “ 😂

[@propertypreparedness6846]

Love seeing a guy who gets to live out his passion. We all should aspire to do that.

[@Cloud30000]

I would definitely get myself in a lot of trouble with that Miata.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

There is a guy in Texas that drag races an electric Miata that he built for under 20k with forklift batteries and motors. He is running in the 8 second quarter mile now...

[@Xenomorphenia]

Yep... almost 100K for this Miata is quite pricey, IMO.

[@sturdyvw]

But it’s out of juice at the quarter lol.

[@jackpoage5419]

1:30 "because it has a cam" When people asked me if my 409 425HP had a cam I told them, "No it's a 2 stroke". Almost no one caught on.

[@ghostofcpast8893]

I caught both. Used to hear " 3/4 cam" ...what...the hell...are you talking about? Or " full race cam ". We built stock cars for 15 years and all we went by was lift and duration.

[@Cloud30000]

That Miata is one of the few cars that actually needs a big rear spoiler to have any hope of utilizing the full power

[@Cloud30000]

I would love to see that Miata with giant summer race slicks and a spoiler, then rematch the 911 to see the difference.

[@trixkid27]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@williamgentry3427]

Spoilers are for turns, not street cars in a straight line. 11’s in nowhere near fast enough to need a wing for straights.

[@thesaltysergeant4103]

I was going to say this as well. It would make it ohh so much better. !!!

[@xtnuser5338]

In a drag race? A spoiler or wing won't help it launch any better. And it seems to use the full power just fine in higher gears. I'm sure it would help power out of turns on a road course, but it's not going to do much for drag racing it.

[@larrycuritsjr7289]

Guys, I appreciate that you got on with the drag race right away! You filled all the info in the middle & finished up with an additional race. Awesome pacing of video!

[@AceCyberstarGaming]

V8 Miata sounds epic!!!

[@Oldskul-iz4om]

Brings back memories of the '90"s, when there were several people swapping the Ford 302 Windsor, into Miata's, and beating the pants off unsuspecting drivers!!

[@impurfekt]

That Miata needs an exorcist.

[@mediocreman2]

Very cool. I would be tempted to just get the Porsche though. Miata ND is $20k, then $80k for the V8 install puts it in a category with a lot of tried and trued competition.

[@Cakebattered]

Just buy a used Pontiac Solstice/Saturn Sky Mallet Edition. They can be had for less than the price of any Porsche.

[@LordToxygene]

​@Cakebattered thank you! I needed this info!

[@weegeemike]

I would LOVE to own one of these...im sure theyre at least $60k, dude has a LOT of parts and labor involved in a build like this.

[@AmericanDuck]

If they brought the price down about $40k, you’d have a tons of these on the road. Great idea, but executed to a ridiculous price point.

[@dub88acc]

I think thats the point. Considering a Lotus Emira with 400+ hp and even a cayman gt4 are all north of 100k. So this is around that ballpark. You're paying for someone else doing the research and putting in the sweat in order for you to daily drive it.

[@spcneary]

@@dub88accvery true, people try to put these in the same box as a stock Miata or a mustang GT, it’s so much more than that. Honestly what a value, if I had 100k-140k to buy a fun car and already owned a a daily and a pickup this would be in my top 3. I used to work at a Mazda dealer, the RF is a very good car from the factory and much more worthy of a v8 than older models.

[@AmericanDuck]

@@dub88acc I understand what you mean, but this is not a Porsche or Lotus. Much of the engineering has already been accomplished by Mazda and Flyin’ Miata. The cost and labor of the parts is at a premium. There is no reason to buy this car if you can get those cars with loan and a full warranty or a lease. It’s a very expensive novelty otherwise that most people that enjoy Miatas are going to balk at. If you undercut those cars with a better price, then you’ve got a great opportunity to make even more money because of a value that will increase the company’s profits through volume. Everyone wins. Maybe they are doing it that way, but it doesn’t seem like it.

[@carlospacheco8640]

@@dub88acc Audi RS3 and a BMW M2 are 400hp+ and both cost less than $70k. Even the new Supra which is a 2 seater sports car has almost 400hp and costs $60k. Plus, these are all brand new prices with warranties and 0 miles on the chassis and engines. The price for this Miata is too expensive. But to each their own.

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

That's never happening unless the partner with GM or something.

[@ScoobyFermentation]

Nice write-off for Roman’s personal $150k Porsche 911.

[@billnorblat4047]

Thank you for actually launching the Targa! So frustrating to watch Roman just roll the throttle on.

[@TFLcar]

Roman says he does that just to piss you off🤔

[@mikeyc8139]

$100,000 Mazda after car+mods is not really my thing but hey, the Miata crew... maybe.

[@danbufford8848]

I doubt that's anywhere near that price. People have been swapping them for 10k-20k since 1989.

[@thewheelieguy]

​@@danbufford8848 the shop owner said $75,000 plus your car. And yeah, that's 3x the price of the swaps I've followed on the forums.

[@raymondsnow7745]

Miata drivers would not want this car.

[@HR3EEE]

Overpriced.

[@yoder903]

You can get the car for like 20k on marketplace, then probably engine and transmission for like 20-30k, so half that price

[@killakam123321]

Still couldn't justify spending 100k+ on a miata

[@MrDinodane]

That car is awesome. Love the sound

[@ScottToavs]

SWEET! thanks' for keeping these alive

[@abqcrutch]

Another great Tommy and Kase video. That Miata is ridiculous!

[@markspence3750]

That is alot of work to put a Camaro rear diff in that car. That's almost more work than the crate engine....

[@joyroc885]

Remember seeing one of these on The smoking tire channel a while back. I wanted one then and I still want one now. lol

[@vaabisvobear]

So do I...

[@jedironin380]

I saw one years ago at Bristol with a Miata event. It was from "their main competitor." He was telling me they had to de-tune the LS3 to get better handling and faster road course times in the Miata. He ran some laps around Bristol speedway behind the pace car, it was nuts!

[@ctbtyper]

Tommy's reaction in the drag race made my day! :D

[@dustinleonard3408]

you guys must have never heard of the Monster Miata's from back in the 90's...

[@MidwestMotor]

I WAS SO looking forward to watching this video but after the very first 10 seconds I'M OUTTA HERE!!!!! The SCREACHING man imploded my head!

[@Darren-su2gm]

So it only wieghs 2879 pounds costs over $100 k and is a little faster than a stock $50 k mustang.I still would go with the mustang Gt.I also like that there is more room in the mustang and a back seat area.

[@jedironin380]

The "back seat" in a Mustang really doesn't count for much. I had a 2011 GT (first year for the Coyote engine) and the rear seat is really useless. Very hard to get in to, can't really seat people in it, and it's hard to get stuff in and out of. It did run a 12.9 @ 110mph 1/4 mile on the crappy stock tires, though. 😃

[@7000U9ZHIFT]

LMAO keep dreaming.. the more they go the more that 6.2 is pulling in 2800lb car lmao... 100k car your tripping

[@clarrnceclark9482]

Yes I would take the mustang It wouldn't take that much To boost the power then you would have a race The tang is much heavier That didn't help The race As far as the backseat I think they're just Find that dude who doesn't like the seat has a problem maybe he has hemorrhoids

[@ricardolandgrave2532]

This is basically like following the recipe for a Cobra with the wrong ingredients and still getting an amazing result.

[@WheresHerb]

I'd be happy with a GM 3.8 V6 turbo in the Miata. As long as it's manual.

[@sbklvr]

Pretty awesome Miata, wondering if maybe a turbo Kswap would be a better route, less weight, .more room for activities. How about the 911 running low 12s , a mile up. That rear motor set up has all the grip. Geeat video, guys.

[@2910mack]

just happy to see him rowing through them gears, great driving

[@Roddy451]

I lived in a place where engine swapping was very common. The craziest ones I watched were a Volvo 240DL with a big-block V8 and a Suzuki Forsa with a 1.8 Toyota engine. Needless to say, the Miata is my cup of tea.

[@GTStuning-]

I've tuned a few older Miatas as well as 350z and FR-S cars with 6 speed LS swaps. Super fun combo

[@wackit6756]

Geez, you would think they would put the top on in the Miata to reduce drag, seems like a no brainer for better acceleration times.

[@chosenfewbuddha5696]

love the channel what drag track in Denver you run on?

[@markspence3750]

I just watched "Ford v Ferrari" and I have always wondered why nobody makes a modern version of the AC Cobra with a roof, preferably with a 289, not a 427. Kit cars are one thing, but a factory-built car would be awesome.

[@robertlaw2304]

I’ve seen a Miata with a 289

[@raymondsnow7745]

Factory 5 will do that for you. Can get a small block stroker in it too

[@Eklectic1]

A wild third party engineered Miata-Vette is still no match for Porsche's precision passion.

[@racequad9]

$80,000 and you still need to provide the car?!?! So you're at over $100k when it's all said and done.... Damn! If you have some mechanic know-how, and browse the used market, you can build this yourself for under $45k. Under 100k mile 2015-2019 Miata's are going $13k-$19k in my area, so you can find one dirt cheap if it has issues and high miles. LS3 engine off a 5th gen Camaro under $5k or find a low mile mild built one for $10Kish. New T56 magnum for under $4k. Used rear end with fresh rebuild under $1,500. Engine mounts, ECU, brakes, axles, and other misc parts $5Kish, probably less. That's under $40k on the high end. Don't forget you can sell the stock parts you pull off your Miata.

[@robertgartner6072]

Unfortunate that is not the situation. The "magic sauce" is the software (custom made by Flying Miata) that translates all the Miata electronic signals (from all the onboard computers) and remaps them to the GM signals. This is something that was coordinated with both Mazda and GM for a SEEMLESS implementation.

[@racequad9]

@@robertgartner6072 that alone isn't worth $40k. Plus, I'm sure they'll sell you software for you to install in your build. Which, again, will be way less than buying a car built by them

[@jasonzuress9908]

@@robertgartner6072 I'd just put a Haltech in it.

[@theoriginaljohngalt2450]

It take a lot more than “some mechanic know how” to do something like this! As a mechanic for over 20 years, projects like this aren’t easy, especially for the clean set up. There’s so much to know! Let alone doing the electronics of it all. Most people dread doing anything with electrical or understand how it all works.

[@lucasblanchard47]

11:12 just like Tommy said, this is an absolutely BONKERS swap package and I WANT ONE!

[@saxon1177]

That 3-liter Porsche is simply badass!

[@GODEYE270115]

Never thought I’d see a miata that actually looks intimidating The fact that it hooks off the line is nuts

[@LeslieGreenberg]

Stang runs 12.4_115. Stock. Meata. 11.26._123...any questions ????

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

Seems about right but idk how easy it's gonna hook up. No traction control on the car

[@charleslewis9853]

Would not take much money to add hp to mustang.

[@leovi8706]

This is not just an engine swap... the whole thing is redone, the only mazda in that car in the badge. 😂 love it!!!

[@_Chev_Chelios]

He said that engine has a cam… That is incredible.

[@dannyphamous]

Really fun and amazing review!

[@ryryy1980]

This video starts out great!

[@Nellie-H]

Great job! Sarasota my hometown! His location is actually in Bradenton 😉

[@ewoggerts]

He had the roof off its pretty much a giant parachute.

[@davehooper6481]

I've got one on GT7 with well over 600hp. It would be too risky to drive it hard in real life but it's a blast with a VR helmet!!

[@WalterA-b3d]

Way better than a Cobra kit car if you want something to actually drive in comfort. Having a/c is a must have. Those large v8s make a lot of heat that transfers into the drivers area. Fun and informative video.

[@WaveManMike]

They should do this to a Lotus!

[@nickmorris9383]

They did....it's called Hennessey venom f5, currently the fastest production car in the world and has driven over 300mph!.....they started out using lotus cars, now though, I think all production is done complete in house with carbon fiber.

[@Steve-O_FPV]

$100k for a Miata?!? No thanks.

[@shaneflutsch2270]

Watching this and listening to the times that they hit really pushes home the point that a lot of people dont understand, they think that if they buy a mustang (or any car honestly) that ran a 12.1 quarter mile that they have a 12 second street car. But on the street without tires being aired up just to the perfect pressure, and without an actual dragstrip and light, timer, etc, theyre going to run a bit slower. Quite a bit slower.

[@DearSX]

Love it, amazing combo!

[@80GP400]

Great Video, Fun Times.

[@stevenarseneault1972]

What if you launched the Miata in 2nd gear? Should hook up with low torque then max HP in high rpms.

[@redtesta]

LS3's are monsters. Very cool what was done but $75k is pretty steep. Just sayin.

[@anotherplottwist]

It's a simple thing of beauty.. point & shoot 🕺🏽🕺🏽

[@jamesonpace726]

Ok, now that's the dern coolest sleeper, ever....

[@phillyhump]

So, the way I understood it was $75,000 on top of the price of the car. Lol. So over 100,000 for Miata? A MIATA!?!?

[@tealchief]

twenty bucks this guy own a pig fat american car.

[@TTTmustang]

Why do all these car channels use the slower 6 speed mustang when they race against other cars

[@danbufford8848]

Keep it even. Manual😂vs manual. Not to mention keeping compare prices down. The 10r80 would make a large difference in both.

[@TTTmustang]

@@danbufford8848 I understand and I know that car would still beat an auto mustang. That thing was amazing. Awesome video!! It’s just not to many KZbinrs making content with the auto. In this video it makes sense why they used the 6 speed. Cheers

[@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman]

Miata has the Heartbeat of America but that German engineering 🏁

[@InvestBetter.]

A V8 Miata? There's love in the room.... I live in Miami, and drive a C7 Z06 with a 7-speed, so this is right up my alley

[@justinstiff5641]

Naturally aspirated squirrel 🐿️🐿️🐿️🐿️ hahaha 🤣

[@dmart29]

Never thought I’d say this…that Miata sounds so good 👌

[@davidholcomb9961]

That car is wild!

[@ICU1337]

Did he just say 75k...? You could just swap an RX8 for 10k and get a better situation... I had to have heard him incorrectly. No way he said "give me the money for a bmw/Porsche/audi/ and I'll give you a mazda 😊"

[@SolveFixBuild]

I wonder if a Whipple would fit under the Miata’s hood. 🤔

[@NBSV1]

The small/medium ones would. Seen a few with centrifugal superchargers too.

[@SolveFixBuild]

@@NBSV1 wow that would be an incredible experience driving one. Probably 600-ish hp.

[@niky2shotz7thg90]

When dave started racing?

[@MarMPB]

🏆Thanks for the video, guys! Love that Shelby Cobra approach of a big V8 in a small sport car! But considering I have the same initial dream as the fabricator, I have to ask: which one would be faster, the FFR Cobra with the common crate Coyote engine or the Miata LS3 V8?

[@sombut415]

That’s hella krazy! So badazz!

[@comfort_in_discomfort]

I want one. Absolutely will have one.

[@gage5650]

The v8 Miata is cool AF but I'd rather buy a used Porsche 991 or 992 for the same money and retain a decent resale value. What's the resale value of an LS swapped Miata in 5 -10 years? Probably not great.

[@ALMX5DP]

I dont think you should buy for resale. Buy for smiles and enjoyment with a plan to keep it for as long as you can work a wheel and a clutch pedal.

[@markmiller6751]

How about an LS swapped Porsche?

[@dougpendleton1266]

Great job guys!!!

[@mikedownload4029]

I wonder if they have an option to drop in an LS7 instead. 🤔

[@narrowistheway77]

All internal combustion engines that use pistons have cams…. What you meant to say was it had a “hot cam upgrade”

[@bryaninnc5511]

Awesome video! Reminds me of the Scarab Z cars

[@lokinocmrperfaq4two175]

Wht about driver safety features like tracion n stability, do they work?

[@EVOVIISWE]

No, not working, ABS brakes still works.

[@davidparkin9017]

Did he reach across his body and shift with his left hand????

[@gunsncars469]

I'd rather spend the money on a C8,or a c7 z06

[@chrism869]

that v8 miata is something else

[@tilmonr]

Why didn't they use the automatic GT they used to compare the manual GT to?

[@mistersecret88]

Cause makes too much sense

[@kenjiwenji]

​​@@mistersecret88Exactly! They make some really dumb decisions on this channel. That blue GT ran a 13.89 at 109. It would've hung with that Miata.

[@scotter]

I bet it's MPG is better than any car with an engine that size ever, given how light that car is! I'm super curious what that MPG is.

[@williampenturf3876]

I have a 73 914 with a ls7 that street legal.

[@BigAl22]

Love when you guys do modded stuff!! That's when the Toyotas especially get really fun 😎😎

[@roguedogx]

Before watching- honestly I don't think so. Even with a V8, the MX-5 still has fundamentally less grip on launch, and the power to weight ratio isn't enough to make that up in the quarter mile.

[@roguedogx]

18:30 okay so depending upon what gear and speed, I think this is where the Badger will take it. The manual gearbox will allow the MX-500 to get right to max power right away, the 911 will have to build boost and pick a gear. couple that with the Mx-5's top end advantage, and I would be the 911 will just steadily fall back as the speed climbs.

[@roguedogx]

I am not doing good today.

[@jeffreybalandra8891]

Now that’s a nice little fun car to drift

[@brycerush98]

Dual clutch did the Miata in, but that thing is insanely fast

[@imma3knee]

I feel like the last time I saw I think his name was Tanner from flyin miata, talking about their ls swap nd miata, he had the exact same fashion sense as the guy who built this car.

[@kwjr.9569]

Love that miata. Wow.

[@cup_and_cone]

Would have liked to know what the 0-60 and 1/4 figures were.

[@lowtunedg9211]

The 10 speed Auto smokes the 6 speed

[@dtruth5769]

I own a Miata. And love it. Even with the V8, you can't compare it to having a Cobra SC. Imo

[@realaveragegamer3053]

first drag face went from 😂😂 to 😵‍💫😵‍💫

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

I'm surprised the Miata wasn't quicker, I've done 13.45 in a 97 turbo Miata, and I had to turn the boost down as I got it dialed, because the local track didn't allow a convertible under 13.5.

[@markmiller6751]

Did you have a roll bar or cage as the little boys around here say.

[@fantabuloussnuffaluffagus]

@@markmiller6751 No.

[@nathanbillingsley42]

You all act like this is the first Miata with an ls in it. Taylor ray and others have had them for drifting for years.