New Ram RHO vs Ford Raptor R vs Razor Rocks!

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@stevekniess3665
@stevekniess3665 Ай бұрын
Love the video thanks guys.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@gsguy9359
@gsguy9359 Ай бұрын
Manufacturers have gone nuts. I bought a 2014 Raptor limited edition for 57k out the door. 114k isn't even realistic anymore and they have priced themselves out of most people's price range!
@multivisao
@multivisao Ай бұрын
Bro that was 10 years ago…inflation in 2022 alone was 30%…!
@is6566
@is6566 Ай бұрын
@multi… No it wasn’t. 😃
@clayskousen9694
@clayskousen9694 Ай бұрын
Your raptor didn’t have a supercharged 700hp engine in it, 12” touch screen, live shocks, active exhaust etc. they’re arent comparable in features why would they be comparable in price 💀
@ParkerWirl
@ParkerWirl Ай бұрын
@@is6566It certainly was.
@is6566
@is6566 Ай бұрын
@Parker… In which parallel universe? 😃
@danramirez4290
@danramirez4290 Ай бұрын
I so love the relationship! I so love your channels! You guys are absolute naturals in front of the cameras.
@collindownes4567
@collindownes4567 Ай бұрын
Cocky Andre is my new favorite TFL character 🤣🤣
@t2pt1
@t2pt1 Ай бұрын
Andre is soooo scared to drive these trucks he always so nervous lol 😂
@Captain-Awesome
@Captain-Awesome Ай бұрын
I think we are seeing a little normal nervousness and then some acting to the camera. Love Andrea!
@HTX_ROME
@HTX_ROME Ай бұрын
As much as they cost I’d be a little nervous too lol.
@dang5553
@dang5553 21 күн бұрын
Yea one of the 3.0 turbo stoped running the HEMI will be back soon
@WW-wf8tu
@WW-wf8tu Ай бұрын
This is the Roman I like to watch. Relaxed. Supportive. Not overly goofy. A boss to respect. And I agree about which truck you chose Roman. They are a helluva lot of $ however, that Raptor R is worth every penny IMO. For that V8 rumble. And all the other things it does and has as well. lol
@stevebachtel
@stevebachtel Ай бұрын
RHO is the $55k used truck I’m most looking forward to.
@troypatillo1688
@troypatillo1688 Ай бұрын
That’s the only way I would get either one of these is second hand market. You will still be able to get them with a good factory warranty as well.
@Captain-Awesome
@Captain-Awesome Ай бұрын
You guys do such a great job with these videos! It’s real world demonstrations with great discussions!!
@nlken7175
@nlken7175 Ай бұрын
The Ford really needs the Torsen front diff. It was easy to see on the razor rock's.
@who2u333
@who2u333 Ай бұрын
The wind was KICKIN' that day. Looked like a good day to be on the trails however.
@stlswagger
@stlswagger Ай бұрын
There's only so much I can take of Andre driving offroad
@richfarfugnuven6308
@richfarfugnuven6308 29 күн бұрын
I am sure that you would do much better...
@ChrisC-y1j
@ChrisC-y1j Ай бұрын
You guys really need to perform these snow and ice comparisons with same tires on both vehicles, it’s the only way to really see the difference in the actual trucks
@tuckermally4856
@tuckermally4856 22 күн бұрын
I 100% agree
@Silverback_GMT410
@Silverback_GMT410 20 күн бұрын
Yes but the true purpose of these tests is to see how comparable vehicles perform “as equipped from the factory” straight out of the box testing.
@johnagmail3216
@johnagmail3216 16 күн бұрын
That makes zero sense....Your 114K (Before Dealer ADM) Raptor or Raptor R comes with BFG (SUCK SUCK SUCK) tires...that's Ford's choice...and RAM went with Goodyear, which comes on some of the Ford Broncos ironically....so it's 100% Fair OEM vs OEM
@JR-pb5dz
@JR-pb5dz Ай бұрын
Wow, lots of negative comments this morning and there may be truth when they say the holidays is tough on some people with mental health issues. This was a great video. It’s amazing that just 3 years ago you could purchase a fully loaded TRX for less than the the RHO.
@johnagmail3216
@johnagmail3216 16 күн бұрын
I have a 21 Levell II TRX ($88K) and the Value vs. the RHO is stupid...Could not agree w/you more.
@scottgililland1526
@scottgililland1526 Ай бұрын
Great video guys! Both trucks are awesome in their own way. I have a RHO on order & can't wait for it to arrive!😎
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@moyacosta6223
@moyacosta6223 Ай бұрын
When the trx came out in 2021 it had a starting price of 67k before options and unreal inflation, this rho should be much cheaper than that
@paulalvarado111
@paulalvarado111 Ай бұрын
Starting price is 70k, fully loaded is 89k. And that’s not including dealership markups. Slightly cheaper than the Raptor.
@PyroBlonde7777
@PyroBlonde7777 Ай бұрын
Comparing to a truck from many years ago makes literally zero sense. Compare the RHO to a base model Raptor and suddenly, the RHO is the far better bargain. Just say you're a mindless Ram hater and move on.
@gpaje
@gpaje Ай бұрын
Base for base, they are pretty close in price, but have you looked at current prices for just regular 1500s. You can easily get a Rebel up to $75,000, without all that power, wide body or advance active suspension. What is a last call TRX going for now? $120K? Compared to the Raptor V6, the RHO is a bargain, with much more power and about 10K cheaper spec for spec.
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 Ай бұрын
@@gpajeActually, spec for spec, they are about the same. Don’t believe me, go price them out. I did and the RHO comes in about as much as a Raptor 37 PP. Soooo, base Raptor is actually the bargain here.
@gpaje
@gpaje Ай бұрын
@Pilot545 I did price them, I'm actually in the process of choosing one of them, and the Raptor is more expensive with substantially less power, how do you figure it's a bargain, even if they were the same price considering the power difference??? 37" tires aren't that expensive, also the RHO is 37 ready with 90 more hp.
@seandemmon6903
@seandemmon6903 Ай бұрын
Give the Power Wagon a crack at that stuff please. Both R and RHO are insane rigs. The overall performance and off road abilities of these rigs is quite impressive. Comphy too. For us older folks this stuff would have been a pipe dream in the 60s 70s and 80s.
@lloydswartz7354
@lloydswartz7354 29 күн бұрын
Has not been updated this century, so they do not have any reason to. 2025 looks the same for the most part sadly.
@tuckermally4856
@tuckermally4856 22 күн бұрын
That would be cool to see, but the Power Wagon wouldn’t be a fair comparison. It’s got a front locker, and neither of these trucks have that..
@Magnasynn
@Magnasynn Ай бұрын
Loved the video today guys! Good job braving the weather.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@gilbertferguson1685
@gilbertferguson1685 Ай бұрын
Laurel and Hardy on the trail😂. Nice work guys. Happy Holidays to you.
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Thanks, happy holidays to you too!
@neoprufrok
@neoprufrok 27 күн бұрын
Great video and driving. These are the videos that are truly helpful to someone like me who's looking to buy... it's nice to see real world comparisons vs paper comparisons.
@WilfredoBrito-s6d
@WilfredoBrito-s6d 15 күн бұрын
You guys never disappoint. Hello from Puerto Rico.
@larryschmidt3594
@larryschmidt3594 25 күн бұрын
Driving through already packed snow makes it easier for the Ford.
@Malc664
@Malc664 Ай бұрын
The RHO seems to have better traction on Razor Rocks. The Raptor's front right wheel spun more till the left side had drive.
@skylermeredith2522
@skylermeredith2522 Ай бұрын
Difference here is tires, put the 37's on the RHO you have the same clearance, and similar approach/ departure. I would also bet it would slip around, KO2s are know to struggle in wet, wet snow, gret in dry snow.
@Cocky.Rooster
@Cocky.Rooster Ай бұрын
New Ko3 better in snow 👍
@PyroBlonde7777
@PyroBlonde7777 Ай бұрын
The RHO could afford 37" tires for the 30k price gap between these two. The RHO also has the better front diff, which clearly played a huge roll.
@turdferguson2839
@turdferguson2839 Ай бұрын
The RHO seems like a good truck at a reasonable price but im still concerned about the long term reliability of that overworked engine. Still remember when the TRX started at 70k when it debuted, crazy economy.
@tim6366
@tim6366 Ай бұрын
Hellcat or nothing
@melvinhunt6976
@melvinhunt6976 Ай бұрын
Reasonable PRICE ?
@Phuckseeds
@Phuckseeds Ай бұрын
​@@melvinhunt6976Gov printed money. It's in circulation, all our money worth less. The 84k for that new truck was probably 50-60k just 5 years ago.
@TheMeanmarine13
@TheMeanmarine13 Ай бұрын
Reasonable price? When it's selling for more than the TRX is sold for, that's approaching unreasonable price in my book
@turdferguson2839
@turdferguson2839 Ай бұрын
@TheMeanmarine13 Trx was over 100k in its last year, and a Raptor starts at 75k, RHO starts at 70k.
@ericdelacruz3746
@ericdelacruz3746 Ай бұрын
This ram is a beast!
@collindownes4567
@collindownes4567 Ай бұрын
I would pick RHO I love the comparison videos.
@GTOGregory
@GTOGregory Ай бұрын
These are great $65,000.00 trucks! On a side note. hardware stores sell "High-visibility Water-based Marking Paint" in assorted colors. The paint is great for marking the ground if you want to repeat your path.
@AmericanSurvival001
@AmericanSurvival001 15 күн бұрын
Yeah, you can imagine the first service would love seeing orange paint sprayed on the ground by a KZbin channel. It will be there for years.
@GTOGregory
@GTOGregory 13 күн бұрын
@@AmericanSurvival001 Have you ever been around construction sites and saw the orange ground or the grass coming up orange? Sorry, it doesn't happen because the paint dissolves in a week or two. It's temporary marking paint. Firms that mark underground cables or pipes use it.
@coachvonyo
@coachvonyo Ай бұрын
Sounded like a little excuse making for the R on that first obstacle. It definitely struggled more mainly because you could see it feeding more power to the tires without traction and less to the ones that needed it whereas the RHO seemed better at distributing power where it needed to be. Better clearance on the R was evident. Very good comparison and both trucks were very close and did well overall.
@tallll70
@tallll70 Ай бұрын
There were numerous tests by TFL and Driving Sports TV where it shows Ford wheel braking AWD is struggling in comparisons to point it's not getting out actually on different vehicles same way, it's ok they can improve most likely, Ford should so the AWD together with 4 Auto is complete
@johnagmail3216
@johnagmail3216 16 күн бұрын
100% Correct, and that was supposed to be fixed by applying the brakes to the wheels with less traction to trick the trucks into applying the power where needed...at least with Nissan back 10 years ago...apparently Ford didn't pick up on that...and it was very obvious.
@2003evodave
@2003evodave 10 күн бұрын
Two things were the problem here, 1- the driver was obviously afraid of the Fords extra power plus apprehensive due to these being borrowed vehicles. 2- The driver is not that good at off roading, especially in the snow and ice.
@coachvonyo
@coachvonyo 10 күн бұрын
@@2003evodave 2 ways I would refute that. 1. The trucks were driven nearly identically, and the "light" tires were spinning on the R, so the power was there. 2. These guys live in and operate all the TFL channels out of Boulder. They drive off-road and in the snow for a living. There are few out there with the experience of these guys. No need to make excuses for the R. It certainly is better in other ways just not that.
@jeffreyodachowski7517
@jeffreyodachowski7517 Ай бұрын
Another Awesome video... Merry Christmas
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Same to you
@keither7731
@keither7731 Ай бұрын
T looks like it is cold & windy & kudos for you guys braving the elements;S to bring this video to everyone. THANK YOU
@Flibertyjibity
@Flibertyjibity Ай бұрын
114k, and we have to ask “is this truck more or less reliable than a 1990 Ford Bronco”?
@zelenizub2036
@zelenizub2036 Ай бұрын
You don't have to ask, it's less reliable. They're praying hard to finish testing without major problems.
@STEWDEE
@STEWDEE Ай бұрын
​@zelenizub2036 Less reliable based on what? Do tell keyboard warrior. I've owned Bronco's and F-150's from the 70's-90's..Most were crap in reliability. 😂
@TheBronco67
@TheBronco67 Ай бұрын
No, they won't last as long. I have 2000 F 150 with 270,000 my neighbor has 2019 ram with 60k and the Hemi with cylinder delete and it is trash. He needs to replace or rebuild engine If I bought something with cylinder delete, I would buy the kit to disable it
@STEWDEE
@STEWDEE Ай бұрын
@TheBronco67 Ya. I've had 3 of those triton junk V-8 Fords from 97-2004. Spark plug spitting junk motors that all leak at the back of the cylinder heads . Low torque , low HP junk. If this is your idea of a great engine...🤣
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman Ай бұрын
@@TheBronco67 and yet my '72 Dodge D150 440 still runs great with 110,000 miles, '83 Ram 318 still chuggin with 178,000, '92 Dakota 318 is a workhorse with 219,000 & my landscaping truck '96 Ram {my last new truck} with 425,000 miles on the 360! Theres a reason I never bought a Ford after watching a few buddies have problems, all my problems were just routine stuff & never any major issues
@fireant1272
@fireant1272 Ай бұрын
Raptor sure did struggle alot more on the obstacles.😮
@bradleymckinney83
@bradleymckinney83 29 күн бұрын
Exactly I agree with you 100% but they always go back to making excuses for the raptor just like always being biased towards Ford..
@Ozzyfrk18
@Ozzyfrk18 28 күн бұрын
They need to run it back with the same tires
@bradleymckinney83
@bradleymckinney83 26 күн бұрын
​@@Ozzyfrk18 I agree 💯 !! Then the RHO would make it look that much easier. If the Ram had 37s and KO2s which isn't my fave tire by far it would make it look way way easy. The Raptor would really look like it's struggling if they did what u suggested about the tires.. and the last thing he said when they picked which truck they would want he said the raptor because it sounds better LOL that's the only thing he could say. But in my opinion if you put an exhaust on that inline 6 twin turbo hurricane engine I love the sound of a turbo better than I do a supercharger anyway at crawling speeds with a good exhaust damn inline 6 turbo sound like a little diesel I would much prefer that over the faint whine of the supercharger or exhaust note of the raptor. And on top of that yeah the raptor has a couple hundred more horsepower but what are you going to do put a smaller pulley on it get a little bit more power out of it. Turbos or limitless they can make that ram stomp that raptor easily with some tuning some fuel and a few other things. Me personally I would 100 % take the ram just as they are right now. Use the 20,30 thousand-dollar difference in cost and make a 1,000 horsepower RHO on 37s.. hey we can all dream can't we lol.. I'm content with my Cummins right now but it would be fun to have that RHO
@DWH300
@DWH300 20 күн бұрын
​@@bradleymckinney83 I see it the other way around
@bradleymckinney83
@bradleymckinney83 20 күн бұрын
​@@DWH300 diff perspective, I like it we all have em... Which part in particular do u see the other way around if I dont mind me asking? I know it's not the part about them being biased towards Ford they are in every single video. And if it's about what I commented on and the tires u say the raptor would do better with the RHO tires and 35s? Just confused about which part u see the other way? Thanks for the reply though.. hope to hear back from ya !
@farmerbyron1
@farmerbyron1 28 күн бұрын
The biggest problem with the Raptor R is the artificial scarcity. Make more of them and the price issue solves itself.
@bk27117
@bk27117 Ай бұрын
Got to go real high up in elevation to see any snow for those guys. It's 60 in Boulder for the next week.
@lloydswartz7354
@lloydswartz7354 29 күн бұрын
Same down here in Albuquerque. It's becoming disconcerting
@andyharman3022
@andyharman3022 28 күн бұрын
Off-roading isn't my thing, but this was interesting. Andre was so intense about his driving, and Roman was his instigator.
@mbrown9060
@mbrown9060 Ай бұрын
Good review guys. The RHO is obviously the better value any day of the week but 85K for a pick up truck is still NUTS!
@09roadraider40
@09roadraider40 Ай бұрын
Not sure why you guys did not lower the tire pressure
@davidwethington9320
@davidwethington9320 Ай бұрын
There's a lot of disagreement on the subject. My opinion is, since it wasn't deep it probably wouldn't make much difference. However I would have aired down around 5 psi myself.
@ponypwr
@ponypwr Ай бұрын
What an EXTREME offroad test...😂 Scared to death of a literally rocky road...
@RF-cz4ln
@RF-cz4ln 29 күн бұрын
Both nice trucks , my question, which tires were better , KO 2 or Ko3?
@VintageEvolutionSkateboards
@VintageEvolutionSkateboards Ай бұрын
Todays truck's are priced for super stars not for the average blue collar worker, and to put a finger point to that. We can't really work on them any more.The one thing most could take pride in doing now is gone. Not to mention the price to fix them. That's the real kicker $$$$ So as you watch all theses super stars show how good it is, just remember what we are loosing. And that's a lot!!!
@honda116969
@honda116969 Ай бұрын
The reason I say I'm happy with the engine in my 3rd gen Tacoma because it's 2000 lb lighter (4,500lbs) than these trucks. Anything I've thrown at that Tacoma TRD off-road 4X4 it has done VERY well had a lot of fun in Phoenix lake pleasant area & around crown King there's all kinds of trails. I don't go on anything hardcore but still doing what it does is amazing 🤩 you don't need to spend $80,000 to have a great time my truck was $41,000 with 120,000 mi warranty, manual transmission & probably more reliable haha... I just put on sumo spring bump stops to help with the washboard roads & when I'm towing, I also got it OTT tuned
@mvrod00
@mvrod00 Ай бұрын
You guys are crazy if you think $114k is what people are actually paying. Minimum $10k markup, likely $20k. When you compare the RHO actual vs Raptor R actual $45k - $50k difference.
@stevent.6165
@stevent.6165 Ай бұрын
It's always a "game of inches!!" Ha!! Love you Guys... Happy Holidays TFL!!
@ford4x4
@ford4x4 Ай бұрын
Wouldn't a Raptor 37 be a better opponent, I only thought they got the Raptor R because they still had some time with it after the drag race, but they seems to really focus on the price, which really is just for the engine and cool stickers.
@PyroBlonde7777
@PyroBlonde7777 Ай бұрын
The RHO is cheaper than the base Raptor though and makes 100hp more. So it really doesn't matter which truck they pair it against. The RHO has a nicer interior as well.
@Islandlazy99
@Islandlazy99 Ай бұрын
Good point.
@craigwalker7693
@craigwalker7693 29 күн бұрын
RHO is a sweet truck 🫡👌🏻
@cowelk
@cowelk Ай бұрын
The question is.... How many more $ for a moon/sun roof and bedliner for the RHO? If included, what is the price difference? Next, can 37" tires be placed on the RHO? I love your videos. It is so easy sitting in my chair and watching you off road and not being nervous.
@briank.3539
@briank.3539 16 күн бұрын
Andrea is a little TOO scary sometimes. Enjoy the truck for all it is worth. I love these types of videos, great job.
@jesussolano4335
@jesussolano4335 Ай бұрын
With money in hand, to buy either truck, which do you recommend, the RHO or the Raptor R? 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@MarcusTurner-b5p
@MarcusTurner-b5p Ай бұрын
Nice video keep up the great work TFL
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Blake_Jordan
@Blake_Jordan Ай бұрын
you guys have to keep the comparison between the EcoBoost raptor and the Rho!
@kerrywedge6977
@kerrywedge6977 Ай бұрын
Hi guys at tfl! I don't what upgrade you have down to your video equipment. It's very noticeable I wish all the other bloggers would do the same. Happy holidays
@jeffreybalandra8891
@jeffreybalandra8891 29 күн бұрын
The RHO didn’t struggle as bad as the raptor and it’s a supercharger V8 sad. Oh with 37 also
@crsantin
@crsantin 17 күн бұрын
Nice Ram. It’s very difficult watching Andre off road.
@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223
@hillbillyfromtheswamp6223 Ай бұрын
Andre seems to have severe anxiety. I thought my anxiety was bad. Holy hell. I feel bad for ya 😂😂😂
@mustangdbest220
@mustangdbest220 Ай бұрын
22:05 what drive mode is the raptor R in
@timricks1149
@timricks1149 28 күн бұрын
Seems as though the Goodyear wrangler MT tires on the RHO were better in the snow than the BF Goodrich KO2, or that what it look like in this video
@EricAndo123
@EricAndo123 27 күн бұрын
Still wish Ford continued to make the short cab version with the rear suicide doors. My 2020 Raptor is the last year they made them. 12” shorter wheelbase and it has a Torsen front diff.
@Pilot545
@Pilot545 29 күн бұрын
I don’t believe Andre. There is no universe where somebody purposely chooses the RHO over the Raptor R where price is not a factor.
@arrlos5163
@arrlos5163 29 күн бұрын
Tapping out on this one.
@AmericanSurvival001
@AmericanSurvival001 15 күн бұрын
Dude, if you go Whelan with any of your Ford buddies in a ram, that’s 10 years older than them they will find excuses not to do it because they will get shown up by a vehicle that cost 20% of what they paid and a decade older Ford never competesI’ve seen it so many times to the point I can’t find Anybody Who Dr., Fords that wanna go wheeling with anything made by Jeep or ram. They usually go out with the Chevy guys and they’re very closely matched inept.
@bruceknirs9987
@bruceknirs9987 Ай бұрын
I think I go with the ram myself
@cmiles97x38
@cmiles97x38 Ай бұрын
Make sure to get an extended warranty, they are already having issues with these stellantis engines.
@johnhahn8464
@johnhahn8464 Ай бұрын
Oh that ram quality 😂
@jc6618
@jc6618 Ай бұрын
Say what you want about Ram, and I’m no fanboy, but pretty sure Ford are always cost to or at #1 for recalls..
@seymourbutts8850
@seymourbutts8850 Ай бұрын
That would change after several trips to the dealership.
@PyroBlonde7777
@PyroBlonde7777 Ай бұрын
@@jc6618 Exactly, Ford has tons of recalls and problems. The Hurricane is a brand new platform and will have some teething pains. Certainly nothing to worry about in the long run. Also, the Hurricane isn't a "Stellantis engine", considering it is built in the US by Chrysler engineers, and shares less that 3% of its architecture with other engines.
@Kliffy77
@Kliffy77 Ай бұрын
Excellent video i think RHO was better!
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
@baldomerovega65
@baldomerovega65 Ай бұрын
Hey Andre .. How do you think gmc at4x aev 1500 I 6 duramax would have done today vs these two?? Obviously these are in another leage of their own.. but as far as climbing and rock crawling .. with front and rear lockers
@shawnriddle3018
@shawnriddle3018 Ай бұрын
You can definitely see the Ram 🐏 out perform the Raptor on Razor Rock. To much slipping. Front wheel on the Ram would lock up with abs way before the Raptor. These trucks are toys. I drive an AEV Prospector Power Wagon on 37's and is a tool. Great video, as always. Ram wins 🏆 again. Real world reviews. Before the power wagon Before willys Before jeep Dodge 1.5 ton 4x4 military truck since 1934.
@Itsajourneything
@Itsajourneything Ай бұрын
I would be terrified scratching up these awesome trucks. Don't have that problem with my 30yr old mighty max :p
@Powderproject13
@Powderproject13 Ай бұрын
haha andre you are so dramatic. wheels on the raptor look sweet. great looking truck
@LukeEdward
@LukeEdward Ай бұрын
16:00 Interesting suggestion. Maybe off-road trailer testing, soon?
@chrisbrennan2208
@chrisbrennan2208 Ай бұрын
Great vid and review of the RHO. I can't wait to get my hands on mine. Sadly RAM has messed up the ordering process.
@adamg3911
@adamg3911 Ай бұрын
When the Raptor R is in 4WD Auto or AWD mode, does the rear brakes mimic an LSD in low traction situations?
@perryrhodan1936
@perryrhodan1936 Ай бұрын
It tries, but Ford's Traction Control is rather dimwitted.
@adamg3911
@adamg3911 Ай бұрын
@ Some traction control on the rear end is better than nothing. The TRX is a good example of this, my neighbor has a daily driven Hennessey TRX and he has to rotate the the tires every 1000 miles or so because of the open rear differential that causes uneven wear across the rear tires. I’d like to see TFL perform a slip test comparing these vehicles.
@Silverback_GMT410
@Silverback_GMT410 20 күн бұрын
The Steps was a perfect example of why the front Torsen should not have been removed on the R specifically! Any why they haven’t thrown in front lockers on the F-150 Raptors is a mystery to me. They should just do as they do with the Ranger and Bronco Raptors and just give it to the people. The front Torsen with rear locking diff should be reserved for the Tremor line of vehicles and front and rear lockers for Raptors.
@bevans5611
@bevans5611 Ай бұрын
Scaled my 24’ Raptor R, with retrax bed cover at 5,980. (CAT scale, 1/4 tank of fuel).
@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel
@BloodAlwaysFindsItsLevel Ай бұрын
Why do you think people never drive them? Or trade them in so early?
@bevans5611
@bevans5611 Ай бұрын
@ afraid of depreciation or just in to flip it and make some $$. You would be surprised how many people buy vehicles in this price range and just park them. I don’t know how you could, it’s IMO the best daily driver sub $300k. And I’m really not sure I would have any more fun in a Urus.
@BrandonBarnett-fk8zf
@BrandonBarnett-fk8zf Ай бұрын
I love both these trucks im not a brand Loyalists. The ram seems to have a better dialed traction control or brake vectoring. The raptor on the razor rocks didnt want to brake that spinning front tire. Maybe a different offroad mode helps this. Just an observation.
@terencetampan5811
@terencetampan5811 29 күн бұрын
TFL need to start doing drone shots
@AmericanSurvival001
@AmericanSurvival001 15 күн бұрын
Have been on many many outings with TRX Jeep Rubicon’s for Broncos Raptors raptor R’s and the Fords are always notorious for the worst four-wheel-drive systems always bringing up the back of the pack, there’s a reason there’s a tow hook on the front of every Ford.
@KevinBrown-r7d
@KevinBrown-r7d Ай бұрын
Great mic for that much wind!!!!
@deepu2382
@deepu2382 29 күн бұрын
tbh will choose the raptor r even if it is more expensive bcse if you r ready to spend 85k on a pickup might as well go for the supercharged v8 , also feel like the raptor r s might hold their values a bit better in the future compared to a downsize....
@mendivil71
@mendivil71 Ай бұрын
Sure guys, compare testing a truck that cost $30K less to the Rap R should have been more like the RHO against the Rap Eco to make it fair. That video would be more realistic. I've only seen Rap R owners be pavement princess's with all kinds of accessories to show off that the owners got all kinds of money to spend on their toys.
@KairosX
@KairosX Ай бұрын
Your insecurities are showing. It’s all first world problems, no need to be down on bros that have more than you.
@BlackRam17
@BlackRam17 Ай бұрын
Never seen one person, that being said you just sound like a hater.
@crappy60
@crappy60 Ай бұрын
The RHO and Rap R are more closely equipped, the Rap Eco comes with 33’s out of the box so that would really set it back in this testing.
@bengarcia1091
@bengarcia1091 Ай бұрын
Ah no the raptor v6 comes with 35s! In fact every generation of raptors had 35s​@@crappy60
@crappy60
@crappy60 29 күн бұрын
@@bengarcia1091 really? I thought 33’s. Well I learned something new. I do know 37’s are an option for the Raptors nowadays.
@triedproven9908
@triedproven9908 Ай бұрын
The extra weight helped the RHO in low traction conditions it looks like. But either one seems like a fair deal. With the pricing difference the RHO almost makes you ok with 200 less horsepowers. 👍 Is the raptor r still towing 3000lbs less or did they match the 10k? That would be a good decider.
@treborheminway3814
@treborheminway3814 Ай бұрын
Does the RHO offer sliders instead of the steps?
@sduffield1977
@sduffield1977 25 күн бұрын
yes
@HelicopterDad-u5b
@HelicopterDad-u5b Ай бұрын
Great video! Awesome trucks! I wish I had the money!
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@anthonyc1883
@anthonyc1883 Ай бұрын
Andre's facial expression at 2:04. LOL!!!
@yattara61m
@yattara61m Ай бұрын
Visually RHO looks better
@DEACONR6155
@DEACONR6155 Ай бұрын
Lmfao no it doesn't
@andrewc1036
@andrewc1036 Ай бұрын
Just a bloated version of a 15 year old look
@johnhahn8464
@johnhahn8464 Ай бұрын
I do like the look of the rho but it's definitely not better the the raptor
@shane83402
@shane83402 Ай бұрын
Lmao ,yes it does. What a stupid argument.
@ryanm5626
@ryanm5626 Ай бұрын
@@DEACONR6155 Yes it does
@zmotorpro
@zmotorpro Ай бұрын
Great comparison video guys! I was sold on the RHO until I learned about the thermostat failures happening between 10-30k miles with other vehicles that have the Hurricane 3.0. If the thermostat gets stuck in the closed position, it will cause permanent engine damage with a warped head and block being the result. You won't see anything on the dipstick because there isn't one on this engine. You will need to look for the "milkshake" by looking at the inside of the oil fill cap. It's possible this issue has been resolved and maybe someone will chime in on this. The other issue I see with this engine is the plastic thermostat housing. Yep, plastic. That was a bad engineering decision to make the housing out of plastic. Both the thermostat and its housing is a PITA to replace if/when it comes time. I'm unsure if these parts fall under the powertrain warranty so an extended warranty may add some peace of mind. It's ironic that an engine called Hurricane has water problems. For me, I'm staying away from the Hurricane!
@qbanlink25
@qbanlink25 Ай бұрын
That's ok, others will buy it
@PyroBlonde7777
@PyroBlonde7777 Ай бұрын
The hurricane is a brand new platform and many brands have had issues with new tech. Saying you will "stay away from the Hurricane" makes you come off as biased, as Toyota's were blowing up engines for the past year now and no one says they'll "stay away" from Toyota.
@dor1tomcswagger69
@dor1tomcswagger69 Ай бұрын
It's covered under warranty so who cares new engine at 30,000 😂
@zmotorpro
@zmotorpro 29 күн бұрын
@@PyroBlonde7777 I actually prefer the RHO vs the Raptor. Who knows, maybe we'll see a TRX comeback!
@zmotorpro
@zmotorpro 29 күн бұрын
@@dor1tomcswagger69 How long do you think you will be parted from your truck for that engine swap?
@adamg3911
@adamg3911 Ай бұрын
Will TFL ever do a slip test with these trucks?
@TFLcar
@TFLcar Ай бұрын
They will crush the rollers 😂
@adamg3911
@adamg3911 Ай бұрын
@I agree, 6500Lbs is a lot of weight. Given the popularity of your channel, it seems like it would be a great tool to test the traction of modern trucks while making unique content. It would also educate people on the differences between different manufacturers. Not sure how much it would cost to have a set of 1/2ton truck capable rollers fabricated, but I’m pretty sure it would be moot compared with all the content you could make with it.
@gregorybills4544
@gregorybills4544 Ай бұрын
Does Andre pick eating establishments the same way?😅😅😅JK enjoy it all!
@mrsteve4313
@mrsteve4313 23 күн бұрын
You should've asked Ian which backseat he preferred to ride in!
@davep2945
@davep2945 Ай бұрын
Another video of two great trucks looking for one great driver.
@EvanRutledge
@EvanRutledge 27 күн бұрын
Probably be a little easier on you if you aired the tires down
@andreloshon3344
@andreloshon3344 Ай бұрын
nice video tfl👍👍👍
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@ddthomas71
@ddthomas71 10 күн бұрын
Guys which is faster between RHO vs Raptor R Baja 2023 model ?
@trumote
@trumote Ай бұрын
For those looking to off-road their RHO, do not buy those steps. Clearly lost several inches of clearance over the rocks. Other than that, sweet truck!
@sduffield1977
@sduffield1977 25 күн бұрын
Raptor has the steps as well. The steps on the RHO sit higher than the skid plates underneath and they help with gravel/rock chips in the paint. If the RHO had the 37s that the Ford does, it wouldn't have scraped the rock at all.
@jimanastasiou1061
@jimanastasiou1061 Ай бұрын
You need to put the ranger raptor with its front diff on those obstacles to see the difference!
@brandonheckert
@brandonheckert Ай бұрын
a new TFL series? Ice road trucker Andre ? 😂
@Nezzer57
@Nezzer57 Ай бұрын
Raptor smashed it. Ground clearance rules off road... 👍
@L.G.productions
@L.G.productions Ай бұрын
Can you guys make a video on can am outlander XMR? That would be sick
@zacharystegman5165
@zacharystegman5165 10 күн бұрын
What about a comparison between the RHO and the Tremor?
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman Ай бұрын
I kinda knew the Ram would do better off road, every one that I have had the past 50 yrs has done better than Fords ✌💖☮
@AmericanSurvival001
@AmericanSurvival001 15 күн бұрын
Dude! And every guy, including myself who’s ever been out in a four-wheel with buddies who own Fords knows this and what happens halfway through the trip as you start seeing them finding excuses to go home or something else they gotta do they don’t wanna be embarrassed any longer and they bow out seen it half a dozen times And the guys who didn’t bow out always say “well I gotta go home and figure out what’s wrong with my truck cause this thing usually rips on the trail and I leave everyone behind but today it didn’t do very well“ lol and I always laugh. Well this is par for the coursefor me in my ram leading. There’s a reason there’s a tow hook on every Ford.
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman
@SquirminHermanthe1eyedGerman 15 күн бұрын
@@AmericanSurvival001 well said man, well said! Theres a reason they are called gurly ford fan bois ESPECIALLY those slowstang drivers
@3rdpig
@3rdpig Ай бұрын
IMO both are overpriced by $30-$40k. And any truck marketed as "off road" needs front and rear lockers or it shouldn't have that badging. And Andrey's problem is he lets off power or hits the brakes every foot or two. As Roman said, "Sometimes you just have to stay in it'. Stellantis is rumored to have a big price drop in the next few weeks, I'd wait until that happens.
@JamesSusanka
@JamesSusanka 25 күн бұрын
the real question is do they have cruise control.
@Themachine052
@Themachine052 Ай бұрын
What mode was the R in?
@TFLoffroad
@TFLoffroad Ай бұрын
Rock crawl
@rickflare6736
@rickflare6736 Ай бұрын
Nice Ram Truck!
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