Truck vs SUV Tow-Off: 2023 Ford Expedition & F-150 Tremor Take on the World's Toughest Towing Test!

[@ib516]

150 grand for a 27 ft trailer!?!?!?! They are out of their minds!!!!

[@markmccarty9793]

Well, I bough mine at the end off October 2020. It was a $30000 camper, got if for 20grand and the trade in they screwed up!! I'm not calling anyone out, but they're a huge dealership on 151 between Charlotte NC and Myrtle Beach! Never looked back!! These huge dealerships ate not guarantee that you want get reamed!! Never looked back! Don't fall for the extended warranty!! It'll cost you $300 for the the inspection!! You'll a $300 colonostrophy!!!

[@billredding2000]

@rustytr Well, if the housing market stays high where the average home prices is approaching $500K (?) -- and mortgage interest rates (~7% now?) as well, which is MORE of an obstacle to home ownership nowadays (for ME anyway) -- then a RV going for "only" $150K will be considered a steal, and people will live in them instead of something brick & mortar. So pricing -- what is considered (now) cheap and what is expensive -- is relative. ;-) -- BR

[@CM-oo3tv]

I think it’s worth it since it will last 20 years whereas your average trailer is made of plywood and poorly constructed

[@destinjacobs9414]

80k truck 150k trailer 230k for a house you can take ANYWHERE ANYTIME....or a house. It depends on what lifestyle you want at the end of the day.

[@duggydo]

Glad Mr Truck is a regular with you on these. 👍👍

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@buelltonman]

I had a 2019 expedition limited and then got a 2022 timberline. I absolutely love the timberline and don’t regret leaving the 2019 behind

[@USA__WILL]

It's a beautiful SUV.

[@ericneal1872]

I would have liked to hear a comparison between the Expedition and the Tahoe that you recently tested. Even if it was just verbal and not directly head to head.

[@Kenopshi-q7c]

There’s a comparison on JB reviews’ channel. Personally, I’ve got an Expedition Max and several trucks. I’d say go for the current-gen Expedition, or maybe wait for the next-gen Tahoe, which could roll out in 2025 with that sweet LZ0 diesel option. Especially if you’re towing a lightweight trailer a lot or cruising on the highway, that LZ0 diesel is the way to go. When I’m towing a 6,000 lbs at 65 mph, the Expedition gets me around 10 MPG, Ram’s doing 9.5 MPG, Ram 3.6 gets about 10 MPG, and the Sierra diesel shines with 18 MPG. The Expedition wins big in terms of interior comfort and upscale feelings (don’t compare it to German luxury brands). Those seats are much more comfortable than GM’s (firm and short in GM trucks)

[@dalejones4322]

I thought, when I saw this video suggested for me, that this video was too long at 42 minutes. It was not. Great video guys. It was super informative and surprising. Just for reference, I had my house built for roughly $130,000 ten years ago. The price of that camper is shocking even in this day and age. Thanks guys

[@1tylerproud]

Can you tow your house through the wilderness?

[@dalejones4322]

@@1tylerproud no I can't.

[@malcolmn.5222]

If you know anything about the Earth Roamer company, they build high quality off roading adventure units

[@blake5089]

2X playback speed is your friend

[@dalejones4322]

@@malcolmn.5222 I would hope they are of the best quality.

[@badgerpa9]

NIce job great info Mr. Truck and Andre. Great job on filming and editing, thanks for not cutting it down to 20 minutes.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@JM-fb4kz]

Finally an IKE run with the coyote!!!! They both seem like great vehicles. Thanks for the video guys!

[@MrTruckTV]

You're welcome

[@sfcjerryharris]

They did a 2016 F150 5.0 years back go check that out

[@coryernewein]

Mr.Truck and his "young" apprentice make mine and my sons mornings😊

[@MrTruckTV]

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[@kkamp0528]

I love Mr truck getting so happy about grade shifting 😂😂😂

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@ArtilleryMagnet]

I have a '21 Max Tow Expedition & it Tows fabulously; the EcoBoost is a Monster. I do use cruise control when towing. My biggest gripe with my Expedition is the Navigation is terrible & I tend to use my phone instead. I am also not a fan of the exhaust noise. Overall I Love how my SUV looks (White, Stealth Edition) and it's perfect for for bringing family & friends along in Style

[@freedomisntfree_44]

Wish they’d offer the 5.0 in the expedition. That ecoboost is a towing monster though

[@damilolaakanni]

Same.

[@mikefoehr235]

Turbos are thirsty when towing.

[@youtubecarspottersguide1]

and the Lincoln navagator

[@jghall00]

​@@mikefoehr235 Price you pay for better performance. These vehicles are expensive, it's not enough of a difference to affect the purchase decision. I get 9 to 10 mpg with my bumper pull. Slightly better mpg doesn't really factor in that much over comfort and performance.

[@Burroughsbikebuilds]

5.0 expedition would sell like hot cakes.

[@keithkiggins2531]

I was forced to trade my Expedition Max Limited recently... watching this makes me sad. I loved that truck so much. I bet the Timberline is a burly bit of fun.

[@davidhillbrand2302]

Great test. Well done Ford.

[@nickfranchini3444]

New idea for The Fast Lane Truck: take old trucks (for example a 1996 Bronco) and run the Ike Gauntlet just so people can appreciate how impressive these new vehicles are. I can tell you as an old truck owner that the idea of pulling a heavy trailer at 11k feet of elevation at more than 30 mph sounds impressive and impossible.

[@nathanmcdonald610]

They kind of did that with Big Green four or five years ago. I'm not sure how long you've been watching TFL but years ago they bought an old square body Chevy with a carbureted 305 V8 and ran it up with IKE with something like 6000lbs behind it. It basically crawled down to a slugs pace and they had to finish out the run in the breakdown lane because they were going so slow. The videos backlogged somewhere on the The Fast Lane Truck channel.

[@dennishilligoss7386]

You make a good comparison wit way to much information

[@andyjones611]

Great video guys. On the Tremor if you take away the sunroof it will give you back 200 pounds of the payload so it ends up being 1712 pounds. That is about the same payload as an F-150 XLT loaded up with the 302 packages. That V8 sounds GOOD but the Ecobeast is a very good engine to tow with also. Cheers!

[@kendallt2020]

ford understands dominance. and when its about performance that where the quick right gear down shift is important.

[@JustinKingOffroad]

gas motors FINALLY able to hold back their towed loads is a game changer in the towing world. my biggest complaint has always been how the trucks just run away.

[@wesshepard]

Mr. truck you are a boss. Andre, you are also a boss. Great video.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@warrenbarnes9653]

Great video! Very informative. If I were to purchase an F150 today, I would get it with the 3.5 liter turbo engine, though I have always loved a V8.

[@302Mustang13]

If someone told me 15 years ago a V6 gas engine would outperform a V8 in the near future, I would have laughed at them. The fuel economy difference towing is really nothing at the pump but the difference in power is very noticeable. Can't really compare any V8 with an aftermarket supercharger or turbo system because I'm talking stock vs stock. I'd prefer a V8 but just for sound. No denying this current 3.5 Ecoboost F-150 with 400 horsepower and 500 lb-ft in standard configuration is impressive.

[@joelassiterhoa9148]

The 3.5 I've owned have been garbage. Quick, good fuel economy, $16k each 70-75k miles to replace after turbos blow through the intake. The 5.0 is simple, brute strength. The 3.5 is forced muscle from an engine 30% smaller. 5.0 is my go-to.

[@302Mustang13]

@@joelassiterhoa9148 Cool story.

[@adammorris7139]

The screen in the expedition looks like an afterthought. The f150 screen is plenty big.

[@Hadouken5150]

Yeah the super large screens in cars is pretty dumb. They’re larger than iPads. Half the screen is used for large buttons…

[@markperry762]

You and Mr. Kent need your own show. My two favorites. Best wishes Boyz.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@AKS-74U]

Finally a 5.0 Tremor test!

[@ericneal1872]

I so badly wish you had brought the Ranger and made it a 4-6-8 challenge. (I think you said the trailer was 7000lbs so OK there. We just won't talk about frontal area). I'm sure the Ranger would come in last place but it would be interesting to see how well half the price and half the engine could do compared to the other two.

[@bryanmathew2079]

i`~beLieve They Have a Seperate Test Vid, & iT Did Very WelL, That 4cyL.

[@louisbarningham]

Im from New Zealand and the Ranger is the best selling vehicle in our country as we have lots of farms, bush and bad roads😊

[@MontysMotos]

Most all trucks have had a manual shift mode for at least the last decade now. You could just stick it in a lower gear both up and downhill to avoid braking and keep your speed constant. These things aren't a real issue when using a truck irl. For comparison sake, however, they have to kind of ignore things that a driver would need to do manually in order to show off the truck and not the driver. Same goes for off-road tests. The interesting takeaway for me is more about the suspension than the engine.

[@malbertproductions]

I bought this timber line two weeks ago. I very much enjoy it. Thanks for sharing. I'll be buying a boat in the next year or so. ☺️

[@Hooner77]

Thanks for this comparison. This is my current dilemma, 3.5 ecoboost vs 5.0 coyote. Get up and go on ecoboost is great and non-towing mpg is better. Because the ecoboost turbos are engaged when towing the mpg is not as good as the V8. looking at my future towing needs I feel I will be spending much more time non-towing so the ecoboost is a good choice. The good news for me is that truck sales are slow. I have a line on a used 2022 F10 XLT with an ecoboost (8k miles) priced at 53k. But they have been trying to sale it at that price for over a month now. I also drove a brand new 2022 F150 XLT with the 5.0 V8. MSRP just over 63K. The dealership said they could get the price down to 55K. I have the feeling there just giving me lip service. I drove that truck 3 weeks ago and it is still sitting at the dealership. The good problem is there is a lot of used F150s with the 3.5 ecoboost motor for sale. The 5.0l is still a rare find. If you're like me and have been putting off buying a new or newer truck the market is much better. This true for GM and Ram as well with a couple of exceptions. In used the GM 6.2 V8 is very rare. So are the 3.0l diesel pickups. Crew cab Ram Rebel pickups still sale quickly, but Quad Cabs sit on the lots for months.

[@sfcjerryharris]

Put turbos on the 5.0😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

What did you get

[@okinawadonkichi]

I really wished Ford offered a larger fuel tank on the Expedition. I hauled my 7,000 lb travel trailer 10,000 miles cross country and for most of it the tank was adequate in relation to when I wanted to take a break. But when I hit the mountains in the Dakotas, Montana, and northern Nevada I really wish that I had another 5 -10 gallons of fuel on board.

[@healingenso7923]

Was just thinking today, how much I love the 400 mile range on my Grand Cherokee (not towing).

[@machfive916]

I initially thought that a 42-minute video would be a little "long in the tooth"; however, I was captivated throughout the entire episode. I am a staunch V-8 lover, even knowing the limitations of power at altitude. The Tremor did a great job, but the transmission could use a little fine tuning to hold the vehicle at speeds when under a significant load such as the Ike challenge. Great video!

[@lanceripplinger8352]

Really good job with this one! That was very interesting seeing how the V6 performed with grade shifting, then how it was the same on the V8. Also interesting to see the power difference between both engines.

[@stevenwright6573]

I know you guys have no choice about what season the manufacturer gives you the truck. I just wish it was summer when you do the Ike tests, because I remember when you did the last HD test in summer and the heat really was an issue when max towing. That exposed a truth that was a hard pill to swallow. The absolute worst case scenario for all 3 brands is the Ike, in summer trying to max tow. It would appear that none of them can adequately cool their motors under these conditions. I would be ecstatic to see TFL Truck and Mr Truck be SINGLEHANDEDLY responsible for pushing the big 3 to upgrade their cooling capabilities to handle this test. We know the motors, the brakes, the transmission, the suspensions can handle this epic torture. The cooling systems are the weak link. I hope to see them all get to the point where they can handle this test. Imagine spending 80 to 100k on a truck, but having to ignore multiple passes around the countries interstate system from May to September because you will overheat while towing. They need to do better.

[@MrTruckTV]

Yes, thanks

[@joe40867]

And that’s why I use manual mode on my 16 f150 with the 5.0 while hauling my 5000lb camper. Going up big hills I like to choose the gears I’m in

[@justingill5256]

Get a 0z omega tune 👌 I get great mpg on hwy with premium towing my camper or not compared to stock tows better for sure and I can run any octane

[@whotf888]

The Coyote V8 is probably the best engine you can get for the F150: 1.: It's got enough power to tow what it's legally allowed. 2.: From what I've read on forums, and what I've heard from Ford technicians, it offers the best power-to-reliability ratio. 3.: it sounds amazing (4.: it's got great aftermarket support and plenty of tuning potential)

[@sfcjerryharris]

I know mines tuned

[@philguzman6932]

You should do a payload Ike on the 250/2500 and 350/3500 trucks.

[@grootgaming2461]

I dont know if its possible but could you guys do an ike on the jeep wagoneer?

[@JanBartos24]

Damn, such a great video! Great breakfast entertainment on Saturday morning!

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@anthonysourdiff1835]

Great video guys. Keep them coming

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@shaneolsen9394]

Watching the f150 jump around between gears and fluctuating between 55mph and 60mph is exactly why you shouldn't use cruise control while towing on a grade.

[@desertfresh3740]

Worked just fine in the Expedition.

[@JohnDiMartino]

The engine was maxed out and in those severe conditions you definitely are better off not using cruise . The expedition was just loafing along the 3.5 is in a different league than the 5.0 it’s twice the engine for pulling the torque curve is night and day better.

[@shaneolsen9394]

@@desertfresh3740 note I said the f150

[@markmccarty9793]

Yea, you would think they would know that!

[@carculturenation2166]

​@@shaneolsen9394 same transmission which means its more about programming. Same Deal with the 10r80 in the mustang they cant keep a gear for the life of them and they jump gears differently all the time. Add a boost or tune to any of these including the mustang and they become even a more pile of of crap. Guys that add power would rather have the 6speed auto in fact you send the 10speed autos in to be builr they have been removing gears for the true racers. 5.0f150 and mustangs can make up to 1200whp with just boost and fuel with built transmission f150s have ran 8s in the 1/4 mile and Mustangs 7s in the 1/4 mile. Thats stock sealed coyote no heads no cams no pistons no rods no opening the engine unless you want to go built motor which then you can make up to 2000hp on factory block. For long-term 5.0 is the only way to go and you always know you can add a turbo or supercharger for 7 to 10 grandand make as much power as you wand from a awesome dailywith 750whp up to the 950 to 1000whp

[@ddkk17045]

MR Truck is a National Treasure!

[@GreenMountain565]

He is indeed! Would love to see more of him with the TFL gang like in the old days.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@Steve-yr5vi]

I drove a 4Runner to Snowmass recently; it shifted down to 3rd as well on that descent. Do you guys ever drive on to Glenwood Springs? Driving through Glenwood canyon would illustrate a vehicle's ability to deal with high winds & maintain control on turns; I found driving that canyon more unnerving than driving up or down the continental divide through the Eisenhower. I love the 5.0; however I was hoping they'd put the 6.8 in the Tremor.

[@the_jarmel]

👏👏👏 THANKS AGAIN FOR ANOTHER ENTERTAINING SATURDAY.....HAVE A BEAUTIFUL DAY EVERYONE ✌️...

[@ebnhahn1993]

Very Informative and entertaining!. Thank You Fellows👍👍

[@MrTruckTV]

You're welcome

[@computer1166]

I love your videos and it would be great watching you drive low trim brand new trucks towing trailers or stuffs like few years ago. Keep driving folks

[@rod7307]

That heavy of a trailer, a weight distribution system should be used. It would help out with squat as it distributes some of the tongue weight up front.

[@RealMrNails]

Time for CO to do some line painting!

[@USA__WILL]

It doesn't last long do to the snow and salt in the winter.

[@Ledge-rg3lt]

I’m curious now that you have the Banks I dash if you could tell us the transmission temps at the end of the runs also, that would be a great indicator if the truck can really handle the run, overheating your transmission in my opinion means it can’t handle the run.

[@Silverback_GMT410]

I absolutely love rack on trucks and vehicles in general. I hate leveled trucks due to the squatting they do with some weight in the back.

[@scottyellis3442]

Love watching these towing test but last week Roman and Tommy dragged raced that Tremor & the new sporty Chevrolet Tahoe, I want to see them dragg race that same Tahoe against that Expedition, and I'd bet money the Expedition will eat the Tahoe in any way they want to run.

[@csrboltfan2643]

I'm a Ford fan and would LOVE to own a Ford truck, but I don't have much use for one. ............because I'm an SUV guy and have owned an Explorer and three Expeditions !!! I LOVE SUV's !! My son asked me several times why I don't buy a P/U truck and here's what I tell him. BTW, he drives a P/U truck. 1. I can put ALL my fishing gear INSIDE my Expedition and lock it up. It's not bouncing around in a truck bed and getting damaged. (Yes, I know there are rod holders available) 2. I can carry more people in my SUV. 3. When I lock stuff inside my truck, it's ALL protected by alarm vs. having a lockable bed covering. 4. I can carry longer boards INSIDE my SUV than he can fit in the bed of his truck. 5. I have NEVER once squealed or smoked my tires pulling my boat out of the water (and I'm only a 2x4, regular wheel base). 6. I can carry a LOT of things inside my SUV and not worry about any of it getting wet, flying away, or getting damaged. I could go on, but I think you get the gist of it. I get more use out of my Expedition that I ever could from a P/U truck. Again, don't misunderstand, I love Ford trucks and would love to own one, but the Expedition is just a much better option for me. Anybody else ?

[@joshpeck443]

I wish they would measure the lift at the front axle to. At the end of the video you can see that the F150 didn’t only squat, but the gap above the front tire grew as well

[@billb6606]

If the truck did not squat you would be bichtin about the rough ride when empty.

[@jwdeff]

That's why F-150s are only rated to tow 5,000lbs without a weight distributing hitch. The towing setup they used was way out of spec.

[@joshpeck443]

@@billb6606 What does that have to do with the distance the front lifted up?

[@billb6606]

@@joshpeck443 That has nothing to do with the front. Everybody thinks squat is a bad thing.

[@KeepYourSWORDInYourHand]

​@@jwdeff You're wrong, that is for base model trucks without tow packages.

[@cooldude50c91]

Love these Ike Gauntlet videos! Hope to see you guys test the new 2023 Toyota Sequoia soon!

[@kingpin3919]

Great video as always fellas 👌

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@bryanmesser7098]

Great test now let’s see them both Off-road 👀

[@slmjake]

I don't care for those humongous screens in vehicles these days. Looks like they glued a laptop to the dash board!

[@Pesmog]

Some versions of the new Ford Ranger have a similar screen. I would much rather have something smaller that looks more integrated.

[@mikefoehr235]

Truth

[@Max-nb6hf]

The screen in the F150 is literally integrated

[@Dusdaddy]

I also dislike the large vertical screen. Especially the ones that stick up above the top of the dash. It's what the people want though because they sell like crazy.

[@RyeitOut]

I agree. I would think the hot sun ☀️ will harm it in someway.

[@nevillemcnaughton6306]

In the F150 you can limit the gear range for towing and cruise will maintain the speed. Would also be good to see the boost Guage when you towing. Max torque on the ecoboost is around 3000 rpm.

[@Steve-yr5vi]

exactly; I like what these guys do; however they don't really know the trucks and use features that an owner would likely know. For example they often knock the F150 for he location of the safety chain loops, I can attach the safety chain to them without even looking.

[@sedricklewiz9904]

The 5.0 is a high revving motor with it shifting at 7k 7200 rpm

[@jghall00]

It has to rev to make power since it's NA.

[@techs1smh13]

Overhead cams

[@wesmullennix3495]

Ecoboost killed it imo and you can haul the family

[@sfcjerryharris]

Put turbo on the coyote

[@aslkdfjhg]

The engine wear during high rpm descents is an interesting one. Nothing is generating much friction and heat to wear anything substantially. The pulleys on the serpentine belt have bearings, and the engine is oiled and water-cooled. A big risk is much older trucks with cast iron oil pumps. The centripetal force can rip them apart and cause engine failure. A modern alloy engine won't have that trouble, especially since the autos won't allow an engine to overspeed and risk valve float.

[@frankmartin1325]

Did you use standard cruise control or the adaptive cruise control? For brake application count, the ACC might use the brakes when the engine compression can't keep up...

[@cullinan18]

Please run the Expedition thru the course at your ranch!

[@wwz1011]

I always say down is more important than up. I can always go uphill slower if needed. But if the brakes fade on the downhill, watch out!

[@elywalton7147]

I may have missed it, but did you engage tow/haul mode in the Expedition? TIA

[@jwdeff]

I think that happens automatically when you attach a trailer.

[@benjaminmorse9263]

Is there any way you guys could an offroad comparison of the tremor and raptor.

[@Chris-ut6eq]

I did like the cruise control test. The gear seeking of the coyote was a bit of a surprise. Manually putting it in 4th might have been better, but we will never know. Also it was only 7000lbs but did have a big frontal area.

[@ILOVEBACONBOY2018]

Awesome content!

[@zacariaspiedrasdelrio8984]

Sometimes i tease André specially when he is competing with the other guys but he is without doubts the new Mr Truck and I appreciate his work 😊

[@MrTruckTV]

Yes he is

[@Erik-jp7kk]

You mentioned they came out with a newsletter or something about a transmission programming update? Can you talk more about this? I can’t find it. Can a 2021 f150 get this, over the air?

[@marksman4004]

I hope Chase doesn't feel bad that everyone wanted to see Mr. Truck on the ike more than him.

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Kase?

[@marksman4004]

@@jamesbeaman6337 yes.

[@marksman4004]

@@jamesbeaman6337 auto correct kicked in.

[@tfeltmat2903]

Forced Induction always excels at altitude. If you're regularly at high altitude then that is a very good choice if you need the performance.

[@brandonmcfarland5200]

If You Do Heavy Towing,Climbing 🧗‍♂️ Up The Hill /Mountain,Cruise Control Is Very Important For Speed Limit Sign,Safety.

[@donnadieckmann9822]

Hope you can answer a question regarding the mirrors. Noticed these are not tow mirrors I believe these are the 360 stock mirrors. In your opinion do you think they work as well as the tow extended mirrors?

[@andrewalaska]

About the air density and the towing rating reducing even on a turbo engine- sure the turbo can make the same power, but there's less air going through the radiator so cooling can become an issue. You're burning 15 GPH of fuel towing up these hills- that would be enough to heat 30 Alaska homes. A lot of heat to dissipate.

[@sfcjerryharris]

I know I’m in Florida. It hit 104 last week and if you drive like me, turbos get hot quicker. My 5.0 never runs hot pulling 5000 lbs

[@1081537]

Minute 4:51 says that autonomy with half tank is 84 miles for the expedition, wtf?? that’s too low, how many gallons can the expedition hold?

[@michaelfritts9839]

I have a C-Max and cruise control behaves the exact same way, it drops down 4-5 MPH then kicks in the engine or shifts to catch up. It's really frustrating. I thought it was just a hybrid issue, but looks like it might be a Ford cruise control issue. Never had that issue with my Chrysler 300 (RIP).

[@hoppy760]

The mpg was better with the V8. Surprising. What’s the mpg for both without a trailer?

[@Cortezuma]

Ecoboost should have better mileage unladen but worse mileage while towing. Turbos are thirsty when they’re putting in work.

[@stevengiordano1490]

Andre, we KNOW Diesels ate more efficient at towing vs a gas truck but how much? Would be cool to see identical trucks, max loads 1 gas 1 diesel on a towing loop

[@sfcjerryharris]

They did that already years back

[@sfcjerryharris]

F150 gas vs F250 Diesel

[@ProjectAjax]

ANDRE! Can you do a comparison between a F150 3.5 Max Tow Paxkage vs F250 6.8L or 7.3L on the Ike ? Wanna know Gas vs Gas

[@waynekeizer5720]

Andre keeps saying you can go to the app to find out towing info and stuff….. where is that at cause ive looked in the ford pass app and i dont see it.

[@michaelgallagher4849]

Would like to see the expedition XL to remove that wheel base disparity. Also the expedition weighs 500lbs more, that could also explain the mpg difference

[@EMdoc12]

Max tow capacity and hit weight are listed on a sticker on the hitch itself!! Just gotta stick your head under to see it.

[@brandonshehow]

The tow rating on my expedition was actually located on the bottom of the hitch which I always found weird

[@JsGarage]

Ecoboost is a better tow engine but man the coyote is in a good place atm. Sounds great reving to the moon as well.

[@jeremyhorn8735]

Love to see the new 6.7 high output on the Ike

[@andyharman3022]

Things just go better with BOOST!

[@deotwell43]

Do this again next year with the Powerboost in both vehicles.

[@deonstrydom7173]

Great video as always. The downhills were simply excellent in both vehicles. I liked the comments from Mr Truck regarding the tremors in the mountain. 😂

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@jamestucker7513]

Great video. With the tremor and cruise I would limit the gear so it would hold it

[@TFLtruck]

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[@damiangutierrez9103]

It's fun to watch Mr. Truck.

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@kylesummers1565]

Lol, I would never use cruise going over a pass. Did you put it in tow mode? Peace, Love!!

[@mscottlawrence2037]

What's going on guys, mr truck you look different buddy, great comparison thank you as always

[@MrTruckTV]

Thanks

[@machine7767]

You made a comment about the expedition being derated at altitude even though it has turbos. How much power is lost at 10,00 feet?

[@302Mustang13]

It would be cool if they could provide an under hood camera on these Ike Gauntlet runs.

[@sfcjerryharris]

Melt it

[@antonlagervall1]

interesting video. I think it's good that you drive with cruse contol when you do tests because then the car can think for itself and put itself in the right gear to get up the mountain.I also think most drivers use cruise control when they drive.I do it anyway when I drive a truck and go up steep slopes or mountains.

[@Ryan-719]

Crazy 20psi of boost at 2000 rpm hahah

[@LukeEdward]

1600lb rating for the Expedition, until you put 8 people in those 8 seats….

[@josephina24]

Since it doesn't have a bed, that makes sense. Built for big American families lol

[@shaneolsen9394]

I've been saying that for years. They need to remake the excursion with 3 bench seats. I want the ability to care 9 grown adults and still tow 15k. Today 1 tons have the capability but 1/2 tons just don't have the payload to be full of people and still tow a decent weight

[@therealjohnsmith4811]

@working_country ___ Twice annual salary? Where do you work, McDonalds? An XL starts at $55k and an XLT $59k.

[@BIGMEME_Retro.trance]

​@working_country ___ I own a rust free version of that exact expedition, best thing I've bought for less than 5k

[@shitloveaduck]

@Luke Edward - it’s 1600 so you CAN have 8 people. A lot of vehicles out there have 8 person seating capacities with less than 1400 lbs, even less than 1200 lbs. for a fully loaded full size SUV, it really is a very good, adequate payload.

[@vancity_coaster]

I’m pretty sure the tremor 5.0 is almost the dream ford truck but, I heard cylinder deactivation is on them now?

[@kylemelcher894]

Yes, they go from 8 to 4 cylinders on the highway. Not nearly as complicated as GM’s AFM algorithm which has 17 different combinations of deactivating cylinders, however.

[@slmjake]

Love you guys together! You two act like an old married couple lol! Argue!

[@the305hauler]

Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇸 I want the expedition timberline and a 5.0 Rattler

[@B-Rob-777]

Love watching these. Wished the Expedition has the V8 option

[@B-Rob-777]

@@westibbs yeah but you lose some legroom and no extended length option

[@mclroy]

You did a very fair evaluation of the rigs guys. As always the team you do guys add a touch of lightness in watching the video.