I have a 1500 Silverado with 3.0 Dmax , absolutely love the truck!!! Average for a year hauling enclosed race car trailer , open car trailer and city driving, 21mpg @ 27k miles. Amazing 👏
@T_O_Negative2 жыл бұрын
shit that's amazing 🤨🧐 my accord gets that 🤦🏾
@chrisd5383 Жыл бұрын
Any issues on the LM2?
@RothBalloon3 жыл бұрын
That’s a huge difference in fuel economy. You can not just look at the numbers and say it’s close. Doing the math, the Suburban was 27.3% more efficient on that loop.
@andyharman30223 жыл бұрын
Or the Sequoia was 20% less efficient.
@RothBalloon3 жыл бұрын
@@andyharman3022 I’m sure the Suburban/Tahoe can be had with the diesel or gas engine for cheaper. The difference in assumed unreliability will be offset by the comparatively high cost of fuel owning the Sequoia. I get your point though, you’re gonna pay somewhere. So buy what you like and enjoy it.
@Jaimeleon203 жыл бұрын
The sequoia has 104 hp more and 59Lbft torq less 5.7 and 6 speed is also tried and true since 2007 I’d take the sequoia over suburban
@MrJcjet3 жыл бұрын
The suburban engine has to be pulled at 150k for the oil pump belt replacement. Ouch. Better get a LOT of fuel savings to pay for the $3k + belt replacement every 150k plus all of the diesel maintenance and repairs. GM had a great design and basically ruined it with the oil pump belt that requires the engine out or the transmission dropped to replace. I'm actually kinda surprised how close the mpg is given how old the Sequoia is.
@TXBlackKnight883 жыл бұрын
Diesel fuel is also another 10-15% higher in price than regular gas. Once you include the Diesel engine upgrade costs, DEF consumption, & other increased consumable costs small displacement diesels are hard to overcome the perceived “cost savings."
@atvseatexchange21763 жыл бұрын
Smirnoff Topoff, Andre you know that would be a tee shirt logo.
@ryanrobertson54573 жыл бұрын
As the owner of a 3.0L Duramax, the hand calculated MPG is always better than the trip computer. Always a nice surprise when you do the math. 🙂
@regsparkes65073 жыл бұрын
I was betting ( and hoping ) that the Suburban / Duramax would be the winner here. Thumbs up!
@jameskwak31983 жыл бұрын
rented a suburban on vacation and loved it was hands down the smoothest riding vehicle ive ever ridden in found myself blasting over speed bumps trying to unsettle the suspension but just soaked it up im a fan to say the least
@sothickitssickk3 жыл бұрын
Asian.
@jeepindave54643 жыл бұрын
The new independent suspension or the older solid rear axle?
@jameskwak31983 жыл бұрын
@@jeepindave5464 was in 2019 and it was brand new so not sure but probably had solid rear axle but man they did there homework with it had 8 people in it rode nice empty.or.loaded made my 2015 high country silverado feel like a clapped out p.o.s. gonna buy one when im done with my truck
@jeepindave54643 жыл бұрын
@@jameskwak3198 lol. Well a truck will be a truck. I want an expedition max with the ecoboost
@jameskwak31983 жыл бұрын
@@jeepindave5464 rented one of those on a trip in california had great power decent mileage was comfortable as well but comparing last generations the suburbans ride was amazing..power and mileage wise my 6.2 silverado accelerates better and gets better mileqge than both of them.
@alanburleigh76963 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using the weight distributing hitch on the Suburban with air suspension. So many people out there think because they have an air suspension it's not needed
@TheJmatagi3 жыл бұрын
I have been wondering about how that is done. Usually put my distribution bars on before weight. It looks like they do it after how does that work out? Wouldn’t the distribution bars have little to no weight on them?
@jboyle963 жыл бұрын
I have 2021 Silverado with the 3.0 and pull a 20' enclosed trailer. I don't necessarily need the weight distribution for my setup but the sway control is a huge help. His hitch, and mine, have the bars supported by brackets and not chains which is amazing for keeping the trailer straight.
@geoffmooregm3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJmatagi You go by the fender height on the front. If you have the bars set right the front should be at the same ride height unloaded vs loaded. Once you know where you like to be then you hook up the same each time. On my trailer I know on my bars it's 3 links loose with no fresh water. 4 links loose with water.
@davidrichardson67493 жыл бұрын
Aren’t full-size Toyota trucks and suvs of the last 15 or so years known to get the worst gas mileage around? That’s fine if they’re simple, old school and reliable.
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
If you can afford the Sequioa, you can afford the petrol.
@dennissmith72143 жыл бұрын
@@youarerightboss Not actually true😒, if you’re someone who’s just trying to get into a step above what you could really be in then you want to take into account gas mileage..........and that’s 20% worse than the Chevy, counts a lot when you have kids. This is not a Lamborghini purchase where you can say that phrase! 🤷🏽♂️
@Tylnorton3 жыл бұрын
Yes and Toyota plans on doing something about it because they're not happy their larger SUVs and Tundra are being outperformed by other manufacturers with their low mpg. They plan on making a V6 twin turbo hybrid that they have supposedly been working on for quite some time and they expect big numbers.
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
@@dennissmith7214, shouldn't live beyond your means. Prior to purchasing any entity, you should perform your due diligence by reviewing your monthly income statement and attempt to remain in the black with residual cash on hand at the conclusion of each month. If you need capacity and can't afford all facets of owning a new vehicle, then buy used.
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
@@Tylnorton, a twin turbo V-6 or any turbocharged engine will add more stress to said engine and shorten the life of that applicable engine. Not to mention the exorbitant expenses of repairing turbos and their stressed engines. Just look at all of the issues that Ford is having with their Ecoboost powerplants. Give me a V-8 any day of the annum for sound power/torque, reliability, durability and longevity. There's no replacement for displacement.
@TowPiglet3 жыл бұрын
80 grand for the suburban 😱
@dotheroar25243 жыл бұрын
Facts
@dotheroar25243 жыл бұрын
I’d just get the Denali at that price
@agent_bedrock58443 жыл бұрын
Remember two piglet, you can get a suburban for a much more reasonable price
@private65493 жыл бұрын
For that particular trim and options, yes. A lower end model is around 59 grand or under for the diesel one which isn't all that expensive for a full-sized body on frame SUV. If you don't like that there is the Tahoe for about 5k less starting price albeit shorter and less cargo room but still plenty roomy. The Sequoia is only cheaper newer because it is made cheaper and is heavily outdated.
@Z23571113193 жыл бұрын
Sure, but its resale after you put 100K on it is going to be high, go look at 5 year old ones with 100K and they go for almost $30K, it's still a good price for what you are getting and also keep in mind the age of the cheap vehicle is over.
@anthonyc18833 жыл бұрын
Wish Andre had made even a brief comment in the power department of these substantially different engines, specifically in terms of highway merging effort, passing ease, etc.
@mikefoehr2353 жыл бұрын
I have a Tundra now for 6 months. I tow a 5000 lb RV and the 5.7 is no dog. It can get up and go pretty quick in TOW HAUL MODE and it is better on fuel than towing with my Tacoma i used to have.
@brianfinn76443 жыл бұрын
In terms of towing the Tundra should be better towing but overall mpgs no way. I hate my 2020 Tacoma but it gets 22mpgs. My Tundra never beat 18 and averaged 16.5. My new Ford is fine. I miss the v8 growl and the get up but here in the people’s republic of Ca they are hoping for $4.50 gas soon....
@Hemidakota Жыл бұрын
@@brianfinn7644 why I went to the Ram Ecodiesel vice Tundra or the Tacoma. MPG and tow in Cali.
@themightymrpink3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading a real world towing test with both of these trucks! I’d be down to seeing y’all test the Suburban diesel on the Ike Gauntlet!
@alexbradley58352 жыл бұрын
Gauntlet run for the win
@gregdavis37233 жыл бұрын
Andre, do the same test with your new F-150 hybrid and see how it does.
@joshuarodrique20963 жыл бұрын
Look at 5:21 and 10:14 That should tell you everything you need to know. The Suburban has no squat, and is in near perfect alignment, but the Sequoia is squatted and bowed out like an overloaded minivan.
@MrJcjet3 жыл бұрын
They didn't use comparable models. They had the air suspension suburban but not the air suspension on the Sequoia (it's available). With the air suspension Sequoia it's identical. So if you think that tells you anything, you're not really paying attention.
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
Yet, the Sequioa will outperform and outlast that shitty gm jalopy.
@csh0003 жыл бұрын
Not true. Minivans have higher payload ratings. 😄
@MrOiram46 Жыл бұрын
@@csh000 Nah, minivans can only tow from 3,600 lbs to 5,000lbs at most, they’re great for giving more people rides, but if you want to tow more with a van, you’ll need a full-size/cargo van.
@hcrffi3 жыл бұрын
Next time, can you guys do the comparison test of Chevy Suburban Gas vs Chevy Suburban Diesel?! Makes more sense.
@lordofwar96383 жыл бұрын
Diesel would be better for towing, that’s a given. Would be nice to see still though.
@courtneyanderson22933 жыл бұрын
10 mpg and 14 mpg.
@dh-dd6cy3 жыл бұрын
It used to be diesels were much more reliable than gas motors. But I'd bet good money on that Toyota V8 lasting longer than that Italian I6 diesel now.
@2K9s Жыл бұрын
Emissions are doing diesel like the caa did to gas in 1970.
@redman37413 жыл бұрын
That was a very good comparison video. Keep up the good work Andre and TFL!
@ryanhessler89663 жыл бұрын
The truck you pointed to at 9:36 with the grader, I've loaded him with bridges several times. Awesome guy
@nicholashosslogan34443 жыл бұрын
Also that semi with grader is probably getting 4 to 6mpg at best andre, hence why us truck drivers have dual tanks that cost $700.000 + to fill-up
@jameybeem82613 жыл бұрын
How did they compare seat of the pants power wise? I love these very usable tests!
@anthonyc18833 жыл бұрын
Wondering same.
@brandonpittman52433 жыл бұрын
These vehicle prices are through the roof
@chrisdemas82463 жыл бұрын
That diesel gets the same mpg towing that trailer as my 04 Tahoe gets empty!
@firebry233 жыл бұрын
You need to do a longer loop atleast 100 miles
@adventuresinreality26453 жыл бұрын
14 mpgs---- that's what my excursion gets on the hwy empty 😀 LOL
@JW--dc8ri3 жыл бұрын
Do you have the diesel or v10 gas?
@Saint-Bedo3 жыл бұрын
@@JW--dc8ri asking the real question
@adventuresinreality26453 жыл бұрын
@@JW--dc8ri v10. Way less expensive for everything but fuel economy.
@michaelstringer18403 жыл бұрын
That's what I believe my international scout gets but down hill.....costing with a good breeze but it's about smiles per gallons or what I tell myself.
@WhoThisGuy5153 жыл бұрын
@@adventuresinreality2645 i also got 14 mpg with my v10 excursion unloaded at 65. Put an empty 2500# car trailer behind it and got 13mpg at 65. them put about 9700# behind it and got 8mpg on the way back doing 55-60 which to me seemed pretty good.
@machfive9163 жыл бұрын
Very good mileage on the Toyota, especially with 4.30 gears. I just towed a 5400 lb/26' Micro Lite travel trailer for 175 miles on flat land (Louisiana) on interstate 10 at 63 MPH and got 9.3 MPG with a 2020 Silverado 1500 4x4 crew cab with max trailering package, 5.3 L V-8 and 3.42 gears.
@remsterx3 жыл бұрын
Not bad. I got 16.2 mpg when I moved across country in december with my 15 ram ecodiesel with 3.92 gears. I had 600 lbs in the bed and was towing 7000lbs.
@dennistraynor60773 жыл бұрын
I get 9.5 to 10 towing the same trailer (MiniLite 2511) at 63 mph with my 6.2L Yukon Denali
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
Andre and the gang, thank You for the aforementioned comparable.
@joro3533 жыл бұрын
Diesel always wins. It's not even up for debate. Diesel likes towing. Try claiming a mountain with these two and see what happens... vortex in the gas tank.
@JeremyGSU20113 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see this comparison with a 5.3 Suburban. Most people aren’t going to buy the diesel version. My guess is that gas mileage is going to be a lot closer.
@lancecorporal98947 ай бұрын
I own one and no the mileage is nowhere near 14mpg. I tow a 4500 trailer at 60 and get around 12mpg
@kyleinman80173 жыл бұрын
If he only knew the trailer jack handle locks together so you can crank quickly with one hand....
@jameskwak31983 жыл бұрын
well us truckers are aware fun to watch the inexperienced though!
@canucktheory32713 жыл бұрын
That Sequoia looks a decade older than the new Chevy twins.
@imnotusingmyrealname45663 жыл бұрын
The Sequoia also needs the 38 gallon tank.
@DaddyDan773 жыл бұрын
yup that was part of the real story here. I had a 2nd gen Highlander and it's 18 gallon tank was dinky IMHO. Giving only 8 additional gallons of fuel capacity is silly. But then I'm someone who thinks the "extended range" tanks available on most pickup trucks ought to be the standard size tank.
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
The Sequioa will last decades, while the gm will be scrap metal and razor blades.
@cesarquezada9253 жыл бұрын
I seen someone trying to do that but it will need a Lift of 2.5 inch and widen the rear by 1.6 inch to accommodate that tank I really don’t know if that’s accurate but tell if I’m wrong about this
@logdon173 жыл бұрын
And and all new interior, exterior, and drive-train.....
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
@@logdon17, the aforementioned drivetrain is tried and true, along with being bulletproof. An 8 speed transmission would yield a nominal increase in MPG, though. If they took the interior of the Land Cruiser and integrated it into the Sequioa, that would be ideal. I do like the masculine exterior of the Sequioa, though. It should look utilitarian instead of like a soccer mom vehicle.
@vinnyduncan33423 жыл бұрын
I expected the Sequoia to be a little worse and the diesel Burb to be a little better. Still a solid victory for the Chevy.
@Hemidakota Жыл бұрын
Considering the weight factor is on the Chevy versus Toyota, no surprise. Whether it is a 4x4 or 4x2 is another huge difference in the MPG factor. The correct comparison would have been a Tahoe versus Sequoia. However, this was an eye opener in seeing the results. Excellent video.
@DadsDomain3 жыл бұрын
I have a Sequoia and a Tundra both with the 5.7. Similar drivetrain but the rear axles are diff. Tundra solid axle and the Sequoia is independent for a better ride. BUT the Sequoia only holds about 1.5 quarts of diff fluid where the Tundra holds over 4. If you tow a lot with the Sequoia be sure to keep up on changing your fluid. Toyota makes it super easy, fill and a drain plug. No reason to pay for it to be done
@HoneyBadgerFarm3 жыл бұрын
the sequoia just looks uncomfortable towing that much weight
@greatone23273 жыл бұрын
How
@eazy11443 жыл бұрын
@@greatone2327 look at how much it squatted when they put the trailer on. The Chevy didn’t squat at all due to the Air Suspension.
@csh0003 жыл бұрын
1200 lbs payload will do that. Just imagine taking the wife and kids while towing. 😬
@jeffzaharis37713 жыл бұрын
Sequioa platinum has adjustable air suspension too
@eazy11443 жыл бұрын
@@jeffzaharis3771 well, their system must be shitty in comparison to Chevy’s. An SUV with Air suspension shouldn’t squat that much.
@candykid51353 жыл бұрын
regarding towing, both are equally powerful
@jarotex3 жыл бұрын
Of course. Duramax magic baby!
@dh-dd6cy3 жыл бұрын
Does adaptive cruise control automatically adjust follow distance when towing a heavy (relatively) trailer? Is there a safe following distance for a needed emergency stop?
@2000jeepxj93 жыл бұрын
I have a 19 Tundra (same Toyota safety sense) pull a TT with it and yes it does still work. You still have all 3 distance setting I leave mine at furthest away. The adaptive cruise also his the trailer brakes when the system brakes.
@mikefoehr2353 жыл бұрын
Word of caution....I am a huge Toyota fan BUT Toyota needs to add a heating element to the Logo because frost will render the cruise inoperable AND also the logo needs a sprayer nozzle because salt and dirt will also render adaptive cruise inoperable.
@2000jeepxj93 жыл бұрын
@@mikefoehr235 I have not had this be an issue but then again I don't use cruise control in any inclement weather was always taught not to. Only to use cruise on dry pavement not even in the rain.
@79BigGun3 жыл бұрын
TFL ... love you guys ... but Please! Compare Apples to Apples. Sequoia vs gas Tahoe or Yukon - ok, we have something to compare. I didn’t even need to watch this video to know there’d be a considerable amount of difference between the two. I’m always interested to generally watch auto videos, but if folks are trying to see where they should consider or purchase this or that, then I feel the vehicles should match. No different then you comparing towing capes of that Taco vs let’s say a gas or diesel 1500 series truck. Just my 2 cents.
@tylerwalk76993 жыл бұрын
So what is there to test against the Tahoe diesel? Nothing, because nothing else has a diesel.
@monkeyCmonkeyDoo3 жыл бұрын
@@tylerwalk7699 maybe a gas powered Suburban? Are you dense or what?
@tylerwalk76993 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyCmonkeyDoo no, not at all. There’s nothing to compare the diesel Tahoe and GM SUV’s to. Other than half ton diesel trucks. Yes I do believe gas vs gas in this circumstance is more appropriate, but it would be kind of silly to not showcase the diesel at all.
@79BigGun3 жыл бұрын
@@gary4508 I can appreciate they are in the same class for third row, box on frame SUVs, but there are significant and obvious differences. The car maker (Chevrolet) even segregates the categories - hence why they label one a Tahoe and the other Suburban. I can only see this as a means to showcase the “Legendary” diesel Suburban and its capabilities. For a model that hasn’t been altered much since 2008 (Sequoia), I’m surprised they reserved the title of “Legendary” for the Suburban and not the Sequoia. Hmmmm, I wonder what the community feels the Suburban is “Legendary” for?
@samiaziz26653 жыл бұрын
@@79BigGun oldest name plate in the world baby. The King of the Large SUV’s it’s first year was in 1933 that’s why it’s legendary. Every family that had one in our neighborhood in the suburbs of chicago lovey their suburban. All the family trips camping and fishing. Man the good old days
@nxtgen2b4163 жыл бұрын
It's a shame Toyota doesn't offer their diesel options in North America!
@TruckerMike0893 жыл бұрын
I agree, I wish they would
@gilwolf75563 жыл бұрын
Should we take in consideration the cost of DEF ?? Having a Tuareg TDI before I did see pretty substantial increase in DEF when towing.
@OneNation_SpeakTruth3 жыл бұрын
Exactly the comment I was looking for. DEF while loaded is going to reduce that mpg perhaps even by -1 mpg
@specialestness Жыл бұрын
Before I bought my 3l Duramax I calculated the cost vs a gasser. I guesstimated based off previous diesel vehicle ownership that I’d use $28 or so worth of def every 4,000 miles. When I calculated it out I figured how far I could go on $100. I knew it was gonna be around 500 miles so I took $3.50 off for the def on the diesel. At current cost by me($4.24/gal) assuming I got 24 mpg(I actually avg. higher) I could go 546 miles. In my previous 5.3 I always averaged around 17.5 mpg and the newer generations have only gotten worse. So at the current $3.30 for regular, I could do 530 miles in the gasser. They’re very similar, but the diesel to me drives like an absolute dream.
@Borp563 жыл бұрын
The Sequoia looks like it's from North Carolina with that sag lol.
@pauliecopez26833 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the 3mpg difference would offset the added diesel maintenance.
@arbiter13 жыл бұрын
3 to as much as 10. you likely aren't gonna be towing a 7k trailer all day every day.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk3 жыл бұрын
I barely get 23 mpg out of my 3.0 duramax.
@OneNation_SpeakTruth3 жыл бұрын
Plus def
@Dekkar43 жыл бұрын
@@ryan7684 there two types of HD diesel guys, 1. That tows and the other to make a statement, when you tow, you can’t have it any other way besides diesel, and when you make a statement, not only you save money on fuel, but you’ll also get your money back when you sell it.
@Dekkar43 жыл бұрын
@@ryan7684 I agree that a lot off fleets are switching to gas, and most were gassers anyway. The problem with new ones is emissions, but again, when you tow 15K+ day in and day out, you gonna get a diesel. 06 LBZ with around 200k miles, worth about 8k more then 6.0 gasser with same miles, that’s when you take advantage of a diesel and return your money when you sell it.
@keananfischer81133 жыл бұрын
No empty loop for the sequoia? I keep waiting for you guys to test the 2021 sequoia and tundra on unloaded mpg loops. Any info I find usually dont help because everyone has huge wheels or jacked up trucks they record.
@JeremyGSU20113 жыл бұрын
I had a ‘16 Crewmax SR5 4x4 Tundra for several years. If you cruised on the highway at 80 you would get about 16mpg. 75 = 17 70 = 18 I had an ‘11 Crewmax 2wd before that. It would bet you about 1mpg better. This was in the Southeast. Florida/Georgia driving.
@dustintunis93473 жыл бұрын
Andre - The handle of the trailer slides around the shaft so you don't have to hold the bend in it to crank it. You might have to hold the shaft to keep from putting it in low speed of it has 2 speeds like a semi trailer landing gear.
@LukeEdward3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting A WHILE to see this.
@theinternets75163 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's different for the suburban but in my navigator it states to park on level ground and turn off the air suspension before hooking up the weight distribution hitch. Hook it up to where the top of the front fender well is within an inch of where it is when there is no trailer hooked up and then turn the air suspension back on.
@theinternets75163 жыл бұрын
This Suburban gets the same mpg towing 7,000 pounds as my 2011 navigator averages with about 75% highway driving.
@caleblee48563 жыл бұрын
Dang those both look amazing
@palaciosfam.50033 жыл бұрын
Can you guys compare diesel suburban with the gas one?
@jimhenry71733 жыл бұрын
I have currently a 2014 Acura RDX. I never get better than 21 to 22 mpg in Houston traffic. On a trip to Austin ,best I got was 28 mpg.at 75mph. The Denali diesel,a much bigger vehicle gets better Mpg.
@yatesuser863 жыл бұрын
I would pull that trailer around empty just to show it off. That is one nice stinking trailer.
@lordofwar96383 жыл бұрын
The big V8 Duramax is laughing at this test 😂
@gogofastful3 жыл бұрын
And is also ashamed of its mileage.
@lordofwar96383 жыл бұрын
@@gogofastful Nobody gets a V8 for MPGs. If you tow a lot it’s not even a concern. At over 900 lb ft of torque I wouldn’t care about the MPGs.
@darrengibson6443 жыл бұрын
Great info! I am curious - what was the combined weight for each combo.?
@Hemidakota Жыл бұрын
The GM is a lot heavier. The Toyota counter-part would be the Tahoe and not the Suburban.
@chevyjaime47633 жыл бұрын
Did I see correct? Toyota still has a gas cap? Holy cow! Overall i do like their philosophy, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Too bad they are being left behind by all the competition when it comes to innovation, tech, ect...
@abrahamguerra50693 жыл бұрын
Toyota is all about reliability…
@TheRealVitko3 жыл бұрын
I love it when Andre does jokes! His face just kicks it home!!!
@HyperXism3 жыл бұрын
Love these comparisons!
@russellmoore6705 Жыл бұрын
Curious if GM is going to change to the LZ0 new 3.0 duramax in the Yukon, Tahoe and Escalade like they did in the Silverado and the sierra that’s now 305 hp and 495 ftlbs instead of this one with 277 hp and 460 ftlbs
@mediocreman22 жыл бұрын
Can you explain your towing weight numbers? You said 7k, but that truck in stock form weighs 3,300 lbs. That trailer should be around 2k-2.2k. I'm sure there are some mods to the truck, but probably not 1,700 lbs. worth.
@decarloswilliams60993 жыл бұрын
Love my Toyota’s, but that is good looking Suburban 🏎
@SwannBus3 жыл бұрын
I’m interested in how the suburban performs. Standing by for a performance, drivability, livability test...
@alexbradley58352 жыл бұрын
Late to this video but did the Toyota have an intergrated trailer break controller? I'll admit I asked this only after watching the first fillup
@dennissmith72143 жыл бұрын
A little bit better😳..........that’s like 20% better, that’s more than a little bit! 😒🤷🏽♂️
@coreyallen10903 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video and comparison..... now, do the same test on the Rivian R1S..... when you get your hands on it, of course 😜
@moosc3 жыл бұрын
How much def did the burb use. Isn't the def next to fuel knack
@suttonssuperstars76793 жыл бұрын
Andre’s Toyota intro reminded me of Gru from despicable me.
@hidros14613 жыл бұрын
You put "Silverado" in the description btw.
@06colkurtz3 жыл бұрын
11+ is great. My Ram would not deliver that. Air suspension is great for the first three years. 😇
@lincoln613 жыл бұрын
What about factoring in the cost of topping of the DEF tank?
@levicharles9963 жыл бұрын
I wonder if that 14 mpg would improve with more break in mileage???
@fj4000073 жыл бұрын
It will definitely not get any better than that.
@dustintunis93473 жыл бұрын
@@fj400007 - It actually could, as engines get broken in their mpg tends to increase a bit.
@fj4000073 жыл бұрын
@@dustintunis9347 never witnessed this happening on any of my vehicles.
@samiaziz26653 жыл бұрын
This suburban is the King Baby . Best Large SUV for the pasts 87 years and hope to make it to 100 years befor GM goes electric
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
GM Garbage Manufactured
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
GMC Goofs Manufacturing Crap
@davidchurchill1651 Жыл бұрын
Does the 3.0L V6 Duramax diesel in the suburban get way better fuel economy than the 4 cylinder 1.6L gas Infiniti QX50?
@MadManMachines3 жыл бұрын
Where i live diesel costs about 30-40 cents more per gallon, then ad in the cost of def and these two vehicles are costing about the same per mile to operate.
@wcslv_67813 жыл бұрын
Looks like the Toyota is really squatting in the rear.
@stern12akachris323 жыл бұрын
I was just about to post that
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
Still will outperform and outlast that shitty gm.
@rooster30193 жыл бұрын
I "think" it would have been better is the Suburban had been engine off while trailer was set-up including weight distribution. Then turn it on and let it accomodate with the automated air suspension. That way, both vehicles get the same treatment and the Chevy gets to use its advantage, if any, from the option.
@courtneyanderson22933 жыл бұрын
makes no difference. Once he started lowering the trailer the hitch height was already set. Whether the compressor kicks in while lowering trailer or after it was lowered doesn't affect anything.
@korndawggy18013 жыл бұрын
I'll wait a while to see if there's some bugs to work out of the new engine and transmission on the Chevy.
@DanielJaegerFilms3 жыл бұрын
There are definitely a lot of engine and electrical bugs. I work in rental fleet and these new body styles are plagued with issues unfortunately. Wait a couple years and let GM straighten it out.
@danichicago91403 жыл бұрын
You will be waiting awhile.
@youarerightboss3 жыл бұрын
Smart man.
@samiaziz26653 жыл бұрын
@@DanielJaegerFilms I been wanting to rent these new 2021 suburban , but I could not find a rental company that had them. Which one do you work at that has these new 2021 suburbans
@DanielJaegerFilms3 жыл бұрын
@@samiaziz2665 Enterprise, National, Alamo and Hertz have them as far as I know. Keep in mind there’s no guarantee they’ll have that actual vehicle at their location. However, if you rent from an airport location, there’s a good chance you’ll find them.
@Antares_4513 жыл бұрын
Side note. The Suburban air ride system is similar to my 2006 4runner v8 Ltd w/xreas. I towed a full size long bed Chevy 1500 with with my 4runner with no problems.
@djcordes43523 жыл бұрын
I’ve been towing a 25’1” boat for the last 9 years behind a 2007 V8 Limited. The 4.7 could definitely use more power!
@kcspeed99803 жыл бұрын
Hey, you guys should do a tow test comparing the 4Runner to the Jeep Grand Cherokee. There doesn’t seem to be a tow test for the 4Runner on your channel and when researching for our next family weekend car they were the two that we were deciding between. Went with 4Runner
@kcspeed99803 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as usual, forgot to add that
@7171-Ws63 жыл бұрын
Best diesel and transmission combo!
@donknicker81103 жыл бұрын
Would of been great to see another suburban gas engine to compare with the diesel
@111danish1113 жыл бұрын
Did not realize the Sequoia has an Independent Rear Suspension.
@jeffzaharis37713 жыл бұрын
The platinum also has adjustable air suspension
@jonrob46753 жыл бұрын
Can you tell us the mpg of the vehicles unloaded? I.e chase vehicle I assume is the suburban for the Toyota test and the Toyotafor the suburban
@ALMX5DP3 жыл бұрын
Dang that was closer than I thought. I kinda anticipated the burb getting nearer to 17-18mpg on that loop.
@jrocu23 жыл бұрын
Notice at only 66 miles the sequoia was almost at half a tank of fuel. Definitely not good multiple stops on a long trip.
@ATH_Berkshire3 жыл бұрын
That must have been due to when that bit of video was shot. He said the Sequoia had a 26G tank and it only used 5.5 G.
@christophercollard84093 жыл бұрын
The range may not be good on the sequoia but it will outlast that chevy by a long shot LOL.
@fj4000073 жыл бұрын
@@christophercollard8409 Toyota are the worst. I had a 2007 FJCRUISER that was averaging the same as my 2014 F250 with 6.2 engine. Toyota engines are all anemic and are not designed to perform under load. Anybody that chooses that ugly outdated Sequoia over a Suburban is downright insane.
@pryme20133 жыл бұрын
@@alienation-k1x range due to a massive tank. Certainly not a small 26gal tank.
@MrJcjet3 жыл бұрын
@@alienation-k1x at 11mpg a full tank would go 271 miles. That's pretty easy math. So you'd really be filling up about every 200 miles. Same as a powerstroke with the 26 gallon tank towing a travel trailer or an f150 with a 23 gallon tank. For towing duty a bigger tank would be better. A stop every 3 hours is pretty average, so I'm not sure it would be a big issue.
@dimitrijeteodorovic62043 жыл бұрын
And how much DPF crap maintenance is going to eat over the time?
@larryspiller153 жыл бұрын
Idk buddy, 25% better fuel economy does not seem pretty similar to me. That's quite large.
@PS-zw4yc3 жыл бұрын
11.2 to 14 is substantial. Like 33%
@denyboy153 жыл бұрын
I would like to know what is the most fuel efficient towing pickup truck out there? Diesel and with or without special mods? Let's say to tow a 7k plus lb camper trailer or 5th wheel.
@ogCornFedRacing3 жыл бұрын
Why does this Suburban Duramax, towing 500lbs more than the Tahoe Duramax in their other video (same 66 mile route) still get about 2-3mpg more?
@iq68402 жыл бұрын
Which one felt like it pulled better?
@halfglassfull2 жыл бұрын
Diesel was less than $3 now about a year or more later < $5. And in the spirit of honest reviews it would be helpful to show the video date stamp.
@ROBinJVILLE3 жыл бұрын
14 mpg while towing is impressive.
@imnotusingmyrealname45663 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing it's the Suburban?
@ROBinJVILLE3 жыл бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 ive already said too much lol
@a.f.s.30043 жыл бұрын
Have 10k ready when that diesel needs work!
@mikeb63863 жыл бұрын
Doesn't diesel fuel have more BTU per gallon like 20%. Then is it worth 20k more to have that little diesel engine that needs an expensive timing belt replacement at 150k? The maintenance cost is more on the diesel too so u have to factor that in along with the DEF fluid u have to put in the diesel these days. I like the diesel but u have to factor in that its a much more complicated engine that most mechanics won't be able to work on or even service.
@brianfinn76443 жыл бұрын
You know we won’t know about maintenance till one hits 150k. The wet belt had melted down parts of the internet. It appears GM went backwards in the design but I’m not an engineer. The diesel maintenance debate is also interesting. Throw in Def and people are melting down over 1k in differences. Toyota has cheapened things there is no denying it... does in equal out with mpgs vs relatability? That’s the question. Toyota parts are also expensive so can boys melt down now too. I’m wallet loyal. Toyota lost me when my commute became 88 miles. I can’t stand the you don’t buy a truck for mpg argument either. It’s so damn expensive to keep a truck on the road in my hell hole state. If you want expensive lower mpgs but with more reliability go with Yota.
@gransport42463 жыл бұрын
4.30 rear end and 6 spd auto isn’t for fuel economy. Not rocket science that sequoia is bad. Also both Toyota and Chevy require a weight distributing hitch for anything over 5,000 lbs.
@mts9823 жыл бұрын
what about def?
@JohnDoe-nz6bk3 жыл бұрын
I use about 1 gallon of DEF for every 1100 miles on my 3.0. That's no towing.
@Boomheyyou3 жыл бұрын
I would spend the money and get the suburban
@christophercollard84093 жыл бұрын
The toyota would outlast that modern chevy no contest though so what if you have to stop at a gas station more often ?
@pimpplayboy57273 жыл бұрын
@@christophercollard8409 Thats a bunch of lies I've seen plenty of toyota trucks broken down
@arhamkhakwani58513 жыл бұрын
@@pimpplayboy5727 bru I have seen more chevys at the junkyard than Toyotas being serviced Even frickin the old top gear tried to kill off a Toyota truck yet they could not.
@pimpplayboy57273 жыл бұрын
@@arhamkhakwani5851 Dude literally there is Classic Chevy trucks all over the place running perfectly While Toyotas all rusted out LOL
@pimpplayboy57273 жыл бұрын
@@arhamkhakwani5851 Top gear is a fantasy show I could kill a Hilux very fast all you have to do is load the bed a little over max payload and the frame will snap in half LOL
@djp12343 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the Jeep ECODIESEL vs 4xe test.
@ChiefRickyRC3 жыл бұрын
Another one! Great video!
@rossbowman2023 жыл бұрын
Diesel has been the answer for years. Stupid people let's say are ruining them. I love my diesel. Since the beginning of the "B" administration this year diesel prices at the pump have gone up almost a dollar. It is ridiculous. It costs less to make a gallon of diesel than regular gasoline. *Steps of soap box* Good review TFL.
@b22chris3 жыл бұрын
Under Old Man Joe we’re going to be paying more for everything diesel is just the beginning.
@Malc6643 жыл бұрын
Nice video Andre. You know you have to test your new F150 now right.