2017 Ram Rebel Off-Road Review: Mud, Toads & Wranglers - Oh My!

[@zclary923]

I love all the stupid comments about "my 1987 Toyota Celica could go through this course"... Shut up. Nobody cares. I could drive this course in my regular RAM truck, the video is showing off the Rebel and demonstrating some of it's off road capabilities. These guys go where they're allowed to go, they're not driving trucks that they own. They go to these media events where the manufacturer's let them drive the vehicles. People freaking expect you to buy a brand new truck for every video, and drive it up Mount Everest to review it, get real.

[@cookiegaming4712]

ikr

[@boss123400]

Some six year old girls on their Big Wheels and Barbie Dream Machines could make it through that course. But, I'm sure Ram engineers calculated that anything more rigorous would destroy the truck before our eyes. That things a rolling IED.

[@robertohiguera8832]

You should allow subscribers into the course also. I would like to see their super awesome family sedan go through everything as they claim it will.

[@gingerroot3226]

Roberto Higuera it's not their course...

[@SladerRoberts]

I am sure the Rebel can do much more than this "offroad" course showed.

[@chriskeiley5343]

i am unsure it can do more.... wonder how many recalls on that rebel?

[@SladerRoberts]

+chris keiley Whoooaaa girl there is no GM vehicles here.

[@chriskeiley5343]

last i checked gm wasnt getting fined by the gov for recalls? perhaps that has changed, either way they are both bailouts

[@SladerRoberts]

+chris keiley True, either way I still like it.

[@IrishCarbombs85]

Pretty sure my Rav4 would have made it through that course...

[@MrThenry1988]

I was scared it was gonna brake the whole time. glad they made it.

[@Martin_from_SC]

Guys... In the video at 4:45, it's a different truck... Looks like a Dodge 2500, you can see the chromed wheel cap and the 8 lug pattern, and what looks to be chrome RAM 2500 side badges, and the mirror is folded. Just before that, at 4:26 the Rebel is about to drive thru the water and has no side mounted camera just above the left rear wheel. TFL, please, I like you guys too much, please spare us this kind of editing tomfoolery.

[@TFLtruck]

+Martin You have a very sharp eye. That is the 2017 Ram 2500 with the Off-Road package. It's embargoed until September 1.

[@SuperLukedukem]

Your right, wow, what happened there fellas

[@thetruth5415]

I'd say it was a simple case of running both trucks on the same trail on the same day and filming with the same cameras. Both the same color so when editing they just didn't notice that short clip was different. It's not a big deal, shit happens.

[@zclary923]

Yeah no kidding, some people don't understand the sheer amount of work it takes to edit videos, especially when you're putting out content with as high of quality as TFL does. Remember these guys are human beings too.

[@gingerroot3226]

Are you BLIND? Somehow you saw there was no side view camera, but missed Andre standing there with a camera! He's also not in the cab shots for that portion. Wow...

[@ThomperBeThompin]

Andre! I'm so happy you have a sense of humor and can laugh at yourself! stay positive!

[@BigBird89Productions]

Love my Rebel. Fun truck, comfy ride. Zero issues so far. ( 1 yr in) Thanks for the vid guys

[@bowjangles510]

Same, i got mine last November and put 20,000 miles on it. No issues at all. Just found out AEV (American expedition vehicles) makes some sick of road kits for it. Super excited to start modifying.

[@DonZaloog88]

@@bowjangles510 how's it doing now?

[@bowjangles510]

4Body2Soul ended up selling it after putting a few thousand more miles on it. Never had an issue. Traded it in for the new Jeep jl which I gotta say I like way more. Resale is better with the Jeep too.

[@DonZaloog88]

@@bowjangles510 don't tell me that! I'm about to trade in my Jeep Wrangler Willy's for a 2017 Rebel. Should I not?

[@bowjangles510]

4Body2Soul depends on what you need it for. It was a cool truck but the wheel base was too long for me. I need more Offroad capability not towing or anything. The 5.7 hemi isn’t a bad motor and it’s a good looking truck.

[@MrKeyboardCommando]

Why's everybody complaining⁉️ They started out with four wheels on their wagon, and they finished with four wheels on their wagon. I'd say that's bloody good going for a Ram Rebel‼️😊😊😊

[@MrApplesaucestuff]

5:54 passenger door seal along B pilar is already coming off. or perhaps was assembled this way. you can see how uneven it is. great quality as usual. go usa

[@chadsteele1]

Would be nice if it came with a rear locker and option for front one.

[@BikerJim74]

I'm pretty sure my junky old S-10 can go through that course with no problem.

[@zanekubicek2186]

Hell my C-10 can go through it

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

If you look in the background a Jeep Renegade is doing it.

[@Aj_0400]

a slammed traverse could do better

[@towjr4842]

+Kevin Smith That was a Wrangler.

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

State Park Kid There was a Renegade further in the background in the water crossings.

[@mikedoyle7020]

Lame course. Pretty much any 4wd truck should be able to handle that course with ease.

[@zachmacgregor2126]

Only thing that even needed 4x4 was the water crossing... maybe.

[@gw4k]

***** Agreed

[@TheBCSledder]

+Zach MacGregor It had a pretty hard bottom probably would have been fine lol these courses are totally stupid

[@DoRC]

Andre "I'll get a shot of the water crossing from the outside!"

[@fabianramirez3757]

sometimes using the right momentum isnt always the problem gotta try a new thing

[@ScoobyDigites]

I saw a lady in a minivan at a campground do what this truck just did with kids in the back and soccer dad being a spotter. I understand not wanting to tear the truck up but the courses could be a little more demanding. In the city when it floods like yesterday after heavy downpour the water is/was just as deep with your fair share of small cars like the prius pt cruisers ford focus and mini Cooper driving through it with no problem. I'd like to see this truck thumped on a little to see what it can really do.

[@PatrickRich]

well shot andre, those exterior shots looked great

[@GrizzlyDippingHick]

All the stuff u guys went on I could do that in my dodge diesel in 2 wheel drive...

[@BLAZETANGO]

Pretty sure with a proper budget, you can get a truck off craigslist, give it a tune up, put some M/T tires, some leveling kit, a nice flowmaster or magnaflow exhaust system and you can do this "off-road" trail and you're not even halfway to the pricing tag of this truck

[@gavinraney7797]

that Mopar exhaust sounds like my go-kart I drove when was a kid.

[@williammulrooney1909]

Awesome looking truck!

[@80srockerable]

That darn frog frightened Andre!

[@Bryan1483]

This truck did not fail to compete against the Raptor because it was a Ram. It didn't even fail because of its engine option. It failed because engineers failed to commit to the off road capabilities and the overall distinguishing design of the vehicle. They slapped a grill on a regular truck frame and raised it,. The Raptor is a truck unique to its own devices.

[@dpajc056]

hahaha @ Andrei "How deep is the water, because I've had some bad experience lately..." YEAH, I remember you in that Hummer! lol

[@JesusMartinez-zj5ct]

do a run on 2 wheel drive and then compare the results with it on 4x4 so we can see the difference

[@powerram92]

This course is a fuckin joke. I could do this in my truck in 2wd.

[@daldaldal6055]

я б там на девяточке проехал

[@gw4k]

It's a Dodge....so it goes through the course and straight to the shop to get worked on!

[@powerram92]

I'm sure your talking about Fords

[@gw4k]

Jose Pacheco T Jesus settle down little fella. It's not like I spit in your face. If you want to talk then you at least need to be realistic and honest. Dodge is known for poor reliability. It's a fact. If you can't accept that then piss off.

[@Landofmagic678]

Well. They have gotten a lot better!

[@G19Jeeper]

My grandmother could do this in her 2003 Buick LeSabre. Cmon guys, take it through tougher shit than that

[@specialperson170]

I wish these courses were ya know challenging in any shape or form

[@Hooijnbvn]

Interesting. The truck comes with Goodyears as can be seen in the spare but the truck has Toyo's on it.

[@weekendwarrior8179]

how was this truck different than the 2016 version? how high was the ground clearance when the suspension was all the way up? mpg? what was the interior like to drive in? how comfortable are those back seats? only thing you showed was a water crossing and a video showing you guys talking about nothing, and nonsense about wasting your money on Mopar junk. Your off roading videos have been degrading in quality lately, i hope it gets better.

[@circuitjc]

I agree. I clicked on this video to see what is different from the 2016 Rebel? It doesn't look like they changed a thing from what we can see.

[@epicclips456]

When have their off-roading videos ever been good? They're a couple pussies who won't take a truck on any serious trail and as soon as the tires start slipping a little they let off loosing all momentum.

[@circuitjc]

That is because they don't own the vehicles they drive on these videos. See the guy in the back? That's a FCA rep.

[@alew3555]

They have other videos doing more in depth reviews of every vehicle

[@weekendwarrior8179]

actually i should ask how is this truck different than the 2015 version?

[@Aschwabbles]

All these people dissing dodge and their reliability but ive had my srt 10 ram for 12 years now and no issues except i needed new ac motor

[@Rockdaground]

LOL Andre don't forget your swimsuit. 😅😂

[@megadeth4ever8000]

you wanna go all the way you go with the wrangler rubicon!!!!! awesome

[@hunternield2408]

4:52, thats nit the rebel, its a 2500 of sorts, look at rims and mirrors

[@MrTyler602]

I bet the trail is rough in the truck with the suspension all the way up. you can run over a pebble with the suspension all the way up and it's a rough ride

[@incaslivinglife2967]

This course is easy as hell lol, doesn’t test any vehicles at all. My girlfriends crosstrek would tackle this easy

[@jmhm17]

"you want to go all out you buy a Wrangler Rubicon" haha he gets it..

[@Shotgunin15]

Nice truck, but not having an optional locking differential is a big let down.

[@Fletchmurda]

if you build one online it gives you the option.

[@gw4k]

It's a Dodge....so it goes through the course and straight to the shop to get worked on!

[@Shotgunin15]

I see the option for anti-spin/limited slip but not a locker that I can activate myself.

[@circuitjc]

They won't add lockers to the Rebel as it will take away from their Power Wagon sales. Just like why they don't have an option for a hidden winch mount. There is more than enough room for one. Can't make the Rebel the PW's little brother but can make the PW look like a Rebel. Marketing.

[@MrBlurberries]

nope only a lsd

[@sanchezmatt54]

I could do that in my bike

[@SonnyBoiMoto]

I think you mean on your bike not in. lol

[@Agent.K.]

I can do it on my bicycle.

[@sanchezmatt54]

+Black Mamba 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@ray_biker7406]

I can ride my horse where no wheeled vehicle can get through. LOL

[@jessemartinez4745]

pffff I could do that on my scooter

[@barbier.family]

I'm quite certain I could take my wifes Town and Country through this course.

[@Albertus9898]

1:59 lol This hill looks better than most of the roads in my neighborhood.

[@erickillg811]

Don't want to sound rude but if you're going to show off a vehicle of its capabilities . Maybe take it someplace where four-wheel-drive will actually work you could've done everything into will drive with the slightest bit of momentum.unless you're trying to please a bunch of yuppies great video

[@alecjackson1437]

TFLTruck, it would be so amazing to receive a ram truck from you guys to help me with school and work when I start work, that would be Ana amazing thing. I love to watch when you're driving Rams especially the rebel and power wagon!

[@blakew1026]

if u go all the way u buy a raptor

[@ottomatt29]

*Power Wagon

[@blakew1026]

+ottomatt29 sorry to burst your bubble but that is wrong

[@ReptilesRewind]

+Shockin Awesome except power wagons are more capable than raptors... sorry, not sorry

[@blakew1026]

+David Robertson what in working cool but that's not why u buy one

[@RevolutionMuscle]

Power Wagon if you want to go rock crawling, which is boring AF

[@lawrencebraul9722]

An example of a huge pickup that is really limited in terms of mobility and nimbleness. This is the equivalent of using a 3 ton truck as your second vehicle.

[@Saya-fs1jo]

the modern defi ition of "off road" and "ranch truck" sure has changed, I'll keepy 80s power ram and 80s xj (mildly built) and I'll keep my 4ft dirt hill I use as an rti ramp lol while y'all work on your. puddles.... might be enough for a lot of people but I don't believe it could do what I've come to expect from anything 4wd

[@thestigmach1984]

I go through most of that just to get out of my driveway after a rain storm. the real bad stuff I go through to get to my fishing spot. this doesn't show what the rebel is really capable of. it's not a raptor, and is there meant to be. but it's a very capable truck of the showroom floor

[@chrisweaver3065]

Agree I live in NW and this shit looks like my childhoods street we live on lol Rebel a joke Dodge 5.7 H Raptor eats this truck for luch and never even has to try hard lol

[@thestigmach1984]

it does eat it, but you have to keep in mind even the design guy from dodge said it's not designed to be a raptor competition. it's designed as a lifestyle truck for people who occasionally go offroad to their favorite fishing or camping spot. not to go Baja racing. I don't need to go Baja racing, most people don't. it actually fits my needs very well, and a lot of other people, and plan to buy one soon hopefully. I hate when people say the raptor will destroy it, this is obvious. it's like saying a jeep wrangler will destroy a Ford escape in a off road. of course it will they were designed completely differently for different purposes.

[@chrisweaver3065]

Well that just goes to show how out of touch there team is and if you are gona give a Truck a Bad Ass name like Rebel for the love of God make the truck Bad Ass too :) That Truck gives Rebel a bad name loz

[@thestigmach1984]

they're not out of touch they just didn't want to build a Baja truck. it's not hard to build one. long travel suspension a lot of hp and a good 4x4 system and your good to go. not everyone can build a lifestyle truck that is compatible with all parts of life. a raptor realistically can't be driven daily. it uses way to much gas and wasn't designed for that. the rebel can be driven everyday gets good fuel mileage for a v8 and can also be taken offroad effectively. just because you want a raptor doesn't mean everyone else does. also at least it still has a v8. your beloved raptors now have baby v6 in them. the originals were cool with monster v8s, now they're just f150s with a body kit and suspension upgrade. boring

[@chrisweaver3065]

Wrong just traded my 2014 dodge 1500 Big Horn 5.7 Hemi for dodge 2500 Cummins diesel, and the Hemi only got 11-12 mpg(Freeway 16-18) and I had it 2 years. My brother Raptor with 6.2L gets 14-16(18-21 Freeway) so maybe you need to look into this more and Oh by the way he drivers his daily w/o any prob. and hes had it over 2 years..

[@motorhead_jt21]

20 inches of water in a crossing isn't shit. I could go through that in my MDX

[@silicontoad7186]

I could ride my mountain bike through that.

[@JUKEBOXX1990]

+Silicon Toad I could swim through that.

[@ToAstYNaChO]

So you like water flowing in the floor of your MDX?

[@silicontoad7186]

ToAstYNaChO I think he was just saying that the course was shit. It was a course designed to be easy for the trucks they sell, for people that don't know any better.

[@ToAstYNaChO]

This is a light duty truck with graphics and bells and whistles. the people that buy this truck don't want something REALLY capable, if they did, they'd buy the power wagon. So in my eyes, this course is more than adequate

[@koryjones2568]

I love watching these "hard trails" they're on lol the road to my house is worse than this especially after it rains rock "pile" and all but nice truck

[@greg5341]

Am I the only one who noticed that the side shots where from a 2500 ram, not the rebel

[@thetruth5415]

Why are you running the offroad version of the bunny slope? Real trails and real offroad please.

[@ray_biker7406]

Put a turbo changed diesel with a manual transmission and this truck would be priceless.

[@trevorvecchio1068]

4:53 you thought you were sneaky but that is a different truck looks at the wheels

[@catherinecampagna9174]

i noticed that to and at 6:08 its a mega cab which I'm guessing is the power wagon

[@willmix5044]

A 392 HEMI Ram 1500 would be nice. Not just a decal package.

[@callsignvader2100]

Thats not a real test lol. That course is lame

[@Gobert-fj8mu]

Well it's made for a jeep, what do you expect.

[@Cobb]

+Ragin Cajun a really hard trail with welding stations every 10 ft.

[@dpajc056]

+Ragin Cajun That is sooooo out of line man. If you're talking about fake jeeps (aka Renegade, Patriot, etc), then ok (but even these are amazingly capable for being fake 4WD), but if you mean Wrangler, I can't just let that go lol. Seriously, any AWD SUV, even a Subaru car would pass through that trail. They had to make something easy for the Journalists because not every guy with a pencil can drive well enough off road to get these vehicles to break a sweat. My wrangler could practically drive itself through this trail (I know because I've put it on an ATV trail before in first low and stepped out of the car and it drove itself... DISCLAIMER: Don't try this if you got the doors on and they can automatically lock hahahha)

[@Gobert-fj8mu]

lol, I'm pretty sure the other guy in the truck was welder.

[@dpajc056]

Yeah there's one with a Benz too lol

[@TechSalesTom]

Nice! This is the truck I'm looking at getting, 2017 because it is supposed to have CarPlay. Did your tester have Apple CarPlay and UConnect 4.0?

[@corrollaS2010]

cliffhanger 2.0 is next right

[@MrPlecemanvpd]

My wife’s 2020 Sante Fe can handle that trail lol Even my 1976 Oldsmobile. It’s just a flat trial

[@asifkabir2127]

Besides the water I could do that course in my Mitsubishi Galant

[@bronzechicken4437]

Won't change the facts it's a Dodge, and that says enough for itself, and that this course sucks, the truck is clearly too low to the dirt.

[@chriskeiley5343]

guess they should have just took the raptor out!

[@Greivous429]

FoRd

[@Kcducttaper1]

For an 'off-road' package, I would've liked to see a smidge more lift and tires and definitely a locker, at least in the back, if not front and rear. That would make it significantly more capable than, say, an FX4 or Z71 package.

[@mixamytoeface8257]

surely this is a joke. I've worked on construction sites with worse terrain and we had 2wd Ute's.

[@TheRussellmoody]

i love how they used a 2500 for some of the shots haha t 4:54 thats a 2500 rim....

[@pfrealestategroup823]

4 low and yore turning wheels from corner to corner? What kind of 4 low is that?

[@amusma2013]

what's new in 2017 for the Rebel?

[@dalecocking2907]

they should have the 707 hp hellcat engine as an option on this truck, that would be really cool :)

[@michael4265]

well would you look now lol

[@williammaddox5079]

I've taken my 22hp V Twin Husqvarna through worse than that, where was the mud man

[@PeopleCallMeCraig]

Is this a review or are we just along for a leisurely drive with these gents?

[@kylemartin1469]

I wish they could put the ecodiesel in the rebel.

[@kylemartin1469]

+Sartaj Aujla why isn't good for off road?

[@kylemartin1469]

+Sartaj Aujla but it's a diesel it's all torque

[@kylemartin1469]

+Sartaj Aujla that doesn't make sense at all

[@johng4527]

Yeah, all torque no power (compared to the 5.7l).

[@kylemartin1469]

Diesel is gonna last longer better mpg and torque is the real power so it gets you outta whatever you drive in

[@Yorelz]

This looks like the road I take my old Toyota 2 wheel drive pick up on to get to my parents house

[@boggin6244]

Roman, buddy, where can I get a shirt like that? just like that but TFLTruck on it?

[@prsguitar6910]

what happened to the other guy that was part of the channel?

[@tc1uscg65]

Are those the same wheels you see on the little Fiat Jeep?

[@DJR5280]

I have taken my Tahoe down far worse roads and it even has a G80 locker from the factory. I don't understand why Dodge makes an off road truck with no locker.

[@johnescarcha7689]

i still believe that pickup trucks with diesel engine are the best

[@Cobb]

Isn't that a $50k truck that was made for offroading and they didn't include a locking rear diff!? Guess I'd stick with every other company because they offer a locking rear diff in their offroad package trucks.

[@carlossantiago9317]

Is tfl selling out. Makes you wonder who is writing there checks.

[@brandonskehan7715]

I would say this course is depressing and didn't really show what the truck could do especially 4wd. a 2wd SUV or some cars could go through at least half this course.

[@omgwtf6969]

for the price of this truck i could put 40s on a jeep and full fox kit all the way around and drive circles around this truck

[@adventurousairman]

My 1983 Turbo diesel 300D could do that entire course no problem

[@owendesautels9612]

The problem is the truck has no ground clearance and the distance from the tire to the truck is like 2 inches it's absolutely horrible

[@binauralauto3621]

I could take my volt on this course. My driveway has more challenging mud holes.

[@lordboombastic5946]

The Rebel is a lot more capable than that baby course.

[@navkarnsingh949]

U guys should review a HUMMER H2

[@spongebobguy4791]

4:47 the Durango is like HA!!!

[@towjr4842]

A 1988 old slammed barley working Monte can make it

[@mattra5224]

I've gone though harder stuff than that in a 2003 f150 in 2wd

[@WhaddupImJohn]

Lol same. You have a 4.6 or 5.4?

[@mattra5224]

+WhaddupImJohn 4.6 but i have a level kit and 33s but I've gone though mud up to above the bottom of the door

[@mikecoffin820]

25' of beach rock, 25' of sand, a few puddles and a lawn that requires mowing...A Ridgeline could of done this.

[@susanthomas5948]

That trail is so easy you could go through it with a FORD

[@bosshoss69lee]

I think a crv could do that course no problem

[@traveling_lands]

I've more offloading in a 4 cylinder 2wd Toyota pickup

[@tai2127]

it's annoying how slow they're driving

[@Justme92570]

i can do this whole course in my impala ss

[@brendabat3869]

I did that corse in my 2011 Prius.

[@jaikarchatha1967]

Brenda Bat fucking prius lol

[@pacificwarrior7679]

Roman your supposed to wear your ankle monitor on your ankle.

[@luisrivera2166]

It would of been a nicer truck, if it comes with a Locking Diff.

[@protoculture289]

So how long before the transmission goes out?

[@MadHatterOfMetal]

That's a legitimate question.

[@6839will]

why would you pick it in 4 low for that

[@daddy8935]

I could do this course in my Subaru Forester....

[@walteredwards2202]

I would like to take my 2001 Ram 1500 4x4 Off Road Edition through the course. I'm pretty sure my truck can do all that also. Wasn't that impressive.