2019 Ram Rebel vs Tundra TRD Pro vs Mud: Which Can Cross The Deepest Goo?

[@TFLtruck]

If you want to know how quick the latest off-road truck are, check this out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHLCnp-mpLtre7s

[@jasonthach44]

Now that's the best review as of 2018. Stephen should do a video on the Land Cruiser on the same trail.

[@mcruz4467]

You picked the right truck because you can always change the tires to your specs!.

[@redd7188]

LEO Supporter I think you would look a lot better in a green jersey with birds on it.

[@jeremytoms9698]

You can't buy a true Land Cruiser in Canada. Only the remote 'Oil Patch' and mining sites can bring them in.

[@Tavioakakilla]

The Fast Lane Truck

[@aLLsTaR_617]

My biggest mistake was buying my 2014 Tundra 1794, now almost 5 years later and 120k trouble free miles I told myself I’m going to ride it until the wheels falls off and I don’t see that happening anytime soon 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@jakkbatt4711]

Yep thats what ive heard😂 i saw a 1990 for sale, frame was spotless, i though he put a new one in, nope was origional

[@aLLsTaR_617]

Hugh Anderson my 2014 didn’t come with that, just a real 5.7 v8 with blindspot monitor and proximity sensors all around. Just a Plain Jane 1794 model made in the USA 🇺🇸

[@rigobertogarza7945]

Did you just copy that joke from the other commenter

[@aLLsTaR_617]

Rigoberto Garza it appears that way, I think you should report it to the SJW’s I’m sorry

[@lfkk]

should have gone American. now you're paying for it.

[@jamespenner1412]

Holly crap a review that actually goes off road and into deep mud! Impressed.

[@mattmyles3908]

James Penner easy. That was hardy deep mud.

[@jackpolack3315]

Matt Myles Deeper than the vast majority of truckers on stock suspension/tires will ever go

[@pushtostart1377]

Hahahaha an all wheel drive car would’ve made it through that😂

[@pushtostart1377]

Peder Hansen The ruts are deep but the mud is only like 2 inches deep it’s mostly just water. Probably wouldn’t even need to put in 4 wheel drive if he dint drive like a puss. Trucks barely got any mud on them at the end😂 point is it wasn’t a very good test of what those trucks can do.

[@highwaycruiser6486]

@@pushtostart1377 good to know, that this test isn't comprehensive enough, please make your own test, would love to see your approach.

[@stompbot272]

I've owned a Silverado, GMC Sierra and two Ram 1500's. I test drove the Titan and the Tundra. The Toyota came home with me. Best Truck I've ever owned!

[@fredwilliams7893]

Agreed. My 4th gen dodge was pure junk bought a 2013 TRD tundra and love it. Can't believe how many rams I see on the road and now that I owned one I feel bad and kinda laugh to myself when I see them. Cause I know crappy they are and most of the ones I see are new and they have no idea what's instore for them when it hits 100,000.

[@MatthewSmith-uf6tr]

Toyotas are ugly turds

[@milesdavis8665]

Once you own a tundra very few people but anything else. I was gone get a ram as well. Till I drive a tundra. Have owned 2 since. And hoping I can find one here in the Philippines

[@fredwilliams7893]

@@milesdavis8665 You are absolutely right! I really feel you will regret the ram purchase. Especially when it gets to high mileage. Tundras are meant to keep for a very long time rams you get rid of around 100,000 miles. That when the problems really start happening!

[@milesdavis8665]

@@fredwilliams7893 I believe your right Fred Williams. The only other truck I know of that gets high miles is the f 150. Since I'm here in the Philippines u nay have to get one of those and be happy. But I'll wait and see. Sometimes they surprise you here

[@lordsavagethe21st30]

Finally somebody who will actually test a truck

[@viralvideo171]

What a concept

[@TheBrandolicious]

I get the feeling he's a die hard toyota guy lol

[@Jerbt]

It's in the name of course he's gonna test it 😂😂

[@4-LOW]

Now THAT is an off-road review. Something no other journalists have comprehension of.

[@เทพพิทักษ์พงศ์ไพบูลย์]

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[@mudpuppy318]

I’m a licensed mechanic and I wouldn’t want to work at a Toyota Dealership, all I’d be doing is oil changes. If it wasn’t for Ford, GM and Chrysler I’d be out of a job

[@ashes2ashes863]

The busiest I ever was in my earlier years was working for Toyota... filling out recall and warranty work for the many on-going debacles Toyota was running interference on at the time. I guess it depends on who you ask.

[@mudpuppy318]

In my 10+ years of working for a independent shop we never had to do any major work on a Toyota, we replaced multiple engines and did major drivetrain repair on all the big brands just not Toyota. When my boss retired after running the shop for 18 years he bought a brand new 1794 Tundra, when I asked him why he said “it’s simple, I’ve never had to work on one”

[@ashes2ashes863]

Will bear in mind that Toyota doesn't exactly sell a lot of trucks full-size either. Everybody I know that does drive a Toyota truck doesn't actually do any work with it. It's a mall-crawler. Track one of my better friends house about her Tacoma. He Loves his Tacoma, but he borrows our GMC Every Spring to take his boat out to the dock and borrows it again every fall to bring it back. He's openly told me his to Tacoma couldn't pull a greasy string out of a cat's ass...his words not mine.

[@mudpuppy318]

Ashes 2 Ashes sounds like your buddy needs a Tundra or just a smaller boat. I love my Tundra, I’d buy another one but there’s nothing wrong with the one I have, which kinda sucks.. It just won’t die!

[@ashes2ashes863]

@@mudpuppy318 his wife wishes he would get rid of that boat. We all wish he would get rid of her lol.

[@garethclisby3105]

I love how this guy drives brand new trucks like I drove my 98 Tacoma, really putting them to the test. I have an 08 Tundra 267k regular maintenance and it's a beauty!

[@quentinlubberts]

I have a 07 sierra 4.8 1500 with 375,000 on it..... all about maintenance for sure

[@johngerson7295]

My brother has the same year 2008 tundra 198k miles in Utah and he love it! I mean platinum is very nice in the snow but this revel looks gorgeous

[@Bru946]

Usually I don't like bright colors but the red and the blue both look real good.

[@HALWG51]

Just like the new iPhones...LOL

[@alexlaporte7184]

Regis Riley the red is common but it fits the ram..I wasn’t fond on the blue but it just has that odd look but good look

[@zachariasprice3762]

The both look cool... but not on my driveway. I prefer more neutral colors too. I love the tan RAM puts on the Power Wagon desert edition and the brown GMC puts on the Sierra and Silverado.

[@scottfricker2472]

230k in my 06 Tundra without an issue! Bought it with 50k on it and just love it!

[@rosssmith9941]

Yeah 4.7 Is possibly the best engine ever made

[@scottfricker2472]

I would happen to agree with you!

[@agentsmith9851]

I sold my 2006 Tundra 4wd limited with 300k to my neighbor few years ago and now he has 370k on it and still not a single issue. Besides normal maintenance.

[@scottfricker2472]

@@agentsmith9851 Solid! Keep on trucking!

[@patrickirish8110]

Adding this style of vid/content (and the presenter) to the channel was a damn great idea. The TFL group of channels truly delivers the goods.

[@WolfOverland]

The tundra still takes the cake. I can buy one and never worry about crap breaking. The ram. Well, mine was at the dealer from interror popping apart to transmission slippage to the air suspension failing. Many times. Thank god it was under warrenty. Once I was almost out I got the tundra. Only had a issue with the front radar thing that was a known issue. And it was updated. No further issues.

[@eliteexposure5594]

I really like the way this guy reviews the trucks. Surprising ending too, great video!

[@Alex_Gorell]

Elite Exposure yes I thought for sure he was going to choose the Ram.

[@mahidikarif2123]

Yeah, that Ram made it look so easy!

[@tomjahn6896]

Well, the ram did it easier, and is technologically light years ahead of the yota. I wonder how the non air suspension rebel would fare. Having currently daily driving an all air sprung vehicle for the last 8 years, I wouldn't want air suspension, but rather the Bilstein shocks on the rebel. I drive an air suspended rebel a month so and was impressed, but I'll use the $1700 usd that ram gets for the air suspension on other options. Air suspension makes vehicles ride numb compared to regular shocks. Then if you want shocks like the ones on the TRD, just add them. Falcon as well as fox are available.

[@tigerbiterhater]

Tom Jahn gotta remember. Toyota Tundras, Tacos and 4runners. Especially Pro. They’re meant for off-roading. Just a straight bulky machine. No need for all the savvy tech and all the gadgets like the Rams. If you want all the gadgets. Get limited editions. This is why people still buying them. Just simple vehicles to operate.

[@tomjahn6896]

@@tigerbiterhater I've got an 04 v8 4runner that we bought new. Great rig. Too bad yota can't listen to the people and put the 4.6 and the 6 spd from the Lexus gx in at least top trim level 4runners. I want to like the tundra, it's just dated, very much so.

[@ivan2056]

Leave it to the Canadian to test drive a truck the way it's supposed to be tested. Roman and Nathan got nothing on you. Keep up the good reviews!!!

[@daveh9551]

Ivan so true. I’ve been dying for a video like this

[@8Jhartzell]

Dude those two clowns 🤦🏻‍♂️. Pretty much all of the Colorado TFL guys are goobers. This guy is wayyyy better with his presentation/personality.

[@jshapiro34]

Much better reviewer that bro truck segment legit made me hate them.....this dude dogged a Durango on street tires and pulled it out with sidexside that's when I knew he knows what we do in the outdoors....hammer down and F**k shit up.

[@AngusNB]

What do you mean? Isn't that the Trans Canada Highway? 😀

[@CB-DFWRealtor]

Screw canada

[@JoseChung21]

Finally TFL - this is how we use our trucks. Take note. Spectacular review kid!

[@PrimeAutotainment]

At 11:50 he went full blown Canadian accent 😅. Love it. It’s great to see these trucks driven like this and truly tested out. That’s always appreciated. Great content and keep it coming with the trucks! I liked your videos at Autoguide and even more now at TFL 👍

[@greghale717]

OH YEAH! OH YEAH ! OH YEAH! LOL

[@theifgamez1127]

that isn't a Canadian accent there I have heard Canadian all my life im am born and raised in Canada not full Canadian but I do know what a Canadian accent sounds like

[@PrimeAutotainment]

theif gamez maybe more of a midwestern/north midwestern accent. Either way it make me think Canadian because that’s where he lives. I grew up in South Dakota and went to school with Minnesotans, Canadians, etc and they sounded like that lol. Oh well

[@niwachien]

Can-uh-duh... I thought he was gay or very effeminate but I guess can-uh-duh socialist explains it.

[@fenderboy68]

And here comes the idiotic response. You feel better now? More manly? Good for you, now go pull your horn. @@niwachien

[@avvonch8451]

I have a thundra and it’s freaking awesome... Bought it as second handed and it was 60k miles and now it’s almost 190k miles and still smooth. !!!

[@patrickhuskey8277]

Fails durability test

[@michaelduenas1364]

Trucks are getting way too expensive

[@velveetagang8309]

ikr, but the tundra and titan are far more affordable than the American brands

[@iDrive4fun93]

Ikr, try getting into anything 4x4 brand new for less than $30-35k. It’s not happening. The affordable, blue collar machine isn’t affordable anymore.

[@swss12]

@@iDrive4fun93 try getting anything less than 45k in canada...

[@swss12]

yet people keep buying..... manufacturer's aren't stupid

[@iDrive4fun93]

Devo a lot of people have to have a pickup for work, myself included. Taking advantage of what people need is what’s happening. People need to have it, so why not raise the price? They are gonna pay it because they have no choice. Even used pickups are very expensive.

[@mikefahy482]

Love how he treats these trucks now that's some real world off road testing right there love this channels offroad videos

[@finewheels]

Nice analysis of both trucks. I rarely am off road so I appreciate hearing how things do from someone who is knowledgeable. I ordered a 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn from the factory. Getting it June 2019. I'm using it mostly for work and pulling my travel trailer on the weekends. The new trucks are a lot better than the older ones.

[@MidMoTundra]

With highway Michelin tires and no rear locker, I’d say the Tundra did great. Would be nice to see the same test with the same tires on both

[@trevorc5477]

Test is stock vs stock. Toyota is too lazy to put better tires on their most offroad worthy model but put duratracs on sr5s I will NEVER understand their decisions lol

[@JASONHJEFFERSON]

its the cafe standards in the us is why they put street tires on a off road truck id have to get some different tires and keep the Michelins for road trips

[@trevorc5477]

@@JASONHJEFFERSON look at the rebel, it has offroad tires. The zr2 has offroad tires, the wrangler comes with mud terrains The only truck advertised as offroad vehicles that have street tires are trd pro tacomas and tundras. It has literally nothing to do with cafe

[@vincentlee9638]

Exactly. It's like when testing performance vehicles and put all season economical tires on one and put Michelin PSS on another.

[@Aperson156]

@@trevorc5477 Why waste money as a manufacturer putting more expensive off-road tires on them when 9 times out of 10 the person buying it has their own preferences on off-road tires?

[@kohsman313]

Lmao this guy beats the shit outta them trucks. That's awesome! Great off road review!

[@lagoonrd4173]

justin kohsman Stacey David would give a proper showing of these trucks

[@NWI_Steel]

@@lagoonrd4173 Stacey David would be an awesome addition to the TFL team!!!!

[@leadnsteel1428]

He's just out for a rip eh

[@Kamesuko]

When he hit that hole full speed with the Tundra... it was the painful to watch. And I’m not even a Toyota fan.

[@Chinese_Chicken]

lol, that's just some easy driving through minimal mud.

[@bobw7305]

I just got a 2019 rebel with Bilstein shocks. I didn't want the possibility of headaches with $2000+ air suspension failure. It would cost around 4k to fix or replace down the road.. I love the truck it is badass.

[@tomjahn6896]

Air suspension will fail, and at $1795, no thank you. I've got air suspension on my Audi. It's nice, but..... I did test drive a rebel with the air suspension, it was very nice, but I'd go with the Bilstein shocks as well.

[@dchawk81]

The air suspension on my Lincoln Navigator failed after about 18 years. I put coil springs in their place. It was like $200. I'd just not pay for the option in the first place though if it's truly an option.

[@bucksshots3109]

And with it being on a Ram it will definitely fail

[@tomjahn6896]

@@dchawk81 actually the air suspension is only not an option on the limited model. All others, including the rebel have regular steel springs standard. It's a 1795.00 option to get air suspension. The tradesman might not have air suspension as an option, but I doubt anyone would even ask for that on that trim level. To swap a navigator to steel springs for $200 is amazing. On my Audi, the coil spring and regular shocks conversion is around $1500. And that's just the parts, there's a bit of labor to swap them. Air springs sound like a great deal until they break and they are standard. When you see that the air suspension costs 1800 up front, rational people that will keep their vehicle over 10 yrs won't buy air suspension. If you lease, you won't care about the future problems.

[@dchawk81]

Sounds good. Might as well skip it then. But yeah my kit was literally 2 shocks and two coil springs for the rear and two coilovers for the front. It was put together by Monroe for the purpose of conversions because a ton of people were doing it.

[@halflife103]

You just became my favorite offroad reviewer. Legit, you show me EXACTLY what i would do with a truck lol The fact you are also Canadian, and got excited enough to project the accent? Happiest ive ever been watching an offroad review, bud. Actually got me excited and put a smile on my face! Hope to see A LOT more of you. Can also confirm, got the Red plaid as well!

[@poppyneese1811]

My brain says Tundra but my heart says Rebel!

[@BrowardWayD]

Bro I feel the same way right now lol

[@TheLPCGAMING]

@@BrowardWayD y e p

[@9ine6ix4ourtwenty6]

@Guy martin a Tundra would be better here in my area honestly, no one has toyota but Ram, Ford, Silverado, Sierra, and other trucks

[@blueplanet1048]

@@BrowardWayD issue is the tundra is so blend it has a really ugly interior. The reliability is amazing on them but the looks are way too long in the tooth and just very old. The ram looks so much better inside and out but of course it's not going to be as reliable as a Toyota. I wish Toyota had at least similar level of materials and look of the ram then it would be a no-brainer

[@BrowardWayD]

@@blueplanet1048 if they made a similar design, Toyota would be unstoppable

[@j.a.vzlaib1170]

The Ram interiors just raised the bar up for all other manufacturers

[@harleyjackson5513]

F-150 is the bar

[@j.a.vzlaib1170]

​@Jack Z yes, before this new 2019 Ram model, I agreed with the F150, but now for me, I like the Ram better

[@j.a.vzlaib1170]

​@@harleyjackson5513 Unless they'd launch a new interior for next year, I think the Ram is best (interior) Overall the F150 I think is a better truck

[@harleyjackson5513]

@@j.a.vzlaib1170 I recently test drove all the Ford F-150, Chevy, and ram trucks. The Ford F-150 is still years ahead of the other two. The new ram is already having reliability issues. Ty for replying to my comment.

[@tomjahn6896]

@Jack Z I'm a Ford guy, always have been. But the 2019 ram interior is several steps above the Ford interior. It should be as the Ford interior is essentially 5 years old. It's very good, but ram stepped it up. It's like an Audi interior in a truck. I know because I drive an Audi. You don't even need to get a limited to get all the nice stuff in a ram. Now, GM, with their all new half ton has ZERO excuse why the all new interior is dated. It's so far behind the Ford's interior it's ridiculous.

[@gatto190]

You guys are gonna make me late to work! Love waking up to new vids!

[@STONE_COLD_SNEED_AUSTIN]

I feel embarrassed for people that feel the need to attack/defend vehicle brands.

[@IndianaDiy]

Good point!

[@chucknorris5141]

I say it all the time. You enjoy your ride and I'll enjoy mine - without having to bash what others drive. I just don't get it.

[@muffintop420]

How dare you!! I will attack and defend everything!

[@brycegman8150]

People are nuts. All vehicles have pros and cons. Brand loyalty is ignorant, you got one time anecdotes of issues or greatness and apply it across the spectrum? That'd make you a fool. Oh well. Humanity etc

[@60viking]

It's ok to stick up for American industry. Oh, foreign products made in America are foreign profits.

[@adrielhernandez-garcia9086]

This right here is how truck reviews should be done. Fantastic job TFL. Keep up the excellent work

[@Chainsawguy460]

I made the terrible mistake of buying a 2005 tacoma and 13 years later, with regular maintenance. 2 hundred and sixti nine thousand miles original motor and transmission with no leaks whatsoever and running as smooth as new I'm still paying the price of that horrible mistake.. If i would have known that after 12 years I would have to replace the fan belt idk if I would of bought it 😂

[@fullthrottlealways]

motownautospa Not true at all. Tacomas are basically bulletproof; where did you hear that?

[@nickx831]

@@fullthrottlealways according to new consumer reports they are not faring well.

[@fullthrottlealways]

Nick X ‘faring’

[@nickx831]

@@fullthrottlealways lol, ok?

[@TheTechCguy]

Cut the crap and just make your point.

[@spencercrispe7716]

I just bought a 2020 Rebel. I absolutely love it. I love the Ram Boxes. It's like having a secure trunk on the truck. They are so practical. I use them all the time. The red accents on the interior are awesome! They look so sharp and cool. It almost has a cool 1950s aesthetic interior feel with the red and the instrument cluster gauges, which I absolutely love stylistically. A marvelously designed truck both inside and out. I haven't taken it off-road yet, but so far I love everything about the Ram Rebel.

[@patrickjames1080]

Spencer - what do u usually stow in the Ram Boxes? Just bought one

[@thelos8093]

Employee of the month here. Great video

[@SoundgardenMan]

Brother I'm jealous your proving grounds is your land....that's awesome.

[@jeremytoms9698]

His land is 1.5 hours outside of Toronto... Kawartha is a great part of Ontario (good fishing!). It only gets better as you travel further North.

[@colelockridge5816]

@@jeremytoms9698 it looks awesome. I wish there was a place that looked like that and had cold weather in america

[@tomjahn6896]

@@colelockridge5816 the northern states fit those requirements.

[@colelockridge5816]

@@tomjahn6896 mostly....I still think way north is beautiful

[@mauricemodeezal5925]

@@colelockridge5816 there is... It's Alaska.. and yes.. it's still part of America

[@joescott701]

Bought a new 15 ram bighorn Exhaust manifold bolts broke off and had a hemi tick with the lifters upon start up. Traded in on a 20 tundra. Lesson learned.

[@joescott701]

@Brennan Martini no worries w Toyota at least.

[@Michael_ryan91]

Im a ram guy but that toyota is a badass rig i think it deserves to win this one!! Rebel would be perfect if it had coil spring suspension on there tester and a more aggressive shock package.

[@evilamc1962]

camaro camaro ss I was raised with Dodge Rams and I’m always going to be a dodge ( Ram ) guy but I’ve owned a 2010 tundra for 4 years now and I can’t believe that this truck has yet to have any rust or check engine lights. I live a state with really bad road salt in the winter and nothing lasts. Even the rams fords and chevys that are about 5 years old have a lot of bad rust spots growing. Ya tundras have the bad fual mileage but it’s going to be hard to go back to anything else. I also have the smaller v8 in my truck but it still kicks ass when I need it to. It’s gonna be hard to choose ones this thing is paid off. I’d love to try a ram but I’ve seen ALOT of negative comments about Rams electronics and body rust. We will see!!

[@Michael_ryan91]

@@evilamc1962 ya i live in wisconsin and i work in a body shop and i have never yet seen a 2007 and newer toyota tundra rusted out, but i fix alot of chevys rams and fords that are no joke 2 years old that have rust already! I have found out tho that tundras do not have a inner wheelhouses on thier bedsides so theres only one thickness of metal for the wheel well. Where the american trucks beds are way stronger because of steel inner wheelhouse however they rust between the two layers of metal because when they dip them primmer doesnt get between and they rust.

[@evilamc1962]

camaro camaro ss ya I live in central Ny ( the country farming part of Ny lol ) that’s one of the dumb things that people try to pick at when they judge tundras. They have funny videos all over KZbin of tundras frames and bed shaking as they going through torture tests.. but people still don’t have a whole lot to say against tundras. Just wish that Toyota would atleast put a 8 or 10 speed transmission in them to hike up the Fual mileage and help with towing a bit more if they don’t wanna change there 5.7 liter engines. A lady I know traded in her 04 f350 for a tundra to haul her gooseneck horse trailer and she loves it. It drinks gas but people have a good laugh when she passes diesels going up and down hills hauling 8000 up to 12000 pounds lol

[@UvidCo]

You guys must have gotten lucky with rust. My 14 has rust on it already and my friends 13 is the same. Apparently they are known for rusting easily on the box.

[@evilamc1962]

R C hmmm I honestly haven’t herd about that. But ya I’ve seen a lot of early 2000 models that had a lot of miles with no rust. I could imagine maybe if there was a deep scratch causing rust to spread.

[@reece7259]

I like this guy

[@j.a.vzlaib1170]

He makes the best and unbiased reviews

[@SVTJD]

He’s Canadian. Always lovable kind Canadians

[@LincolnSixAlpha]

Just traded my 2018 JL Wrangler Rubicon with 2.5" lift, on 35" KM3's, and I can tell you that my brand new 2020 Rebel drives like a dream everywhere, and is quite is can be! Honestly, I'm not very particular to vehicle manufacturers, and in fact, have been driving European cars for the last 25 years or so. The Jeep was my first FCA product, and I can certainly tell you that FCA certainly has the interior bits and quality feel locked up. The quality issue may be another discussion but my 2018 JL was flawless, so far FCA has been good to me.

[@zacharymartin4861]

Roman, Nathan, and Andre when testing: "We don't want to damage these new, expensive trucks!" Stephen: 3:37 😂

[@daveh9551]

Zachary Martin I was so frustrated at their pussied Ford Rap review I vowed never to watch again. Drive the gotdamn thing the way it’s supposed to be driven.

[@youknow754]

Jesus people... if you do proper maintenance to your Ram or Toyota like you are supposed to then they will last you. Ive had my 2016 Ram 1500 Big Horn since new in 2016 and have yet to have one single complaint or problem. Just love what you have

[@kylefowler5082]

This is an underrated comment, poor or no maintenance will kill any vehicle, my ram is 20 years old and still going strong... thanks to the maintenance I've done to it

[@CS-lq3ww]

Except if you own a ford

[@endocry]

3 WHOLE years? Wow!

[@JimenezVMartinez]

😎

[@altrock86]

endocry lol exactly 3 years. Even the poorest rated cars last 3 years.

[@UNMsmith]

I love this guy’s reviews!!! Watching this while “working.”

[@isaacbeachy4176]

The ram would definitely be my choice. But save some money and get the spring suspension for reliability.

[@willandrews9741]

What do u mean spring suspension? Leaf? Coil?

[@brandonmcdonald8278]

@Siddesh Gannu the reliability on the Rams are fine now, they've improved tons over the last decade or so. I still think the tundra would take the reliability award but there's absolutely nothing wrong with the ram

[@jasoncloud102]

I like the Toyota but man oh man the interior on the Fiat is really nice!

[@phtevenmolz5030]

@@brandonmcdonald8278 actually, Toyota has been having far more NHTSA complaints over the past several years versus the Ram trucks. On their best year recently, they had more than double the common issues of a Ram for the same year...not bad vehicles, but Ram has stepped up their game while Toyota trucks have been living off an old reputation instead of current reality. Meanwhile, people are still stuck in the 90's, believing Ram trucks have garbage transmissions. Bias and old reputations run the industry. Although I completely agree on the suspension. My '14 JGC has it and it has literally been the only problem with the vehicle, but it has been a problem on three separate occasions now. Not fixing it immediately causes the pump to burn up and become far more costly than the original failure, too.

[@lhobbs1413]

Come on man even those people that own Dodge's know better than to buy into the s h i t you're saying

[@theupshiftcarblog9555]

This guy knows how to off-road! Not the clowns who film in Colorado...

[@danielhan8995]

Ram and FCA in general have improved so much in the last 12 years or so. Gonna get a 2024 Rebel when I sell my Laramie Longhorn.

[@SoxHawksBears]

My 08 ram 1500 still going strong with well over 200k. When it dies on me I’m def going to buy another

[@jordangraf673]

Hey don't talk about a Ram being reliable. This is a zone for Toyota circle jerking.

[@hachi-rokuperformancegroup3987]

My 97 is at 247k and still a work horse that does not always get its regular maintenance as it should

[@kevinnoneya9095]

My 06 with 210k, engine is good but the other things have gone to shit...exhaust manifolds have warp and busted bolts, radiator is leaking, no heat or AC due to HVaC system doors or core not sure. Constantly throwing CV Axle boots and suspension issues, electrical problems, what else oil pan needs a new seal and my favorite recent breakdown was the alternator, oh god and the rust. I dont even beat it just drive I around Wisconsin normally...I'll be going Toyota next time...simply because the C Channel frame so I can restore it later in life if I want.

[@krazylinx1967]

My '04 is rocking 330K+ on original engine/transmission with regular maintenance and no major repairs, still runs strong and sounds amazing to boot.

[@adventureanglingpnw1821]

I love Dodge and toyota I got a 2001 Dodge Dakota with 197k miles and Ive never had any problems with it. I also got a 97 Tacoma and that thing is amazing as well. Any car can be reliable as long as you take care of it. :) It's just the people who are car brand nuts who give certain brands a bad name.

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

Good review. Rebel went through that mud like a hot knife through butter! Btw, your comparison video between the ZR2 and Tacoma last year convinced me to buy a ZR2. Love it, thanks!

[@manuelurribarrialarcon861]

Shift Motorsports it is worth it doing a leveling kit for a 2018 Toyota Tundra sr5 4x2?

[@jboijones7563]

@@manuelurribarrialarcon861 why would you need to raise a 2 wheel drive truck?

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

@@manuelurribarrialarcon861- From personal experience, you don't usually get your money back from customizing/modifying, so it's not worth it financially, but worth it if you have OCD and can't stand to see it raked like that. I've done it on previous vehicles. Not hard. Then you can go up a tire size or two without rubbing.

[@codyscherer6930]

@@jboijones7563 wrong question... correct question why does a 2wd truck even exist

[@GP9railfan]

Toyota only specializes in a “Mall Terrain” option. Leave the off roading to the real trucks. Toy trucks are a joke.

[@potterytool5174]

Not sure why everybody hates the tundra interior, I love the simplicity of it. It’s basic and simple less to go wrong and easy to navigate. I guess I’m just an old guy... lol

[@demoncleaner80]

I'm the same way, vehicle interiors have gotten way too "noisy" over the past 5-10 years. I've never owned one, but I always appreciated the minimalist style interiors like the Volkswagens, etc. Toyota is pretty damn Spartan, and that's okay for me.

[@mikemissouri5152]

So the dodge got thru the mud better and had more clearance a rear locker and better tires but you picked the TRD for off roading? 🤔

[@NuclearSandwich7]

Michael Justa yes because the tundra is blue! Prettydumb conclusion. He knocked the air suspension when ram offers a coil spring suspension as well.

[@cheman4]

He liked the shocks.That's why!

[@robertpowers1045]

cheman4 and the Ram is like 10 grand more...just put on better off-road tires and a 3-1 lift and you’ve still got 8 grand left and a much better resale when you get done thrashing it!

[@NuclearSandwich7]

robert powers it’s like 6 grand more, and better tires aren’t going to beat a locked differential.

[@hydroboy35th]

Michael Justa Toyota had to pay this guy. The Rebel is clearly the better truck. He failed to mention the 3.92 gear ratio on the Rebel which is also better for off road.

[@lordsavagethe21st30]

Thank goodness you guys replaced the goofball “mr truck”. This guy is a solid reviewer and probably the best thing that could happen to this channel.

[@Leatherkid01]

Mr Truck is still around in the American TFL Truck ....if youre wondering

[@dchawk81]

Yeah this is just metric TFL.

[@Leatherkid01]

@@dchawk81 yes!! 🤣 Am Canadian(and not a senior citizen) but its funny that i cant really grasp the L/100 (i have to think abt it first) as well as MPG.......odd haha. Glad though that Canada dont measure power by kilowatts like Australia and New Zealand.... Than am royally screwed 🤣

[@FLDEPUTY]

U.S.A. made 2019 Ram Rebel is the total package! I just purchased one for $60 K. The payments for 60 months is $1000.00 a month. Glad, I paid cash.... It really is a great truck.

[@displayedimagination9710]

Nice review, you're doing a great job for TFL :)

[@KeepinItReal]

Tundra is 100% made in the USA

[@sluf1963]

With that being said , yes , made in the U.S.A. , all profits going to Japan , bottom line , a foreign truck , I own one however , it will simply last , and hold its value .

[@robertjohnson2581]

RE7WERKS where do you get your facts from.

[@KeepinItReal]

@@robertjohnson2581 I work at the factory

[@jaylee8703]

@@KeepinItReal The Rebel is NOT ?

[@andresgarcia3516]

The Toyota is designed and enginered by Japan.

[@derrylbutler5331]

Finally ,Finally!!!!!!!! Someone actually made a real video tracking through woods full of mud !!!! A real video!!!! Really in mho you cant go wrong picking either truck!!!! Nice job!!!!!

[@mikell.6064]

When you rob a bank and you take off to the woods 😂.. drive it like you stole it baby

[@donaldgreen9292]

I am a Ram guy and own a 2017 Ram express with the hemi and stock coil spring set up. But I work around semis and trailers with air suspension. the major benefit of air suspension is its load handling ability. plus air bags are easier to replace.

[@mikestronach4762]

Never buy a ram with air suspension in Canada. I own one. Always freezes up. Garbage. And I have owned a lot of dodge. Never again

[@babyhueking4280]

Mike Stronach I got mine with sprin suspension

[@CANAMADDICT]

Same issue with mine I replace the suspension with springs

[@JRsVsO]

I've had one for 3 years here in Wisconsin and it never froze up. It's also very handy for people like me that are disabled and don't want put side steps in to mess with the extra clearance I get with it all the way up.

[@rosssmith9941]

Dodge is trash man

[@victorvillasana3409]

Semi-trucks have air brakes, we pour a little bit of alcohol into the air line. It will protect against freezing during winter. It's very reliable. The manufacturer doesn't give you this tip, it's all about learning and gaining experience.

[@NelsonGasparDrives]

Kick ass Canadian review once again. Good job buddy

[@ibenzawla]

Long term reliability. Remember that.

[@patrickhuskey8277]

Fails durability test

[@barrysoetoro3488]

Patrick Huskey really. Please explain.

[@patrickhuskey8277]

I'm talking about the tundra failing the crash test results. It proves in a car accident that tundra is likely to get you killed

[@barrysoetoro3488]

Patrick Huskey not true. Tundra has 4 and 5 stars front and sides on the crash test results. It’s not as safe as the newer trucks from Fiat, GM and Furd, but it is rated 4 and 5’s. I agree it should be safer though to be on par with the competition. I’m sure the new 2021 will be as it will be an all new truck.

[@mudpuppy318]

Then just don’t crash the Tundra.. And the guys I know that own Ram with air ride have nothing but issues with that system.

[@Kwhopperfan]

Wrangler Duratrac's are absolutely fantastic. Despite the noise that can be minimized with rotations. They get exceptional mileage and superior snow and mud traction to where the 4wd is hardly even needed.

[@mobgma]

THIS GUY IS AWESOME! FINALLY SOMEONE WHO DRIVES THE SHIT OUT OF THESE OFF ROAD TRUCKS. NONE OF THIS SLOW ROCK CRAWLING BABY MALL CRAWLING GARBAGE.

[@BFD15i]

"Still in drive" - camera shows "P" activated. Good one.

[@ericksanchez7787]

How about use your brain for a bit and think that the shot of putting on diff lock on is a separate camera shot from the actuall situation

[@FinnedOcean9389]

@@ericksanchez7787 ey man, make love not war. (Think that was a marvel reference)

[@miguelvillasenor4504]

If we are all watching the same video, I think we can agree the Rebel made it look easy compared to the Tundra.

[@maxsanchez2339]

Miguel Villasenor of course it made the mud look easier, it had 33s and way more aggressive tires.

[@miguelvillasenor4504]

Max Sanchez it has a locking rear deferential????

[@miguelvillasenor4504]

Max Sanchez I sell them for a living

[@maxsanchez2339]

Miguel Villasenor congratulations

[@justinkimble4855]

@Angelina 2019 ram 1500 with 3.92 rear axel 12,750 recommend max towing highest in its class, or the dually 35,100 highest recommended towing

[@le6014]

Hey, this is simply one of the best reviews I've seen of these two trucks. THANKS...!!!

[@Zaberdutton]

In terms of off road performance that i saw with my own eyes...that rebel seemed to power through the "deep mud section" -and the hill climb at the end of it -of this head to head a whole lot better and a whole lot easier than the toyota.

[@jesterjacobs5205]

Ya but dont forget about the difference of the tires..michlen ltx vs wranglers..no comparision.tires make the biggest difference..he also went through with more acceleration with the dodge because before he even started with the toyota he was hesitant about the tires

[@Grumpy_old_Boot]

True, the Ram did do better in the deep mud, which was mostly down to more aggressive tires. However, the air suspension was beating him up on the way to and from that short little section. So the _overall_ performance, favored Toyota's softer suspension - In the end, it's a trade off. Plus, you could totally put more aggressive tires on the Toyota as well.

[@JRsVsO]

Ram made it through easier because of tires, lockers, lift, and full skid plates. He started and finished that mud Hill with the Toyota with the gas pedal floored and hit some rocks in non-protected underbody parts. Plus the rebel has better gearing and an 8 speed. That 6 speed tranny will brake before the ram, in my opinion.

[@BradChadley]

@@JRsVsO That transmission has been in use and continually improved for over a decade now. Toyota has it tuned extremely well with the iForce. I haven't driven a 2019+ RAM, so I can't comment on how it drives, but I highly doubt Toyota's tranny is less reliable than RAM's in this case. They both probably will last just fine.

[@LoopDoc]

Makes sense, it has more hp and torque

[@marcsorensen1184]

Just bought a TRD Pro a month ago. Havent off roaded it yet but its pretty quick on the street and highway.

[@shine1gt1]

Marc Sorensen so did I. I’m a little scared of off roading it cuz of how expensive it was lol😂

[@bettysmith7045]

@@shine1gt1 even my TRD off Road is to expensive to risk, with a sticker price of 47K (not what I paid of course, but still...)

[@williamheinsinger7390]

TOYOTA, WHY NO REAR LOCKING DIFFERENTIAL 🤔

[@TheRedDeadTaco]

TRD Pros are bought by rich people who want the highest trim model vehicle. A lot of people do not offroad, it’s just for looks so putting in a rear locking diff is a waste.

[@trevorc5477]

You should be asking why there has been no major update in 12 years

[@trevorc5477]

@@TheRedDeadTaco the Trd pro is like 48k, the 1794 and limited trim have more options and are more expensive

[@Jordanblox-l8c]

Trevor C no

[@oldtoyotaguy798]

@@trevorc5477 There's been no major update mostly because Toyota values long-term reliability over the latest-and-greatest technical gadgets and innovations across all their product lines. They seem to be OK with being the "boring, outdated but reliable" choice, LOL. I'll be the first to agree the need to update the Tundra and Tacoma with at-least 8spd transmissions and true lockers, but they've always done those kinds of changes slowly to ensure engineering updates are done according to their 'reliability above innovation' business model.

[@ronrico_rumm9382]

Oh man i’d say thats the best truck review and on the mud too. I’m gonna have to share this to one of my buddy who has 2018 rebel, and i have trd pro 2013 tundra. Overall both looks a great trucks. Thanks for sharing!!

[@thegreatga]

TFL nailed this review. Awesome

[@kevinsteele8174]

Nice. I've got the 2019 Toyota Tundra SR5

[@guardrail2897]

If you do that with a Silverado, you will rip the bumper off. The Silverado sits to low in the front..

[@Contreras-z4e]

Pat MyGroin it’s a chebby

[@yotatoy8218]

Pat MyGroin and then a brick of cocaine will be found from the cartels smuggling from Mexico.

[@ScottieMckinley787]

Too

[@captainspaulding4777]

Pat MyGroin, had my Silverado for 6 years, been looking for the front bumper for the last 3 years. Think I lost it driving over a pile of leaves.

[@taylorrowden1620]

Pat MyGroin not my 01 1500 it’s more truck then most the new ones

[@BlAcKVeNuM911]

We bought the Tundra trd pro after watching this video.... This is how real truck videos should be.... Not some highway and lite orv trails in Colorado. - sincerely someone from Michigan

[@cup_and_cone]

I still can't believe the TRD gets away with that cheap rubber molded urethane steering wheel when every other class competitor is leather wrapped.

[@WilliamStewart1]

The whole interior on Toyota is rubbermaid special. Built well and looks decent, but the interior feels very cheap when you bang on it and touch a lot of the surfaces.

[@michaelheikkila6051]

I owned a 16 tundra trd off road and now a gmc 2500hd. Interior on the tundra is twice as well made as the gm.

[@jeanettejacobsen1427]

Michael Heikkila my 2010 still looks new besides a couple stains. My buddy’s 15 the buttons paint coming off and crap.

[@john0043]

Michael Heikkila nah the tundras interio feels like a junky corolla. GMs interior feel nice and solid with a decent amount of soft touch material and a leather wrapped steering wheel. The trd pro is over priced in my opinion.

[@jeanettejacobsen1427]

Jon17 what it feels like now vs 10 years. Tundra will last. You will have broken knobs and paint peeling on gm.

[@Bunkysworkshop]

Does anyone know about the air suspension being dependable? I just have a feeling that this could really be a problem after a couple of years and then replacement time. Is this just me ?? I want a Tundra for the reliability but love the look of the Ram.

[@loudring6247]

craigsclocks air suspention usually are close to $1k a piece to replace on a car and some Lexus suv's. As for a truck, the price should be around the same if not a little more and yes some do fail within 7 to 10 years depending on what kind of road you drive on, the ruffer the road, the chances of a air suspention failing increases.

[@coryroot]

I have heard they have issues with it freezing up in cold temps

[@loudring6247]

Cory Root not sure if that's the case on the Rebel, but on my Lexus even on the coldest days in the last 2 winters in the northeast at -5f the suspention performed flawlessley. I don't believe air suspention freezes at all as it usually uses hydralic fluid and ofcourse AIR.

[@frankgrochot8719]

@@coryroot I have also heard this. However I live in VT and my ram (14) with air has had zero issues and my parents Grand Cherokee (11) with air hasn't either.

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Cory Root I live in Saskatchewan with friends who have it. No problems

[@jacoblofton4513]

If the tundras interior wasn’t stuck in 2008 I might consider buying one, but until then, ram and ford are the only brands of truck I’ll buy

[@Benhamin2002]

Jacob Lofton eh that don’t bother me no need for a tablet... big distraction

[@frooz442]

1, 2, 3... and here come the "reliability" comments. But seriously they're both reliable and off-road worthy! Can't go wrong with either.

[@zachariasprice3762]

Toyota trucks don't do or have anything particularly cool or even good, so all their rabid fans have to thwart other vehicles are so-called "reliability" and "re-sale value". I'm sorry, but it isn't like other trucks break down more frequently to the point of actually making a difference. And re-sale value won't take you through mud. If you're looking to conserve your money I suggest real-estate investment.

[@frooz442]

@@zachariasprice3762 Yeah, I suppose it is true, since Toyota isn't doing all that much with their pickups other than adding more tech and etc

[@philtripe]

ive owned both...theres no comparison...when i owned Ford Dodge and Chevy i spent my weekends working on trucks...now i own Toyotas and my tools collect dust. the Mexican made Rams are the most unreliable Fiats built today thats another reason i bought an American made Toyota

[@1gr8oil]

THE RAM 1500'S ARE BUILT IN DETROIT

[@kidamere2408]

@@philtripe good for you, my tundra threw a rod at 12k miles never ran right again after the repair sadly

[@ddng2161]

The tundra’s dashboard looks like in the early 2000 car’s but hey, with tons of electronics and technologies in the ram, they will have a lot more issues down the road, especially with fca notorious electrical designs.

[@judydavis8191]

We had a 2004 toyota tundra..had it for 14 years..320 thousand miles..only routine maintenance done. Purchased a new 2018 5.7 liter tundra. The i Force v8 is a great motor.

[@mrvoyagerm]

My Tundra also came with skid plates under the front and under the tank standard.

[@larrywelchko6136]

I find it interesting that you chose, by your own admision, so it seemed, the lesser truck. I think the only thing that would keep me out of the Ram is the gear selector. I like putting it in gear and not using an electronic selector.

[@RandomThingReviews]

My first week with my 2022 ram I tried throwing it in reverse while looking at my mirrors and I lowered the volume on my radio and went forward instead 😂

[@sicchuckie]

I’ve owned my 2007 Tundra since 09, still have the Michelin LTX, they are great tires. Quiet on highway, yet I haven’t been stuck. 👍🏻

[@MrNismopro]

I noticed that in the Tundra he was driving it like a real man, with sacks. While in the Rebel he was driving it in estrogen mode.

[@markscott529]

Darn. I just traded my 16 rebel specifically because of the LSD only rear end. I bet the locker is nice. Got a 18 powerwagon so no regrets,,, except the stereo downgrade, hand free fob and sunroof. Oh well, front rear lockers winch and sway disconnect with solid axles. You'll like the 19 rebel

[@kordapyo612]

Haven't heard lsd in the front.

[@gavins.3214]

I have a ram 2005 with 287k miles and regular maintenance rams are beastsss

[@josephbutton9442]

All the facts you stated pointed to the ram rebel being Superior and yet you choose the Tundra based on color and exhaust note as a better daily mudder? Hmm. Should have stopped in the middle of the last mud pit with both trucks and see which could have made it out. That tundra needed momentum both times.

[@peterf.229]

no it didn't, my Taco since its 2wd would need momentum but then again its a white truck under all the mud .. :)

[@somantheeralall1127]

Whats wrong with picking a truck cuz of color ?what does it matter what he picks ? He probably likes it more despite its fallbacks. Like my dad loves a dirt bike he rareky goes offroad but he just likes how the dirt bike feels

[@noahmurayama2619]

I think if the tundra had the same tires the ram did it would perform the same way. The ram had the advantage because the tires were better on the ram than the tundra

[@dandante7837]

lol that wouldn't have anything to do with tires huh?...put some duratracs on that tundra ...then we would see....and besides even with those crappy tires and no locker the tundra did exactly the same thing that so called advanced ram did...hmmmm

[@endocry]

@@dandante7837 with a crap ton of momentum and little control. If you've ever driven through deep, muddy ruts it would be obvious that the Ram handled it much easier.

[@mlafonta22]

I test drove both of these and tried so hard to like the Tundra. Bare in mind I have no loyalties, I also took out the trail boss and f 150. In the end I bought the Rebel . There honestly was no comparison between the Tundra and Rebel.

[@georgioantoine4194]

curious. hows the ram now?

[@TRJ2525]

*tundra laughs in reliable transmission* had a 2014 ram 60,000 miles tans GONE. Now a proud Toyota owner.

[@jimmieg6218]

If reliability and quality is not on your shopping list then your wasting money. Toyota is KING.

[@Lowerider182]

What about the frame failure recalls on the tundras? i think they had to do it twice in the last 20 years? Hillux and tacomas are awesome, tundras haven't had the same success

[@bsteele5287]

Took Toyota years to get all the bugs out of the Tundra. They haven't changed it much since. A laggard in the segment. Have owned two. Gas mileage was unbelievably bad. Way behind on performance and features. Mine wasn't any better in reliability than the competition, probably worse. Not completely horrible but nothing exceptional either with problems with the transmission, rust, water pump and electrics over the time I owned it. Wouldn't buy another.

[@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor]

Old review Toyota recalls thousands of tundra trucks for contaminated engine blocks

[@rodjbosch]

Air suspension in Canada....even the Ram dealers don't recommend getting it for all the cold weather issues it has. Our local dealers don't even order trucks with it unless someone special orders. That says something

[@DaDonBossMan]

Yes, it says real world physics

[@flagovhate]

The bags will get holes in them from dust/sand. Had to replace the two rear ones on my mothers Grand Cherokee and they're about 400$ each.

[@TheAllMotorAllDay]

My biggest regret getting a tundra. She hasn't cheat on me yet. Too loyal to get broken.

[@elsedbacchas6336]

Toyota all the way

[@Josh-zy3lq]

16:23 my man almost broke his mirror twice 😂

[@kordapyo612]

I feel your anxiety.

[@akilghosh]

Awesome review compared to your American counterparts. You were totally not scared to take it off road. Hats off!

[@Bryan46162]

Off road? That was his driveway.

[@heatto162]

I have a 2012 Trd sr5 and I love it...110k miles on it and it feels brand new still.

[@RudyC27]

Now that’s how you do a great truck review!!!! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@adventureescape1929]

Run them with the same tire. This is pointless without comparable tires.

[@I__Love_Lamp]

He was simply comparing what you get from the dealership package you buy. If the Toyota equips itself with the tire that's on that Dodge then you just added at least an extra two grand to the sale price of it.

[@dteh4501]

Why watch any comparison video🤔😜

[@hallorid0006]

The Ram no question. So many more functions. More performance.

[@2GUNMASTER]

6:08 "still in drive" but it clearly shows it in park.

[@rudystraight1750]

He prob shot that clip before or after you idiot

[@brieninsac]

I think the review of the Ram air suspension compared to the Toyota is skewed. What TFL doesn't realize or failed to acknowledge is when the Ram is in the highest off-road mode the suspension is stiffer then when in Normal mode. So when TFL said the Toyota's suspension was smoother it is because the Ram was in Off-road mode and not normal mode.

[@jordangraf673]

Yeah it didn't need to be raised all the way up for some mud. Of course it's gonna be more rigid when it's maxed out.

[@agentd36]

“Impress your buddies,” pretty much sums it up for all things auto related

[@IJBCI]

Awesome review! These are both badass trucks. At the end of the day, I’m going with the Tundra for the proven reliability and resale value for the future.

[@timsisco3742]

Would of been interesting if you put the air suspension in off road 1 instead of Off road 2, to see if that smoothed out the ride to match the Toyota. Off road 2 gets the most ground clearance but your also maxing it out so there's not as much travel space. Off road 1 should afford more rebound space and the ride height in off road 1 is the same height as the Tundra TRD pro.

[@southieparker]

I think he might have, just without realizing it - that's the reason behind the "progressive" feeling of the air suspension he talks about starting around 7:50. The air suspension automatically walks the truck down to regular ride height as the speed increases. OR2 is only good up to 25 mph (IIRC) before it automatically lowers to OR1; OR1 only good up to 35 mph before it lowers to Normal. looks like he's going faster than 25 mph to me.

[@timsisco3742]

interesting i didn't know it switched automatically in the Off road mods. All most people ever talk about is it goes into low drag mode when at highways speeds if your in the normal setting. It makes since just hadn't heard it.

[@southieparker]

Same when lowered. The Entry/Exit height is only good up to 15 mph before it raises up. Basically just preventing wear & damage when the rebound travel is so compromised. I think the Ram engineer actually talks to Andre about it in the Rebel 12 intro vid from a few weeks back.

[@marcusjames9811]

Everyone likes different vehicles. I personally think that Rebel is bad ass, I’ve had my 97 ram 1500 for 19 years and put 221k on it and changed the battery and alternator in it once and drove the wheels off it!! Take them thru a bit more of a challenge in my opinion. In the mountains in Colorado you get back in the timber trees in some good mud holes and can be doing 40 before hitting it and there are no ruts to begin with you make your own way thru. Good video tho bud. But Rebel Baby!!!!!! Lol

[@marcusjames9811]

Can’t be doing 40 is what I meant on last message my bad!!

[@johnmartinez1801]

16:30 OMG 😌 The Anxiety for that side mirror 🙈🙊, Literally INCHES!!!